why dont you just play it and make up your own mind DUMMY, its probably like 20 hours long at most

>>740047425
/vr/ is retarded, they unironically act like Zelda II is one of the best Zelda games.

ALTTP is a timeless classic that is basically the 2D version of OoT and better in nearly every way (except soundtrack)

>>740047425
if you want a walking sim, watch a video or read a book. if you want an actual game, 1cc a shmup. start with deathsmiles 2 or asuka & asuka if you are bad

>>740047493
wtf I love /vr/ now

Its the best 2d Zelda, play it right now idiot

>>740047425
think for yourself you tard

>>740047425
>>/vr/ says it's shit
It's literally one of the best games ever made, what total shit taste, holy fuck.

>>740047593
Shmups are so fucking boring

It's peak

>>740047920
it's ok if you're 9
>>740047963
you're like a pigeon talking about chess

You’re making this up because I made a /vr/ ALTTP thread last year and everyone loved the game.

>>740047425
/vr/ seethes about Nintendo even more than /v/ does. Alttp and Albw are both excellent

>>740048120
excellent for what? vegging out in front of a walking sim?

>>740048039
>>740047593
I've cleared over a hundred shmups, including tons of no-miss, multiloop, and scoreplay, far more than you or anyone else ITT.

Shmups are a bottom of the barrel tier genre for literal autists who love repetition, static memorization, and rigid structure. Even among (alleged) "shmup fans" most of them haven't cleared more than a few games and it's like pulling teeth getting them to play a genre they (allegedly) love.

>>740048256
i cleared six gorillion rpg's and they're all shit chud

ALTTP is kinda like a shmup if you think about it.

>>740048443
You should shmup the fuck up

>>740048443
>*hits bong*
DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDE

>>740048443
I just hufed a tiee gallopof Gasoline and o agree.

>>740047425
It's really over hyped, you beat it in like 3-4 hours then the game sticks you in this stupid fucking "evil world" endgame thing where' you're just supposed to grind forever i guess. Really up it's own ass design. Pretentious faggot shit.

>>740049035
Satire, trolling, or retarded?

>>740047425
I went into it with low expectations and annoyed after Zelda II and it became one of my top 5 games of all time (out of 1000+)

>>740047425
Link's Awakening is better

>>740049035
You dont "grind" in Zelda, Is not an rpg

>>740049168
why? haven't played neither yet but it's what people were saying in /vr/, to skip alttp and play link's awakening, that is the superior game

>>740049170
I got stuck running around a corrupted 1/5 of the map because i got a bad ending or some gay shit.

>>740049256
what the fuck are you talking about retard?

>>740049254
personally LTTP is probably my least favourite top-down Zelda, but it's still a great game. I find people's favourite tends to be the one they played first or the most as a kid lol. all the top down Zelda games are very strong (except maybe the DS games if you even count those), it's just an excellent formula. so which one you'll prefer mostly comes down to little things.

just play the damn game, it's not hard to get into.

>>740049158
>annoyed
shitter

>>740048443
trvke real shmupees should be capable of no-hitting blind without the cape or the blue cane

>>740047425
game is legendary.
zoomies hate it

>>740049470
Shit take with no substance or consequence.

>>740049559
ok

>>740049519
I’ve played the game so much to know that Blind has fixed rng so he always does the same stuff. No-hitting Mothula though? Yeah I did it once, somehow…

>>740049559
Post substantial consequential take

>>740047425
>>/vr/ says
kys

>>740049601
A Link to the Past is a bespoke, insist more with less upon itself, game. A spine-chilling experience set in a dark fantasy world where the bad guy has already won, featuring tense death traps that await our green-capped friend who’s looking to collect “the medallions” to awaken the legendary blade of legend: the Master Sword. To avenge his uncle’s death and at the behest of a wise old sage, Sarahaslahasahlasaha, Link will avenge the kingdom with possibly the most satisfying execution in the series. The only downside? There’s no cute imp girl with you the entire time, but you can make your sword golden.

>>740049508
I beat it on original hardware, it's just not a very good game, especially coming right off of Zelda 1

>>740049736
there's no tension because the game is way too easy

>>740049853
Wrong. The imposing worm atop the large tower that shall not be named sent many players tumbling down over and over again. The allusion? Humpty Dumpty. From Puss in Boots.

