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>90% of /v/ believe this
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Top is attempting to be vaguely believable but ruining it with woke
Bottom is outright ridiculous from the outset, so there are no expectations of realism in the first place
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Nope, I don't make excuses, the one below is better becuase my penis says so.
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>>740139892
This comic is retarded because no straight man tries to justify the sexy woman in a game. They just say "based devs" and play the game. The guy in the comic is homosexual and so is the person who made it. and so is OP
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>>740139952
Then why is it most of the time the men still need full kitted up armor to survive the same hits?
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>>740139892
It really do be like that tho.
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>>740139892
Bikiny armor hasn't been a thing for almost 2 decades
Get a fucking new outrage to seethe about.
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>>740139892
Trash has excuse of being trash
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>>740139892
That sure is a wall of text and I ain't reading any of that.
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>>740140043
Because enemies go easy on cute girls.
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The premise of this comic can be dismantled from another angle. I decide to make a Black Panther reboot where T'Challa is now white. He still fights for Wakanda, uses their customs, makeup but now is played by someone who looks like Brad Pitt. I also decide to make a cartoon series where a black hero is being helped by white African gods.

Surely there would be no outrage. Right?
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>>740139892
No one simultaneously holds both of those opinions. The comic author invented someone to be mad at.
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>>740140181
No there would be no outrage and everyone would be fine with it. Hi my name Gaydolph Niggler from universe 1031371. I like jews and sucking dick, circumcised only of course.
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>>740139892
Female warriors and minorities in general are automatically unrealistic in a medieval European setting.
With that in mind any attempt to sell it as realistic is doomed to fail, while throwing realism out the window and relying on fanservice is the only option.

All of which is a moot point, because bikini armour hasn’t been a thing in decades precisely because of turbo fags like the artist.
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>>740140043
TOP dwarven engineers designed that armor based on injuries sustained by dozens of women who returned from combat
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>>740139892
One is fantasy the other is realslop
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the most annoying person here is the inevitable fag who'll say women fighting at all is inherently unrealistic so bottom is fine solely because of that
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>>740140043
Cuz cool armor is cool and boob armor is boob your brain is butt and your opinion is fart.
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Realistically, even male warriors with full armor shouldn't be able to withstand attacks from stuff like dragons either.
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Women fighting at all is inherently unrealistic so the bottom panel is fine for that reason alone.
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>>740140270
nigga i ain't reading all that
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Women being allowed to fight(or have any other kinds of rights or privileges)in a roughly medieval time period is already unrealistic as fuck, so you may as well ride that train to the end of the track and give them bikini armor. Even more justified in a fantasy setting because you can say it protects as good as full plate does because of magic. If magic exists and can produce defenses on par with what would normally require you be encased in dozens of pounds of steel, why wouldn't you tailor your personal gear for maximum /fa/?
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>>740139892
It’s easy to explain because in fantasy worlds there exists shit like magic to actually make it so that kind of armor is viable. And if is a world like DnD then barbarians train to fight with less armor and it make shit harder for them.
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Woman in combat is just not realistic at all
Even with full fledged armor the idea is dumb
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>>740139892
On second thought, Fuck you!
I don't have to justify why I like titties over propaganda
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>>740139892
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I don't dislike it because of sexism or whatever, I just think it looks dumb. It was always pretty much just a compromise anyway in place of actual nudity.
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>>740139892
>second panel is talking about the game dev making stupid excuses
>fourth panel is the player making excuses instead for some reason
stupid stupid strawman
i have edited the image accordingly
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Wow who knew chuds were reactionary hypocrites OP, come now anyone with a brain already knew
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>>740139892
Alright then, do full armour.
But also make her cute and kind and nice to the protagonist. You can make her nice, right?
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>>740139892
I think needing to have long winded in-universe justifications for absolutely everything is stupid. People like women in bikini armor because it's hot, that's it.
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>>740140572
Based
>>740140614
cringe
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>>740140260
This image makes me uncomfortable.
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>>740140572
BASED
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>>740140572
>re-read original to see what words were mashed together
>based was already there
based
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>>740139892
>historically inaccurate settings
>inaccurate
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>>740140572
If he hates women why does he think the second woman is based?
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>>740139892
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>>740139892
I just like tits, tranny
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>>740140720
In the context he is using it, it is correct. It is historically inaccurate for the women or minorities to have been there.
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>>740139892
Man, if only people had the ability to realize that video games are not history teachers. Has anyone ever lost their dog-raping sharts over the Dynasty Warriors games not being historically accurate and having playable women?
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>>740139892
As much as we're about to bitch about this and rip it to shreds, the problem is that they still have this out in open in the creative space and are sharing it with each other. Normies are going to look at this, see the people sharing it all around, think "Ah, this is true," and repeat these lies without further thought cause they think this is the accepted thought in the tribe.

