Sony reports massive 30 million sales loss from its extremely lackluster first party output.What went wrong? I thought Marathon and Saros would sell gangbusters, but it seems the audience is betraying us.
get woke, go broke.
>make bad games>why dont they sell?
>>740060724This information has always been publicly available for years, one journalist pointed it out and now all the other urinalist rats are jumping on the bandwagon.
Remember, they could stop this tomorrow by FUCKING SELLING GAMES AND NOT SERVICE SLOP
Jean Grey game would save SonyTrust the plan!
>>740060724Maybe if they released more games, people would buy some games? With the caveat that they also have to make games that people actually want to play
What's funny is that they will continue to bruteforce live service success, burning hundreds of millions of dollars for all eternity just because Fortnite got success.
>usfuck off shill
>Live-service slop>Homogenization of their single-player gamesYeah its pretty rough. Nintendo is absolutely raping them when it comes to both quality and variety
I can only imagine all the amazing shit they turn down in favor of pouring money down the GAAS chute
>>740060724Oh oh, Sony is about to start gutting their Western studios into oblivion.
I haven't wanted to play a Sony first party game since Bloodborne.
>>740060724They trooned out and found out
If India didn't exist, Snoy would've went out of business years ago. Snoyjeets buying divegrass games is the only thing keeping them afloat.
>>740060724As one of the like five people who actually love the original marathon trilogy, the new one flopping hard tickles me in a sexual way
>>740061224That's literally the last game Snoy produced.
>>740060724Saros is very fun gameplay-wise but it had a few things going against it. Mainly the Indian and $70 is too much for the little content it has
>>740061045It's why they are not bringing their Single Player games to PC anymore but will be more than happy to still throw out whatever multiplayer GaaS they have to Steam, both for the money and to say to investors 'Look at how many new people we got to sign up to the Playstation Network!'.
>>740060724>want to go exclusiveAnd as if this will change anythingIt will only go worse for them
>>740060724Meanwhile Xbox published games are selling like crazy on the PS5.
>>740060724>SarosSAAAAAARRRRRRRR the game
>>740060724Should have made games for their audience instead of retarded twitter fags
>>740060724>Me while reading this when I got to the numbers
>>740060724>28million sales for all 1st party Playstation games in PS4, PS5 and PC in 2025By comparison Pokemon alone sold 26million games last year
>>740061663Xbox is a dead platform, what did you expect?
>>740060724I bet Niel Druckman's bosses are barking at him to rework the game so the protag has hair. intergalactic is too expensive to risk bombing with unconventional character design. Bald protags can work, but bald female protags are too risky.
Surely one of these games with fat dykes will take off! Keep pumping trillions into them!
Back in the old days they spread their resources to make all kinds of games. Small and big. Now they focus exclusively on big AAA cinematic crap that takes 5-9 years to develop so they ended up with like 5 games this entire gen. All because the western branches convinced them to close down their japanese studios and move here.
>>740060724Antisemitic and anti-Israel gamers are to blame. It's a digital shoah!
>>740062194Don't worryThe new horizon will be the big breakthrough
>>740060724Sony will remain dead until they brutally execute herman hulst and revive japan studio.
people got tired of every game turning into TLOU-lite with feminine melodrama and forced writing.
So in the future they will just axe their first party studios entirely? It’s not like they need them as sonyfags are absolute cattle that donate billions just to use their own internet.
>>740060821You have been banned for racism.
>>740060821Sorry, we still want that money Fortnite keeps showing to us and our investors are getting pissy.Phil Spencer did near unrecoverable damage.
>>740061045Sony already ended their push for GaaS, they just shit out what's still in the pipeline. What you see is just the years long lag.I think studios already set out on a new trend which might be Roblox considering even Fortnite tries to mimic its success.
>>740062325>>740062509>>740060724Sorry but its not Hermen Hulst's or Neil Druckmann's fault. The blame lies on Team Asobi and Sony Polophony
>>740060821Nah. The phenomenon we're seeing here is simply all the normalfags who joined the video games hobby back in 2010-ish leave it again because they're getting bored/making families/careers. The industry is accustomed to huge numbers now that were obviously just a fad, now what they'll have left in the near future are those actual vidya enthusiasts, you know, that group they tried their damnedest to alienate the past 1.5 decades.
>>740060724The disconnect between developers and players is most obvious in Sony, taken over by people who are too greedy for money or have their head so far up their own ass they forgot who they are meant to appeal to.
>>740062550That's what I'm expecting. They already have placements set-up through second-party partnerships through their own XDev. They really don't need these tired first-party devs anymore except Team Asobi and Polyphony Digital Inc. They may put some of their smaller Western first-party studios on other projects over these realistic movie shit.
>>740060724Nobody wants to play wokeslop.Jim Ryan fucked PlayStation so incredibly hard.
>>740062685Unfortunately for you, Hermen Hulst and Sony's Western AAA studios are getting all the blame and Team Asobi and Polyphony are being shown to these retards as examples. Sony is about to have an open season on their Western studios and it's going to be great.
>>740060821This is a cope of exsnoys. No one ever gave a single shit about sonys laughable bad first party output. The software to hardware sales clearly shows that.
>make literally no fucking games>sales go downWOW
>>740060724what first party output they released no games on ps5
>>740062758I love how the liberals rolled being black or brown into being a form of being a fag.
>>740060724This is what you get for killing Concord. You could have waited, you could have made a Concordillion of dollars eventually, but you decided to pull the plug early. Now suffer Sony
>>740060724The collapse is because of the failed projects they made. The disaster of Concord and Marathon were not the massive success they thought they would be. If they were smart they would drop anything done by the devs of Concord and fire everyone involved in it. I think Marathon looks cool and has a chance though.
>>740060724>snoy losing millions>somehow decides now would be a good time to force age verificationrest in piss, I can only hope the average consoomer is smart enough to say no.
>>740062675>Sony already ended their push for GaaS, they just shit out what's still in the pipeline. What you see is just the years long lag.That's what you copers said about wokeshit too btw
>>740063316Not him but Sony is ending both, cost them too much money.
