Games where you can save the world from the disease of communism?
>>740151008Red Alert, of course you can also spread the terrors of communism in that game. But it's all B movie schlock tier, which just adds to the entertainment.
no one will remember the glowie who made this image, but marx's legacy will continue to inspire class struggle until the class war is won.
>>740151008Littlebigplanet
>>740151008>two more weeksWhatever you say anon
>>740151075>>740151129Marx didn't account for biological and chemical weapons
Marx had hidradenitis suppurativa so he was based
>>740151068Where do I get started with it?
>>740151219Marx didn't account for a lot of things, like basic human nature.
>>740151008Most world war 2 and cold war games, I guess. At least if you can play as Germany or start world war 3 after winning world war 2.
marx seems like a really nice guy compared to trumptrump took away my college fasfa, at least marx would have let me make videogames
>>740151008Communism is a recognized system by the world, with multiple countries practicing it.Fascism and Nazism aren't.
>>740151008>Anti communists edgy quotesBased!>Communists edgy quotes Lol, cringeReminder that right wingers believe in nothing.
Max Stirner mogged Marx philosophically.
>>740151219or basic human nature, kind of a critical oversight
>>740151341Marx was honestly just kind of a weeb.The people he opposed were genuinly fucking evil. I mean, he lived in Germany. Your average German monarch has the morality of Joffrey from Game of Thrones.
>>740151068Is it even feasible for a Red Alert 4 to exist, like ignoring the financial and gameplay, just being able to tell a story like Red Alert in this climate?
>>740151418Communists:>"Humans are selfish but this can be overcome by class solidarity.">Capitalists>"Humans are selfish and nothing should be done to stop this and it should be encouraged for people to do this as much as they want."Odd argument, frankly.
>>740151379Sounds like edge isn't the deciding factor in whether something is based or communist(cringe)
>>740151427So true sister. Peak media litteracy
>>740151479In order to transcend as a species, we must first unite as a species. One half of humanity elevating above the need for violence & evil just means they'll be trampled by the other half.
>>740151443>just being able to tell a story like Red Alert in this climate?Red Alert 1 is frankly probably the most ridiclous since we now know the USSR was never a real threatand also they were right.Everything else would work just fine though. Over the top parodies of anti communism have always been popular even with communists.
>>740151510Correct. It's if you agree with something.>>740151520>Peak media literacyI'm talking about real history.Read about the 30 year war and then look me in the eyes and honestly say "German monarchs deserve to exist". If you can do it, it's only because there isn't anything behind the eyes.
>>740151527>we must first unite as a species. Agree. That is actually the fundamental flaw of communism.
Marx was a visionary and people cope and seethe about him to this day
>>740151479It can't be overcome. Biology is biology, intellect can mitigate but people are people.
>>740151479He's right though. Greed is a natural part of the human condition, and has yet to be defeated.A system that recognizes this and uses greed to the benefit of humanity will be far more resilient than one that seeks to deny it.
>>740151479Communists:>let's give the government full control of our lives
>>740151625Few philosophers can claim a death toll in the billions with nothing to show for it.
>>740151427This, imperialists in his time were fucking evil. They still are but they kind of chilled out when Soviet Union was a thing.
>>740151068really love hammed up depictions of both nazis and soviets.
Under capitalism, you are oppressed by the bourgeoisie. But under communism, you are owned by the Commune. If the Commune controls all property, regulates all labor, and dictates all distribution, the individual is left entirely at its mercy.
>>740151290You could start with Red Alert 1, but that was before Westwood decided to move away from the more "grounded" setting it started with. I put grounded in quotes because the entire premise hinges on Albert Einstein creating time travel and deleting Hitler from existence, but that left a power gap that the Soviets took advantage of to invade Europe instead. But that's all background fluff, Red Alert 2 is where the series really gets its look, feel, and general tone that it kept for future installments...and to break away from the Tiberian Universe the main CnC games had. I think you can still get that on EAs origin website if that's still a thing or Good old Games.
>>740151290by playing the game bro
>>740151698Case in point. Retards feel the need to lie about him to this day.
>>740151479The elite want to kick you into the dirt either way, communists want to give them governmental power (don't give me that shit about being stateless you know that shit doesn't work) to kick you while you are down, hyper capitalists want the government to give corporations power to kick you while you are down, and libertarians want nobody to have the power to stop you from rising up to being elite(also doesn't work in practice). Nobody is going to provide a different solution. No merchant guild systems or whatever the fuck. Theres never going to be post-scarcity. Some group or another is going to use AI as their new ass-fucking machine and we're all too busy fighting a culture war that was started by the elite fearing occupy wall street, and tumblr breaking containment.We're all fucking doomed.
>>740151628People can be more than simple animals because fundamentally we don't act the way we do in the stone age anymore. If you disagree then that is simply weakness on your part. >Biology is biology,Evolution is a part of biology. >>740151690>A system that recognizes this and uses greed to the benefit of humanityI would love to see that system. Because capitalism doesn't do anything but encourage greed for the sake of greed.
>>740151443It's a bit cold for this time of year, but other than that nothing's wrong with modern climate. >oh no some retard on bluesky wrote he won't buy the game because it isn't accurate to his delusional worldviewIt won't be made because there are much fewer good writers in the industry
>>740151732capitalism as communists define it doesnt exist, and they dont view being under the commune as "communism" so its perfectly fine that they make a fascist hellhole that falls apart.
>>740151008Communism >>>>>> capitalism
genebombs when?culturebombs when?
>>740151736You don't really need to lie about Marx to know he was a piece of shit. Reading about the man will do that.
>>740151698>Few philosophers can claim a death toll in the billions with nothing to show for it.>Jesus Christ>Budha>Confucius >SocratesPretty much all of them do.
>>740151008It's pretty hard to take American anti-communism seriously when America now just goes around blowing up schools and raping global trade
Do commie video games even exist?Usually most vidya jus criticizes capitalism and have some evil company as the antagonist but that's it
>>740151826These all have things to show for it, resonating throughout history and up to the current day in the case of Confucius.
>>740151772>Nobody is going to provide a different solution.Decentralization, unironically. The issue with elites is the power they wield, not that they exist. >Theres never going to be post-scarcityThat's might be incorrect. It's hard to say though.
isn't it too early in the morning to state unironic unironic Marxist platitudes and misidentify modern society in order to further your "educated" mindset (which in case you missed it, survives on a lack of understanding)how do commies cope with the history that communes have in america? you can literally make one if you want
>>740151851Disco Elysium
>>740151293>b-b-but le basic human nature!
>>740151859>These all have things to show for it, Like?
>>740151364and every one of those countries is an impoverished shithole >>740151379I believe Hitler was right about everything
>>740151835Oops I see you are trying a new system>sactions you and assassinates your leaderHaha looks like it doesn’t workDemograzee :DDD
>>740151873>how do commies cope with the history that communes have in america?Religion is a point of weakness, not strength. >>740151859Name them.>Inb4 Empire existsChina is communist and a empire.
>>740151782>Because capitalism doesn't do anything but encourage greed for the sake of greed.Counter-intuitively, that is why nations that practice it are so successful.
>>740151921>They don't just weld your apartment doors and watch you slowly die over the next few weeks?