Instead of bitching, we need more artists in the space making counter shit.
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>>740140572
Literally me.
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>>740139892
1. they don't bother justifying women and minorities in medieval times is the problem, no one has a melty over Eowyn in LotR for example since the narrative accepts that her position is a unique rarity
2. no one has ever justified chainmail bikinis since anything with it is not taking itself seriously
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>>740139892
A good fantasy establishes a setting.
A lazy fantasy throws shit at the wall and expects everything to stick.
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>>740140043
I'd play a fantasy game with a naked guy. Exhibit A. "Achilles Dragging the Body of Hector", by Alexander Rothaug.
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How am I supposed to be making hypocritical excuses for bikini armor babes when there's barely any games that feature them any more?
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>>740139892
I just like asses and tits cause it makes my dick happy, you think i need to say more than that
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>>740141393
Damn prefectly 90° spear
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>>740141393
haha you can see his peepee
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>>740139892
yes
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>>740139952
Hate this false equivalency.
Two small suspensions of disbelief are not equal to a fucking gigantic one.
>What is africans emigrated earlier than irl
>What if women's upper body strength wasn't so limited
Vs
>What if damage worked like a toddler on crack
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>>740139892
>people accept rule of cool
>people don't accept rule of neo-marxist intersectional negro-worship ugliness
>omg this is le hypocrisy
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>>740141764
your spells do not work any more
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>>740139892
>argue about my strawman of a strawman based on a web comic making a joke
I don't think I will.
Your thread sucks.
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>>740139892
Neither is realistic. But bottom is believable. Have you ever seen how women dress themselves?
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>>740141861
>Have you ever seen how women dress themselves?
I have never once seen a bitch wearing a chain mail bikini outside of a movie
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>>740141764
What if women's sexual liberation? Does it scare you?
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>>740139892
try arguing without hyperboles that you didn't even come up with yourself
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>>740141764
>what is it's video game, it's not real, and people who take this shit seriously need to be punched in the face
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>>740140043
To attract female women with an armor fetish.
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>>740139892
Retarded strawman because no one has ever tried to defend bikini armor with realism excuses.
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>>740139892
bottom pic is just a slut for the real warriors, she doesn't actually see intense fighting
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>>740139892
Holy fuck you are retarded.
I hope your life isn't too difficult due to your severe mental disability.
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>>740141925
A chain mail bikini would be too tame irl.
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>>740141996
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>>740140043
Conan the Barbarian would like to have a conversation with you.
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>>740140181
Are there even any Brad Pitts left in Hollywood nowadays? Pretty much every white male actor under the age of 30 looks like a bitch
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>>740142008
Then no logic applies to any fiction ever and the most blatant wish fulfillment deux ex machina is about as good as a well thought out plot.
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>>740140043
You were saying?
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>>740140043
Men are inferior to girls. They need the armor to even compete on the same level as a naked lady.
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Here I made this 5 years ago. For the same dogshit thread.
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>>740142437
It do be like dat.
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>>740142510
Maybe the thread
Is made of chocolate
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>>740142325
>invent a stupid rule into existing premise
>get told you shouldn't or cannot do that
>insist that if your rule is turned down, ALL rules must go as well
this argument is really dumb and gay
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>>740142302
I sincerely can't name any Hollywood actors under 30 as far as men go. Theres no big standouts.
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>>740139892
Second pic never happened. Name a single western game in 2026 that has a character like that, troonoid.
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>>740142325
I love how this thing has become the magical shield you retards always hide behind, and that your insane crying and bitching only applies when women and non-whites are involved.
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>>740142437
Actually, since I posted it again, and am having some fairly serious thoughts about the same dogshit threads happening on /v/ for 5 fucking years.
I guess I might as well ask, is it self evident in the image that Coach isn't a belligerent racist shitnozzle and that's why The Man likes him, or could I do a better job conveying that?
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>>740139892
>90% of /v/ believe this
I would never spout that drivel on the bottom because bikini armor requires no justification, clarification, or qualification. I know EXACTLY why I like it. It's libtards who shove shit only they like into games and write whole essays on how under certain historical circumstances it could possibly maybe sorta kinda hypothetically happen. "Realism" is gay and selectively applied besides.
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>>740140351
is he annoying but you didn't say he is wrong?
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>>740139892
Fucking no one on the face of this earth has ever looked at bikini armor and gone
>"OH WOW IT'S SO REALISTIC!"
People that behave like this should be banned from voting.
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>>740142929
Go back to hell where you pederasts belong
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>>740142574
But anon, you're the one doing this exact thing you're complaining about.
>fiction doesnt matter, don't think too hard
>Ok then I summon BMW/women don't need armor
>NOOOOOO NOT LIKE THAT
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>>740142929
>magical shield has yet to be broken, only recourse is shaming people who use it
arigatou BMW-sama
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>>740139892
It's closer to 99% and we are right
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>>740139892
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>>740139892
>wall of text
tranny brain
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>>740139892
Chainmail bikini is a myth.
Name one game that has it and isn't some Korean MMO. I can only think of one hidden skin for Amazon in Blade of Darkness from 2001, but that was a game with a very heavy Conanesque aesthetic.
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>>740139892
>no fur
>no tail
>no snout
Why are game devs allergic to good female character design?
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>>740140572
Me on the right
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>>740142437
THIS USED TO BE A NICE NEIGHBORHOOD
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>>740140474
Yeah, everybody figured out you haven't seen it before.
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>>740139892
>historically inaccurate niggers and ugly foid representation
not fun
>historically inaccurate titties
fun
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>>740139892
That comic is 7 years old. Nothing gives a comic more longevity on /v/ than its haters.
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>>740139892
>top
>perfectly reasonable complaint
>bottom
>something nobody has ever said in the history of people making bikini armor girls because yeah no shit its not supposed to be reasonable or realistic, its supposed to be eye candy
author should probably just say that he's a faggot that hates boobs.
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>>740140043
Because it looks cool. Even the stupid bikini armor they used to put on female characters was more to look cool than anything else. You weren't supposed to jerk off to it, and the people designing it probably weren't either.
Art is about the reinforcement or subversion of inherent qualities, and being attractive and kicking ass at the same time is as inherently appealing to women in an aspirational sense as it is to men in a visual sense.
This isn't some misogynistic take, either. Women in positions of power or authority still overwhelmingly put in the effort to dress and present themselves in a high status manner, whether it's beneficial to them or not. No one cares if a woman working an office job is wearing heels, but a lot of them do. It makes them feel good and pulls together a cohesive outward identity that they like to present to the world.