>>740060724Can’t sell games if they don’t make games.They own hundreds of IPs but instead choose to waste time on GaaS such as Marathon and Concord (and Marathon used to be a good single player game)
>>740060724Finally a feel good story this week.Fuck sony and their garbage games for mongoloids.
>>740063256Sony will give up on that. They tried to force RealID for the PS3 launch and got so btfo in the first year of that gen that they rolled it back. Not that it was ever a serious effort. I enrolled with a hotmail and I entered my state's capitol as my street address and my name was my favorite band. That was enough for Sony. They try this BS to show the WEF or Club of Rome that they're on the same side, probably to secure good loan terms, and then just "oh ooops looks like this isn't market viable we'll try again next gen".
>>740063256>age verification >after they got hacked multiple timesLmao
>>740063341Proofs? All their shit is still woke.
>>740060724>FY2018: 54.1 million sales>FY2019: 49.2 million sales>FY2020: 58.4 million sales>FY2021: 43.9 million sales>FY2022: 43.5 million sales>FY2023: 39.7 million sales>FY2024: 28.9 million sales>FY2025: 32.1 million sales
This year is going to be way better, they already released bangers like>GoW Sons of Sparta >Marathon >SarosAnd soon Wolverine, marvel tokon, break in, and horizon hunters gathering.100+ million sales forcasted
>>740062675>We lost billions of dollars trend chasing a niche and highly consolidated corner of the market!>Hm, what do we do then?>Dunno, how about we chase trend another highly consolidated corner of the market?>Genius, do it.
>>740060724>What went wrong?Brands are propped out by a consistent output of quality games from small dev teams (such as the ones Sony shuttered)Nobody gives a fuck about the AAAA crap that takes 5 years to come out
>>740063613Genuinely depressing post.
>>740063583Naughty Dog's vidoc censored the fag flag, Bungie's latest Marathon vidoc removed the pronouns. Sony has canceled most of their live-service games.
I'm sure Fairgame$ will save them
>>740060724i'm just going to say it againMAYBE THEY SHOULD GO BACK TO MAKING GAMES THAT GAMERS ACTUALLY WANT TO PLAYNO MORE LECTURING AND WOKE SHIT, PUT HOT GIRLS AND COOL GUYS BACK IN GAMES
>>740060724>don't make games>don't sell copieswho woulda thunk it?
>>740060724>make nothing but shitty games>sales collapseNobody will ever understand how this happened.
>>740063613>These flops will save SonyKekIt's so over
>What went wrong?#NoGames
>>740060870More like Jeet Grey
>>740063683Can't believe they're refusing to cancel it.
>>740060724they keep making games with unappealing characters and expecting people to buy them. i'm sure we'll see plenty of those at today's state of play
>>740060724Apart from making shit games, it's inflation that is killing them even harder. People's wages aren't going up but there's increased liquidity in the market because of government and central banks, so prices are rising but plebs think it's just greed and not their dollar losing value. At some point, when you see indie devs raise prices, you'll understand at the root of the industry being shit, it's because they have infinite liquidity and loans so they're decadent and full of hubris, making slop and trying to trick you into buying it. It's coming to an end because people can't afford the price rises.
>>740063747>They double down >Changed the name >Pump more money into it>Made it an extraction shooter Can't wait
>>740063669>They canceled most of their woke games!>All that's left is their remaining woke games!So where's the non-woke games? Do you even understand your own argument?
>>740063729Whoever made this image has never had a PS1 or PS2, owned PS1 and PS2 games, the dopey fucker mixed them up.
>>740063778Marathon is only $40 And they had sales where it was $32
go back in time and don't listen to the moron who said give up on japan for the west.
>>740063683It's called Br€ak In now
>>740063145Seriously if i was black i would be pissed
>>740063836Lol they wanted Marathon to be some 80 dollar slop. It's 32 right now and sold for 40 beforehand because they know how much backlash they were going to get for making slop, and even then, 32 is too much for that piece of shit Marathon when you can get indie games that are way better, for cheaper. No, not the same kind of game, because that's slop, just better games that aren't slop.
>>740063878Gonna be "Don't ₹ape us too hard on the reviews" soon.
>>740063890Pretty sure both blacks and gays are pissed
Maybe they should make low budget games that can make a profit even if they don't sell a billion copies.
>>740063729>PS4 with nothing but BBAnd it was totally worth it
>>740063937LMAO
>>740063613>They haven't sales brag about son of Sparta, marathon or Saros on Twitter Not a good sign
Wow is that a VIDEO GAME THREAD?!>Look inside>Chart/financial report threadMove it to /biz/ faggot
>>740060724>I thought Marathon and Saros would sell gangbusters
>>740064061>video game companies aren't video games
>>740060724The tactic of releasing only one worthwhile title each gen isn't working out for them.
>I-it's fine, guys... only one GAAS needs to be successfulHow many do they have left?Marathon is dying and fairgames is not out yet
Microsoft or Nintendo aren't doing any better
>>740060821They will never go back to the glory days of the PS1/PS2. That spirit of PlayStation is dead.
>>740064657They still have >Marvel Tokon fighting soul>4loop>Project Gummy Bear >Horizon hunters gathering >Horizon steel frontier
>>740060821I reported that post for antisemitism
They shouldn't have killed Japan Studio.
>>740063803We won't see them until the PS6 generation.
>>740064791wait, there's TWO horizon live service game?
>>740064880>Horizon steel frontier>mmo>developed by ncsoftAyy, lmao.
>>740060724haha xbox made 4 billy net profit haha
>>740060724>The days of games being made for you is over! We're entering the era of mediocre live service games where you get nickel and dimed to be pelted with propaganda from people who hate you for extremely hypocritical and self-absorbed reasons!The industry betrayed gamers. Gamers simply refused to play the role that the industry had designated for them.
>>740064880Yeah, no one knows what they're doing making two game competing with each otherSteel Frontier is actually the better of the two, but it's going to be plagued by having NCsoft as the devs, so it'll monetized to hell and back
>>740060724They just need to make the women uglier and less appealing. Trust the plan.
>>740063890All the lgbtq blm shit isn't about or for the vast majority of blacks anyways. Only a minority of white people care about that shit.
>>740064679Nintendo has no games worth playing but they have a market unlike sony. Pokopia and tomodachi life alone probably sold more than sony's 2025.