>>740151838Where do you place Stirner?
unironically Disco Elysium. Every communist in that game is so fucking retarded it physically hurts. When you go against them it feels real good
>>740151628biologically we are a very social and cooperative species. any human being who lives today does so partially based on the work of others. our clothes, food, furniture, tools, etc. are made possible by other people we've never met. if kept above a minimum of desperation we aren't even that violent, like some animals attack automatically in certain situations we don't and we also work together to create ways of detaining those who are defective in that sense. the natural state of man in nature if you go back to the stone age isn't a rugged individual, it's not a nuclear family, its groups of 20-30 individuals working together and sharing in common.
>>740151290Red Alert 2 is fine, you don't need that much context. Red Alert 1 is freeware (as is C&C1+Tib Sun) and you can download it with a google pretty easily. You can buy the remastered version off Steam and it's fine. They released the rest of the series there too recently. The original Red Alert was meant to be a prequel to the first C&C game but they made it a different universe in RA2.
>>740151008I consider communists more respectable than those anarchist babies with their gay little red and black flag
>>740151878I get that the devs are commies but the game really doesn't portray communism in a positive lightEven the main baddie is a commie
>>740151939>that is why nations that practice it are so successful.No? Successful capitalist nations were successful before capitalism. England was a bit of a backwater, but it wasn't some insanely impoverished third world country. France was always the leading power of Europe. Even South Korea and West Germany was always the richer half.
>>740151838Move Marx, Engels, and Gramsci down 3 tiers and it's correct. Freud could go to the top, in his own, strangely incestual way, but at least he tried to actually help people.
Did Marx ever have a fucking job?
>>740152009It portrays it accurately and is not "marx executed 5 gorillions" that we usually get.
>>740151990No way. Human civilization couldn't exist without walls separating us. Goods are nice but can be attained just as well through slavery or, more recently, the internet and AI, completely eliminating the need for cooperation.
>>740152003>Red Alert 1 is freeware (as is C&C1+Tib Sun) and you can download it with a google pretty easily. You can buy the remastered version off Steam and it's fine. They released the rest of the series there too recently. The original Red Alert was meant to be a prequel to the first C&C game but they made it a different universe in RA2.Technically it is still canon since the Soviet ending seems to actually be a set up for C&C 1. While red Alert 2 follows up on the Allied ending (Fucking dumb as that might be).
>>740151418Communism is the abolition of private property. There are already existing examples of primitive civilizations that held property collectively. Communists seek to apply collective ownership to industrial capital. The actual issues with communism are the difficulty in coordinating an industrial economy (this does not apply to market socialism, but Marx was not a market socialist) and an incentive problem, since in the actually existing socialist societies the state essentially acted as the capitalist, bureaucrats set wages for both workers and managers. The workers and managers had no actual stake in the state run enterprises, and so gained no reward in seeing them succeed. Thus the famous saying "we pretend to work and they pretend to pay". Again, this is a problem with command economies and is not present in market socialism (obviously I am biased in favor of market socialism, but that's not to say there are no legitimate criticisms of that system either).If you want to argue against communism, there are plenty of historical failures you can point to. Every single Marxist-Leninist society failed to deliver on their promises to the workers. "Basic human nature", however, is just propagandistic nonsense.
>>740152052being a published author and being an editor are jobs
>>740152052YeahHe was a journalist
>>740152052Fleetingly, he never kept one consistently and had to constantly beg for money from his father and friends. The only reason he even came to his own fathers funeral was for inheritance, and didn't go to his mothers death when she called him out for his shit behavior and stopped giving him money.
>>740151427your post is so retarded. do you even know what a weeb is? Plus, Game of Thrones is a cynical nihilistic television show, not real life. You cannot extract and apply data from television to real life, it is fundamentally fake data.anyway, chew on this;marx was a jew, lenin was a jew, trotsky was a jewRothschilds, richest German banking family; jews(Marx was allegedly related to them)Epstein, real life supervillain financier and blackmailer JEWor you could keep kicking the dead horse of German monarchs.. As if monarchy is the only alternative to communism? and as if the Germans themselves weren't willing to fight a 2-front war last century in the name of combating Communism? My point being, that I think the Germs themselves would know what rule they found preferable. (anything but communism)
>>740152084>Human civilization couldn't exist without walls separating usHuman civilization existing is literally dependent on those walls coming down.
>>740152052He was Engels' pet philosopher, which was a job back in the day.
>>740152091>The workers and managers had no actual stake in the state run enterprises,A market economy with democratically run companies would be the best system, frankly.
>>740152084in other words you are a cancer on humanity. ok.
>>740152012South Korea, Japan, and Taiwan were impoverished shitholes
>>740152182Democratically run companies...so something like a board of directors? That vote on what the company should do? Don't we already do this?
>>740151921>lefty thread>wumao is herehow's life in chinese jail ?>>740152009you never asked it to be portrayed in good light.Atomic heart is set is soviet russia too in case you're wondering, then there's that new one in dev named "ill".there's one vietnamese FPS set during the indochina war, you play as a NVA soldier.there's the soviet city builder which is pretty good but quite tedious, i forgot the name.and that's it AFAIK
>>740152153Many philosophers going all the way back to antiquity relied on wealthy patrons to support them though
>>740152212Yes and they were built up as bulwarks against Soviet Union/China.
>>740152153How can you understand philosophy if you don't know how to be an adult and support yourself?
>>740152276So they were women.
>>740152308If he didn't starve and had time to write, the hustle was working
>>740152131> do you even know what a weeb is?Yes.>Plus, Game of Thrones is a cynical nihilistic television show, not real life. Okay? Then they were all Hitler tier tyrants. Just fundamentally evil inbred people. >marx was a jew, lenin was a jew, trotsky was a jewYeah? They were correct German monarchs were pure evil. Don't fault the Jews in the USSR for murdering the Romanovs either. >real life supervillain financierLol? He's a evil fucker but a supervillain? Trump is a supervillain. Hitler was a suppervillain. Epstein was just kind of a dudebro. I know like twenty people like him, the only difference being a lack of power. >or you could keep kicking the dead horse of German monarchs.My country still has one. >and as if the Germans themselves weren't willing to fight a 2-front war last century in the name of combating Communism?They had to be tricked into it by a evil man under the pretense of doing a massive genocide in East Europe for the sake of living space and prosperity. > My point being, that I think the Germs themselves would know what rule they found preferable.Considering who they picked they were objectively wrong. Some people lack the ability to choose, Germans first and foremost.
>>740152317have you ever seen a philosopher work an actual job ?me neither.
>>740151571Very impressive it seems you've read a lot of pop history and wikipedia articles about the subject matter, and the Game of Thrones reference is on point. You're a beacon of hope to marxists everywhere.
>>740151075Wasn't he a literal basement dwelling NEET who got buried in a private cemetery?
>>740151921what the FUCKfree tibetuygher genocideumbrella movementj-22 designer disappearing gacha slavery
>>740152237>.so something like a board of directors? No. Basically workers own company shares and get a direct input through voting in how a country was run.
>>740151008>their turn What turn? Communism exists to weaken a system so another one can take over, after which the communist radicals that helped overthrow the previous regime are disposed of
>>740152254>there's the soviet city builder which is pretty good but quite tedious, i forgot the name.Workers & Resources?
>>740152254>soviet city builderThe game is alright but couldn't call it commieI mean my people were pretty much all alcoholics lolBut yeah Atomic Heart was pretty much soviet propagandaNot that it's a bad thing
>>740152276I didn't say it was a bad thing. Philosophy doesn't pay and takes lots of effort.
