You say you dislike used goods in crpgs because they're more likely to be unfaithful, but what if they're not?
>>740104484>You say you dislike used goods in crpgs because they're more likely to be unfaithfulNo one says this. I (and presumably everyone else) dislike used goods in crpgs because they've had other men's penises inside of them.
>>740104705>No one says thisAll the threads I've browsed tell me otherwise
Karlach is the better romance and Minty is hotter.Frog is worst girl. She's a fucking frog.
>>740104808Frogfags are also the most insufferable shitposters
I just think everyone in BG3 is too horny besides Shadowheart, which makes her stand out as the "girlfriend" option. It would be cute if Laezel had no idea how to show affection or reciprocate love due to her focus on fighting and warfare, but instead she's super horny and basically demands to fuck you.
>>740104484>but what if they're not?Then I'll just make up something up and pretend they cuckold me so I can shitpost here
>>740104484Thats a tranny
>>740105005it's just a single schizo
>>740104808>buhh karlach is redditso is every fucking companion in the game but Karlach is a tall demon girl you can fuck so that counteracts that
shadowheart should be excessively pregnant with swollen feet
You are an Indian hired to create fake interest in this game and your samefagging is beyond obvious.
>>740109039What? Wrong reply?
>>740109039every time she starts speaking her attractiveness melts away
>>740104484>in crpgsanywhere really>but what if they're not?do you not understand how statistical relevance works? >most of these flowers are red>ok but there's a blue one here
>>740112839>do you not understand how statistical relevance works?They're fictional characters, not real
here comes the janny-sanctioned tencent marketing thread of the day
>>740104484pic unrelated?
>>740109743we were robbed of this when WOC had a melty and kicked larian out
>>740112046nah I like when she calls me soldier
>>740104484Honestly if a woman has a past, but is clearly more involved in your relationship than her past I don't see the problem. Really the issue comes from how poorly these kind of women can confront their past. Abigail was a hooker but she showed dedication to John where it counted.
>>740109039I never got this. Her voice is fine. It's just an Aussie chick what is wrong with it?
>>740114084>Aussie
>>740114390I don't know my commonwealth accents sorry. It sounds Australian to me.
>>740104705almost everybody says this because they need to cope and mask their insecurity behind some form of "logical thinking"
>>740115653this, just look at the fags that cry about pic related just because she had one (1) boyfriend
I think shadowheart is really cute so I’d still marry her. Only because she’s cute though.
>>740117775Minty is cuter
>>740117867She looks like Tom Holland
>>740117867
>>740104484>Says this>Post the one romance option that´s open to be shared like the camp´s bicycle>>740104808Minthara is best girl. Karlach starts off hot but turns clingy and needy real fast. She may be initially appealing to men instinct to help a damsel in distress but by the end of the day is mostly about pity and friendship than romantic love. As for the frog... the frog is a religious fanatic and you have to try real hard to undo the brainwash and convince her that not being a religious fanatic is a good thing but imagine what she can do with a frog tongue. Some may argue she is also the only option that allows starting a family but the kid is not the MC kid so i don´t see how that could appeal to anyone.
>>740117867She's basically incomplete content shoved into the game and despite that IS STILL objectively better than the other options.
>>740117867Literally a man
>>740119115I get that being willing to be shared is itself a disgusting prospect but she doesn't ever cheat, it's only with your consentthat said her character would only improve if she wasn't forced into being attracted to her writer's self-insert
>>740104484I prefer it to to be ambiguous. Which seems like common sense and makes either party happy but for some reason no one does it. I don't want to hear her talk about what else she's fucked mostly because it's crass and irrelevant. Past marriage is fine if important to the character. But I also don't want her acting like some spastic teenager in love for the first time and acting like she doesn't know what a cock is. Both are signs of a sexually dysfunctional mind.
>>740104484You posted a girl who is literally willing to cuck you bro
>>740119115The only time sharing in any capacity ever comes up is when you've already initiated a incestuous bisexual orgy and specifically invited her to be a part of it, so complaining about that seems retarded.
>>740104705/thread
>>740113116The whole game isn't real you stupid fuck
>>740104705Can it not be both?
>>740120615Your "statistical relevance" doesn't mean anything because they're fictional characters, either they will cheat on you or they will not, that's up to the writer, regardless of their virginity status
>>740104484Every character would be a better romance if they were genderswapped
>>740120859I'm sure you totally wouldn't throw a fit over Gale having an ex lesbian goddess
>>740120712And if the writer never explicitly states whether their fictional character will cheat on their partner, like in pretty much every instance ever?
>>740121142Then you come to /v/ to complain about how you're totally going to get cucked
>>740121283Nice non-argument. If somebody asked you "do you think Bowser would try and kidnap Peach if he saw her walking around?" your answer would be "well it depends what the writers decide". You're not wrong, you're just completely incapable of understanding how characterisation works, you autistic fuck.
>>740121630>you're just completely incapable of understanding how characterisation worksSo you are you and half this board making cuck fantasies about characters that are obviously not going to do that just because they're not virgins
>>740121808I'm a different anon, I just came to point out how retarded your "they're not real" logic is. You haven't given me any argument except "n-no you". Do you have one or are you just here to seethe because anons think Shadowheart is a whore?