>>740049918
alttp asks you to be a 6 year old to fully enjoy it. that's entirely unreasonable. i'm 2good now

>>740050063
But what does that make Ocarina of Time? That’s right, a game you can’t enjoy unless you’re -1 years old. Which is impossible, it just is.

>>740050167
shiieeeeeeeeeet

>>740047425
>listening to anyone on /v/
Don't do this

>>740047425
/vr/ are dumb faggots who only exist to argue over what's retro: even /v/ is preferable to their company. Take it from me, it's worth your time.

>>740047425
/vr/ says everything is shit.

>>740047425
3d zelda is just 2d zelda but better so I never bothered with these games

>>740047425
A Link to the Past is one of the best games in the series.
t. zoomer who played it for the first time this year

>>740047425
Kek I saw that thread.

ALttP isn't perfect, but it's arguably the best 2D Zelda. Only OoA/OoS comes close.

>>740050167
This why you should just play shmups, a genre for mature adults such as myself.

>>740049470
>tends to be
Fair enough but I'm a literal oldfag that started with Zelda 1 but LTTP is my favorite with Twilight Princess being a close second (and TOTK being a close third).

>>740050624
What about Beat em' ups

>>740050910
>and TOTK being a close third
you sound based

The only games /vr/ unanimously like are Doom 2 or Quake.

>>740047425
Play the superior NES entries.

>>740050954
lower skill ceiling, less games

>>740047593
shmups don't require skill, only memorization

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>>740049168
>clear object in path
>leave screen
>it's back
literally unplayable dogshit

>>740051289
wtf i love read em ups now

>>740051218
Shmups have a high skill floor but the ceiling is close to that floor. Shmups are like a penthouse while Beat 'Em Ups are like a castle on top of a moat.

>>740051424
I 1cc'd sailor moon in a couple of hours. a 3d one like god hand is respectable but there arent really any 3d beat em ups

there are low floor low ceiling shmups like console shmups or some old arcade ones. and there are also low floor high ceiling ones, high floor high ceiling ones. so many entries, so they have more variation. beat em ups are too few in number to appeal to me

>>740047425
/vr/ is 100% contrarian autists who will call any well established, good game bad. In fact, just play the opposite of what /vr/ says is good.

>>740047425
It is one of the best games ever made. Just ignore the retards and play it, dummy.

I was playing it a second ago. stopped to shitpost

>>740051809
you have to be a retarded 5 year old to like it

>>740051754
>/v/ is 100% contrarian autists who will call any well established, good game bad. In fact, just play the opposite of what /v/ says is good.

>>740051838
are you playing through the pc decomp in widescreen?
it looks amazing

>>740053738
nta but widescreen for top down games does nothing for me

>>740053890
it fills your entire monitor and you can see more of the world

>>740047493
Spbp /thread

>>740047425
It's literally the template for Zelda games from 1995 to 2011, you can't go wrong.

>>740047493
>except soundtrack
Highly debatable.

>>740047425
it is shit, don't play it

>>740054306
which is why it's ass, congrats on proving the point

>>740047493
Zelda II is underrated but it's not one of the best at all. It's not bad, though.

>>740047425
>listening to retarded webniggers instead of making actionable plans and deciding what you enjoy with your own fucking perspective
You have two options at this point, leave 4chan and never return or eat a bullet RIGHT NOW before the infection is complete.

>>740052698
>>740051754
This, but unironically.

>>740047425
No one actually thinks it's shit, it's just the same 2 guys reposting the same "why is aLttP considered bad now????" threads every week.

>>740055212
i think that cause playing it for the first time recently it was ass that didn't held up. There's a reason OOT is VERY obvious with where to go next - cause ALTTP was not

>>740047493
Zelda 2 isn't good. It looks great when you compare it to a massive library of shovelware on the NES, but it's pure delusion and hipster contrarianism to pretend that it's a good game. Nobody who has beaten Death Mountain says it's a good game. It's the Earthbound larp of hardcore gaming.

>>740056440
It's good because it is challenging in spite of its simplistic/bad ai and better movement. It might not seem much, but a lot of game devs skip the core fundamentals.

>>740056440
It's a mediocre game, but it has a lot of charm and idiosyncrasies that elevates it to a game worth experiencing if you're a fan of the series.

>>740047425
it's fine
it's a bottom three 2d zelda though

a link to the past was great. it was still when Zelda was a wholesome game series. Everything started going wrong when they added that blue midget whose body is roughly 90% buttocks.