>>740151364Communist countries end up doing the same shit everyone hates fascism for.Genuinely no reason it shouldn't be just as, if not more, vilified by anyone with common sense.
>>740152365>Pop historyLol. Point me to all of the pop history about the 30 year war.>Wikipedia articlesProjection.>Game of ThronesAs a point of comparison, especially considering you clearly have zero understanding of history. Could just go for Hitler, Dong Zhou, or King John if you want.
>>740152085That's just something people conclude purely due to the inconsistency. Westwood considered having Yuri being a Nod follower who creates the RA2 universe in their version of C&C3 just to explain it
>>740151443Not really. Its the same reason the Terminator movies dont land right anymore. The cultures moved on and the red scare isnt remotely relevent anymore.You could do China vs. EU maybe but China are a boring faction without much room for fun. Generals did it well.Lets not pretend RA3 was remotely good. Outside of the lords of sexy Tim Curry and Richard Simmons in cutscenes the game was ass. They even made Tanya a blond. Treason.
>>740152212No? They were very wealthy for most of their history. Even Taiwan was noted as being somewhat of a personal project for Imperial Japan
>>740151921Yeah inatead you get locked in your 15sqft covid apartment
>>740151628In a decentralized economic system, every person would have their own selfish incentive to maintain the system, since they would be receiving more wealth than if the bourgeois still existed. The only people who would have an incentive to reintroduce private property would be those involved in managerial/intellectual labor, but since they are a minority and would be beholden to the votes of the rest of the workers, they would not be a concern. Private property would still probably need to exist for small scale firms, so that they could be able gain capital in the first place, and so people would have the freedom to open a small business, but mass production would still be handled collectively, and collective management could slowly be introduced as more employees are hired, like a more extreme version of codetermination laws in Germany. Due to economies of scale, the collectively owned large firms would always outcompete the smaller firms.The old state run model of socialism was a complete failure and so should be completely rejected.You might think democray in the workplace is a bad idea, but it would really work out much better than political democracy. People know much more about their own workplace than they do running a country. Sorry if this post is disorganized, I am going to sleep soon.
>>740152481They're closely related ideologies, spawned from a discontent of the liberalism that came out of the french revolution. Mussolini and his guys were communists and basically wanted communism with a culture war instead of a class war.
>>740151293He accounted for envy. He taught people it's okay to kill because you're envious.
>>740152371you are trained like a dog to bark all these little digs and I bet you've never even read him. I think programmed zombies like you are sad. people hold up a picture of marx and on reflex you go "bark bark private cemetary". you don't think there's anything off about being a product of a society that programmed you to know this trivia to recite while also ensuring you don't know or understand anything he wrote?
>>740152502>Not really. Its the same reason the Terminator movies dont land right anymore.Terminator doesn't land right anymore because they made two movies that basically did everything they could with the concept and then ended in a way that really left no more room for sequels.
>>740152594What poverty? Poverty almost doesn't even exist in the 21st century. China got hundreds of millions out of poverty through capitalism.>>740152574>im not a sheep ur the sheep! u were programmed to say that!!Yikes.
>>740152574>No actual argumentsI accept your concession.
Kek there is a seething Brazilian tankie in here
>>740152704>What poverty?Even London has insane levels of poverty. >China got hundreds of millions out of poverty through capitalism.Communism.
>yeah, fight the power!>marx: never relinquish your guns>nooooo, we need to ensure the government has a monopoly on violence! Commies are retarded.
Oh shit we have actual commies in this thread lol
>>740151812Explain the difference (you can't)
>>740152704>>740152729my argument is that you don't refute marx, you just recite talking points you have been programmed with. That's a valid argument, it's the truth too.
>>740152691Raising life expectancy & income and eliminating homelessness & unemployment is pretty easy when you kill literally tens of millions and imprison people for not having a job. (Yes, Stalin literally had civilians gulag'd if they weren't being productive enough).>>740152732>Communism.Nope. Communism in China pretty much died around the 80s after Deng came in, coincidentally that's also when the poverty rates drastically decreased.
>>740151008IRL already did that, thank God>ask no compassion from youFucking bullshit
>>740152826>Communism died>No I can't prove how.
>>740152732>Best version of communism is just worse capitalism
>>740151075You lost aleady in 1991: peak communism came and gone before you were born.
>>740152732Communism is what put them in poverty, retard.
>>740152826we have a higher percent of our population in prison in the US now than the USSR ever did. just admit you're a sheep
>>740151008Why do jews hat communism so much? Like I get it, the last thing international bankers and the billionaire epstein class would want is accountability to the people. but sending their bootlickers to demonize it makes it more appealing.
>>740152826Communism killed 100 mio christians in russia, get your facts straight
>>740152691Command economies work for developing countries, they run into trouble with the more complex economies of developed countries. The party also became too insular and incestuous after Lenin purged the left-coms. Maybe if the economy and political system hadn't been so centralized, the country would not have been able to be destroyed by idiots like Brezhnev and then raped and privated by perestroika. Maybe they would have been able to actually deliver on the promise of "factories for the workers, farms for the farmers". They certainly improved living standards, but so do succdems. It was still a failed revolution.
>>740152704Is this not poverty in the richest nation? Next you will recommend moving to a tin can and eating beans and rice.All this time the line has gone up and regular people don't have a thousand dollars amount in savings. Not to mention all the disease modern life has brought, the environment destroyed, all the traditional ways of living destroyed.
>>740152903That's because brown people commit a shit load of crime.
>>740152889*Better capitalismAnd yes.>>740152902Ah yes, nationalist China. Famous for it's wealth and prosperity.
>>740151809Neither capitalism nor communism exist in any meaningful way, they are memes from the 18th and 19th century. You are never going to find a truly capitalist society with a minimalist night-watchman state because that shit doesn't work and cannot compete with other more proactive states.You are never going to find a truly communist society because stateless, moneyless, classless society cannot exist in any realistic sense which is why all "communist" nations turn into authoritarian shitholes.
>>740151838people should seriously stop putting peterson alongside other legitimate modern philosophers even as a joke this guy wrote nothing of note
>>740152903Yeah, it's called niggers.
>>740152879Literally read any history or ask any Chinese boomer you fucking retard.Deng got the country out of their retarded experiment and they were rewarded plentifully for it.
>>740152913>Communism killed 100 mio christians in russia, get your facts straightThis figure is always so funny. >"Remember to 100 gorillion!">Got any proof of that>Why, the internet told me, and no one lies on the internet.
>>740152962Only in the USA. almost as if the problem is the USA.
>>740152904Because they don't like regular people actually having power in their lives.
>>740152879Maybe the fact that most of the economy is privately owned, you retard. Occasionally executing a CEO does not make them communist. They have a mixed economy.
>>740152607Also true but automation and robotics was a real issue in the 80' like AI and datacentres are today.It was in societies imagination at the time. If T2 released today it woudnt have had remotely the same impact on people.In the 2000's it was modern Russia and Blackrock/PMCsIn the 2010's it was Muslims and le terrorism.Modernity is I guess 1%ers, corruption and civil war? To be real I checked out years ago and just watch and play old stuff...
>>740151713SU was imperialist itself...
>>740152964But I've seen all those chinese tik toks of big cities with lots of lights!
>>740151075National Socialism fixed every issue the working class ever had, and didn't require any genocide (inb4 26 millions jews turned into soap or 64 millions jews burned alive by the Romans, yes those things were actually claimed as real by jews). If you care about the workers, there is objectively no reason you'd ever be a commie instead of NS after seeing what Hitler accomplished.