The actual problem is that we've made cultural conditions that keep women in a socially paranoid state. An distillation of feminine expression can't be just that, it has to be interpreted as a means by which men exert passive intersexual control over women and their self image.
They're encouraged to read every female character and figure in art and advertising as an implicit command that says "This is what you need to be, or you're worthless." Which has rarely ever been the case. It's a horribly stressful and inherently unfulfilling mindset to live in, and the negative consequences contribute to a vicious feedback loop that's driven men and women apart to a nearly catastrophic degree.
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>>740143006
its self evident to everyone with a brain while retards get filtered.
its perfect.
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>>740144146
>The actual problem is that we've made cultural conditions that keep women in a socially paranoid state
>ey're encouraged to read every female character and figure in art and advertising as an implicit command that says "This is what you need to be, or you're worthless."
who the fuck is we? women did that to themselves
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>>740140043
When was the last modern game that actually did this? Don't say Asian games, this is a western discourse issue, where all the annoying liberal faggots are.
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>>740142161
In all my years of perversion I would have never imagined doing this. I'm actually impressed by the sheer whorishness of it.
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>>740143693
Golden Axe
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>>740144146
>You weren't supposed to jerk off to it
You are fucking stupid and you've never met an artist in your whole life. Never type about this topic again
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>>740144345
Seems on brand for everyone involved in the setting.
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>>740142929
>>740142574
How can you be so stupid that you don’t understand what the image is saying. Genuinely too retarded to be with talking to.
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>>740144371
I love it when people pretend artists are never horny. Even ones who draw fully clothed women in military uniforms and armor jerk off to them, that is their fetish.
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>>740144371
Nah, he's right
I bet you think people jerked off to statues too, even the child ones
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>>740144371
>never met an artist in your whole life
He absolutely hasn't because 100% of them are cooming to their own drawings, especially the female ones.
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>>740139892
Armor dresses > Bikini shit
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>>740143693
They've probably been featured more in webcomics bitching about them than every side-scrolling beat-em-up and dungeon crawler put together.
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>>740144430
Yea but that wasn't part of the stipulations
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When did 4chan become so lame and gay? I haven't been around for the last three years much but half of /v/ talks like feminists now unironically. Doesn't resetera still exist for you to post there?
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I genuinely believe women would absolutely wear the bottom of their own free will and choice based entirely on what they wear in real life
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>>740139892
In reality, people come up with ad-hoc justifications to fit their initial instinctive reactions
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>>740144503
It's actually not that common, even in JP games. It was even less common back when this was first brought up.
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>>740139892
When was the last time a western game had bikini armor? It has to be 15+ years ago
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>>740144543
Yes but they'll also call OTHER women who wear it slut/whore/etc.
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>>740144543
They would, and ugly frumpy women would bitch about it like they already do
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>>740144430
Tone doesn't matter to the retards who still insist upon crying about this shit as if it were ever prevalent.
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>>740144583
This, it's like bringing up flapper dresses and complaining about them.
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>>740144637
The funny part is that flat armor would cause so much discomfort she would switch back to boob plate. This is backed by real world data of chicks in the military using the back plates for their bulletproof vests in the front because the curve accommodates their tits better.
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>>740142437
YEAH
>FOOTBALL
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>>740140181
Well you see, you would be wrong. Just like the male likes sexy females characters because they're simply sexy, the average sjw likes brown people and women for the sake of it makes them feel good that they are including them. A game writer/producer inserting a brown woman where she doesn't historically belong, makes that writer/producer feel good about doing that.
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>>740139892
for me it's that they replaced beautiful people for ugly people.
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>>740139892
I once saw this youtuber BTFO that mortal kombat ed boon faggot, showing that underwear outfits are actually closer to real fight outfits than the slop they wear in the modern games.
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>>740143693
Quiet walking around half naked because she breathes through her skin o algo is the same
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>>740139892
>nigger and slayqueen bad
>boobs good
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>>740144663
Agreed, but it still answers his question
The people who originally bitched about this were looking at sword & sorcery stuff but ignoring that men are also dressed the same way in that genre of content, likely because they saw a cover for Red Sonja and never actually looked any deeper into it
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>o algo
die
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>>740140043
Because men have +4 STR, while women have +4 DEX.
Men tank hits while women avoid them just like responsibilities
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>>740139892
I'd be just as accepting of the second one if she was black.
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>>740145039
Not an argument
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>>740140043
because devs are heterosexual and don't realize everyone want the men to be mostly naked too
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I have never once done this. I just want both. Executed well. Like how it used to be. Before the idiots in charge decided to make only the top. And do it poorly.
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Couldn't they just whinge about the truck loads of cleavage, miniskirts, and slutty thongs from the Y2K era?
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>>740141764
>um actually uh um we need to include this gay out of context shit because uh w-what if they immigrated earlier and history was different and slavery never happened and a single black merchant traveling the land had ten thousand children and-
vs
>I think it's cool and everything else in this setting is what I think is cool, so it fits
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>>740139892
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>>740139892
Is this a discord raid?
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>>740145198
They just hate men. This has nothing to do with fashion or outfit choices or whatever.

Cleavage, miniskirts, these are outfit choices by real women. No problem
Fictional women cleavage, miniskirts, these are things real men enjoy. Big problem. Thousands of articles. Protests. Massive funding drives to purge it

This applies to literally everything in the entire world. They are literally dismantling civilization as a "fuck you" to males
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>>740139892
if the nigger was dressed in tribal rags with a bonw through his nose then i would have no issue
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>>740139892
we can either have both
but you people complain about the second while pushing for the first
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>>740139892
Left cant meme
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>>740139892

>it's another /v/ doesn't understand targeting demographics episode

Women make up over 50 percent of the gaming fanbase so of course companies are going to try to make it more appealing for women. They already have the male audience despite what /v/ wants you to believe games like God of war do sell. The last of us 2 sold so well they made a two season show out of it. The rage here on /v/ does not matter, what matters is the product being sold which is why the companies are going in this direction
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>>740145440
>Women make up over 50 percent of the gaming fanbase
Lies.
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>>740145440
Get a job and some friends
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>>740145440
They are not 50 percent lol
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>>740140043
Armor is just decorative
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>>740145440
Women like sexy women, this is a fact
Ugly women hate all women and bitch about sexy women
Ugly women do not but things
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>>740140043
Because armor looks cool.