>>740104484I dislike all romance in video games.
>>740121140Nah? Who would? Girls don't count.
>>740121808>>740122179Also from what I remember, Shadowheart literally has a line where she mentions thinking about fucking one of the other party members. If that isn't a sign that she, you know, is thinking about fucking someone else, I don't know what is.
>>740121140Wyllemina would be pretty cute
>>740120859Astaria would be an easy win for me
>>740120010>>740120510Stupid fucking lying faggots she flirts with Halsin no matter what YOU LYING CUNTS!https://youtu.be/L4d3kEhyLo0
>>740123084Anon, you're quoting the incestuous bisexual orgy you started and invited her too. You control the buttons you press.
>>740123084>I wouldn't pretend the thought hasn't crossed my mind once or twice... or more than thatBruh imagine choosing Shart as a romance option. She unironically fantasizes about bears.
>>740123240Anon can you not read, she straight up says she has been thinking about it previously.
>>740123240Watch the fucking video you cowardly fucking bitch. Of course you won't address that point because it btfo your faggot lies you stupid cunt. Fuck you faggot.
uh oh melty
>>740123295It's okay guys her past doesn't matter. She's changed now.
>>740123379>>740123405>Choose cuck options>Get treated like a cuckOoh, you're a nasty boy aren't you?
>>740123084Not in my world, cuck.
>>740123516interestingly she still doesn't actually cuck you even if you choose to be a cuck, you can just say no and that's the end of it
>>740123516THAT BANTER HAPPENS EVEN OF YOU DON'T CHOOSE ANY HALSIN OPTIONS YOU LYING FUCKING CUNT! WATCH THE FUCKING VIDEO! ADDRESS THE ACTUAL FUCKING POINT YOU FUCKING COWARDLY LITTLE SHIT!https://youtu.be/L4d3kEhyLo0
>>740123516>going to a brothel is somehow what made her fantasize about Halsin several weeks earlierOoh, you're working hard on those mental gymnastics aren't you?
>>740123674So now you're just fucking lying yiu stupid fucking cunt. You insisted UHHH IT ONLY HAPPENS IF YOU CHOOSE THE OPTION but now you're backtracking like the little bitch you are. Retarded fucking cocksucker.
>>740105483>I just think everyone in BG3 is too horny besides ShadowheartWyll isn't horny either, but he's far too much of a zesty nigga
>>740104705You both said the same thing.
>>740123674It's the same character, in the same fictional world.
>>740123914Wyll agreed with pretty much every decision I made. That's ma nigga right there
>>740123805Calm down bro I'm pretty sure it's a tranny or some other LGBTQ abomination. It's not worth getting worked up for.
>>740124324True
>>740123862You're the kind of guy who brings your signifigant other into brothels for orgies, you're probably the kind of guy whose gf fantasizes about other guys. Of course most people never had this problem.>>740123805>SHE CALLED HIM A POOL FLOATY SHE WANTS TO FUCK HIMYou're very sexually threatened by the bear, huh?
>>740124645>cuck cuck cuck cuckUh-huh, sure thing bud, whatever floats your boat. Still not explaining how Shadowheart visiting a brothel sends thoughts of Halsin back in time into her brain lmao
>>740124645>>SHE CALLED HIM A POOL FLOATY SHE WANTS TO FUCK HIM>You're very sexually threatened by the bear, huh?Disingenuous faggot. She flirts with him even if you don't choose orgy options or whatever the fuck your retarded cope was. You're wrong. You got blown the fuck out. Exposed as a liar. At least be a fucking man and admit it instead of acting like a little bitch.
>>740124903My post didn't say "cuck" once, though.
>>740104705It's a set of pixels on a screen
>>740125249>you're probably the kind of guy whose gf fantasizes about other guysThat is literally a description of a cuck, you're dumb lol
>>740125429Meant for >>740125138
Tell me what your favorite romance option in rpgs is and I'll tell you if you're a cuck or not
>>740125429I mean, if you got that dialogue, yeah, you're a cuck. What's the confusion here? That's your whole point too, isn't it? She's a bad romantic partner because she cucks you in that scene. But you'd only ever get that scene if you purposefully chose cuck options
>>740125483Ashley in Mass Effect. I know, I know, I am based.
>>740104484They're not real people OP.
>>740125529>But you'd only ever get that scene if you purposefully chose cuck optionsStupid FUCKING coward! Lying little shit! Stop ignoring this just because it btfo your entire retarded cope you lying cocksucker! https://youtu.be/L4d3kEhyLo0
>>740125529>What's the confusion hereThat you can't follow a coherent point for more than 5 seconds. You STILL haven't explained how going to a brothel magically makes Shadowheart fantasize about Halsin BEFORE she goes to the brothel. You asked me where in your post you mentioned cucking, I showed you, and somehow your brain immediately moved onto something else. Incredible. How can people be this stupid?
>>740125649That's a single line (You) chose to interpret as flirtation. That's not cuckoldry.