>>740153004Commies killed half their population, this was all marx's fault!!
>>740152993Russia has Chechens
>>740152964Mao's china was communist, yes. And he's the one that put everyone into poverty or a grave.
>>740152991>importing 10 gazillion niggers is centrist guysLmaooooo
>>740152962programmed response, you are instilled with racism to keep you down sheep.
God this board sucks
>>740151812History has proven the opposite. You lost the cold war.
Communism is bad and no amount of cope will change that.
>>740152996>Literally read any historyI did.It's still a communist country. >>740153019>Maybe the fact that most of the economy is privately ownedOkay? About 40% of the total economy is owned by the state and the state largely holds final sway over any decision made in the private sector. >They have a mixed economy.By that logic literally everybody runs a mixed economy.
>>740151075Marx was a literal fucking bum Redditor who never worked a day in his life, lived on handouts from his family, and had the gall to respond to a grieving letter from Friedrich Engels about his dead wife with "so can you give me gibs?"
>>740153006The UK has a massive problem with browns committing crimes. We just don't lock them up.
>>740153092>Why yes I'm jewish, how could you tellStill not dying for israel
Friendly reminder that communists have always been cringe redditers.
>>740153031>National Socialism fixed every issue the working class ever hadObviously.if you eradicate the working class and just turn them into outright slaves. They stop having issues.>and didn't require any genocide It required starting a war that killed 80 million people.
This pic forever BTFO's rightoids
It's crazy to think that commies used to be big burly hardened russian guys and now they are trans antifa twinks
>>740152385So what's to stop the workers from just voting to give themselves higher pay all the time at the expense of the end customer? Or deciding to vote to give themselves even more benefits just for working regardless of actual financial output to the company as a whole? Pure democracies don't work anymore than communism does when someone tries it out. Hell, democracy might be as bad when even the Greeks who came up with the idea quickly returned to a monarchy when the mob rule and chaos that spawned from trying democracy caused.
>>740153126Nigga the Soviet Union had a Jewish ethnostate oblaste, you are the jews lmao
>>740153063>And he's the one that put everyone into poverty or a grave.Before he came about, Nationalist China was famous for how rich everybody was. >>740153124>UKNo? The vast majority of crime, even per capita, is done by whites.
>>740152052Nope.>>740152098>being a published author and being an editor are jobsNope.
>>740153126communism is inherently jewish you retard
>>740153126Hey, remind me, what was one of the first laws enacted when the Bolshevik Revolution happened? Oh wait, I have it here>It is illegal to discriminate against Jews>Enacted by a party 90% comprised of Jews
CEOs all talk about us being replaced by AI but in the end it will be them. The AI will still need us to harvest the grain and build the shacks but they have no need for the managerial class
>>740151008remind me again why gommunism is so much worse than the current status quo of getting anal raped by a bunch of rich jewish pedos who only care about making everything objectively worse
>>740153165>So what's to stop the workers from just voting to give themselves higher pay all the time at the expense of the end customer?The fact that the company would collapse? Sustainability is a factor, far more so in a democratic system than the current autocratic golden parachute system we have. > Hell, democracy might be as bad when even the Greeks who came up with the idea quickly returned to a monarchy when the mob rule and chaos that spawned from trying democracy caused.The fuck you talking about? Most Greek states were democratizes until the day they were conquered or collapsed.
>>740153115based, never work
>>740153151>It required starting a war that killed 80 million people.Suuuuuure. Daily reminder the French lost vastly more civilians to their "allies" than to Germany.
>>740152756That show is so based. China makes great shit.>>740152913The Christian rebelion that was one of the most bloody conficts in human history? That was pre communism Im pretty sure?
>>740152979not what I meant.to a communist anything bad is "capitalism"the opposite (to them) of this is communismso they magically think that bad things cannot exist under communism because they "got rid of capitalism"
>>740153106>literally everyone runs a mixed economy YeahCompare them to the USSR, even during the years of the NEP private ownership was not nearly as prominent.For what it's worth, I think Xi Jingping is genuinely ideologically a communist, and is not bullshiting when he says he wants socialism by 2050. Problem is, he'll be dead by 2050. I have little faith in China.
>>740153252>Suuuuuure. 80 million people died.If Germany was invaded in 1933. Hitler and hte other Nazis were hanged. No war would have broken out. Furthermore the entire economics of Nazi Germany was build around looting and plundering Europe. That makes them guilty for every person who died during world war 2. A war they wanted.
>>740152102Crazy to think how many of the governments that use(d) his ideology would send him to a work camp for this.
>>740153243Because communism is rich jewish pedos making everything worse, while you are poor and starving.
>>740153185https://www.ethnicity-facts-figures.service.gov.uk/crime-justice-and-the-law/policing/number-of-arrests/latest/Why lie?
>>7401526911, its easy to achieve those numbers when your baseline is late imperial russia2, the SU collapsed on itself. You left out that tiny detail.
>>740153303>Compare them to the USSR, even during the years of the NEP private ownership was not nearly as prominent.It was a thing though. I don't even entirely disagree if you are genuinely consistent about it. But you are going to actually have to draw a line if you want to be taken seriously.
>>740153317>america is communist
>>740153159Big C Communists vs low t trotzkyites
when are we banning politics and culture war? they are doing more damage than little ponies
>>740153031hitler was more of a obama/biden style "lopsided recovery" with a lot of cheerleading. there was a recovery, part of it was because the whole world was recovering by the mid/late 30s from the depression so trade starts to improve, part of it was due to rearmament, but huge sectors of the economy (like textiles) were left to languish and twist in the wind. they spent some money on work creation, but it was earmarked by the last government and when that was spent that was it, but it wasn't anything near the level of what was done in other countries and they just propagandized and exaggerated how great it was to make it look like they were doing something. by the end of the decade it was like when the biden admin was compaining about "vibeanomics" where they want everyone to think the economies good even if it clearly sucks to most people, but in hitlers case if you said that too loud or protested you were arrested.
>>740153340>Arrest rateNot the same as crime rate. I can literally just use this as evidence that blacks are discriminated against.
>>740152019Freud was a sick kike.
Can both Nazis & Commies both fucking suck?
>>740153365Also, again, all of the spending was entirely depended on looting the rest of Europe. Without invading other countries they would have collapsed around 1940.
>>740153106>It's still a communist country. You're pulling a schrodinger's communism now. Whenever the transitional state fails and kills millions you say the true end state wasn't reached. When China prospers 40 years after escaping the transitional state you say it's communism. There's a class system. There's a huge wealth gap and a small group of elites. There's a private sector. There's a stock market. The state does not have ownership of all businesses. Competition exists. Unemployment exists. The government encourages this. If you think that's communism then man the definition must have really changed recently.
>>740153363This is not culture war but meat and potato issuesCulture war muh trannies muh jews muh chuds
>>740153393And this is different from any other psychologist...how?
>>740153004The original anon didn't say that tho. You are putting words in your opponent's mouth because you can't argue with their actual words
>>740153171Stalin did progroms to stop jewish influence. Meanwhile capitalists countries are banning the criticism of Israel and the further right wing america goes the more they're willing to die for israel, literally going to war on their behalf. Think about it for a sec. Jew are most known for wealth hoarding, yet you've somehow convinced yourself that their ultimate goal is to share their wealth? There's a reason Israel is a right wing nation.>>740153190>No no no you see the jews are known for giving away their money. Now trickly more wealth up to the top. Epstein's ultimate goal is nopt having enough money to rape little girls with impunity.Usefulest of bootlickers.>>740153207Hey remind me, what system of governance does Israel have, who are their allies, and what races are currently unable to breed due to capitalism's effects on their nation while their jewish populations grow?