I don't want the women to look "cool", I want them to look attractive.
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>>740139892
for me it's top but she turns into bottom when she takes damage
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>>740145516
*buy
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You know I strongly get the feeling this legitimately is the same dogshit thread, with most of the same posters, from 5 years ago.
And I don't really like it either.
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>>740145051
this is total bullshit, men have both increased STR and increased DEX (and INT). Men are just straight up better in everything except CHR
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>>740144437
I don't need to understand on 4channel.
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>>740145440
So why are profits down across the board? Why are most recent appeals to "the modern audience" failing? Why did that crappy 007 game the other day redesign the women in the game to be more attractive compared to the early preview footage?
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>>740145553
It basically is, with moat posters like >>740145440 playing a role for the bit
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>>740145440
They've been trying to target this imaginary demographic for the last two decades and have seen absolutely zero success with it because that "50% of gamers" only play mobile games or wordle when they're waiting for an uber or taking a shit, and in the interest of inclusivity, that counts as being a "gamer".
None of these people will ever buy a console let alone a video game, or if they did, they bought it during the Wii craze when it was getting pushed on the fucking Oprah show and every white woman everywhere bought one, played Wii Sports for half an hour a day for maybe a week at most and then put it in the closet with all the other fad bullshit they bought over the years.
>They already have the male audience
Publishers sit there and think exactly this, that they've got a captive audience that buys solely on brand loyalty, and in some cases (mostly madden/fifa/COD) they're right. But if Madden or 2K came out with all the players replaced with ugly bitches and told anyone who complained that they don't matter and they're going to buy the game anyway, they'd find out that audience isn't quite as captive as they'd hoped.
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>>740145648
Kinda makes me wonder if I should really even bother put in effort posting on /v/ anymore, if I even post on /v/ at all.
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>>740145553
People are making the same complaints because the same problem still exists within gaming and if anything it's gotten worse. You fat fucking retard
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>>740139892
IF YOU WANT REALISM THERE WOULD BE NO FEMALES WEARING THAT PLATE ARMOR AT ALL BECAUSE: 1. women are physically weak. 2. MEN fought in wars historically.
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>>740144438
>>740144475
Artists do tend to draw porn on the side, either as a joke or just to blow off steam. Disney and WB have sizable archives of all the vulgar shit their artists drew for their own amusement. But that doesn't mean every frame of Jessica Rabbit was porn, and it doesn't mean Kim Possible was never suitable for kids, or any less intended for an audience of young girls, just because a bunch of guys doodled bare tits on scrap paper.

Your estimation of artists and their horniness is biased by the fact that most of the ones you see on the internet are outright porn artists, or at least softcore/pinup artists.
The guy who drew the concept art for Bikini Armor Lady #46 didn't draw it with his dick in his hand. He thought it looked cool and it would draw eyes to the game.
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>>740145826
It is not this difficult to just admit you were wrong. It's not a big deal. Just hold the L
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>>740145701
Eh, probably not for threads like these but there are still some threads worth the effort sometimes
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>>740145826
I don't deny bikini armor can look cool, it can and does. I'm just saying if he's a healthy heterosexual man he's gonna get a little hot from drawing all that tits and ass.
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>>740145925
I mean I did have fun making a webm of the ayo teach kid getting whacked with a gameboy, but that was months ago.
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>>740145826
I accept your concession
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>>740141764
Fantasy logic is based on leaps of scale, if you start at 10 then it's easy to jump from that to 14 or 7 without breaking said logical chain as in:
>In this world everyone has magic that allows them to fly (scale of 15) and this also makes them much tougher to kill (scale of 8) but it comes at the cost of being forced to serve some eldritch god for the gift of flight (scale of 19)

The scale is entirely up to how the idea is represented and presented towards the recipient, if you start your premise off at a "fantastical" scale then it's easy to make larger leaps in logic (AKA, if a wizard can literally nuke entire continents with magic then believing he can fly into space using that same magic isn't that large of a leap in logic) because the recipient will already have needed to accept the baseline leap in logic.
You CAN still make large leaps even if you start off small but you need to do the following in order to not break the chain/scale of logic:
>Slowly build the scale up towards a new baseline by introducing more fantastical elements into the story one at a time in a linear fashion (Think Berserk during the golden arches vs after Femtos creation)
>Make a sudden/shocking leap in logic with very detailed explanations that grounds/masks it as a smaller leap in logic (Think JoJo and how many bullshit moves/powers the characters literally pull out of their ass every other chapter and how Araki can sometimes spend multiple pages trying to explain away the asspull with "LOGIC&FACTS")

Writing leaps of logic into a story is an art form onto itself as the scale can be played with quite heavily as long as you can explain it in a manner that keeps the chain/scale intact which in itself is a combination of presentation, information leverage and world building.

Lastly, the reason why "africans settlers in Europe as non-slaves before the 1400s" always break the scale is because they don't do/poorly do what has been written above AKA they are just shit writers.
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>>740145461
>>740145489

https://www.statista.com/statistics/232383/gender-split-of-us-computer-and-video-gamers/
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>>740145701
What exactly am I supposed to say to this performative garbage? If it doesn't interest you then leave you stupid ugly nigger. Pretending of course that your post was genuine and you aren't just going to continue visiting every day. Fuck I hate you. Kill yourself
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>>740139892
>Leftists unable to decipher media based on historical events and total fiction again
Do these niggers think that Hitler actually stomped around in a big robot suit?
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>>740146058
This doesnt allow me to check the source so Im just going to dismiss it
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>>740146058
Frenchkiss a blender you deceitful freaks.
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>>740146068
are you really upset that he dislikes that threads here get repeated so much that they read like copy&pastes of threads on the same exact topic from 5 years ago
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>>740145247
>shit's enchanted yo
Imagine being gay enough to demand anything more from such a fanciful concept.
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>>740139892
top is 21st century propaganda that is lame and gay already.
bottom is men horny, which is universal and eternal.