>>740057245
>it's a top one 2d zelda though
ftfy

You can skip it.

Play it anyway, then up make your own mind whether or not it is or isn't. You're already wasting time playing video games so don't worry about trying to maximize the "best games" or fitting in. Once you've played through a couple ones you find either good or bad you'll then have an easier time knowing and deciding what type of games you actually want to play and naturally start steering in that direction. But you have to actually explore and temper your own tastes by trying it.

It's not shit if you're still 7-12 years old range. Just like every other soitendo game.

>>740047472
>20 hours
You mean 20 minutes...

>>740047425
you don't deserve to be happy if /v/'s opinion is enough to convince you of anything

>>740047493
>/vr/ is retarded, they unironically act like Zelda II is one of the best Zelda games.
it is, zoomshit faggot

take zelda 2
makes the combat drastically shittier
remove the exploration
add a shitty phoned in story that does nothing but waste your time
make zelda uglier
dumb down the difficulty
make link look like a big gay faggot with pink hair
and you end up with alttp for faggoty double digit iq sneszoomers

>>740060387
Zelda 2's combat is fucking terrible and you are a retarded subhuman
>jarpiggy grinding crap in an action game
>this jarpiggy grinding crap leads to MASSIVE power differences
>where just a couple levels (few minutes of grinding) makes you literally TWICE as strong
>instead of actually adventuring and finding gear that gives you a satisfying power increase, you.... just farm the same trashmob 200x and congrats you got the master sword now!!!
>trashmobs can take 10+ hits to die and one shot you, or die in one hit and need 10+ hits to kill you purely depending on your jarpiggy grinding level
>shitty, broken hitboxes for numerous enemies
>tiny little dagger sword that jabs 3 inches in front of Link
>combat is massively dumbed down as you only have left/right to move instead of all four directions, and most fights are now just 1v1 instead of vs multiple enemies; nothing better exemplifies this than the shitty final boss where you sit in a corner the whole time
>downward stab attack is insanely OP against every enemy it works against (or you can just jump right past them)
>magic system that encourages just ignoring enemies

>>740060427
>had this ai copypasta read to go in a txt file
pfffttthahaha, why are a tranny to the past faggots so insecure of zelda mogging the fuck out of their childhood shovelware

>>740060387
ALTTP is an upgrade to Zelda 1 in nearly every way, while Zelda 2 is a downgrade from Zelda 1 in nearly every way.

ALTTP feels like the true sequel and improvement to 1. Art, music, story, controls, combat, enemy design, boss design, puzzles, overworld density and secrets, and especially dungeon design are massively improved in ALTTP over 1. I do think 1 has slightly better overworld exploration/sense of adventure due to more immediacy and everything being open from jump, but ALTTP is still easily the better game overall.

Zelda 2 does almost nothing well compared to its peers. It's an acceptable game on its own, but compared to the Zelda games that came before and after, it's extremely underwhelming.

>>740060465
>of zelda
zelda ii *

>>740060387
The only thing Zelda 2tards can ever cling onto is the challenge because every other aspect of their game is putrid dogshit.

But it's funny because even the "challenge" is almost entirely the obtuse progression and being underleveled. The combat is unforgiving with a moderately high skill floor but very low skill ceiling; it's extremely shallow once you learn the basics. There is only one of like four tactics that you will ever use for every given enemy in the game, and they all require very low execution skill, so combat becomes very formulaic. And since every combat encounter is such a segmented 1v1 with little consideration for other enemies or the environment, you will never have to deviate from those tactics and will rarely ever face unique and dynamic situations.

Not to mention bosses are pushovers with very limited and predictable movesets, the magic system encourages you to use fairy magic to skip and completely bypass huge portions of levels, you can just jump right over and bypass most enemies in the game, the pogo jump is completely OP against any enemies it works against, your sword has incredibly short range and feels very unsatisfying to use, the hitboxes are really wonky and inconsistent, the final boss in the game really just sums up how incredibly laughable the combat system is where the optimal strategy is to sit in the corner and mash attack with your eyes closed, and it has basically no replay value as the combat is shallow and one-dimensional with no additional difficulty modes, Second Quest, builds, or playstyles.

>>740047425
A Brap to the Past is indeed a dull baby game for mulattos that fails to live up to the expectations and legacy set by Zelda 2.