>Fallout NV >Every faction makes good points but also has flaws that make it a tough choice for who's best for the Wasteland>Fallout 4>It's not a matter of who's best but who's the least bad.>African Warlord levels of logistics and planning>Have to suspend your disbelief because every single faction is on the verge of collapse even if you win with them
>>740036080>>Shitsidian writing>THE LEGION IS EVIL SO EVIL I SWEAR SO SO EVIL!!!! VERY EVIL!!!!!!>actually uh, y'know, we also have this GAY character and this LESBIAN character so we're kinda based!!!!>See the Legion like male members only... hoo boy, wonder how they have sex haha wink wink nudge nudge must be HAHAHA GAY OR SOMETHING LOLZWowmuch amazing writing
>wanna replay f4 >realize most of the map is empty and loreless with nameless raiders and super mutants >every character is written like a fourth grader >drop it
>>740036381It hurts even worse because it took me a decade to finally get a PC that could even play Fallout 4 Just sitting their in my Steam library, since launch day, mocking me.
>>740036381>>wanna replay f4Why?
>>740036080It actually a hidden lore detail that the east coast is like this because the chinese hit the capitol with retard rays that filtered into their tap water and turned it into retard juice that made them all retarded
Elder Maxson is a 22 year old unc
>>740036880I would accept that.At least it's something.
>NOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T DEFEND YOURSELVES AND YOUR HOMELAND FROM FOREIGN INVADERS!>THINK OF YOUR HECKIN INNOCENCE!>(Sorrows get demolished by someone else if they leave because they're still an easy target)
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/tg62oCPvTyU?feature=shareCould Lonesome Road be considered a VN?
>>740036080The correct decision is:>join all four factions>do all their side quests >ignore the railroad’s underground undercover quest>max the affinity of every faction-restricted companion>destroy the institute with the minutemen & evacuate the eggheads>go to far harbor>join every faction>complete all their side quests>replace Tektus with a synth>send a railroad operative to Acadia>immediately report Acadia’s existence to the Brotherhood>watch the Brotherhood glass the synths>do tactical thinking quest for the Brotherhood>start nuka world>become overboss>have the gangs raid former Railroad settlements >complete open season after completing all the raider questsNow the Commonwealth is truly free.
>>740036381>Empty MapSounds like you accidentally booted up new Vegas, anon.
>>740041012>Replace Tektus with a SynthIncorrect. You're supposed convince them into blow themselves up, Arrest DiMA, *then* call in the Brotherhood.Also piss the brotherhood off and Bombard them with Artillery.
>>740041413nearly every location has named characters and unique encounters in New Vegas. Red Rock Canyon, The Strip, Freeside, Primm, Goodsprings, Do you remember the mr handy horse racing area and boxing ring in 4? Oh yeah you CAN'T INTERACT AT ALL WITH IT because it's all a shooting gallery.
>The Moon Comes Over the Tower originally had you going through New Vegas Steel, H&H Tools (Where you learn about House's Brother), and Camp Golf (Where you have an excuse to meet with Hanlon if not doing NCR quests.>Release version just has you enter and exit the Lucky 38Why?
>>740036381You mean like every Bethesda game?
>>740042276the racetrack could have been such a fun location if you could actually bet and fix races, instead its just fucking wasted potential like the rest of the game
>>740043008>Joshua Sawyer: "'Why was most of the Moon Comes Over the Tower quest cut?' Time, just not enough time."
>>740043413>Josh the locations are already set up.>All the scripting is done already>It's already done
>>740043196Yeah, too bad it's in the middle of an empty lake bee with nothing around.Oh, wait a tick.
>>740042276Yeah, nothing says "Deep Lore" than ripping a real world location and doing fuck all interesting with it.
>>740043946lake bees? what? are you having a stroke?
>>740036080Delusional retard Only an inbred idiot would ever side with he Legion Meanwhile there are plenty of logical reasons to side with the institute.
>>740036080I dont like that delphine VA, i wish todd would stop using her, I almost barf'd when she showed up in cyberpunk
>>740042276Take off the nostalgia goggles
>>740043946oh wait you're trying to compare it to the abandoned racetrack in new vegas. the one thats outright abandoned and not being actively maintained for gambling. like new vegas doesn't have any fucking gambling in it at all.its really hard to believe anyone trying to defend the other fallouts or shit on new vegas is being like wholly serious about it, its always the most ridiculous fucking shit.