>>740152948>>740152962Most Americans... hell most people from the current top countries are a lost cause. The brainwashing starts young and has pretty much been perfected over generations.You cant blame them personally as it really is programming. Humanity in its current form is fucked without another age of enlightenment.
>>740153403They both kind of suck but I would still take communism over Nazism in practise genuinly trying to wipe out all human civilization.
>>740153403Yes, but the commies won the war and have been working overtime to ensure no one recognizes that both came from the same ideological tree.
>>740153354Oh shit, sorry anon, I didn't know you starved to death.
>>740153243Because in Capitalism, you can choose to be anally raped. The real despair comes from the realization of the fact you're surrounded by idiots who would willingly choose being anally raped in the long term for a menial short-term comfort.
>>740153313>80 million people died.Yes, because of the war machine of the anglos, soviets and americans.>the entire economics of Nazi Germany was build around looting and plundering Europe.Insane jewish lie debunked countless times, Germany didn't even start any economic war preparations before 37, and remained vastly under the normal economic war preparations of England and the US. For years, Germany signed and respected a deal that prohibited them from even having more ships than one third of the British navy.>That makes them guilty for every person who died during world war 2>You're responsible for the cartels killing your family because you didn't want to be a slave your entire life>A war they wanted.Obvious jewish lie, Hitler always wanted an alliance with the anglos against communism, as communists were preparing to and did rape Europe, but they did so with the blessing of the anglos and the US.>>740153365>but it wasn't anything near the level of what was done in other countriesRandom wall of chatgpt tier bullshit. Too many shills to have a meaningful discussion because you'll keep making shit up to exhaust me, as you always do.
>>740152691YAAASSS Ʞomrade, slay!
>>740153126>hello fellow antisemitesNoone falls for this, bunkertrannie
>>740153384>I can literally just claim that they're arrested for racism and no other reason, with zero proofYou could, but that would be retarded. If you can provide conviction data, you would have. But you didn't, because lying is easier than providing proof.
>>740153430>Whenever the transitional state fails and kills millions you say the true end state wasn't reached. When China prospers 40 years after escaping the transitional state you say it's communism.No? Both are communism. I'm consistent.>There's a class system. There's a huge wealth gap and a small group of elites. There's a private sector. There's a stock market. The state does not have ownership of all businesses. Competition exists. Unemployment exists. The government encourages this. Most of these were true to some extent in the USSR. I think the overall effect of the USSR on Russia was good just like I think the overall effect of the CCP on China was good. Like I said, I'm very consistent. Yes, North Korea is communism as well.
>>740153190and capitalist nations are currently sucking off israel at the expense of their own people
>>740153403they are literally the same thing
>>740153185>even per capita, is done by whitesWhy make a lie so blatant?
>>740153430China is communist because the ruling party is the CCP and they have communist flag simple as
>>740153526Rightoids are more likely to die for israel
>>740153460>>No no no you see the jews are known for giving away their money>Bludimir GENUINELY thinks the government will give him free money under Communism
>>740151008Communism will always fail because it still thinks in bullshit that everyone need to work and that money is real.But at least it was a try to make something different. His biggest issue was also his biggest strength. He was a jew. He knew how evil they can be, but in the end this shit hindered himself.
>>740153171Stalin gave the jews some shitty, unsettled land in Siberia because they were getting pissy about not being allowed to move to Israel, and because Stalin wanted people to settle on the border with China. The place is only like 2% jewish now.
>>740153185>even per capitaBullshit.
>>740153512>Yes, because of the war machine of the anglos, soviets and americans.Nope. Entirely Germans.>Insane jewish lie debunked countless times,Look up mefo bills. >Germany didn't even start any economic war preparations before 3They started them as early as 1933. Rearmament was a core part of their ecenomic policy. >and remained vastly under the normal economic war preparations of England and the USLol? The USA had no military before world war 2. They didn't prepare for shit. >Germany signed and respected a deal that prohibited them from even having more ships than one third of the British navy.Germany focused on building a army, not a navy.>Hitler always wanted an alliance with the anglos against communismSo he wanted a war in which he would have killed millions upon millions of people.
>unironic tranny commies are still trying to shill their failed ideology here of all placesLOL
>>740153512i'm drawing from an actual book on the nazi economy, look up"wages of destruction" you lazy twit. like it's not my fault the nazi economy in your head didn't exist
>>740151008My problem with communism is their aesthetics are fucking garbage>people comrade this red fonts red flags hammer sickle red this red that comrade thatThat shit sucks
>>740153576It's really that shrimple
>>740153583Didn't two trannies die for illegals? Lmao. Shot dead like the lib pigs they are. Kek.
>>740153185>even per capita Retard-kun, per capita is literally the only number that matters. We're comparing different population sizes. Also you're lying.
>>740153531>You could, but that would be retardedNo? That's how stats work. >>740153564>Why make a lie so blatant?Because you fuckers love to exaggerate and push half truths. Even in the USA whites do the overwhelming amount of crime. You just ignore that because you don't think about crimes other than murder.
>>740153460>and what races are currently unable to breed due to capitalism's effects on their nation while their jewish populations grow?This fact will always drive me crazy.>Why is the white population on decline ever since we stopped increasing wages to funnel money to the top 1%?>White people: We can't afford children and are too smart to ruin our lives for them. Raise wages back to when a man could support a nuclear family on one salary>Ah, I see, It's because not enough money has gone to the 1%.. Elon Musk having 10 children trumps the the white raise having thousands and if you disagree you hate white people.
>>740153526tankies unironically want to nuke israel while /pol/tards are bending over backwards to justify trump being netanyahu's bitch
>>740153583Irrevelant to the point of you trying frame an ideology created by a jew as antisemitic.
>>740153576Much like North Korea is democratic.
>>740153659>Retard-kun, per capita is literally the only number that matters. >getting raped and murdered by a white personThis is okay.>Getting raped and murdered by a brown personThis is bad.And per capita whites do the majority of crime anyway.
>>740153667>that's how stats workNo, stats do not prove the arrest was due to racism.
>>740153460>Hey remind me, what system of governance does Israel haveThat would be American Serfdom.
>>740153460>capitalism doesn't allow people to breedYou might have a point, poor nations tend to have higher birthrates lmaoNow let's see which political faction promotes anti contraception and abortion...>but muh israellllI don't give a shit about Israel and how many shitskins they kill, the jews ruining your life are in the US and are certainly not right wing.
>>740153624>>740153615
>>740153679It's because white people don't want kids. Cope. >>740153708Arrests does not equal "total crimes done". If that was the case, you would be posting "Total crimes done".
>>740153497yes and in theory everyone could be a good little bug and communism would work. if your system immediately explodes the moment it has to deal with the average retard than its an inherently doom ideology
>>740153667>Even in the USA whites do the overwhelming amount of crimeThen it would be easy for you to post proof. And yet, you don't. To play devil's advocate, violent crime has a much more serious impact on society.
>>740153460I wish criticism of Israel was actually banned. Maybe you retards will shut the fuck up about it.