>>740125760Anon, if you're the kind of player who brings their gf into a brothel for an orgy, the game assumes you're a cuck and gives Shadowheart the respective dialogue for that kind of character. She naturally never says anything like that if you're in a monogamous relationship. If my Shadowheart is evil and wants to serve Shar and your Shadowheart is good and worships Selune that doesn't mean I can say Shadowheart is 100% evil and only ever wants to worship Shar when that's entirely due to the choices I, the player, made.
>>740125578Ashley is cringe but yeah you're not a cuck
>>740125892>the game assumes you're a cuck and gives Shadowheart the respective dialogue for that kind of characterIsn't it curious how the other girls all say no and get mad at you?
>>740125892>that's entirely due to the choices I, the player, made.what choice in-game can you make to make her not dream of orgies with halsin?
>>740125762>That's a single line (You) chose to interpret as flirtation.Absolutely disingenuous. You're so full of shit you little bitch. You're a fucking pussy for that one. Can't even act like a fucking man and admit when you're wrong. You're a bitch through and through.
>>740104484It's not the fact of it, it's the way women carry themselves. If they never talk about it and don't cheat, the man won't have anything to complain about. Problem is women are trained to think shame is bad, so they advertise all their flaws upfront and wonder why no one wants them.
>>740125953Shadowheart is very much into giving the player whatever they want. That's very clearly expressed by how she is also one of the only characters not bothered by you sleeping with Mizora.>>740125967The same choices that don't lead you into inviting her into a bisexual orgy that then prompts the respective dialogue? Your argument is like me saying "My Shadowheart said she was happy to be a Dark Justiciar. That means even Selune Shadowheart would be happy with that option." even though it's obvious the Shadowheart in a playthrough where a character encourages them to turn to Selune obviously has very different ideas and ambitions than one pushed towards Shar worship. In the same way a "vanilla" Shadowheart gives no indication about having any dreams about Halsin, that would only occur in a playthrough in which the player is the kind of person who takes her into an orgy.
>>740125892Anon, her moral alignment can change because the game events play out differently, because of the player's actions. That makes sense. But you're suggesting that you visiting the brothel is what makes her fantasize about Halsin weeks earlier, that doesn't make any sense.I'm genuinely curious to hear your answer to this. If you encounter a character in a shady alley who robs you if you trust them in one playthrough and then in the next playthrough you just kill them before speaking, is that character still someone who would have robbed you in the second playthrough?
>>740126196You're the one upset on the internet over hypothetical love triangles involving made up characters. I don't believe you're any authority to call anyone manly or not.
>>740126345>The same choices that don't lead you into inviting her into a bisexual orgy that then prompts the respective dialogue? Your argument is like me saying "My Shadowheart said she was happy to be a Dark Justiciar.you have direct input as the player to push her towards selune or her justiciar path, you do NOT have ANY input on whether or not she's polyamrous and into orgies and threesomes and flirting with halsin. In no ones game does she not have this aspect of her character, that is how the writer wrote her.
>>740126345>Your argument is like me saying "My Shadowheart said she was happy to be a Dark Justiciar. That means even Selune Shadowheart would be happy with that optionNTA but I don't think there is anything you can do that encourages her to fantasize about Halsin before you go into the brothel. Your argument is bullshit.
>>740126421So now you're backtracking again and trying to change the topic to IT'S LE NOT REAL huh? Cowardly faggot bitch that you are. You can't even admit she flirts with him when I provided proof of my claims. You just bitch out and pretend it isn't flirting, since you got caught as the lying faggof you are. You insisted all her flirting was player choice but the second you're proven wrong you act like the most weaselly little cunt on /v/. You're a fucking coward. You're a fucking pussy. You're a fucking loser.
>>740123494She's shown to be a cleric of Sune there so it's entirely feasible that she would be accepted as a faithful follower.
>>740126539Not that anon, but by the very virtue of you trying to have a bisexual orgy your ask your girlfriend to join is pretty much encouraging the character to be reactive to your cuckitude. Also, if your jimmies are this rustled by a fictional character in a video game then you should probably address your underlying problems.
>>740126412>But you're suggesting that you visiting the brothel is what makes her fantasize about Halsin weeks earlier, that doesn't make any sense.Yes. That's perfectly logical train of thought.>If you encounter a character in a shady alley who robs you if you trust them in one playthrough and then in the next playthrough you just kill them before speaking, is that character still someone who would have robbed you in the second playthrough?If the videogame is designed that way. Yes it's perfectly possible for that character to change based on the manner in which the player chooses to interact with them. You could choose to trust that person and it turns out to be a robber or the game could be written in a way in which you do not trust that person and it turns out they were telling the truth.
>>740126750>Yes. That's perfectly logical train of thought.>it's perfectly logical for events in the present to change thoughts had in the pastno? no it is not
>>740126858These coping faggots stubbornly insist it's only through player action when it's been demonstrated several times that isn't true. They're lying little shits.
>>740126523Shadowheart never expressed any interest in Polyamory or orgies in playthroughs in which I did not encourage her towards those options. Which I didn't as those options didn't interest me. >>740126617That isn't backtracking. None of this was ever real and I never made an argument it was. We were discussing the nature of the character in a videogame and you chose to get upset over the discussion. It's hardly my problem how you feel about me so I'm unsure why you feel the need to express your aggravation towards someone you obviously don't respect either.