>>740041564No. The Children of Atom are 100% correct and did nothing wrong. The island is theirs by right, and they will provide the settlers with new hope & a grand faith if their head can be replaced. Acadia’s resources will be used for the common good, but the machines cannot be trusted to run this operation, so they must be done away with. The Brotherhood are also 100% objectively correct, and the commonwealth settlers hate synths, super mutants, & ghouls at large so they have no idealogical disagreements. A minutemen - brotherhood alliance is the best path to peace, lasting security, and societal cohesion for the commonwealth.
>>740036080Why does this game make NV fanatics lose their minds? You don't see Fallout 4 fans making threads about NV. My best guess is because F4 is more popular and was a bigger success than NV. No other reason a bunch of rabid fanboys would get so angry over a game.
>>740044750>Fallout 4 fansThere are none, that's why lmao.>Reddit spacingBait, kill yourself
>>740044014name something interesting fallout 4 does with it's locations, Goodsprings and Primm are real towns represented in a cool way while while Vegas is controled by a robot man. Besides the fucking small baseball field and a one street that are considered "cities" by 4 theres nothing besides settlement build slop and nameless raiders and supermutants sprinkled without rhyme or reason
>>740044987From a design standpoint, Goodsprings & Primm are fake forgettable locations that have nothing worthwhile to explore because the named settlers don’t live anywhere outside their stores. The “houses” in Goodsprings are just there to make it feel more populated than it is, but if you walk in there’s nothing inside, just generic loot. In Fallout 3, all the named settlers in Megaton have actual houses with unique items, terminal logs, and schedules for when they rest there; same is the case for 4’s Diamond City.
>>740045253the many unique pieces of loot found in the megaton homes like miscellaneous packs of cigarettes and beer bottles
>>740036271Its weird that the NCR is full of fags and dykes but they gripe about how the legion is secretly gay
>>740045576they're upset they aren't in the roman gay orgies too
>>740045253>Goodsprings & Primm>powder gangers>sunny smiles >easy pete >the graveyard>victor >forgettable
The onlt difference between the writing in FO4 and NV is that NV NPCs give you a rundown on their lifestory and grade school philosphies up front through blatantly expository dialogue.
>>740046323i'll take that over middle schooler tier writing "im the big bad guy and im evil just because" "syths are like le slaves from the historical times GET IT"
Why do Falloutfags do nothing but fight each other?
>Is the biggest tightass in the entire wasteland>Complains if you bring Tom Anderson to justice after he murders a soldier over a foid because "muh greater good">Complains about Dr.Hildern only seeing the big picture (Le Greater Good is only okay when it's his faction doing it)>Hate's ED-E>Screams his fool head off about Caesar within earshot of every single Legionaire in the Fort>Middle name is IsraelWorst companion in the game really, only reason to keep him around is because of the free power armor and Enclave help
>>740049525War never changes Anon
>>740049525Crab in the Bucket Franchise. Rather than admit mediocrity they attack what they see as the next worse thing.
fo4 has no motion brah, the most forgettable bethesda game ever made
>>740045253>Goodsprings & Primm are fake forgettable locationsPrimm may be more forgettable than Goodsprings but to call Goodsprings forgettable is retarded nigger cope. Goodsprings IRL was a dead fucking mining town until this game and now it's making money from tourism.
>>740049525NV was the biggest potential of the series then Bethesda being bought out by Microsoft, corporatized and watered down the series into reddit garbage
>>740036271Reductive slop eating niggers like you is why the industry is in the shitter.
>>740050691NV was literally quippy reddit trash though?
>>740050916Mow my lawn
>>740051249Eat shit, I’m sure you already had some today.
>>740045498>can find a chinese officer sword struck through a teddy bear in jericho’s house, (earliest way to access this weapon btw)>can find an entire holotape collection of a children’s book in one dude’s house>strength bobblehead in lucas sim’s house that no one will point you towardsI could go on but it’s very obvious that you’ve never actually played Fallout 3 & just formed your opinion on it by absorbing the opinions of others online.
>>740049525Because it’s a series which has been destroyed by retardation and greed.