>>740153526I'm not an anti-semite. I'm fucking right. In a fair society no one descriminates based on religion. But the jews seek to dominate and because of useful retards we can't have the one system that forces humbles them. Look at libertarianism. Literally built by a jew angry the soviets took her shekels.
>>740153748Replace Jews with Nazis and this quote suddenly makes way more sense. All Hitler did was project his own nature onto others.
>>740151008I'm no communist I just want to kill rich people and their families.
>>740153679Children are cheap, poor people breed like rats.
>tfw watching tankies and LOLbertarians strangle each other over who's more jewishfeels good to be a socialist fenceshitter
>>740153807One of us
>>740153707>And per capita whites do the majority of crime anywLet's see those numbers. I want a .gov source.
>>740151443>just being able to tell a story like Red Alert in this climate?nope. they'd just make it a character story about how a young woman is getting empowered by communism and is the chosen one or some shit like that
Commies genuinely are a deranged people. You really can't talk any sense to them.
>>740153807Kill Hasan Piker.
>>740153805
>>740153805>no uLol
Video games taught me that commies are based
Unironically Civ5 when you can defeat the forces of communism with hitler's germany.
>>740153190>>740153460You are both wrong Marx himself was jewish. Communism was popular with working class and middle class jews because it is a universalist ideology, and because they recognized that the behavior and wealth hoarding of the jewish elites was a detriment to their race. That is the point of solidarity, unity among all working class people against all bourgeois elites, regardless if those elites share your race or if those workers are different from you. Marx even criticized jewish culture for being greedy, and suggested that this sort of culture would necessarily be destroyed by socialism.Please note I am paraphrasing what I have half-remembered. If you are actually interested, Marx wrote a letter called "On the Jewish Question" which describes his thoughts (and which today gets him accused of being a self-hating jew, lol).
>>740153871Heavy was a counter-revolutionary though, it was in one of the comics.
>>740153757>If that was the case, you wouldCurious, You're posting ZERO data. You also can't prove the arrests are due to racism.
>>740153426lol no. All germany did was tell the banks to go fuck themselves.
>>740153787>violent crime has a much more serious impact on society.No, it fucking doesn't. Systemic societal corruption has a actual impact on society. Murder happens. Rape happens. Theft happens. They are all bad but largely something you can control as a individual. Unless you get literally fucking bandits running around (Which was a overwhelming issue only when the country was majority white, btw) you don't have to worry about anything. >Then it would be easy for you to post proof. https://cde.ucr.cjis.gov/LATEST/webapp/#/pages/explorer/crime/crime-trend
Lol Lmao
I'm realising that the communist (or rather socialist / capitalism critical) crowd has really solid points, specifically the debt (usury) based financial system and the reversion to slavery to the small number of super rich banker gangsters and megafinanciers. What's pozzed about Communism is 1) it's solution to this system, which is just another form of financial hypercentralisation under the mask of a worker's state led by a Vanguard party, 2) its ideological hostility towards nationalism, race, religion, philosophy and private property, which have nothing to do with it's criticism of the Usury based landlord/moneylender financial system via private share-owned central banks, and 3) its fanatical ignorance of the Jewish question and the intrinsic Jewish nature of the Usury based financial institutions as well as their Jewish domination, built upon the very racism they claim to oppose, and this last point is likely because Communism and Marxism itself is Jewish and was championed by Jews.It's fascinating how legitimate criticisms of the financial system are exclusively for the blue haired brainwashed wokeists who have been raised to hate White people and live in a world of political correctness, whilst the conservative crowd mindbogglingly defend this financial system as it destroys Western countries and genocides their populations to the whims of lobbyists who hate White people or want cheap labour. It's like the Greens and Blues of Justinian's Rome which he used to diffuse the anger of the public, both sides of politics have a piece of the solution to the problem, but one is pozzed economically whilst the other is pozzed socially. There's no political solution made available to people which is critical of both the economy and the dispossession of White Europeans and the decline of Western culture, even though they are tightly linked.
>>740153679Affordability is not the issue with birth rates. It never was. People in India and subsaharan Africa still have 7+ children breeding like rabbits while they have no water to drink.The demographic shift is cultural because people don't want to spend resources to raise children they want to spend resources consuming luxuries and entertainment
>>740153871*russiansrussians are cool and based, and most of them also deeply hate communism
>>740153871Yet the whole world is capitalist. Funny that.
>>740153667>I lie because you (supposedly) lie>according to me, a lair, that isVermin. Thankfully, noone believes your bullshit anymore.>US crimeNiggers are massievly over represented in most crimes, not just murder. You are wrong and you lie because you being wrong forces you to. (Of course you could just stop like a decent human would, but hey).
You know, I really like the soviet union from a historical perspective of how curious it was. How many other countries can you say had an economy where waiters and taxi drivers are better jobs than engineers and scientists? Where "waiting in a queue" was a considerable part of life? It's just crazy, really.The USSR was a mess of such insane proportions that it's funny. The Uzbek Cotton Scandal is not something that should have been as much as capable of existing. Yet it did
>>740153434I never said it was.
>>740153865Literally. You can take every single quote Hitler ever made about Jews. Replace Jews with Nazis. And suddenly they make perfect sense. >>740153913>All Germany did was tell the banks to go fuck themselves>By privatizing them and loaning massive amounts of money from them.
>>740153919There is a solution, it's known for being Socialist as well as Nationalist I hear.
>>740153807Reminder that if you>hate white people for having better genes>think beautiful people need to die to make space for ugly people>think fit people need to die to make space for the lamo>think rich people need to die to make space for more povertyyou are a mental nigger.Whiteness, intelligence, beauty, fitness, and wealth are positive traits, let the jealous freaks seethe.
MODS please lock this thread it’s getting a little out of hand….!
>>740153919I have some books for you anonECONOMY"Economics for Helen" by Hilaire Belloc which is probably the greatest economics primer ever writtenhttps://archive.org/details/economicsforhele0000bellThe Servile State by Hilaire Bellochttps://legiochristi.com/static/lit/H_Belloc_The_Servile_State.pdfManifesto for the Abolition of Enslavement to Interest by Gottfried Feder https://archive.org/details/manifesto-for-abolition-enslavement-interest-on-money-gottfried-feder"Usury" by Calvin Elliott. https://archive.org/details/ElliottCalvinUsuryWhere does Money Come From by Richard Wernerhttps://professorwerner.org/pubs/where-does-money-come-from-a-guide-to-the-uk-monetary-and-banking-system/(can be found on Annas-archive)Princes of the Yen by Richard Wernerhttps://professorwerner.org/pubs/princes-of-the-yen-japans-central-bankers-and-the-transformation-of-the-economy/(can be found on Annas-archive)Bleeding the Host How Financial Parasites and Debt Bondage Destroy the Global Economy by Michael Hudsonhttp://digamo.free.fr/hudson15.pdfNATSOCHitler's Revolution by Richard Tedorhttps://archive.org/details/hitlers-revolution-expanded-edition-richard-tedor_20230406_2240NATIONAL SOCIALISM NOW! by William Joycehttp://www.mourningtheancient.com/joyce2.pdfJEWSThe Biological Jew by Eustace Mullinshttps://www.eustacemullins.us/wp-content/works/Articles/Eustace%20Mullins%20-%20The%20Biological%20Jew.pdfThe Riddle of the Jews' Success by Theodor Fritschhttps://www.der-stuermer.org/english/Theodor%20Fritsch%20-%20The%20riddle%20of%20the%20jew's%20success.pdfThe Jews by Eugen Duhringhttps://archive.org/details/EugenDuhringOnTheJews/page/52/mode/1upGREAT REPLACEMENTFrench Revolution in San Domingo by Lothrop Stoddardhttps://archive.org/details/frenchrevolutio00stodgoogThe Revolt against Civilisation: Untermensch by Lothrop Stoddardhttps://archive.org/details/cu31924016895975/page/n19/mode/1up
>>740153919>its ideological hostility towards nationalism, race, religion, philosophy and private property, which have nothing to do with it's criticism of the Usury based landlord/moneylender financial system via private share-owned central banksWhile you are mostly correct(Private property is a issue), it is also completely true and any system that wants to work should try to eradicate nationalists, race, religion. If not for ideological reasons, simply to maintain society. > its fanatical ignorance of the Jewish question and the intrinsic Jewish nature of the Usury based financial institutionsThat's just a cope by western people trying to avoid responsibility. Italy was practicing Usury for most of it's history. England literally build it's empire off usury. But I don't see you complaining about either. >t's fascinating how legitimate criticisms of the financial system are exclusively for the blue haired brainwashed wokeists who have been raised to hate White peopleAlmost like hating white people and being inteligent and related.