if some man has to explain why he likes boobs, he's talking to a fucking faggot or an insufferable cunt.
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I like women in bikini armor
I like women in accurate armor
I like women in frilly armor
I like women in armor
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>>740146125
>>740146159

Thats right. Stick your head in the sand. Nothing will ever shake your mental gymnastics
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>>740145972
There's a difference between something that makes you say "Oh yeah, that looks nice." and actual porn.
Actual porn is so ubiquitous on the internet that that distinction is going away for the worse, and THAT'S what the fucking problem is.
There's no gradient of stimulation anymore. It's either black or white. That's what creates the mindset that if something is titillating at all, you might as well just look at porn. It terminates any thought of artistic merit in any sexualized context at all.
That's why there's such a significant surge of puritanical views on sexuality over the last 15 years. Everything is either totally above board, or it's an under the radar substitute for porn.
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>>740146013
That's a good explanation.
This is basically what is meant by a work of fiction respecting its internal consistency
A lot of people who think that simply because something is fantasy that anything can happen without being questioned are people who have never heard of internal consistency or don't understand what it means and why it's important (i.e keeping suspension of disbelief)
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>>740145440
>uhm, whymen make up 50% of gamers
>most of them only play some mobile garbage made for the most casualniggers
Kill yourself.
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>You must buy the uglified wokietrash because I say so!
Not going to happen, enjoy your no-sale
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>>740146254
>actual porn
Why do I feel like what you mean here is "sexy girl not fully covered up"
People call anything slightly titillating porn these days because so I don't take the use of the word with much weight
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>>740146402
I forgot to remove that [because] so ignore that
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>>740146125
The Harvard bitch spent 8 years being a teacher there despite cheating like a 5 year old in her own studies by putting in nonsensical answers, and she was only found out because some boomer coworkers thought it'd be interesting to do so one random afternoon. You can utterly lie, very badly so, in the most prestigious university in the West, and nobody will notice for a decade, and it's only out of sheer dump luck that anyone did notice, not muh peer review that every retards worships. If you don't have strong verifiable data, it can be dismissed instantly.
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>>740145212
There were more people from Northern Africa and Middle-East in Medieval Europe than you think.
Race wasn't seen as a thing back then, it wasn't even a concept. In more remote areas of different Kingdoms and such of course there wasn't almost at all but trade has always existed as well as traveling.
While many blame woke stuff looking past from "modern lens", fuckton of anti-woke people do the same with their logic of racism and older very biased historical "research". For decades the gay shit ancient and classical greeks did was constantly ignored for example because their time was seen as the masculine and "white" western civilization. Same happened with the logic of "there can't be any blacks in historical white Europe. Our right-wing politicians wouldn't have let that happen to protect the white birthrates" starting point. The kings and nobles gave zero fucks about it
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>>740146683
Mentally retarded nigger
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>>740146738
Excellent argument.
I genuinely don't mind discussing this kind of stuff with people in general, but I keep forgetting this is /v/.
Ill just go play vidya
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>>740146683
>Race wasn't a thing back then!
>Anon says, as anyone can easily google "Racial theory in history" and find out that humans have been obsessed over each others ethnicity since the dawn of history with historical evidence as far back as the rise of the Egyptian empire.
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I love bikini armor. Funny, sexy, nostalgic. I can get behind women in full over designed impractically heavy armor as well, it's also funny. Practically designed armor with huge obvious boob curves is also great.
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>>740142325
>the most blatant wish fulfillment deux ex machina is about as good as a well thought out plot.
this but unironically
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>>740145440
>gaming fanbase
So does this mean players or players and secondaries? I could totally see that for something like resident evil since 90% of the bullshit I see online with those games are femcels saying "wanna fuck leon kennedy"
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>>740140043
They don't "need" full kitted up armor because it's all fiction anyway.
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>>740140043
They don't "need" it. Armor just looks cool.
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>>740146013
What if there were some african ships at port with no other explanation given?

The black character still dresses and speaks like a european.
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>>740140043
They worship puny gods who won't hook them up with magic loincloths.
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Maybe I'm retarded but why do people care about this? If you're a puritan and he-man armor offends you then don't play the game, if you're a gooner and women wearing armor they realistically couldn't even carry offends you then don't play the game.
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>>740146242
Why dont you provide a source?
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>>740146472
Only medical/nutrition studies have strong data, literally everything else doesnt even land anywhere in the hierarchy of evidence
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>>740139892
this has never happened and i dont think that something even close to this retarded caricature has ever happened.
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>>740146929
lying comes to his kind as easy as breathing to any man.
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>>740139892
artist has to be a really salty uggo woman
there is no other way
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>>740140181
not the same thing, but then you already knew that
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>>740139892
oh wait, this is the same artist that made this comic

ha, classic
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>>740147135
I was with you until
>gooner
I don't respect people who use that word
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>>740139892
how is it that every single faggy webcomic artist is STILL making this fucking joke
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>>740147476
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>>740139892
women would still play as the girl in the bottom pic anyway, the only people who get mad about this are sois who think defending m'lady will get him some puss
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>>740147098
Because that would imply that everything else about the story is based on the "Real world" which has very defined rules that pretty much everyone knows about because the live it every day of their lives.

You'd have to do (at least) one of the following in order to make the logical chain hold:
>Do some world building that explains why characters of different ethnicity, culture and background all get along well enough to openly trade with each other
>Change some other aspect of the world to be more logically consistent with the premise and explain why/how it's different
>Make a larger (and explained) leap in logic before introducing your idea
>Point out to the recipient that "Real world" logic is irrelevant and build your own from scratch in order to support that idea

Every story needs a logical chain in order to function, you can't just do whatever you want as a writer since everything needs to be logically consistent or else your story won't be believable enough to actually carry any intellectual weight for the recipient.