>>7400511422010 game different time reddit doesn't like substance only products that flash shit in your face like supermutants, the brotherhood of steel, caps, vault boy, and vaults which is what the slop such as 76 and the tv show are
The series stopped being good the moment your player character couldn't be drugged and raped by a teenager.
>>740051773Reddit adores NV and they love to bring up the quips when discussing it, even moreso than /v/
>>740038624I almost always went with his side because I thought the ending was more bittersweet
>>740049525Because every single Fallout game is radically different from each other in such drastic ways that there isn’t a lot to agree on between the titles. If you like Fallout 1, it’s very likely you might just hate every Fallout after because they’re so different. If you like Fallout New Vegas, you might not like Fallout 1 & 2 because they’re isometric ancient games that have a drastically different engine. Fallout 3 & New Vegas have radically different design philosophies despite using the exact same engine. Fallout 4 focuses more on survival, settlement building, & crafting mechanics while shafting RPG mechanics from the previous titles such as skills & dialogue skill checks that it alienated many fans of the previous titles. And then of course there are gigachads who like ever single main Fallout title except 76, and then there are those who have only played 76 & have below third grade reading comprehension, and then of course there are Bethesda drone paypigs who only play Fallout titles if they’re produced by Bethesda out of brand loyalty. And then finally, there are those who both played & enjoyed Fallout Tactics.. we don’t speak about them.
>>740051880you know what reddit also adores every recent shitty fallout game and goes YOU KNOW YOU GOTTA STOP HATING WHAT THE CORPERATIONS ARE SHITTING OUT I JUST LOVE GETTING THE VAULT BOY FUNKO POPSNew Vegas was something that could actually tell stories and conflicts, sure the gameplay was clunkey and it aged quite a bit. But it felt like an actual RPG with choices and INTRESTING LORE something bethesniggers doesn't understand. And I know Obsidion isn't the same anymore since they're also a corporate puppet of microsoft just like Bethesda.
>>740036080The Fallout franchise as a whole is an unsalvagable disaster that deserves zero of anyone's time, attention or mental bandwidth. It's current custodians treat it as nothing but a vibe and vehicle for shitting out merchandise and microtransactions, and its creator is a sellout who glazes them for doing so.
>>740051880Everyone save for faggots like you adore NV because it’s a good game.
>>740052134this, fuck tim cain chris avellone was the one that made fallout what it is and he's blacklisted from being too based
>>740036381I'll never forget the sudden realization while I was playing that this game fucking sucks and quit instantly.
>>740051967This is bullshit because fans of 1 & 2 like NV and vice versa. It’s mostly a split down west and east coast games specifically the shit made by Bethesda and not and it’s always the same shit every time it gets argued.
>>740052053>interesting loreNCR bureaucracy and the laughably evil Legion were shit. Everything else in-between were so minor that they're almost irrelevant. Let's not even get into the DLCs, where Avellone seemed to have a boner for stupid shit that could irrevocably fuck up the west coast.
>>740052242He's the one who wrote Fallout 2 which was widely lambasted for its writing. Gonzales was the one responsible for NV
>>740052242>fuck tim cainI bet you would faggot.
>>740052307There are zoomers who were introduced to Fallout from New Vegas, tried to play 1 & 2 and then got filtered by how old the games are.
>>740036610Gun and titty sandbox. duh.
>>740052429Yeah but they don't hate 1 and 2, they just can't play them. They'll still likely larp and skim the wiki so they can pretend they've played them. The divide is west coast vs east coast, not that complicated.
>>740052325nobody should care what you think because you have slop taste and prefer bethesda garbage
>>740052469Refusing to play the game and reading the wiki for the story means they hate the game Anon.
>>740043946Minor spelling error. You lose.
>>740052534I don't, ass hat. I like 3, NV, and 4 equally, because I only play these games for post-apoc survival shit thanks to mods. If it weren't for mods NV would probably be my least favourite, solely due to the world design being a fucking bore to explore.
>>740049525Because there is a clear diving line between Bethesda's east coast fallout and Interplay/Obsidian's west coast fallout
>>740046807Both FO4 and NV are middle school tier writing though?
>>740052541Not at all. Seethe you dumb nigger.
>>740052609>mod coomer faggot >plays fallout for sheer replayability your opinions are now even more irrelevant
>>740052634No New Vegas actually had writing and worldbuilding
New Vegas had better music.