>>740153802>Look at libertarianism. Literally built by a jew angry the soviets took her shekels.its even dumber than that rand only was given an education and the ability to preach her dogshit ideas because of how "progressive" the soviets were. she just hated communism because she thought she was some "based thinking" who shouldn't have to share with the dirty normies and was entitled to have orgys with all the other "based" with kikes (she's died living of social security btw). one of the key cornerstones of the american right and burgerland as a whole was built by some rich jewish femcel who thought helping people was cringe and that we should all worship the rich as they atomized society
>>740153989thats just communism for racists
>>740153625Low teir taste. The issue with the aesthetic (as with the nazi fags) is it was skin deep. The aesthetic was basicly a movie set facade build in the middle of dirt and poverty everywhere.Commies cut corners everywhere they possibly could because everyone in charge was an evil moron.Nazis couldnt even build competent gear even with a workforce of slaves. The 3rd reich used fucking pack mules and the command was filled with meth addicts.
>>740153115when I see posts like that the most influential philosopher of all time didn't have some wagie job picking oakum, I can't help but feel you people just hate intellectualism. That or you think communism would never have arised if only this one specific chad was busy picking oakum rather than thinking and reading.
>>740153243>why does (jerk) do (bad thing)?Either system without justice will ultimately fail and succumb to criminal rule.If your justice system doesn't police from the top down, it's worthless and will be corrupt the day it is put in place. Anyone standing above the law will abuse the law.
>>740153989Indeed. After a few months, the only commies left in Germany were all either jewish terrorists or low impulse sociopaths who refused to give up fighting in the street and burning/destroying shit.
Reminder that if you ever pirated a video game or movie you are communist
>>740151008Communism is so fucking funny>claims to be scientific, but is essentially a fundamentalist religion>rewards martyrdom because it will all work out once the revolution is in place>killing for the cause is justified because it will all work out once the revolution is in place>have their own sacred writings like every other religion>have their own messiah like every other religion>have their own endgame utopia like every other religion>if you have any other beliefs you're a infidel and killing you is justified like every other religionHow do people unironically fall for this stuff?
>>740153931>Niggers are massievly over represented in most crimes, not just murder.No. Just murder. Vast majority of total crime is done by whites. >>740153989>Destroying all of human civilization is a solutionI mean, in a technical sense. >>740154008Whiteness means evil. You are saying its' wrong to hate evil people.
>>740154008i thought richfags were the ones importing niggers and spreading dangerous philosophies. so wouldn't killing them be good for saving white people?
>>740154082No, that's fascism.Nazism is evil for racists. >>740154173It's not a contradiction once you understand white just means evil people. Actual europeans are enemies of whites.
>>740154075>simply to maintain societyBut that's the glue that holds society together lol...>Almost like hating white people and being inteligent and (loooooooooool) related.Yeah, niggers are proof of that lmao
>>740153916nigga...
Engels wrote about replacement migration in the 1890s, of Irish workers replacing the British. Everything he says here is true today, just with different ethnicities.https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1845/condition-working-class/ch06.htmThe great replacement is an effect of capitalism. Even white bourgeois feel no kinship with you. They want to replace you with people who accept the lowest standard of living imaginable. That's how you get Elon Musk, who larps as a Rhodie on twitter, begging for Trump to reverse his h1b1 decision and import more Indians. In fact, the whole reason the elites were initially against Trump, despite him being a complete stooge, is because he is against immigration. It's the only good thing about his presidency. But rest assured, all the vultures looking to succeed him, the so called "tech-right", are no different from "progressive" billionaires like Larry Fink. They all follow the same incentives.
>>740154008You are not white, Moishe. You are a kike.
>tfw no commie femboy bf
>>740153916On your own fucking source, blacks are higher than whites in every category.
>>740154204communism is evil
>>740154098>I can't help but feel you people just hate intellectualism.You think?>that dang philosopher was a thinkin' too hard. Prob'ly a fag.We're clearly dealing with some of the great minds of our time.
>>740154215>But that's the glue that holds society together lol...It destroys society through it's very presence. See Nazi Germany or Italy. Killing it is akin to killing weakness and evil itself..>Yeah, niggers are proof of that lmaoYour "fellow whites" hate you infinitely more than any black person.
>>740154219Per capital is opresshen and shieeeeet
>>740154087>evil moronSounds based
>>740154146>killing for the cause is justified because it will all work out once the revolution is in place
>>740151075>until the class war is wonyou mean until everyone is dead*
>>740154225Reminder Billionaires want AI to replace the entire working force so they can finally wipe out 90% of the world population and live in their heaven on earth where poor people don't exist anymore.
>>740151008>"We will enforce a strict interpretation of this work, and anyone that disagrees with that will either be considered mentally ill or be killed."
>>740154219>Still resorting just to murder because he can't admit whites do the overwelmingly amount of crime. >>740154243No? In most of them whites are far higher.
>>740153679>just ignore the influx of non-whites chudNah
>>740154225It really do be like that...
>>740154310true but I know the real version of this ideology (I'm going to be the leader and I won't tolerate dissent)
>>740154367>>740154282>>740154204>>740154157>REEEEEEE WHITE PEOPLE BAD WHITE PEOPLE BAD WHITE PEOPLE BAD
>>740154380Also ignore the influence of chuds.The quickest path to wanting teh white race to die out is talking with chuds. Why do you think Zoomers are overwelmignly positive to neutral on the fate of the white race?
>>740154367(((whites)))
>>740154401Why do commie russians pretend to have some kinship towards american blacks when they have been extensively racist and colonized every single ethnicity within the russian empire and soviet russia's territory
Tell that jewish nigger Lasalle to kill himself
>>740154173Half of the American voting population votes and is therefore responsible for infinite niggers, it's not about wealth, which is a good thing.
>>740154426Yes.White genocide is the standard for goodness. It's goodness as a practical system.
>>740154326More like when Americans start understanding French history en mass.(Its the reason the culture war exists ;) )
>>740154075>Almost like hating white people and being inteligent and related.You aren't a universalist and are a cancer upon any leftist movement which you attach yourself to. You are a waste of space, and people like you are the only reason I can sympathize with Lenin for purging the Bolshevik party.
