What did we do wrong to get trapped in this 21st century loop of getting the same games sold to us over and over again as remasters and rereleases for steadily increasing prices?Was our sin so great that our punishment is the death of mainstream creativity? Watching what we love get destroyed over and over again decade after decade?
>>740090952Gaming has never been better. You're just a chud.
>>740090952You get endless remakes and remasters because they're what you want and you can't stop buying them. You reject the present while being unwilling to let the past go. Finding that in any Devil May Cry thread I'm the only anon who wants DMC6 while everyone else wants a remake of 1 (or even fucking DMC2 of all games) opened my eyes
>54 years later>still the goat
>>740091616>people want DMC2We're too far gone
>>740092129How did someone fresh out of their teens make such kino. Shame the original ending is way too abrupt.
We've hit the cost to practicality wall. Production values should've stopped developing in 2005, that way games don't take a fucking decade to make, don't take up triple digit GBs in space, and don't cost hundreds of millions.
>>740091616its seems like this at a glance but when I think about it every remake that has shown up recently usually spits in the face of original fans with varying degrees. I think the people clamoring for remakes are new fans who want to be a part of "the culture" but refuse to play the original.
>>740090952This shit was so ass
>>740092575I played the original MediEvil in the late 90s and still loved the PS4 remake. Granted, I think the devs paid close attention to what not to do through Resurrection.
>>740091616I feel this way about Fatal Frame. The remake of 2 was actually better than I expected it to be, it actually mixed the camera mechanics up enough to give me hope that a genuinely new game would have some inspiration put into it. For fuck's sake though, the last original game came out back in 2014, it's time for a new one already.
>>740092575>its seems like this at a glanceIt's not just a glance; it's how it is. >but when I think about it every remake that has shown up recently usually spits in the face of original fans with varying degreesAnd still they sold billions and people keep asking for more, proving my point.
>>740090952>What did we do wrongWe're not doing anything....Which is exactly the problem.
>>740090952I have never played a single remake/remaster other than DS1 and RE1.
>>740093038There won't be a new game; the 2 remake was one of the biggest commercial failures of 2026>No sales numbers anywhere on any console besides a lonely third place for the ps5 version in France and Japan, only to disappear from the ranks by the next week >A peak of 3k players on Steam KT will keep milking Nioh because nothing else sells.
>>740092647>...compared to the OVAsRushed ending aside, Crybaby was still good
>>740093336Fatal Frame was never a huge seller past the first game. If that was a seriously considered factor then it would've died back in 2006. Hell, had Nintendo not stepped in it very well might have. I'm almost certain either Shibata or Kikuchi have some dirt on someone at KT because I don't know how else the series keeps getting greenlit. That said, they did say the Atelier tier sales of the 4/5 remasters were good at the time so who knows? Maybe it still has a sane budget after all this time.
>>740090952why is crybaby ending so fucking shit?
>>740090952Capitalism lol
Find another hobby.
>>740094227>Fatal Frame was never a huge seller past the first game2004's videogame budgets =/= 2026 videogame budgets. 2012's videogame budgets =/= 2026 videogame budgets A game can't be profitable with a few thousand copies sold. >the Atelier tier sales of the 4/5 remasters were good at the timeBecause those were games built from the ground up; they took a game already made and simply ported it so even scarce sales can give you a profit. Why are people so unwilling to accept that their games bombed and will never get new ones?
>>740094538*kino
>>740094538Money or something. The quality of the show fell off of a cliff by episode 5. It feels like all the effort went into *that* chapter and even then the Amon OVA gave it much more impactWhat Crybaby did to Zenon is a fucking crime. Crybaby objectively had the best Satan vs Akira fight, even compared to tje manga, though
>>740095056I still don't understand why no one does this. If the hobby becomes worthless then you simply move to another one. There's an entire universe out there.
>>740090952>>740092129I suddenly realize these two were the inspiration for Griffith and Guts.
>>740091258Please elaborate?