>>740060724>have destiny 2 audience telling you for millenia that bungo can't do pvp for shit>lets make destiny 2 pvp but fotm game mode the game>woah why doesn't it sell ?
>>740065436The games are coming is the thing. Unlike Sony. The SW2 will outsell the PS5 as well. So Sony is getting double fucked by better software support coming to Nintendo and hardware sales.
>make super expensive games that will no way recoup costs in a time fashion>don't sell because they aren't what gamers want>"no, it is the customers who are wrong, this is economic terrorism"
>>740060724>Hey, you know that live service game we spent years developing that was a massive flop and created a $2 Billion hole in our finances?>What if we tried doing that again?
>>740060724All their first party games are the same! It's either cinematic story-driven or live-service. Make a variety of genres, racing, kart racing, fighting, 3D and 2D platformers, strategy, puzzle, RPGs... and have them be of mid / low and of smaller scale like Nintendo... that's why Nintendo can get literally one new exclusive every month and they all sell more than your movie stuff
>>740060724>Port your shit to PC because you think Microsoft is becoming a third party for your machine>People on PC don't give a shit about your movie games>Backtrack out of the PC market and cope it's about low sales>Turns out your shit isn't selling on your own console anyway.Lmao
>>740066161They made Astro Bot, won GOTY, highest reviewed game of the year. Still sold like shit. People just aren't buying games like before regardless of quality or genre. FF7 Rebirth flopped, easily one of the best jrpg's since the PS2 days but still flopped.
>>740063747I think it's better this way. Maybe they'll finally learn their lesson when they get yet another Concord-tier flop.
>>740067161Yeah I'm sure Concord 5 will wake them up.
>>740060724>release samey third person cinematic experiences that take 7 years to make literally ZERO genre diversity>all are pozzed as fuck too>fuck up first party output by pushing live service slop tooTruly mysterious how could this happen.
>>740060724Nobody to blame but themselves and the kinds of dogshit games they keep making. Desperately trying for exclusivity is only going to make it worse.
>>740067161>>740067260Western AAA devs are clearly shaken by the culture surrounding gaming right now.But I fully expect them to squander what little time they have to save themselves on trying to figure out the absolute bare minimum amount of ground they need to cede instead of just firing whichever waste of oxygen >>740060870 was modeled after and being done with it.
>>740067078Just because something reviews well and wins an award means it's good.>FF7 Rebirth floppedDESERVEDLY SO.
>>740067078Look up least selling Sony first party games of last 13 years anon. Yes its AstroBot and Ratchet Rift Apart so the ONLY games that arent typical realistic third person cinematic experiences. Modern Playstation fans WANT these type of games because thats whats synonymous brand is with for them and its Sonys fault. They dont give a fuck about other type of games they want their third person cinematic slop. Even shit like Saaros flopped because its arcadey tps roguelike trying to ape these cinematic games with its presentation and story. Games entire /v/ dunks on are games modern Playstation fans want and buy thats a fact.
>>740064765Well the entire success of those "glory days" was the result of third party releases, not Snoy first party games. It's arguably the PS2/3 where their 1st party output started to become ""strong"", but with the former they still had strong 3rd party exclusives.
>>740060798Nintendo's bad games sell so yeah, why don't Sony's?
>>740060724Most profitable gen ever by the way.
I miss her so much bros...
>>740067698the proto-Concord...
>>740067712Battleborn and Lawbreakers called.Spooky, I know.
>>740067515People forgot how much Sony was boosted with retarded japs going Playstation exclusive by default while ignoring other platforms even Nintendo too. After that changed all they have are their western studios that shit out samey The Last of Us clones for last 10 years lmao. All these JRPGs like Persona 5 and other exclusive PS titles were third party developed so after this stopped their output became dogshit and only reason why people didnt realized is due to muttsoft fucking up even more.
>>740067698>black>female>broccoli hair>probably listening to hiphopNope, it's not gamin' time.
>>740067796>Battleborn and LawbreakersNot Snoy
>>740060724>Release garbage movies disguised as video games>Gamers don't want to buy them>People buy bing bing wahoo because it's a game first and everything else second>A team of the most expensive marketers just can't figure this one out
>>740067078It sold more than Saros, Death Stranding 2 and Demons Souls that probably had 10x the budget. And looking at the SIE titles that sold better than Astrobot (Spider-Man 2, GT7, GOW, Ghost of Yotei, Stellar Blade, Ratchet and Clank) I think they're mostly alright, nothing Horizon tier of shittyness.
>>740067617Sonys userbase simply has much more to play than mostly first party exclusives, PS5 also happens to be the best console experience for said games as well.
>>740060724what's the problem exactly?
>stop employing people>make everything more expensive>deny people the ability to be happy on their own terms in society>off-load your actual creativity to AI and producing slop>"why don't they buy our games?"You dug your own grave.
>>740060724How come you didn't post this?
>>740067617Nintendo appeals to kids, kids usually don't have such higher standards a 25yo adult would have since they have less life experience.Plus, most Nintendo games are geared to women, women are consoomerists that buy on a whim without thinking twice, so it's easier to trick women into bad products.The only thing you need to sell games to women is to appeal to some feel good emotion and sales will come.
>>740061335and even then it was just like demons's souls where they funnel money into an otherwise independent studio with talent
>>740067839Yes, but I'm just saying there were already dead canaries in the mineshaft before Concord decided to fly in.
>what do you mean my pajeet simulator didn't sell?
>>740067078>FF7 Rebirth flopped, easily one of the best jrpg's since the PS2 days
>>740068119*before SIE decided to fly in!fuck
>>740061224Indeed
>>740060724>not release the PC version on day 1found your problem
>>740068015If the oh so mature snoys will put spider man and eafc on the top 3 highest selling piss5 then i'm afraid females and kids might have better taste in videogames than whatever you snoys think a 'mature' gamer is.
>2020 is COVID and they had like 4-5 first party games, with all being on PS4>2021 is Returnal which only sold 2m and Rift Apart <5m sales and R&C isn't a mega seller anyways>2022 is God of War Ragnarok, Horizon 2 and....>2023 is just Spiderman 2>2024 is CONCORD and Astrobot, plus Helldivers 2Basically, Sony just doesn't put enough games out and there is 1 outlier year which was Covid. 2021 to 2022 didn't change much despite having the bigger franchises release in 2022.