To point out why your idea doesn't work:
IRL, there have been traders traveling all over the world, but they were all limited by the amount of food they could carry to support them through their journey and the time it took to get where they wanted to go.
Traders from the other side of the globe would needs a very good reason to trade with people they most likely don't even know existed up until that point and the ability to actually communicate, both are logical leaps that need to be explained in order to work if the only difference in your world is what you wrote.
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>>740147098
>african ships
so the port is empty?
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>>740139892
every day i wish chainmail bikinis were as common in games are they are in the minds of web cartoonists who complain about them.
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>>740146683
The "gay shit" by the ancient and classical greeks is made up by kikes like yourself. They found a couple of vases in a BROTHEL and decided to use it as evidence that everyone was gay back then.
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>>740140280
kek
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>>740140801
Because she's fictional.
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>>740143359
the bmw is fine as long as its somehow written well. It wont be btw and youre arguing like a child. sometimes
>just because
its a good enough reason as long as you dont fuck with it too much in the story. Sometimes explaining something hurts it more than it helps. Even then there needs to be a consistent enough through line that it doesnt sound like schizophrenic babble
>yeah 1200s europe had bmws
>but only this one and it was created by the magi
>but secretly its actually a dragon and once it gets ready to fight it transforms into a dragon
>but instead of firebreath it lobs bmws from its maw that turn you into a gel creature if you get hit
>but then the dragon keeps you in its trunk and the magi pours salt on you a little bit every day
at a certain point, whatever was used to make the story is a waste of resources
To entertain the lore of bikini armor
>the women are so fucking skillful that its seen more of as high decoration/status symbol than protective clothing and dying in battle is an honor itself. The less you wear the better a warrior youre considered.
and just leave it at that.
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>>740147501
Every time they think that they've finally put an end to the chainmail bikini menace, some obscure passion project comes out and the threat level resets.
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>>740147501
because making "observations" about trends and framing them in a ridiculous way is the literal only thing they have.
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>>740139892
Reverse the reactions for me
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>>740140043
Chuddies really hated this one...
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>>740147603
okay, how about there's an african noble type draped in jewelry, such as what might be possible with the likes of the Timbuktu gold mines. Besides his entourage of guards he is also being followed by local merchants.

The noble is drinking from a european bottle.

>>740147659
anon, I literally posted an african ship, with name, because I knew you'd say that
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>>740148262
ok now was it made by the shitskins themselves, or was it given to them by white people?
and can you provide actual historic evidence for it.
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>>740148305
If you want to know more, you have already been provided with the name.
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>>740148482
im not doing your homework for you.
prove the ship was made by niggers.
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>>740139892
>comic creator is disingenuous lying fucktard who intentionally pretends there's no difference between historically accurate 'middle ages simulator' and random fantasy setting with dragons and bikiny armor
It's all so fucking tiresome.
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>>740147532
GIWTWM
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>>740146402
By "actual porn" I mean full exposure in a context which isn't meant to be tasteful. Breasts and genitals being the sole focus for their own sake, or clothing that actually does barely cover the woman.
There's clearly a difference between a traditional painting of a woman who happens to be naked, and something meant to be ogled, but we're losing that distinction more and more as time goes on.
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>>740147532
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>>740148510
and I'm not doing your homework for you either, nigger
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>>740148262
That doesn't really make a difference, you still need to explain:
>Why and how is he there in the first place and why would he travel across the world for it?
>Why and how can he speak the local language?

The only thing you've so far explained is the following:
>He is rich and influential
>The other traders have an initial reason to speak to him (he is flaunting his riches openly)

The bottle pointer could be used as a chekhovs gun of sorts that point towards him having a very specific taste for European delicacy, but you'd need to keep building on it to use that as a believable explanation for his travels.
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>>740148556
you're the ones trying to assert that fucking africans made boats.
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>>740148576
They did, they just didn't make ships.
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>>740140043
Because armour is cool you dweeb.
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>>740139892
No one ever says that shit in panel 2. They just go "cool, she looks hot. Doesn't need to make sense, its a video game and shes not real", and rightly so
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>>740148664
I meant panel 4, fuck
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>>740148559
I could add more, maybe an interpreter and a welcoming group addressing the noble type by title and reason for visit but I'm trying to go for brevity with a scene that goes by in a few seconds without comment.

I feel most people could make up their own reasons, even if that is an unsatisfying stance to take. But you extrapolated everything I was trying to imply so I feel I succeeded as far as I attempted to go.
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>>740139952
>ruining it with woke
>there is a black guy and a woman
you are a snowflake
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>>740148192
disprove = hate
?
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At least chuds talk about games that actually exist
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>>740149123
You are a tranny.
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I only "believe" empirical proven matters, for ex. that wokeslop is a net loss for everyone
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>>740145247
More games should do this.
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>>740139892
The man who wants realism in his game is not the man who wants bikini armor in his game.
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>>740139892
With shitty jokes like this, no wonder liberals don't want children
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>>740140801
because he's not a flaming faggot, unlike you
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>>740139892
Friendly reminder that muslims and thirdworlders now have access to the internet, and their backwards views make a large volume of internet opinions you read, especially vocal opinions on women.
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>>740139892
>bottom right
Literally no one says this.
>>740140572
Based.
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>>740139892
Are Americans still upset about Dragon's Crown?
LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>740145247
Save the rainforest!!
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>>740139892
There's no need to justify enjoying sexy female characters because the people who complain about them aren't looking to be convinced.
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>>740139892
One on the top is a normal girl and a black creature in heavy armor who shouldn't exist in a historical medieval setting.
One on the bottom is a demigod who is fighting orcs and goblins in a hentai game
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I liked Dark Awake because it had bikini armor.