>>740096576You're one slow SOB
>>7400909521) All ideas datamined2) Normies fully infiltrating the hobby and letting AAA dictate what types of games should be made3) Indies rising to market power with 0 budget streamslop killing the necessity for mid budget productions or actual good games4) Millennials growing up to somehow have the worst tastes imaginable despite having grown up in the best gaming era imaginable who enable the status quo5) Zoomers who think ripping off millennial culture and selling it is something to aspire to6) Left wing industry hijack running out anybody who doesn't play by their rules7) Game discourse turning tribalistic and everyone just parroting what everyone else says, dictated by people of influence and not actually thinking for themselves8) Games as an identity service, people just watch them on YouTube and say they like them to fit inI can probably keep going forever but there are many bad things happening at the same time. Ironically for all the shit Minecraft, Roblox, and Fortnite get they're the purest expressions of what is appropriate for the new generations. People seem to have forgotten this is a hobby meant for 10 year olds
>>740090952A) Support indie devs. I bet you never touched Cultist Simulator or Dead Estate or Sunderfolk.B) Try series/genres you've never tried before. I was injured recently and I have a lot of free time, so I decided to try the Resident Evil franchise despite not touching it ever before and it's pretty fun. Not 100% my cup of tea but whatever.C) Make your own. Solo dev has always been a thing and now with coding being done competently enough by AI, there's no excuse for you to not make the game you always wanted to make.
>>740095615I have other hobbies and still want video games to get better and bring back originality rather than everything being derivative of the 90s-00s golden era. It feel dystopian for lack of a better word
>>740098559I'm OP
>>740098863Well, okay. I'm glad you're a man of taste as well. Now try Cultist Simulator.
>need MONEY to (pay people to) make games>only people with money are INVESTORS>investors want guaranteed returns>guaranteed returns means safe ideas that sold beforesimple 'as
>>7400985592 of the 3 suggestions have roguelike in the top tags, just pointing that out
>>740090952you didnt rape kids or generate revenue for jesus the child raping niglet fuck child rapists and jebus
>>740099663To be fair, roguelikes in and of themselves isn't a problem--it is a problem when every game is a roguelike or autoclicker slop. Honestly, 2024-2026 was great for indies
>>740099663And? 5D Chess with Multiversal Time TravelAge of Wonders 4Bellagarth's QuestBook of HoursHeroes of Might and Magic Olden EraPeakResident Evil 2Rift of the NecroDancerRunehavenSecret Agent Wizard BoyShadowstoneStellarisTabletop SimulatorTerraforming MarsLike that's just the shit that's installed on my comp right now.
>>740090952>is the death of mainstream creativity?We let idiots in our hobby while kicking out the old, creative dudes.
>>740102818>Necrodancer and AoWMein Nigger
>>740102494>it is a problem when every game is a roguelike or autoclicker slopThat was the point that I was trying to make. It's also that it doesn't exist in a vacuum, the entire industry rearranges itself based on the people who keep buying them
>>740090952sex with miki
>>740102818>And?It's one of those unsightly things, like manchildren playing the switch. Nothing looks uglier than a gaming industry that holds up these lazy slot machines as the ideal to strive to. If someone can't understand why wearing diapers to a casino is a bad look you can't really explain it much further
>>740105312>penetration
>>740096576Also JoJo and DioAlso Kenshiro and ShinTo some extent Naruto and Sasuke
>>740105553That's a retarded analogy. You're not losing anything when you're playing a roguelike other than time, but you're losing time whenever you're playing ANY video game.
>>740091258not even if i was a turboleftist who loved seeing the same 3 psyop narratives played out (pass-the-torch-to-the-brown, keep-working-goy-disguised-as-dad-simulator, and female-power-fantasy-reskin) would i enjoy what has become of modern media
>>740108187you also aren't losing anything other than time sitting around LARPing as a furfag, diaperfag, rougelike enjoyer, or other degenerate shit, but people have a right to judge you for it
>>740102818im really not trying to be the guy who just responds "they're all shit" but quite literally all of those games are not fun, re2 remake was okay but that game is from 1998, almost 30 years now...>>740098559>A) Support indie devs. I bet you never touched Cultist Simulator or Dead Estate or Sunderfolk.cultist simulator was an instant regret purchase, meaning the other 2 are likely just as bad>B) Try series/genres you've never tried before. I was injured recently and I have a lot of free time, so I decided to try the Resident Evil franchise despite not touching it ever before and it's pretty fun. Not 100% my cup of tea but whatever.you played a remake of an old game designed for, quite literally, newcomers who never played the original, if you dont understand why this kinda defeats your point i dont know what else to say>C) Make your own. Solo dev has always been a thing and now with coding being done competently enough by AI, there's no excuse for you to not make the game you always wanted to make.Ah yes that's what I wanted to do, MAKE a video game instead of play one. I also guess if im not enjoying modern film or literature i should just redirect my entire career and make films and write books, yes truly insightful thank you!
>>740109001you lost, tranny>>740110278>cultist sim>regretWell, yeah I mean I guess if you're double-digit IQ there's only so many different jangling keys that'll distract you.