>>740068158You know it's bad when NO ONE talks about the literal gay cuck pajeet simulator.
>>740060724god i hope the wolverine game flops, it will be one step closer for sony to close their gaming division
>>740066213Their approach to PC ports is absolutely atrocious. Delays of six months to several years? By the time the game finally arrives, the hype is long dead. Then they sell an old game at full price and wonder why PC sales are poor.
>>740067698ikr
>>740060724>Should've not jumped to the woke wagon>Should've not jumped to the live-service wagon>Should've not bought Bungie>Should've not closed Japan Studios>Should've fired people like Neil and keep people like Amy and Bruce>Should've never gone to California>Should've never let Jim take over>Should've never allowed Jim to jump to the live-service wagon...And that's not to mention the scams they do with the PS Store. And that's all just the peak of the iceberg.
>>740063641What do you expect? Indies still shit out rougelikes, metroidvanias and soulslike to this day and the consumer shows no exhaustion to suck it up. The industry tried it with Moba and TCG and Auto Chess and Hero Shooter and Extraction Shooters. They are not going to stop chasing trends.The sandbox game space isn't even that consolidated, Fortnite wasn't the first either.You don't get an AAA budget for 'the next Wonderful 101'
Normies don't buy games.
>>740060870Is that real, chat?
>>740062454Even if that happens, they audience is long gone.Look at the "leak" thread. It's obviously made in jest, it's actually terrible and snoys are actually praying that shit is real.That's how bad it is.
>>740068347I just was trying to say they appealed to mature audiences, never tried to imply the people buying them were, in fact, adults.Although by now it's pretty well known that snoys have the taste in their asses.Personally, despite what other anons say, most Nintendo games are objectively more fun than sony games, that's why they usually sell better.
Advice to Sony :-Fire every single jew form your company (they race mix so you probably have half japanese half jews, or even 25% running around not to be trusted)-Never take any consultant or whatever for woke of jewy shit-Rely on your own money instead of external investment, go slow, go steady, go big-buy back shares when things go to shit and prices lowerAt this rate if you dont do it jews will bury you completely. Get the coke out of your nose and go samurai
>>740060724Same problem as ubisoft. The normies actually eat up and enjoy shitty games but they listen to the core for purchasing advice, if you piss off the core like sony did with their woke propaganda then bad word of mouth means nobody wants your games anymore.
>>740068630Nope, not gamin' time.
>>740060724Good...
The industry is moving on from selling to poorfags. Revenue is up every year, all that matters.A couple of million poorfags not buying game sis working as intended.
Ban steam chart threads.
>>740060724You gotta be way way out of the loop if you'd think saaaaarOS and Flopathon would amount to anything, nobody wants shit games like those. These coropo fucks are so behind schedule it's embarrassing. First order of business, get the Gen X faggots out of the office, it's time for a Chadlennial to sit on the corporate throne and give the people what they actually want.
>>740068685Good original games, less trend chasing.You can think what you want of the playstation "cinematic AAA games" aka movie games era but it made a shit ton of money for sony and it was, at least at the time, something they spearheaded and dominated. It was their "thing" that nobody else could compete with.
>>740063729There are nowhere near that many PS3 games worth playing, even if you're throwing in non-exclusives. It was itself the nogaems console of its day, yet zoomer retards who had one as a kid now elevate it due to nostalgia.
>>740061224Learn what first-party game means
didn't Sony also say that they wont even port games to PC anymore? will they crawl back to steam?
>>740062016>Pokemon alone sold 26million games last yearJesus Christ...
>>740069382>Yes, Bloodborne is a first-party Sony game. While it was developed by the third-party studio FromSoftware, Sony Interactive Entertainment funded the game and owns the intellectual property (IP) rights, publishing it as a PlayStation 4 exclusive.tldr: Grok says you are fucking retarded anon
>>740067796their designs weren't nearly as bad. You really have to see the ladder >Lawbreakers, Battlebornokayish designs, most which are rather bland>destruction all stars, Bleeding Edgeugly designs with a few okayish ones>Concord, Hyenasall ugly and bland
>>740069218>poorfags aren't "buying" our f2p/discount price live service slop >only money they make is on their cut of third party sales and ps+ subsOk, lol.
>>740060870>no tits>no hips>no assand her face reminds of an oblivion npc
Most singleplayer AAA games in general sell worse with every passing year because gen Z does not leave their forever slop games and milennials are aging out of videogames
WHY DID YOU NOT REDEEM THE SAAROS GAME YOU BLOODY BASTARD?
>>740060724
>>740069545and because zoomers are not retarded and dont want to spend 7'€ for a 10h game
>>740069564>YOU BLOODY BASTARDLOL
>>740060724The only PS5 exclusive I have any interest in is the Demons Souls demake.They completely lost me as a customer, having owned every PS1 thru 4. I feel like im missing nothing on PC.
>>74006960770*
>>740069438>Grok says Kys, you absolute waste of oxygenhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_developer#Second-party_developers
>>740060870That looks like a 45 year old mom who chain smokes because she regrets her marriage
>>740060724PCfags did this
>>740069676>first party game>links second party DEVELOPERS listuh anon do you have at least 80 IQ? even AI is smarter than you
Nintendomination!
>>740060724Losses will continue until games cater to ME.
>>740069723>first party gameBloodborne is second-party>DEVELOPERS listIt's not a list, retard. It's a definition. You could scroll up a single line to read the definition of what first-party means too, if you weren't a sub room temperature iq monkey with his thought processes completely replaced by LLMs
>>740069938How dare you want your hobby to cater to you! Don't you know that everything aimed at Karen needs to be exclusively aimed at Karen and everything aimed at you also needs to include Karen?!
>>740069953>Bloodborne is second-partyso why does Sony own the IP then and not FROM? answer the question
>>740069064Sony is a multinational and Japan is owned by the USA, to the point the JDF don't even have offensive capabilities to this day.
>>740069953how about a non AI source then?https://www.kitguru.net/gaming/mustafa-mahmoud/bloodborne-is-the-10th-best-selling-first-party-ps4-game-of-all-time/
>>740069780Nice monkey cheeks.