>>740052670>immediately went to coomer shitWay to out yourself tranny. All the survival, weapon, armour and quest mods for these games and your mind immediately went to shitty porn mods.
>>740036381The actual gameplay alone should be enough to repel you.
>>740052650What a ridiculous take. Fallout 1&2 are much more than their stories. If somebody likes the story enough to go deep into all the lore online, but refuses to engage with the game itself, they don't like the game.
>>740051856I liked Myron, he was pretty cute
>>740052719The writing and world building being "Somehow Ceasars Legion returned."
>>740052836Didn't read, nigger.
>>740036381Nah there's lore everywhere but you need to read notes and terminals. Even random bandit in the middle of the wilderness are part of a bandit subfaction.
>>740052920why the fuck would I care about the prewar when it's irrelevant why the fuck should I give a shit about boring nameless raiders if they're just people to shoot at compare that to actual towns and factions
>>740036271That's not really a thing in game. Cass is the only one who even alludes to it, and gay people don't exist if you don't take the gay perk. Which by the way is a very good way to handle including gay stuff in a RPG, as much as I'd love to excise all of this shit from public life forever, everyone else is disgusted by gay shit, but gay people want gay shit. So you make the gay mode.>>740038624I get that Daniel is dumb, but he's right about Joshua, and what he's doing to the tribes. They don't give a shit about Christianity, and are just following him as a warlord. They can barely even communicate. Now the trouble is that a strong warlord is actually a necessary prerequisite to virtue, and Daniel doesn't get that you can be extremely powerful, and just not commit horrible atrocities.
>>740053031>There's no lore>Actually there's lore>Why should I care!?!?!?!
>>740052919>huge earthbound fan excited to play it for first time kys retard. The fact that you've gotten so defensive over this means you're most likely a secondary who never played the original games.
>>740053087>go to random factory #2987 >kill the same nameless raiders >read notes and logs >mr kabbleberg owner of the sausage factory was very greedy and evil and caused many industrial accidents don't you know capitalism is le bad and the enclave was here that's fuck all lore nigger
>>740052865Ceasars legion was first introduced in new vegas so no Retard
>>740053057There is also a male prostitute who escaped from Legion territory after his affair with his Centurion owner was discovered.
>>740053204Nothing about "le ebil capitalism" in them though?
>>740053294Yeah it's a poorly thought out pastiche whose existence is dumber than Palpatine and his legion in The Rise of Skywalker
>>740036080>>Every faction makes good points but also has flaws that make it a tough choice for who's best for the WastelandI'm a hardcore NVfag and even I know this isn't true. Legion are bad with some good, NCR are good with some bad, Independent and House are just retarded.
>>740052859Gay pedo nigger
>>740054294Not in that way
>>740053135I have 200 hours in Fallout 1 and 600 hours in Fallout 2, nigger.
>>740038624>Sorrows are supposedly so good at killing yao guai its in dey culture>Waking Cloud gets absolutely evicerated by themI hate when games do that.
>>740049612>only reason to keep him around is because of the free power armor and Enclave helpThats his redeeming factor: after you get his dad's power armor (the best in the game) and the Enclave support at Hoover Dam he fucks off for the rest of the game.
>>740052587>welcome sir or madamProbably the most genius way to program an all-inclusive greeting for your robot vendor
>>740036080Why are Fallout 4 factions all so boring
>>740038624>This is not your home! Y-you weren't invited! Do what I say, you filthy gentile, I know what's best for them!>Father-in-the-what now? What caves?The hardest part was letting go of the desire to shoot that dumb fucker in the face
>imma conquer the world with red farts and vending machinesbruh what
>>740036381I have the urge to play it but the latest patch that they did to reflect the show, broke it ireppecably and the loading screen is insanely long
>>740036080>African Warlord levels of logistics and planningThis is the entire world of Fallout after Bethesda took over, including NV. YOU'RE JUST too stupid to see it.
>>740036080>flaws that make it a tough choice for who's best for the WastelandYou know what, what even is the wasteland? It seems like it's fine, the only issue is the fact that there's geopolitics feud.
>Minutemen consists of a bunch of farmers who live in "settlements" built with scrap, armed with laser muskets that take ages to recharge after a single shot and constantly harrased by everything that moves>Somehow take down the super technologically advanced organization of scientiests with an army of murder robotsI fucking hate minutemen.