>>740126750>That's perfectly logical train of thoughtNo it isn't. You're suggesting something you do in the present influences events in the past. Tell me you're not this retarded.>You could choose to trust that person and it turns out to be a robber or the game could be written in a way in which you do not trust that person and it turns out they were telling the truth.I can't think of any games that work this way, off the top of my head. But in any case Baldur's Gate is not one of them. Characters like Shadowheart are given a base personality that is consistent every time you encounter them for the first time.
>>740127029her preference for flings is established in act 1 without any player input
>>740124645Lmao do you also think being invited in for hot coffee means they want to drink coffee with you? Tell me you're a virgin without telling me you're a virgin.
>>740127204Now post the one where she says she's taken when someone tries to fuck her (I think it was Astarion)
>>740127029Stop changing the topic you disingenuous little shit. You insisted she only flirts with Halsin through player input. I proved you wrong. You're fucking wrong and you're fucking retarded. The fact you disingenuously claim it's not reaaaallllyyyy flirting also means you're a fucking bitch and a sore loser. Faggot.
>>740126713Read the thread before replying
>>740127269https://bg3.wiki/wiki/Shadowheart/Banterhere's the full list actually, you can fetch it for me if your thoughts are accurateit also includes her flirting with karlach
>>740126858Anon, these are videogame characters. They do not have thoughts in the past. They are written to react to your input as the player. The fact they said they felt something in the past doesn't make it universally true. The Dark Urge for example has background flavoring based on the class chosen by the player. If you chose a Paladin, you are given the explanation that you initially resisted the Urge until you slaughtered your Holy Order and went off the deep end. That isn't a real event in the past, it is the game REACTING to your choices by enforcing them with retroactive character development. I don't understand how this escapes you.
>>740127356I did anon. You just don't realize you're not very good at communicating like a rational adult, and instead are getting super emotional over a fictional character with no inner life. You don't want to listen to anyone because you're just insecure and desperate for validation and attention.
>>740127450>it is the game REACTING to your choices by enforcing them with retroactive character developmentwhy doesn't the game react accordingly when i ask minthara or lae'zel to do brothel orgy?
>>740127571Or Karlach. Or basically any woman other than Shadowheart LOL.
>>740127553No you didn't, or you weren't smart enough to follow it. Your reply was about how going to the brothel influenced her thoughts whereas, as everyone else already understood, her thoughts were occurring before you visited the brothel.
>>740127315>You insisted she only flirts with Halsin through player input.I never said that specifically, as I never addressed the video you posted for that specific reason, but rather the orgy dialogue posted. But that flirtation line does only occur with Halsin in your party, which is a choice the player has to make, so it is technically true.
>>740127450>They are written to react to your input as the player.Yet there's the flirting about clinging to him in the water that isn't player prompted at all, you disingenuous brainlet.
>>740127754>I never said that specificallyHoly fucking shit you lying cowardly fuck. You are so full of shit.
>>740127571Because their characters are written to react differently. Shadowheart is written to generally be more amicable to whatever the player wants her to do in most cases.
>>740104484All the best CRPG waifus are used goods. Pic related, my favorite one.
>>740127754>But that flirtation line does only occur with Halsin in your party, which is a choice the player has to make, so it is technically true.Unbelievable. So taking your retarded logic to the extreme, Shadowheart only fucks Halsin if you boot up the game, and booting up the game is technically a choice the player makes. So by booting up the game at all it's the player's fault. You're so fucking retarded.
>>740127450If you're just gonna do the "it's just a game" argument. This is all a waste of time. Fictional characters are given a characterization. Of course, they're not real but in order to suspend your disbelief you have to, to some extent, act as if they are and have a consistent personality. If you're going to wilfully ignore parts of a characters personality because you yourself didn't happen to observe them in a playthrough, you might as well just choose to ignore any parts of them that you don't like, and make them into whatever character you want. You CAN do that. It's just that most non-autistic people choose not to do that. Instead you treat the character the way the writer has written them.
>>740127870>Because their characters are written to react differently.Soooo Shadowheart is written to be more of a whore?
>>740127975No, that's a rather obvious strawman that goes well beyond the example given. I never argued Shadowheart doesn't flirt with anyone else. You've mostly been hitching your fixation to that particular line about swimming together to another discussion about the orgy scene. The swimming dialogue could be flirtatious, it could be a joke, it could be a flirtatious joke.>>740127985Anon, I don't believe saying BG3 is a game is an argument. We should be able to agree that's a fundamental fact. I am not willfully ignoring fundamental aspects of the characters writing. You are extrapolating an aspect of the character that is only developed by making a very specific string of choices and insisting it retroactively applies to all iterations of the character even though no such indication exists.By your logic, Shadowheat could be dead on that beach in Act 1 and still be dreaming of bear cock.
>>740128304If (You) wanted her to be. Yes.
>>740128315>No, that's a rather obvious strawman that goes well beyond the example given.No, it isn't. It's your retarded argument taken to its logical conclusion. I mean read your own shit, idiot:>>740127754>But that flirtation line does only occur with Halsin in your party, which is a choice the player has to make, so it is technically true.Absolutely fucking ridiculous.