>>740070013>so why does Sony own the IPBecause that's how second-party works. If FromSoft owned the IP, it would be third-party
Is there any other industry besides entertainment where you can so blatantly ignore what customers want and do the exact opposite?
>>740070083>noname source, not even gaming one
>>740070231Demons Souls and Bloodborne are pure Sony games, they 100% own the IP and calling them second party is retardedits like saying all those Metroid, Zelda and Mario games that are not made by Nintendo are second party games
>>740060724>don't make games>wtf? games aren't selling?:O
>>740069338this was already the beginning of the end. PS3 burned through a lot of goodwill and PS4 got lucky by the competition shooting themself in the foot.Not like they ever stopped making cinematic games>>740070283entertainment is commercialized art that has no direct competition. You can't take Kanye West Wolves and remove the vocals and sell it, but you can buy rocks from a store and glue googly eyes to them and without needing a license for either the rock nor the googly eyes.That being said, yes, just look into the whole tech space. Ai took off before anyone even knew if you could make any money from it.
>>740070283yeah the car industry, its 5 times worse
>>740060724it will go back when they stop releasing them on PC trust the retarded plan lmao
>>740069780>>740069603>>740069253What's with this falseflagging?
>>740062016not surprising though. even the worst Pokémon game is more enjoyable, fun and have more replayability than the best Sony game.
>>740070645>they 100% own the IPThat doesn't contradict the meaning of second-party>that are not made by Nintendo are second party gamesYesOnce and for all>first-party - a game developed by an in-house studio of a platform holder>second-party - a game developed by an external studio and published by a platform holder. IP rights depend on a contract>third-party - a game by an external studio/publisher
>>740067617Like the other anon stated before me: Sony doesn´t exclusively pander to kids, parents and normies. Ninten do.While sony does pander to normies (/tv/ practically) aswell, they focus to much on cinema slop and pandering too much to mystery meats. Even the worst Ninny exclusive does have better gameplay than everything from sonys exclusive catalouge. Sony doesn´t also have one decet couch coop game so these people pratically go all to nintardo. Looking completely subjective on that since my last ninny console was a Pii and my last snoy was a piss4. Currently Sony is absolutely the bottom of the barrel tier with their only focus on ball and gun gaymers of mixed descent.
>>740064791why are they trying to make horizon some big shit when its not. I know so many people with ps4/5s but none owns horizon games or they just won't admit it
>>740065356Jews are not white.
>>740069253>75% remakes/remastersoh yey.
>>740062194>pumping trillionsI am completely sure that those trillions are purely speculative and only reported as a "loss" for some tax manipulation.
>>740071449Horizon is like the Avatar movies.Moves a lot of product but has no cultural impact.
>>740060724>[Apocalyptic News]>look inside>[Great News]
>>740071597they're still better than any new game sony releases.
>>740067796The hardcore woke with french feminist activists you know as of today started in 2019 with far cry new dawn and destruction allstars
>>740071725thats the sad part about it. we are cursed with mid shit and abmyssal exclusives for all eternity
>>740067698Stop sexualizing women
>>740071851Is this real or an AI-genned shitpost?
>>740064835>PS6 rolls around>the handful of good games are locked behind an always-online, digital only age verification and biometric ID required DRM box which bricks itself if you breathe the wrong wayWhat's the point?
>dont sell something>somehow this is a "loss sale"fucking companies and their bullshit>i loss 300 million sales from the book that didn't sell shit!
>the last good Sony exclusive was released in 2017>Sony decided to release it close to other massively popular titles like RE7, Yakuza 0 and Tales of Berseria>sonyfags didn't bought it because of the other titles and let it to die exactly how Sony wanted it fucking hurts.
>>740072084it's a real commercial before AI got good enough to make it
>>740072084https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbpLC5RA7FU
>>740060724oh no, that's gonna put a real dent in the seven gorillion monthly psn revenue
>>740072175shut up weebcel
>>740060724It doesn't help most of their old ips trigger the cucked Sewer Rats with tiny hats
>>740071851imagine the smell
>>740072175>Sony decided to release it close to other massively popular titles like RE7, Yakuza 0 and Tales of Berseriayou dykelovers had three, count them, THREE chances to sell your game and you couldn'tstop coping
>>740067475I’d argue they’re shaken by the fact that a lot of the people in the industry in important roles are part of the alphabet soup group. Meanwhile, those of us who have remained are the types of people they despise so much they’d rather crash it with no survivors.
>>740072229Just try and make me, AAAslop goy.
>>740072380with Sony sabotaging its release every single time, no wonder it wasn't possible.
>>740063890niggies hate it and see it as a buck breaking attempt.
>>740072286
Nobody sabotages releases. People just want something else instead. It's a sign the game isn't wanted if the only way it could maybe sell is if there's zero competition.
Final Fantasy 16 went multiplatform and flopped Rockstar didn't release a single game FromSoft went multiplatform Hideo Kojima went multiplatform Naughty Dog went woke
>>740072165It's not bullshit>in X year I made 1000 chairs and sold 800>in Y year I made 500 chairs and sold 400>it cost me the same/more amount of recourses to produce 500 chairs in Y year than 1000 in X year because more chairs came out faulty and I had to throw them out
>marvel tokon>saving snoyniggers, do you know that it´ll be also on Xbox and PC day 1? Why even grasp at multiplats saving anything? I also highly doubt that it will top rivals in any form whatsoever.
>>740069448You have to be the only fella who remembers bleeding edge.
>>740060724No, see, it's because they put some of them on PC or something
>>740060724Absolute cinema.
>>740072667But there is a factor of people not knowing something exist due to a crowded marketing spaceYou can't sell a good product if no one knows it exist
>>740072740Tokon is PS and PC only it wont be on xbox or switch 2.
>>740072713FF16 took almost 2 years for PC port and even longer for Xbox lol. No one gives a fuck about games after such a long time.
>>740072745It's somehow the only game that is still playable though, maybe Ninja Theory forgot about turning off the servers
>>740060724Witnessing the end of the uncharted/last of us rehash era
Keep investing into woke slop leftoids. Surely eventually people will just support your slop right?