>>740108187You're losing your dignity if you sit there all day pulling a slot machine lever
>>740111529>im smart because i played this video gameuh huh....
>>740112613Correct. Puzzle solving is correlated with higher IQs.
>>740112567You're losing your dignity if you sit there all day playing anything at all.
>>740116053Not really, you can still play games that respect the player
>>740092129It was just okay. I can see how it was influential at the time but it doesn't hold up.
>>740090952Remakes are safe and nostalgia is easy to exploit.
>>740102818t.
>>740090952YOUR SIN IS NOT FIGHTING BACK AGAINST OPPRESSIONYOU FUCKING BITCHESFIGHT BACK NIGGA TAKE UP ARMS BITCH.ALLOWING THE DEVIL TO TORTURE YOU IS A FAR MORE GRAVE SIN THAN ANY OTHER.
>>740118063Manga pages that scream because of the expressive power they have are not "ok", they are masterpieces
>>740095056>>740095615This phenomenon has happened to most hobbies that aren't something like wood working though.
>>740120397>Manga pages that scream because of the expressive power they have
>>740121058
>>740118063May I interest you in Devilman REMAKEā¢ then? Featuring every paid shill on the planet telling you it's the best thing ever and far surpasses the original in every metric Buy Product Now
>>740121794I read Devilman Lady already.
I wanna suck Ryo Asuka's little fallen angel penis
>>740090952>"What did we do wrong to get trapped in this 21st century loop of getting the same games sold to us over and over again as remasters and rereleases for steadily increasing prices?"buying Skyrim and RE4 again every time they're ported to a new system
>>740090952Daily reminder to be miserable and cynical and depressed and lamenting the downfall of western civilization
>>740124610>looks at the fix everything button
>>740090952Jews.
>>740092647Devilman Crybaby is one of the very few animes of the past decade that I would consider incredibly good.
>>740121794No one says that about Crybaby--pretty sure Demon Bird is widely considered some of the best Devilman media. I wish the original Devilman would've gotten a Devilman vs. Cyborg 009 style interpretation. The Jinmen fight was a straight cocktease
>>740106159Tetsuo and Kaneda to an extent, yes?
>>740096576an absolutely frightening amount of characters can be traced back to ryo
>>740121452Maybe I'm too old for these whippersnapper memes>>740121678>that last panelPure fucking kino
>>740125436It's carried by a legendary story, but I can see why it's polarizing. It needed at least 20 episodes.
>>740126046To add: compare the Silene arc in Crybaby to the entire second half of Demon Bird. It was night and day interms of quality vs. "Devilman vs. Horny Bird Lady with Gamma turned ALL the way down"https://youtu.be/du_MESpFVXM?si=hkwvmnf8A4sS2Usq
>>740125890>Maybe I'm too old for these whippersnapper memesIt's a bunch of redraws. I have a whole folder of them.
He's never getting a good adaptation is he?
>>740124610Episode 7-8 fucked me up completely
>>740127186Me too, i knew the manga already but Makimura family got a lot more screen time in Crybaby, it was devastating
This is how Berserk will end too btw
>>740128286In 2040 maybe. Almost 6 months of watching Guts stare at a ceiling
>>740096883ntainfinite fine tuned to your taste of you favorite genre indies cheap as fuck and anything you can emulate for free AND internet to play with friends or just talk shit about vidya semi-related stuff
>>740130801Those indies are often derivative in and of themselves. We get occasional fantastic original indies like Noita and Mewgenics, but let's not act like 80% of the industry isn't clones and that the golden age isn't long gone. Civilization in general is losing its imagination, wonder, and willingness to say fuck it and take a risk
>>740090952Letting activists into the hobby
>>740130801Frank Zappa made a strong statement that parallels everything wrong with the video game industry today. Just like experimental music, experimental video games never went away, but they're far from the norm
>>740096576it's crazy to think that Devilman is to seinen manga what Starship Troopers is to military sci-fi, right down to both books not having accurate adaptations that adapt them to their entiretyinfluential masterpieces without a proper voice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAWczh2fxPkStill sad/mad we couldnt get a 3rd OVA. I can't imagine how good the conclusion would've been.The war in the 2018 was neat though>THIS IS NOT AN ACT OF INSURGENCY
>>740130801You can't count emulation of old games as a reflection of gaming today, that has been possible for decades already>>740124610Not sure if this is sarcastic but it's much simpler than that, the average consumer is throwing their money at dogshit which means more dogshit is produced