>>740128390Except that's REGARDLESS OF PLAYER INPUT you lying fucking retard!
>>740128529Anon, I can see you're very upset but you don't seem to have actually formulated a counter argument towards whatever it is you want to argue for in this post.
>>740128575anon all she says is she had thought halsin was cute a couple of times, and you're trying to make it like she's been eager to fuck everyone behind your back.
Retarded /v/irgin anons arguing about the purity of a video game character (not real).
>>740128315When you say "developed", I can't tell if you're talking about the in-universe sense where she changes as a person because of interactions with your player, or the meta sense where her character is just written differently because you chose a different path in the game.Since you didn't specify I'll just address both. I don't believe anything you do prior to visiting the brothel directly encourages her to think about fucking someone else, so if you're suggesting that your character made her polygamous, you're wrong. That idea is ridiculous in the first place, polygamy is a deeply personal choice.If you're suggesting that Shadowheart's fundamental personality is different in different playthroughs of the game, I am just explaining to you that generally people do not see characters that way. If a character is written with a certain personality (such as being open to polygamy), that personality trait is persistent across playthroughs.
>>740128575I don't see how you could come to that conclusion. Shadowheart is probably the game's most egregious example of being "playersexual". Her romance is written to be highly enabling of whatever "lifestyle" the player wants to partake in.
>>740128390The mental gymnastics is insane. You just said that other characters are written to reject the orgy while Shadowhear isn't written that way. How does that not make her more of a whore than the other characters?
Which class would be a volcel
> I don't believe anything you do prior to visiting the brothel directly encourages her to think about fucking someone else.Anon, it is the action of bringing her to the brothel and informing the game of your character's interest in polyamory that result in the dialogue in which Shadowheart also express an interest in polyamory. You are asking me to exclude the fundamental crux of what leads to the line you are insisting is ubiquitous to the character.>If you're suggesting that Shadowheart's fundamental personality is different in different playthroughs of the game, I am just explaining to you that generally people do not see characters that way. If a character is written with a certain personality (such as being open to polygamy), that personality trait is persistent across playthroughs.It was never argued Shadowheart couldn't me made open to Polygamy based on player choice. That's obvious from playing the game and making those choices. The foundational argument is over the idea that Shadowheat as a character inherently cuckolds the player, through deed or dream, based on a particular line of dialogue that can only be accessed through specific choices that express the players own interest in such things.
>>740129229>The foundational argument is over the idea that Shadowheat as a character inherently cuckolds the player, through deed or dream, based on a particular line of dialogue that can only be accessed through specific choices that express the players own interest in such things.YET AGAIN YOU FUCKING IGNORE THE FLIRTING THAT'S NOT PLAYER PROMPTED YOU DISINGENUOUS CUNT
>>740128912What exactly are the mental gymnastics? The whole argument I'm making is that any sexual proclivities Shadowheart expresses are due to the character being written to accommodate the interests of the player, not that they are inherent to character herself as she never expresses an interest in polyamory unless the player themselves do. She is a whore if you want her to be. But that is naturally prerequisited by you being a whoremonger
>>740104484That's not Morrigan, who loves her Warden
>>740129160paladins gain their power through swearing an oath which may or may not include an oath of celibacy (don't recommend ancients because they're more nature-focused and actively stopping yourself from reproducing isn't natural)maybe a cleric of kelemvor or oghmawyll is a virgin by choice and he's a warlock
>>740115653I don't want to be with someone who makes me feel insecure. How's that for logical thinking?
>>740129376>The whole argument I'm making is that any sexual proclivities Shadowheart expresses are due to the character being written to accommodate the interests of the player, not that they are inherent to character herself as she never expresses an interest in polyamory unless the player themselves do. She is a whore if you want her to be.YOU LYING FUCKING FAGGOT!https://youtu.be/L4d3kEhyLo0
>>740129392this whore dreams of other men too
>>740129338Flirting isn't cuckoldry. Nearly every character in the game flirts with the others. Wyll is one of the most vanilla romances in the game and he flirts with both Shadowheart and Lae'zel in party banter along the road.
>>740129490>Flirting isn't cuckoldryCuck.
>>740129525Anon, by that logic every character cucks the player. There are numerous flirting lines between party members that don't account for romance flags. You're free to think that way but I think it betrays a dose of insecurity on your part more than infidelity being inherent to the game's romance system.
>>740129229Again, you haven't bothered to specify whether you're talking in-universe or meta.>Anon, it is the action of bringing her to the brothel and informing the game of your character's interest in polyamory that result in the dialogueAs has been established ad nauseum, the line of dialogue states that she was thinking about Halsin before you visit the brothel. That's why it is absurd that taking her to the brothel changes her thoughts in the past.I genuinely think you've missed the point so I will try and explain it again. If you are saying that Shadowheart is a completely different character, not through direct interactions with the player but because the game fundamentally changes her personality to suit you (this IS what you are saying by the way), I am just telling you that most people do not see fictional characters that way.
>>740129490>IT'S STRICTLY PLAYER PROMPTED>IT'S RETROACTIVELY JUSTIFIED IF IT'S PLAYER PROMPTED>OKAY IT ISN'T ALWAYS PLAYER PROMPTED>BUTPathetic
>>740129435So why don't you express your anger over Shadowheart's expression of physical attraction to Karlach?