>>740060724I've read Sony is withdrawing from PC as well? If they're expecting me to buy a Playstation, I'm simply not going to buy their games instead.
>>740073204Microsoft has so much money, they just let games with no players run in the background and not worry about the 50k in electricity cost
>>740069448I've always loved the fat girl on the wheel design because i just imagined she lost her feet to diabetes lmao
>>740072667retard
>>740060724>The sales figures peaked around 2020Just like everyone elses did. Myself and others said constantly that the Covid bump was short term life support for the industry at best. Now that Covid is over, we're seeing the industry numbers drop back to reality and continue the downward trend they've been on prior to.
>>740060724>first party sales down the cliff>stop porting to PC?????
>>740073443Its because MS has own infrastructure called Azure so thats why. Reminder that majority of Playstation Network stuff runs on Microsofts Azure servers lol.
>>740073227It sucks because Uncharted 2 was a great game and if the industry had taken the right lessons from it, that wouldn't have been a bad thing at all.There's room in the industry for cinematic games. Just not Neil Cuckman's garbage (who was obviously being tard wrangled back then).
>>740060724Have they thought about making fun games, instead of depressing walking simulators that constantly preach to you about how you're a horrible person? That might help.
>stop making games>game sales go down
>>740069686Appropriate and well deserved for the worst character and biggest whore in the history of Marvel. It's honestly the perfect place to end up for a cunt who spent her entire life leading on multiple men, being a bitch and fag shaming Iceman.
>>740063018>nobody gave a shit about Gran Turismo 3+4, Jak and Daxter, Sly Raccoon, Ratchet & Clank, God of War etc. on PS2What kind of deranged cuck are you?
>>740060724Their own earning reports for years have said this. They’d have no profit at all if not for third party leeching off mtx and such.
>>740060821
>>740073590no, you don't understandit's because they're porting to PC that makes their games not sellyou'll see. the game will sell now that they're exclusive
>>740060724>30 million salesreminder this is the amount of transactions not the money from thoseat an average of $30 a pop that's about a billion just gone in a year lmao
>>740060817>This information has always been publicly available for years, one journalist pointed it out and now all the other urinalist rats are jumping on the bandwagon.That is how a lot of good journalism generally works. One guy puts together a bunch of information for various sources which then reveals a deeper understanding of the facts, which is then propagated worldwide by the newswire.
>>740060870HELP JEAN GRAY SAVE HERSELF
>>740073590Sony wants to kill PlayStation. They are getting their asses handed to them in all of the industries they actually care about. They used to be somewhat known for their consumer electronics and music systems (even if their shit wasn't really that good), but now everything they do except for the video game box they make is irrelevant and shit. Everyone else is advancing and Sony is still making video game boxes and the audience who still buys them vocally (online at least) oppose technological advancement and/or change outside of better graphics and lighting. So Sony is bottlenecked even by the community of people that make up the industry they have the strongest hold on including their biggest fans/fanatics, which is unfortunate for Sony.The "tinfoil hat" theory I have is Sony is actively trying to kill PlayStation and hopes that it will allow them to be able to shift focus and little and restructure themselves as, at least, a general consumer electronics company again. Instead of losing in every sector and investing everything into PlayStation (where game consoles already matured and its an aging market), maybe they secretly see PlayStation as a liability and want to be able to be somewhat of a force again.
>>740074714makes no sense bestie
>>740060769Fpbp>>740060724Get woke go brokeNo one wants to play jewish movie slop or miles Morales and his ugly wheelchair girlfriend preaching about blm
>>740074497>>740074692>>740072421I'm sure someone will bite to your falseflag.
>>740060724By only 30 million? That means that there are still suckers buying this slop.
>>740068015>>740071427That's cope
>>740068015>Nintendo appeals to kids, kids usually don't have such higher standards a 25yoThis lie needs to stop.
>>740068015How long are you faggots gonna keep spouting this nonsense?
>>740060870>IT'S MA'AM
>>740068015you write like a retarded kid.
>>740060724put your fucking games on PC maybe? idiots
>>740067078>Still sold like shit.Astrobot was massively astroturfed to cleans away the bad taste from Concord.There is also the matter of cultivating your consumer base. Sony spent years to attract mid-core gamers that only play sports&balls&wheels game or moviegames gamer dads. Astrobot is outside the scope.
>>740066213All they had to do was to code a good ps3 emulator and sell their games on steam for 10-15 euros eachRelease one every two weeks
>>740061307Season 2 starts today, btw.
sony's going big this nightim prepped snacks and cold ones
>>740075849They have been though, no? These numbers are bad DESPITE the fact that they put their games on PC.
How long until they crawl back to PC?
>>740060724>please buy our live service slop that sells skinsYeah, fuck no.
>>740075849Anon, this is with them doing that, which underperformed there so much they are leaving PC again.Except for their GaaS, that shit is staying on PC forever.
>>740076296You really think they're going to want to go back to a platform where people can see live graphs of how poorly their games actually perform when the numbers aren't fudged by packins and financial fuckery? Steam charts ruined the chance of you PC retards from EVER getting a piece of Sony Entertainment ever again.
>>740063613>GoW Sons of SpartaDamn I forgot that shit even existed. Didnt everyone pretty much pan it for feeling cheap and being mediocre?
>>740070283Politics
>>740071427>Know that most of the little Timmys are playing Fortnite and Roblox on PS>Don't make games to get them/their parents buying productI don't get it. Astro Bot doesn't count, that's Sony's equivalent of Funko Fusion.
I'm betting they'll gaslight people that that they never claimed they were stopping PC ports of singleplayer titles
>>740067617Nintendo has their retards caught in a bubble. They think those games are amazing.
>>740060724MAYBE YOU SHOULDNT BE LOCKING PEOPLE OUT OF CANCELING PAID MEMBERSHIP FOR NOT ACCEPTING NON SENSE TERMS TO TRY AND MAKE YOU ACCEPT YOUR GAMES BEING STOLEN
>>740076892What's the alternative then? Like everyone loves to say Nintendo makes bad games but then you walk outside of them and find a parking lot full of ball n gun or cinematic "experiences"
>>740076580Why would I want their movieslop or concord-likes? Days Gone was the only game of theirs I wanted and I already own it.