Does any non-Korean fighting game have bikini armor?
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Racism is good. It's okay to be racist.
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>>740150007
Racism is a fallacy, it's intellectually dishonest to be racist.
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>>740146683
>There were more people from Northern Africa and Middle-East in Medieval Europe than you think.
That part is correct, Persian trade was a big thing and Moors had a big presence in Portugal and Spain.
But those aren't black.
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>>740139892
>top
Fantasy, but fantasized by people who wish women were men, and men were women

>bottom
Fantasy, but fantasized by people who understand that fantasy is meant to be fun, appealing or cool
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my story can be bland and boring but it can't lack a spearchucker
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>>740147501
Well you see stereotypes are bad unless we do them.
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>>740139952
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>>740140260
Black Hitler will never not be funny to me
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>>740150121
>these two birds were once the same but evolved differently despite living just a couple of miles apart on different islands in the same climate
>humans across the globe are the exact same and unchanging
while also
>jail is a literal torture sentence that changes people for their entire lives
>muhgubu who has personally lit people on fire with tires around their necks, cant read, has never been able to take a walk without violence lingering in every direction, and cons others at every given opportunity, just needs a warm, safe place to sleep and he'll blend in to english culture seamlessly
racism is the only honest position.
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>>740140043
First thats not true because a lot of characters dont even wear armor
And second as other anon's said, its simply pleasing. We dont want to look at eye cancer
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>>740141764
Correct, two small suspensions is infinitely worse than one gigantic one. Lots of little lies shows that you have no respect for the reader, for the narrative or setting you're weaving, and no talent to make a world that feels whole and respects verisimilitude. One big lie treats the invented world as a real place with real consequences that must be respected.
If in any way you think the former is better than the latter you should stop opining on media immediately
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>>740149123
You are a faggot
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>>740150923
>makes a fallacy twice
>still thinks racism is honest
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>>740139892
Didn't read i jorkee to the bottom left panel
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>>740139892
I like how the artist think incels own a couch and a tv and not just a pc and a matress.
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>>740151115
whats the fallacy?
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>>740145440
>Women make up over 50 percent of the gaming fanbase
Candy crush and farmville aren't games
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>>740145247
I want a gf like that
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>>740139892
>4th panel
Expect no one does that.
It's not about the inaccuracies, it's about why they're making them.
Adding inaccuracies to make faggots stop crying about insignificant shit like not being able to relate to characters is dumb and bad.
Adding inaccuracies to make guy's dicks hard is based and good.
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>>740151172
First is false equivalence, not only that but
>>humans across the globe are the exact same and unchanging
Nobody argues that we vary in traits, what is being stated is that we are still the same species(Homo Sapien).

Second is hyperbole + hasty generaliztion based around immigrant hysteria
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>>740150121
What's the fallacy?
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>>740151547
>Nobody argues that we vary in traits
People absolutely do, blank slate is predicated on the idea that the entirety of a person is nurture and rejects that you have specific traits built in. Blank slate bullshit is the foundation of modern idiocy like universal suffrage
>second is hyperbole
tell me you live a sheltered life
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>>740151547
>Nobody argues that we vary in traits
Fucking racist much?
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>Epstein, the free market capitalist, would want people to be seething closed borders racists who constantly crash the stock market and shit all over world traders because... He just wants so OK?
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>>740151547
>vary in traits
Like intelligence or affinity to violence, perhaps? You retards run straight into this trap every time you concede that people can have differing traits. Might as well dig your heels in and say we are all the same at that point.
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>>740139892
If you are going to bitch about being "historically accurate" women shouldn't be wearing armor period, let alone going on adventures. The historic accurate women uniform is something like this.
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>>740151547
>what is being stated is that we are still the same species(Homo Sapien).
Bullshit shlomo, you always claim "there is only one race, the human race", you pretend that biology classifications that work perfectly for every single lifeform on Earth don't work for humans because Hitler.
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>>740143693
Dragons dogma
FFXIV
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>>740139892
>left
>proper maymayinh
Choose only one.
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>>740149162
Ah, so men DON'T need armor to survive sword hit.
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>>740140043
We don't.
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Yes
Guys should look cool and do cool things and just be cool regardless
Females exist to look sexy so my penis gets hard
Anything otherwise is a jewish influenced subcreature.
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>>740145247
nice bush
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>>740151865
Doesn't it feel great to drop all pretense and simply admit you hate niggers and women? None of this much woke shit pathetic excuses that you're shitting out.
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>>740151661
>People absolutely do
Nobody seriously argues this, genetic disabillities and neurological conditions like down syndrome and autism are the most obvious indicators of this.
>tell me you live a sheltered life
You're commiting a generalization fallacy otherwise it's okay and valid for me to say that all white people are gay pedophiles.

>>740151856
>You retards run straight into this trap every time you concede that people can have differing traits
This is not a trap nor is this a gotcha, people having different traits based on genetics is a fact. This is not an excuse however to justify racism since even withtin the same racial group there are still many differing traits and inclinations, you can have people of the same ethnic group have differing levels of intelligence or differing levels of aggression or differing levels of physical ability and so on.

For example not every white person is on the same physical level as cyclist Lance Armstrong, nor is every japanese person is on the same level as Ichiro Suzuki.
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>>740151547
This is the classic
>differences DO exist but they can only be positive!
Fallacy.
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>>740152118
>You feel anger towards this murderer
>Therefore all the verified undeniable evidence of his guilt you've brought forward can be safely discarded
Total Leftist Death.
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>>740152274
Good goy.
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>>740139952
fpbp
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>>740146683
You're literally doing the first thing, good job.
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>>740152097
Thats just a man with tits and a pussy tho
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>>740152118
>>740152152
You agree with the racist position already. But you have to try to strawman it to make yourself feel less racist lmao.
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>>740152152
always amazed at the inability to zoom into whats being talked about correctly.
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>>740148596
They made glorified canoes and rafts.
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>>740152386
>>740152398
Continuously proving that racism is intellectual dishonesty
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>>740152152
There is nothing wrong with generalization. And no, saying "all white people are gay pedophiles" is not the same thing as saying "Arabs are much more likely to be violent criminals". You anti-racism idiots just don't understand statistics.