>>740129435I hate Halsin so very much, he always dies in my playthroughs and I am not a Shartfag
why does he start every reply with "Anon"
>>740129630>I genuinely think you've missed the point so I will try and explain it again.You're being overly generous and that's putting it lightly.
>>740129474Just bants m8
>>740129490Shart is the only one who continues to flirt with others after you've locked in to her romance.
>>740129702Because he thinks it makes him sound mature
>>740129702Unironically autism. His inability to see persistent characterization across instances is very similar to how autistic people don't understand where the marble is in that one autism test
>>740129630You addressed both possibilities. I addressed both your arguments. So I addressed both possibilities.The line of dialogue is only uttered in the instance in which you the player express your interest in polyamory and orgies. There is not fundamental change in personality. The personality is that she acquiesces to the player's inclinations. There is no indication such a train of thought occurs to the character unless you the player specifically express your personal interest in it.
>>740129702Anon, I do it because I know it upsets you
>>740104484>but what if they're not?But they are.
>>740129702Sorry, it's an old habit I picked up from writing smut greentext on /mlp/
>>740130115>There is no indication such a train of thought occurs to the character unless you the player specifically express your personal interest in it.How many times do I have to tell you, she explicitly states that she was thinking about Halsin BEFORE you expressed any interest in a threesome. That is a "train of thought" that occurs BEFORE "the player expresses interest". You already lost that argument, remember?
>>740117503Looks like a man
>>740130493We already addressed the way retroactive statements work in videogames. Not all Dark Urges used to be Paladin's. That's a specific retroactive bit of dialogue based on player choice. Your instance of Shadowheart expresses an interest in other men because you made choices that express your interest in other men.
You can tell which anons ITT have fallen for the "town bike suddenly wants to take things slow when its you" trick in real life.
>>740130687Let's not kid ourselves. No one in this thread has ever touched a woman.
>>740104705This. Why would you like to date anyone who has had miles of cock go in and out of them?Do you also like eating a sandwich that has already been bitten?Will you sip out of a soup mixed with other men's saliva?
>>740129474>mfw sten tells her how he likes to nuzzle and she tries to moonwalk out of the conversation The random party bants in dragon age are the best part of the game. >when wynn asks english-carth if he likes GMILFs >leliana teasing sten about catching him playing with kittens
>>740104484Only virgins care about that. Specifically weebtards.
The only real pure CRPG waifu is Aerie.>she's never had sex>her hymen is intact>she also gives birth to your childAll other CRPG romances are cuck romances.
>>740130631>We already addressed the way retroactive statements work in videogamesThat's the meta argument. You replied to my point about the in-universe argument using the meta argument. You obviously didn't understand when I differentiated them so I'll explicitly state what I mean. The in-universe argument is that you call shadowheart a bitch in-universe and she hates you because of that. The meta argument is you pick a particular class and shadowheart's personality is re-written because of that. If you don't understand now, tell me because I am tired of explaining the same things.You're using the meta argument to say that her character is characterized differently depending on player actions. I am saying that most people do not treat characters that way.
>>740109039>tall demon girlAppealing>That voice>Getting fingered in the assLess so
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>>740120712nta but games use humanlike characters and behaviors, it is because people relate human traits to them.nobody complains about the arachnids from star trek cheating on each other or sleeping around, but things get different as soon as you can fuck one
>>740131058Both are true in this instance because we're talking about a past tense statement. The statements exists in universe because you picked choices that prompted the character to feel that way in universe. The statement exists from the meta because you made choices expressing your interesting in that type or relationship from a meta perspective. The fact that the trigger for that in universe and meta change is based on a single, specific choice doesn't change that.Your interpretation of the "In universe" character's behavior is only relevant from a meta perspective in which you knew there was a choice you could have made to change that behavior had you made different choices. Why is there any "In Universe" indication that Shadowheart has any dreams about Halsin in a playthrough in which the player does not trigger that line of dialogue through actions that shape the relationship to be that way both in universe and from a meta perspective?
>>740123084>AS SURE AS THE RISING SUNbased karlach
>>740123805>>740124645>>740125113you only get these lines if you simp for the tieflings in chapter 1. of course the game will treat you like a cuck if you do that
>>740124903>>740125138cuck game, cuck thread, cuck posters
>>740117867She literally makes the Grinch face when she's plotting some evil shit
>>740127243I've actually believed I was being invited in for Coffee. When she started being sexual I was like "Where's the coffee?" She wasn't very happy. Now I know to reject properly when offered.
>>740131531Okay so you still didnt understand. Holy shit I'm talking to Homer Simpson. The difference between the two arguments is that the in-universe argument is about the player directly doing something that changes a character, like you kill them so they die. The meta argument is about the game fundamentally responding to player actions in a way that doesn't make sense in-universe but makes sense if you see it as a video game. Like for example, you pick a starting pokemon and your rival has already picked whichever one beats yours. Doesn't make sense in-universe but it is a video game.Shadowheart wanting to fuck Halsin before you went to the brothel, *because* you went to the brothel, doesn't make any physical sense in-universe, it violates causality. However, it *does* work if you use the meta argument and say that, because you went to the brothel, the game creates a character for Shadowheart who thinks about fucking other guys. And that was ALWAYS her personality in that palythrough. That is YOUR argument because you cannot use the in-universe argument.Please tell me you understand the difference I cannot dumb things down any more.