>>740073204>>740073443Running servers for 0-100 players is basically free.
The only reason I even played on a PS5 at all is for Foamstars and Mel TAnd the only reason I have one is from a Christmas giftIt just doesn't have anything else I care about
If Sony gives in and makes an agreement with Valve so you can play your Steam library with a PS5, will it make you buy one?
>>740077261They would never do that.
>>7400771372 sys admins, DNS managent, and let's say 2 of the cheapest VPSs you can buy is still like $12k a month. Maybe you can get that down to $4k if you farm out your sysadmin work to a 3rd world country like India or Poland.Still not cheap.
>Concord and Marathon cost money to playDid they not learn? Make it free.
>>740077312But if they did, what then?
>>740076581Snoys were treating it as the pinnacle of Metroidvanias for a week and then got memory holed
>>740077416Why would anyone want to play those even for free?
>own chuds>profits stolen
>>740077507to grief
>>740077704Fair, you are a proper gamer.
>>740067617Fallacy Nintendo can sell their fanbase cardboardSony cannot do that their fanbase is smarter still stupid but smarter
I can't wait. I'm gonna have a blast!
>>740060724It's almost like nobody likes Gen x & millennial woke slop from San Francisco
>>740077750Why do you keep trying to use Labo as a gotcha when this very site has a dedicated paper/cardboard craft board?
>>740077776It's Br€ak In, now.
>>740062325I hope this fag pressures kojima into releasing physint earlier.
>>740060724>release no games>cancel a bunch of vaporware live service games>close a bunch of studiosI wonder whyAll Sony had to do was RELEASE SOME FUCKING GAMES
>>740077337>2 sys admins for a cloud VMare you a consultant from california, fuck off retard
the premiere snoy studio releases zero games this generation except for a remake of a game everyone played and hated like 2 years prior
>>740060724Maybe stop making concords?
>>740060821And let the chuds win? Never!
surely another movie game will make a profit
>>740067617Even bad Nintendo games are still games unless Sony movies
>>740071851Only americans look like this
>>740067698This is what the chuds took from you!
>>740071851I promise not to sexualize her
>>740062139If Naughty Dog do make changes, it'll cost millions to redo everything and they'll be howled at by journos for giving in to the chuds. Bottom line, they fucked themselves. They never should have tried to force this atrocious character to begin with.Their best compromise might be to implement a conventional male MC as an alternative, something like V in CP77 or the siblings in AC Odyssey. Assuming that's possible, it could placate the majority of both sides.
>>740079374It's no good making promises that are easy to keep.
Where the fuck is Jak and Daxter?Sick of ND holding the IP hostage at this point. Give it to someone who wants to do something with it
>>740060724>Make F2P microtransactionslop in oversaturated market>Demand payment up frontLmao, what the fuck were they thinking? Did they think they could imitate Blizzard?
>>740060724What first party games?
>>740062325Sony's trying to bring back media mix projects like the ones that were all the rage in the late 00s/early 10s by turning their movie games into TV shows and actual movies.
>>740075849Already are, youtube was the first platform where you could play sony exclusives
>>740063584next guy NEXT GUY
>>740077137and yet sony couldn't keep concord or destruction all stars servers running
>>740060724>Sony abandonds PC market>sales collapseWell well well...
>>740080318Anon...
lmao I'm sure backing off from PC will help.
>>740076252nogaems.
>>740068015Anons argue with this but the new Tomodachi Life and Animal Crossing are proof that you can make a game that's objectively worse in almost every way to the previous ones and women's low standards will still make them sell like hotcakes.
Astrobot did pretty good. Why not go all in on that and make a dozen asset flips? Astrobot 2, Astrobot Party, Astrobot Ball and Gun, Astrobot Meet and Fuck
>>740080974Because it did good relative to its budget. It did not do amazingly well over all from a sales standpoint. Only 2 million copies sold so it didn’t have mass appeal for the system.
>>740080974Honestly, an astrobot kart racer would be kino.
>>740073590Porting probably costs more than the meager sales their shit could produce
>>740063584FY2020 was peak Covid. They'd have to look back to FY2018 to see what they were actually doing right.
>>740080974Sony hates Astrobot because they can’t shove DEI woke on it but they needed it to save face from the Concord fiasco
>>740077446I would if I werent already a PS player. I prefer PS as a platform to PC, but Steam outclasses Sony to a ridicolous degree.
>>740080974Astro bot only sold 2 millions copies, something that pragmata did in 16 days. The only reason why the game was a success was thanks to the low budget and journos jerking the fuck out of that game to the point of taking goty. The game itself doesn't have any cultural footprint and people already forget about it
>>740081415>I prefer PS as a platform to PCWhy
>>740080318This with PC market. Their games are just shit.
>>740081507Its streamlined and its' ease of of use. I come home from a long day's work, push 2 buttons and can play. No drivers, launchers or other bullshit.
>>740079964Who wants to make a game with that shit IP? Not only that, but continuing in the same structure as Jak 2/3 with the open world aspect would be insanely costly. No one is buying a J&D collect a thon either.
>>740081704Are you an oilman or what
>>740075849>put your fucking games on PC day-and-date instead of waiting 2+ years after they've come out when nobody cares about your games anymore and the marketing hype died down exponentially maybe? idiotsFixed.
>>740060724They fucked around with a scale 10 out of 10 and found out at a scale 10 out of 10.
>>740063613i forgot snores of sparta even came out kek
Noooo
>>740067513yeah sony of america trained the fanbase to only buy slop for the past 12 years but uh... whoops now they wont even buy that
>>740079964Anon, you dont want a Jak game written and directed by DruckmannYou really dont
>>740063641Anything past middle management is just overpaid bullshit.You got the people who do the work, then maybe a few relevant people for the paperstuff and then business owner.Wthile everyone doing actual work is busy, those fucks just pretend to be important and come up with retarded ideas and start bloating the company budget.It's like actual clown to clown communication.>t. sat around in meetings where people talked for 1 hours about which wine to serve without having any bottle around
>>740073089itll be on switch 2, why do you think theyre porting strive and have 2 unannounced released being developed for it? they're just laying the groundwork
>>740073861I had to check if this is real and not some racist meme of a BLM rioting simulator.Somehow, it is real.