Also, even if racism is wrong, it is still against your own interest not to be racist. That's because others are racist whether it makes sense or not. Any group of people that isn't racist will just be a sucker for the others to take advantage of.

Also, racism isn't even a properly defined term. It means whatever people need it to mean in the situation.
But arguing with a redditnigger who thinks fallacies are some magical rhetorical gotcha is pointless anyway.
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>>740139892
Top is gay as fuck. Bottom is based as fuck.
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>>740152425
there is no stereotype of the tall, blonde haired asian who cant do math.
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>>740152152
Is it a fact that Europeans have a wider variety of hair and eye color? Is it true that many East Asians lack a gene to create body odor? If these can be true, then what are the limits of racial traits? Is it limited to only physical traits? Would it not instead be more plausible that this is also true of mental traits as well? Isn't it accepted fact that certain races are more likely to be predisposed to schizophrenia? Or are you going to be dishonest the whole way down?
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>>740152425
This is just cope on your end.
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>>740152426
"Racist" doesn't mean shit, just like "familyist" doesn't mean shit. Contrary to what jews say, it's not a weird mental illness to want to only have your own race in your country, nor to not want someone else's kid to live at your house under the pretense that "well he's got better grades than your son, so replace him right now". We don't need criteria or justification, any racial foreigner can fuck off right this instant, no excuses accepted.
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>>740139892
I want what my dick like.
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>>740139892
apparently, this was good bait
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>>740145440
50% of "gamers" are normalniggers playing Candy Crush and other mobile time wasters.
They are not the demographic that plays fantasy RPGs on a PC. Those people would rather jump off a bridge than touch icky nerd games.
You are a Redditor.
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>>740139892
Man, I do not give a fuck. Not wasting my money on video games with ugly bland females taking up more than 1% of the game time.
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>>740145440
>retarded opinion
>it's a tripfag
Why I am not surprised?
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>>740140037
>The guy in the comic is homosexual
The comic is clearly written by a woman, given her complete inability to think the way a man would. Incidentally, a woman who never had a father, which makes men's minds even more incomprehensible to her due to her total lack of contact with them, except for the handful of desperate men who told her everything she wanted to hear just to get her into bed and then disappeared the next day.
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>>740149123
You are buying a noose.
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>>740152426
>There is nothing wrong with generalization
Generalization is wrong because it means you're already forming biases towards an individual based on preconceieved notions about them. You're right that saying "all white people are gay pedophiles" isn't the same thing as saying "Arabs are much more liekly to be violent criminals." but you didn't say the latter, you straight up gave a hyperbole based around immigrant hysteria. What would be the point of being racist if you acknowledge that there are arabs who aren't violent criminals? You would have to judge people as individuals.

>>740152552
>Would it not instead be more plausible that this is also true of mental traits as well? Isn't it accepted fact that certain races are more likely to be predisposed to schizophrenia?
Yeah nigga, I gave autism as an example in the same post you're replying to. Schizophrenia is a neurological condition too.
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>>740150007
Racism is cope for weak & gullible jackasses; opening a gate of self doubt & hypocrisy with nothing going for their own race to justify their self worth other than skin color.
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>>740148548
Full on nudity is rare outside of real sex porn, and "barely covers" can mean bikinis and other things of similar nature, and also even traditional paintings like those got ogled and were even called smut by puritans
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>>740153075
How is
>people having different traits based on genetics
NOT a generalization, or a conclusion based on generalizations in the first place?
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>>740153138
>cope for weak & gullible jackasses; opening a gate of self doubt & hypocrisy with nothing going for their own race to justify their self worth other than skin color.
That's what "anti-racism" is for.
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>>740141764
>What if BMW 328i with optional heated seats came earlier than irl
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>>740153409
So your racism is absolute?
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>>740153075
So you would not include intelligence nor propensity to commit acts of violence as neuological conditions? If you are to concede that neurological conditions can be more prevalent in certain races, then it must also be the case that other parts of the psyche and mind can be as well. Absolute dishonest argumentation, which is why no one should ever listen to the bullshit you niggers ever spew from your gullet. You may as well just say you think
>wasicm is mean :((((
and call it a fucking day instead of trying to weasel out some intellectual argument you can't even articulate well.
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>>740153595
No, my justice is filthy NINGEN
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>>740153075
this is unironically the shit that gets people killed. there is nothing good about turning off the self preservation and pattern recognition parts of your brain in order to not be racist.
>What would be the point of being racist if you acknowledge that there are arabs who aren't violent criminals? You would have to judge people as individuals.
i have to do no such thing and it keeps me safer to do so. Contrary to the belief, the absolute majority of racists can tell you the second that switch flipped and most people who are racist arent virulent gun toting retards screaming go back to your own country
when they see someone brown. its people who say they want to move to a nice area and dont want to go to the city after 10pm on saturday because its dangerous.
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>>740139892
no one defends bikini armor by logic. they defend it cause women are meant to be objectified. Stupid retard faggot. Thread hidden with no stub
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>>740153663
Explain how you derive that certain populations on earth express certain "traits" without generalizations. These are your words btw. Or are you just saying that you didn't actually mean the things you said?
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>>740146224
>I like women
Look at this homosexual gaywad
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>>740139892
>This isn't hot
>This is hot
There ya go
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>>740139892
arguments are invalid if they are reversible
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>>740147532
>>740148554
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>>740139892
>have female in a dress
>slap on armor in a lazy mishmash
I'll take full armor and bikini armor over half-assed shitty designed armor
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>>740154013
I wish women were real.
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>>740154013
GIWTWM
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>>740153648
>So you would not include intelligence nor propensity to commit acts of violence as neuological conditions
Not classed as neurological conditions, but those are things affected by genetic factors no differently than anything else this isn't anything new nor is this specific to any single race. Yes certain races are more predisposed towards certain inclincations but this is not effectively the same as saying, for example, that most white people are pedophiles.
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>>740147220
Even medical studies are facing the replication crisis



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