>>740104484please for the love of god just play dating sims instead of CRPGs if you only care about dating pure maidens, I'm sick of you waifu fags
>>740132303get this sawyerfag OUTTA HERE
>Mintharatranny even cries about Shart on /v/ amazing
>>740132303>just play dating simsI lost my WEG.jpegCan someone replly to this dude with WEG.jpeg?You know which picture I am talking aboutTHAT is what dating sims are like
>>740132015nta but meta argument seems to make more sense. if you look at the way the dialogue is constructed, it's more nuanced and messy, but this is closer to how a character is written in-practice. conversely, the former (in-universe) argument suggests that no changes were made to her character during the writing process, because those changes would require us to go back and make the earlier lines consistent with the new character development. but this seems rather optimistic considering the lengthy development of the game.
>>740132303Being able to date pure maidens can make any CRPG better, or any game, for that matter.
>>740123084Uh oh Frogfag melty
>>740132645and yet you refuse to touch the genre that is entirely dedicated to doing exactly that.
>>740132015I understand you perfectly but you're arguing from a false premise that "In Universe" expressions are somehow distinct and are not superseded by the metanarratives based on player choice. There is no "In universe" in the way you are arguing because it is a videogame. There is no law of causality the way we experience it. Things can be written to react retroactively to your choices after the fact. There is no past for characters based on statements made in the past tense because even a past tense statement, when made in reaction to a choice the player made, is still fundamentally a reaction, after the fact, to that choice. Shadowheart expressing her desire to fuck Halsin in a dream before the brothel, because you went to the brothel and made the choice to have an orgy, makes perfect sense because you chose the "I want to be the cuck" options. It also makes sense in universe because it indicates in universe that you were always a cuck. Hence prompting her to have had those dreams in the past. A player who is not a cuck does not generate a romantic partner in universe with those inclinations and there is no indication to the contrary because no player experiencing a more conventional romance with Shadowheart has reason to experience such a thing, until such a point as they enter the brothel and make that choice, in which case they are indicating they are and retroactively always were a cuckold.
>>740132303Half the time they both are pure maidens and waifu wars will still rely mostly on calling the opposition whores
>>740132731>and yet you refuse to touch the genreYou know nothing about me.I need to date pure maidens in every game I playAlso VNs aren't games, they're a different medium entirely.
>>740132756>A player who is not a cuck does not generate a romantic partner in universe with those inclinations and there is no indication to the contrary because no player experiencing a more conventional romance with Shadowheart has reason to experience such a thing, until such a point as they enter the brothel and make that choice, in which case they are indicating they are and retroactively always were a cuckold.EXCEPT THIS PROVES YOU WRONG YOU LYING FUCK!https://youtu.be/L4d3kEhyLo0
>>740132816Who are the best maidens in CRPGs?
>>740123084did you know she flirts with Karlach nonstop too. I wonder why waifufags never meltdown over that?
>>740132756Are you saying that, based on player actions, Shadowheart's fundamental character can be written completely differently in different playthroughs?
>>740132816>dating sims aren't gameshuh? they very much are, they're management sims for the most part. I bet your dumbass is thinking of VNs
>>740132949Karlach is submissive as fuck and would be very open to threesomes. If you're in a relationship with her she even lets you fuck the drow twins WITHOUT her, and is fine with it. Karlach is not a threat whatsoever.
>>740132949Lesbians aren't sexually threatening to males for obvious biological reasons. Our brains are not wired to feel the same intensity of jelousy.
i literally can not stop playing rpgs as a girl
>>740133112>fundamental characterYou keep saying this line but why exactly do you believe a dream expressed as a reaction to a specific player choice and expressed at no other other point in the game is "fundamental" to her character? However you choose to spin that, yes, I would because whether or not this "Fundamental" aspect of the character is even expressed is based on player choice. There is no indication it occurs outside of when you prompt it to do so.What exactly is your cutoff point to this fundamental attribute anyway? Are you arguing that Shadowheart was having these dreams before she even met Halsin? Is it when she first lays eyes on him? After they first talk? After an act has passed? What if he dies at any point in the game? What if it's an evil run and your party kills him?
>>740133224Cute. I hope you're doing an evil Dark Urge run.
>>740133492heck yea
>>740132949Why do you ask such retarded questions?
I quite like the romance with Joshephine in DAI>Courtship romance>Do you want to be diplomatic or murderhobo?>A duel for her handThe real downside is that Inquisition have dogshit fashion so the lovely ladies wear a dogshit uniform to a ball
>>740133698>Bishit aka geared towards lesbian with men as an afterthought>Unironically "asexual" never puts out>Barely any content in core game>Even less in DLC they basically don't even give her any unique scenes just an extra line or two in existing scenes>Refuses to marry you when even the exclusive dyke elf marries youAwful. The only saving grace is at least she doesn't bring up some other guy she fucked after you fuck her, but then again only because you can't fuck her in the first place.