>>740080974Last tim Sony mentioned AstroBots performance was 2.5million copies after over a year. Its a game that won GOTY lmao. Ghost of Yotei outsold it from pre-orders. Only worse selling Sony first party games of like last 10 years are Returnal and Saaros or perhaps Marathon I guess but thats it. Snoys do not buy anything thats not third person cinematic experience.
>>740073409Yeah you would think that they'd wait until they have a game to sell before announcing that lol
Surely the now-exclusive moviegames about trannies hating their dads will save Playstation from the billion-dollar losses they've suffered from so heavily investing in to the Concord-like genre.
Should Sony even bother making first party games? It seems like they just fucked themselves since the only thing the PS5 audience wants are sports games, call of duty, and fortnite. These guys don't play anything else.
>>740060724Their games are mid, woke, boring to play. I've lost all interest in their games. I just watch SOP for the cringe and memes.
mom of war will save snoy
>>740082779Ironically, they'd be making more money NOT making first party gamesNo one buys a PS5 for Sony's first party anyways
>>740082369why do they always include brown and black stripes?
>>740082974it's official, brown and blacks are gay as fuck according to LGBT committee
>>740060724I enjoy the PS5 but it really dropped the ball when it comes to exclusives, there are only a handful of exclusives I have. Even the PS4 which /v/ hates had plenty of exclusives that moved units. Hopefully they course correct with the PS6.
>>740082974because George Floyd died for our gay sins
>>740082594You're delusional. Sony funds development of that game and their XDev studio directly works on it too. ArcSys themselves didnt even made Switch ports of their games and outsourced them, thats why Switch version of Strive is months behind with patches and updates lol.
>>740082895she better shown tits and nipples for that and explicit lesbian sex qtes and playable kratos from classic god of war so no more cuck cooldowns and being able to jump spinning blades of chaos
>>740082974because they double dip the ESL by having gay BLACK people
>>740083240>tfw its possible they will show her having a lover before kratos so cuckold memes will become trueCant wait kek.
>>740082974the skidmarks of the left
>>740081414That's wrong though, new leaks have indicated that they love Astro Bot and have been shoving it hard in their Western studios' faces to fix their shit, they've also been doing a lot of banning of woke shit in their offices. There was a rumor not too long ago about Sony getting ready to gut down their Western studios into support and shift back to Japan. We're seeing it happen in real time. PS6 will be the death of the PS5 Jim Ryan era of PlayStation. If you're going to come up with bullshit, don't lie about it and demoralize. Woke is dead, it went off the rails and went after ((them)) so now ((they're)) killing what ((they)) created.
>>740079930They don't need a new protag, they just need some kind of disguise/dress up system with wigs. Hell, they could throw gamer a bone and let you dress up as Bazz.
>>740082594No, it won't. Going forward, like Nintendo, anything Sony publishes will be a PlayStation exclusive. Sony did this at the right time somehow given what's happening to the PC gaming market, kek.
>>740084292>Hell, they could throw gamer a bone and let you dress up as Bazz.Wasn't intergalactic literally set in the concordian timeline? I would unironically buy the game if I could Bazz it up.
>>740082779Only Team Asobi and Polyphony Digital Inc. should honestly make first-party games, for the rest, just run their XDev program. Their Western first-party needs to be gutted into support. If their smaller Western studios still exist, please put them on fun gameplay-focused and creative games again.
>>740067617>>740076892>>740077750explain Metroid Prime 4, Bayonetta Origins or TMS sales? >>740068015>>740071427holy cope.
>>740084515>I would unironically buy the game if I could Bazz it up.I don't think you know what unironic means, unless we have a genuine concord fan in here.Are you Korean by any chance?
>>740080383imagine how worse it will get now without the pc push lol
>>740077261Why would Sony do that when it's funny watching Valve chase everyone away with their high hardware prices? Man, Gabe dying is going to kill that company.
>>740076296They won't, PC gaming is getting a change that will reduce how many people will actually play games on it in the future.
>>740067617>Predecessors create a strong foundation>Successors profit off of goodwill and fanaticism
>>740061045I don't even understand why these live service games should be so expensive to make. It's just instanced multiplayer gaming, no different from cs:go right?! how is this hard? they have less story and production value than normal games that need tons of dialogues, cinematics, quests etc.
>>740084292They really do need at least an alternative protagonist. There's a very limited appetite for Action Woman games, and even more so for Action Unattractive Woman and Action They/ Them. People simply do not buy these games, regardless of identity or sociopolitical stance. An ugly bald woman (with a cunty attitide to boot) costs you multitudes in potential sales. It simply is what it is.
>>740084641>ExplainNot woman games, guys actually have standards.
>>740076296with how costly chips are now and how fucked up their next machine is, I'd say less than a year.
>>740085257ND is in too deep to be adding protags now. Cosmetics is the path of least resistance. A simple bobcut could make the protag look more Asian/feminine in an instant, and ND could balance it out with some Black hair styles for muh representation woke points to stiffle criticism from journos. The actress is a Black/Asian Hapa mystery meat like The Rock, so they can chameleon in Black or Asian depending on hairstyle. Honestly, everyone wins if ND just adds wigs.
>>740085308that explain why sony games are flopping that hard.
the only decent first party sony has ever had was Japan Studio and everyone from there has been shot into the sun so they never come back and besmirch sony's reputation by making good games
>>740082974Apparently it''s some bullshit flag that I have neither the time or care to look up.
>>740084679>Are you Korean by any chance?My gf is Korean if that counts.
>>740085737Sony could always hire the new studio made up of ex-japan studio devsI wonder if Sony would respect them more now that they would be 3rd party
>>740085843Probably, Sony is run by Japs again.
>>740085843>Sony could always hire the new studio made up of ex-japan studio devsnot possible anymore since they're too occupied working at Nintendo or their own studios.also, Asobi is Sony japanese studio now so they won't ever start a new one from zero.
>>740061686i respect him not even trying to present himself as anything more than a slob doing PR for the game
>>740086818>Interviewing Saros’s actor>Background is full of Nintendo and Halo toysHuh?
>close japan studio>replace it with dogshit like horizon forbidden westWhat could go wrong?