>>740062021Railroad is worse.>Super secretive organization dedicated solely to saving pseudo humans risking lives of hundereds of actual real humans.I remember at least 2 Railroad missions where you find dozens of bodies of murdered agents, you end up wondering if they even saved this many synths. Would be much better story if Railroad was founded and lead by mostly runaway synths and your missions would be kidnapping suspected synth agents in the world and cracking their Institute chips to give them free will.
>>740049525because every Fallout work has a different writing and design philosophy that some in the fanbase swear by and others hate.>>Fallout 1Its fans have reasons to dislike all other works for getting too wacky. Meanwhile newer fans would get turned off by it being old, clunky, short and not really "feeling like Fallout" anymore by modern standards.>Fallout 2Like above, but the excessive pop culture references and wackiness give newer fans more fuel to dislike it than the first game.>Fallout 3At one point the vast majority of the fanbase, these are the people who got introduced to the franchise by Bethesda and didn't like later games more. They expect a classic Bethesda game and don't like the more rigid RPG systems of the OG games or NV, but don't want too much streamlining or making the world too cheery like 4 either.>FNVSomething between OG and Bethesda Fallout fans. They prefer better writing and RPG systems to a fun open world, but still expect Bethesda additions to the franchise like 3D, full voice acting, the ubiquitous 50s aesthetic and wacky vaults. They despise Bethesda games and the show the most because they've completely eclipsed NV in popularity while taking the franchise in a different direction than they wanted.>Fallout 4again at some point they were the vast majority of the fanbase. these guys are more into open world crafting and survival and care little for writing and RPG stuff. they likely don't care about any previous Fallout, and they're more likely to like the show since a lot of the game's additions made it in.>Fallout 76Like Fallout 4 fans, but even less interested in lore and writing.>Fallout showCurrently the vast majority of the fanbase. They're in it for fun, wackiness and references they can talk about with their coworkers. The more a fan cares about the lore and writing, the less they'll like the show. So in descending order of dislike it'd be NV, OG, 3, 4, 76 fans.
>>740036080>Fallout 4>Why are you replacing people with synths>ERM you wouldn't get it Bethesda Jew shills will defend this also the art director is a Jew that ruined the art direction of the entire franchise Even the dead guy from 3 did a better job
>>740057659Daniel is genuinely the only HH character where the game acts like he's the reasonable option while every single thing he says makes you want to side with the burned murder priest out of spite. Joshua is a psycho but at least he understands the tribes aren't museum exhibits he gets to curate.
>>740038624>The only tribe that can hurt the sorrows is White Legs>Enseeyar? what's that?
>>740036080every game needs a Yes Man option, not to experience some alternative path, but to reject the forced allegiances to shitty factions the game pushes on you
>>740036880>people no longer have access to Fluorinated water>they become retardedI wasn't told about this conspiracy theory! AYyy save me Joe Rogan!
>>740049612>Middle name is IsraelThis gets a pass thanks to this guy
>>740036080since this is the closest thing to a Fallout 4 thread, does anyone know about good lewd Assaultron mods? Been thinking about giving the game a try.
>>740062241>the road to the Railroad is literally a yellow line railroad to the door with a password "railroad"i refuse to believe any of that was written with a straight face, this level of genuine retardcy would collapse the universe
>>740044750Because 4 is massively more popular than NV. For instance it has more than 3x the players on steam alone and know it’s probably an even bigger difference on console
>>740049612This is the funniest character in all of vidya to me because I remember when /v/ would constantly shill this guy as “see, this is how you write a gay character where his sexuality isn’t in your face” then he’s the biggest, most flamboyant, prancing homo faggot ever. He makes bara porn game MCs look straight, what an absolute poofter
>>740062241The railroad is actually an interesting faction if you take a step back and look at what they actually are>a bunch of mega bourgeois privileged filth that are more concerned about fucking tin cans than humans in a setting where humanity faced constant threat every day, including threats from said tin cans. Literally being bankrolled by the richest characters in the setting.It could have been a fun, morally grey faction and a reflective allegory on the type of privileged loser that can spend all day on social media shilling for faggot rights because they have no real world problems to deal with, we get bland slop. Because they are written by the type of faggot who spends all day on social media shilling for faggot rights.