>>740133858>>Refuses to marry you when even the exclusive dyke elf marries youBut she does marry you at the end. Like you basically live with her in the ending slide.
>>740104484>Flirt with her about spending some time together, implying sex>She flirts back and agrees>Detect thoughts to see if she's serious>She is and likes you but she's actually really embarrassed >Tone it down and suggest a drink later on instead>Shadowheart approvescute
>>740133373Your argument is "Shadowheart is not implicitly a whore because her fundamental personality is defined by player actions". You seem to really struggle to express it but that is your opinion. I specifically use the word "fundamental" to show that I am not talking about a trait that can easily be changed in-universe, like whether she likes the player, but a personality trait that can only be retroactively dictated by the game itself, in the meta context, rather than altered in-universe. Like, whether she is vegetarian or not.I am making that distinction because, you dense fuck, your entire argument rests on it. If the game does not build Shadowheart's fundamental personality for each playthrough and her fundamental personality is actually consistent across all playthroughs, that means she is the same whore in every playthrough.The first paragraph of this >>740132756Is just you using that meta argument. You say>There is no "In universe" in the way you are arguing because it is a videogame. But this is true for all fiction. All of it can be chopped and changed. Yet, normal people use in-universe reasoning all the time to discuss fiction.I'll say this one last time. Your interpretation of Shadowheart as someone whose personality is a blackbox that is only defined by the player is not one that most people have, because most people don't have the weird robot brain that you do. Most people can understand the idea of a character having consistent characterization across different instances in a shared fictional universe. Most people can understand the concept of Bowser going after Peach because that's what his character is, not because the game decided it was that way.I am not wasting any more time on you. By all means, continue being a mentally challenged defender of a questionable romance option in BG3.
>>740104484I don't like ugly women in my vidya
>>740132303it's extra weird in the current year with the imported-from-nippon purefaggotry targeted towards explicitly unhinged party membersno idea how anyone tries to claim any sort of moral highground while defending such unreliable liabilities
>>740104808Karlach looks like a man only tranny fuckers choose her
Post more cuck bait
>>740132949Because girl on girl is based, duh
>>740134709>Your argument is "Shadowheart is not implicitly a whore because her fundamental personality is defined by player actions"That's incorrect. I argued her sexual proclivities are based on Player preference. Because that's demonstrated by her character throughout her Romance. Shadowheart is probably the most lenient Romance in the game in regards to enabling the player to pursue whatever they want.Your argument is that a single statement that is only ever made through a specific series of player choices means that something expressed by the character after those choices in a fundamental attribute of the character. You continually argue for an "In Universe" approach to this idea even though the statement you said is "Fundamental" to her character would only be expressed "In Universe" to players who made that specific choice. Your argument that the statement is true across all instances of the story is inherently a meta assumption. No other romance path would have a Shadowheart who said that line. So what is your argument for why those character's Shadowhearts have that dream in their universe? Most people can understand the concept that a character's thoughts and feelings can change based on character input, even retroactively in some cases. Most people would not argue that Tali wants to have sex with Garrus while romancing Shepherd in Mass Effect even though if Shepherd does not romance either character, they will develop a romantic relationship that includes statements of having been developing the partnership for some time.
>>740132949The lack of threesome options in this game is absurd considering all the polyamory shit it allows in spots and the fact half these chicks express interest in girls who suddenly become super staunch romantic rivals.
>>740135964Having a threesome with the two most popular girls would appeal to straight men a little bit too much so we can't have that
I dislike this game because everyone is annoying, gay and pouty. Why the fuck do people like this trash? Is it really just the production values?
>>740104484>still wants to be with you but can't because of her obligations as the Mother Superior of her cloister and chosen of Sharheartbreaking kino
>>740132949women can't have sex
>>740138390doesn't she literally peg you tho
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>>740138538No, Wenduag is cuck bait. Cammy just cucks you straight out
>>740104484>pic unrelated
relationships with used goods just do not work if you're a virgin. it's not even about sex or loyalty, you'll never be able to fully relate to each otheryour expectations from a relationship and life in general will be so different that you might as well be living on different planets
>>740139335Is it though? Shadowheart never cheats on you, if she fucks someone else, it's because you consented to it
>>740139292KekTrue
>>740139754Arue is straight humiliation since you'll always get compared to the literal bulls she's had in the past.
>>740138538>>740139292>>740139754>>740139823Can you retards please stop for a single thread? Find another hobby
Imagine romancing Jae. She's gone through miles of cock before she got to you, and she continues to do so even if you start her romance route. What a cuck romance.
>He's been self-bumping all day to earn 10RMB from tencent在田间劳作一日,便是为毛主席的事业挣得了一日的饺子馅!
>>740140478Nobody is offended by that because literally nobody ever romanced Jae. Your post is the first time I've seen her name on /v/ in like 6 months.
>>740117503Fags cry about her because she starts talking about her ex literally as soon as you pull your dick out of her.
>Nobody is offended by that because literally nobody ever romanced Jae. Your post is the first time I've seen her name on /v/ in like 6 months.
>>740140705I mean talking about your ex is frowned upon in real life too, especially during or right after some romance.