>>740154098marx was influential because he was a fucking retard. neither a philosopher or an intellectual.
>>740154367nigga...
Hasan living in a multi million dollar mansion taking about "lets kill property owners, murder those motherfucker, let the street soaked in their red capitalist blood" will never not be funny and retarded
>>740154326Indeed. Marxism upholds that any difference is due to evil actions or an evil system, so the fact that you can walk and reproduce while Shaniqua the troon in a wheelchair can't must be the result of your oppression, so you'll be killed for the cause. Marxism is deliberate devolution via genocide of all the best elements, it's continued literally dysgenic murder policies.>>740154414Kek. It's true though, that virtually every NS imagines himself as a simple citizen in the Reich, while every commie imagines himself as the Dear Leader or at least a high-ranking Commissar. No one wants to be a beaten gulag slave as always happens in communism.
>>740154173/pol/tards simultaneously believe that everything wrong in the world is because of about of rich kikes who hate everyone but god forbid you suggest doing something to stop them cause "THATS COMMUNISM". the modern right might be the most buckbroken movement imaginable, at least tankies don't defend people they claim to loath
>>740154475Nah, it removes good genes, intelligent people, and wealthy people.Peak goodness/antievil is removing weak genes (niggers), retarded people (niggers) and curbing poverty (communism).
>>740154447Right wingers are still technically people. >>740154490>You aren't a universalistyou don't have to be anything to understand that white genocide is little more than a practical application of the concept of justice and goodness.Socialism, liberalism, communism, those are political ideals. White genocide is pest control.
>>740154345They want to keep developing AI because that will supposedly cut costs, make money and push technology, these people already have so much money they can just never see a poor person ever again if they wish, this rethoric is commie pandering divisive nonsense. Not everything is us vs them you religious freak.
>>740154514Then I guess niggers are evil... Communistbros, this has been all a misunderstanding, time to enact TND.
>>740154367Retard-kun...
>>740154472so would rather kill half the population (including a large chunk of white people) than just deal with the handful of kikes actually enacting everything you don't like?
>>740154514>still going just for violent crimes>>740154551> it removes good genes, intelligent people, and wealthy people.They aren't even people, by their own definition. Removing animals is not a crime
>>740154157>No. Just murder. Vast majority of total crime is done by whites.Proof? Data says they are overrepresented in rape too. Also, murder isnt "just".
>>740154075>, it is also completely true and any system that wants to work should try to eradicate nationalists, race, religion. If not for ideological reasons, simply to maintain society.Uh. No. That's completely ideological and has nothing to do with the economic system. You are exactly the kind of brainwashed lemming he's talking about, you accurately criticise the financial system but you also deny the biological and evolutionary differences between human groups and divergent existential reasons people have for existing to fit a utopian delusion that has never existed outside your head.>That's just a cope by western people trying to avoid responsibility."Western people" are not collectively "responsible for usury. There's the midwit brainwashing coming out of you once more. Usury was considered to be the root of all Evil for most of European history and explicitly attacked by all branches of Christianity. >Italy was practicing Usury for most of it's history. Not to the extent Jews were. Jews were infamous for international networks of loan sharks who caught populations in debt traps and chauffeured the wealth out of the country to other nodes of power in other countries where they could by politicians out, grinding the local economies to a halt. A purely parasitic existence, which Jews sought out willingly - nothing ever prevented them from returning to Judea.>England literally build it's empire off usury.You mean after Cromwell let the Jews into England? English people became ruthlessly poor and trillions nationally in debt? The England that modern globohomo spawned out of? The England who's central banks initial shareholders were overwhelmingly Jewish, that England? Lol.>Almost like hating white people and being inteligent and related.Are* related. And I don't think so. Hating White people and being a Jew / a mindslave of Jews is related though
>>740154535I'm beginning to think you are the tetard saying white people are evil and just false flagging. /pol/tards are subversive and operate like jews. But even if you aren't, you are wrong, majority of communists historically just wanted to keep their current jobs but have collective control over the capital they relied on instead of having their surplus value stolen by parasite rent-seekers.
>>740154367Every graph in your source, including the ones posted by anons shows blacks GROSSLY over represented in all crimes. Do you not know what per capita is? We're comparing two very different population sizes.
>>740154157>Whiteness means evilLeftoid lets the mask slip. Any newfag reading this: muh class war was always bullshit. They care about race more than any nazi and hate white people.
>>740153871>Heavy>A commieRetarded secondary detected
>>740154579Amazing what white envy does to peopleMust suck being jewish/brown
W-White bro's? >>740154632Murder is a just. Animals murder. Accidents happen. People die all the time.
>>740154538The best part is they cannot even comprehend that logic. The just fall back on hurr nazi good, racism or own teh libz lul, see: >>740154551
>>740154661the majority of communists are unintelligent, jealous have-nots who want nothing more than to drag everyone down to their miserable level.
>>740154661>you're wrong but if you're right you're still wrongmental illness
>>740154367>In most of them whites are far higherThere is no point in lying so transparently. Even most of your fellow leftoids admit niggers do more crime, they just excuse it with muh socio-economic factors.
>>740154620It is if the animal is animal is highly intelligent tho
>poltards trying divert the discussion to a black/white issurClassic. Jewish behaviour even.
>>740154367......
>>740154538Karl Marx was jewish
>>740154871damnwhy are white men such low t cucks?
>>740154650> That's completely ideological It's not. Pest control is a non ideological issue. >but you also deny the biological and evolutionary differences between human groupsOf course I don't deny them! Racists are biologically inferior. Religious people are biologically inferior. nationalists are biologically inferior. >"Western people" are not collectively "responsible for usury. Insofar that "Western people" as a concept doesn't exist, sure. But leaders and the general population of western countries are.>Usury was considered to be the root of all Evil for most of European history and explicitly attacked by all branches of Christianity.So attacked Italy, you know teh Pope's backyard, was a haven for Usury. >Jews were infamous for international networks of loan sharks who caught populations in debt traps and chauffeured the wealth out of the country to other nodes of power in other countries where they could by politicians out,You literally just described how Italian banking families worked in practice. >You mean after Cromwell let the Jews into EnglandNo, before then. The people, not jews, Cromwell supported were basically build on usury. >English people became ruthlessly poor and trillions nationally in debt?Lol? Yes, anon. During the height of their empire England was infamously poor and destitute. If only they could go back to the wealth and propriety of serfdom. > Hating White people and being a Jew / a mindslave of Jews is related thoughInsofar that being Jewish just means being European and Europeans hate white people, sure.
>>740154691Plus you need to remember that most of those "whites" are not white at all, they're obvious nogs and browns counted as white to skew the data. Aryan criminals virtually do not exist outside of drug addicts and crimes of passion.
>>740153871>Mercenary with a weapon that blows through 400000 dollars in twelve seconds>On top of that is the son of a counter revolutionary and had to escape a gulag
>>740154538The only way to stop kikes is to enact the let kikes own everything and kill everyone ideology aka communism? lmaoCapitalism is good, it's leftroons and their pet niggers destroying society.
>>740154959suicide isn't a murder
>>740154650nta but while I agree the denial of racial differences is unscientific, I think the effect they supposedly have are clearly exaggerated and the result of socioeconomic factors (yes I know I'm doing the meme)See what I posted here, Irish immigrants were basically acting exactly like indians do today in the 1890s>>740154225The universalism, while I agree was probably influenced by Marx's jewish heritage, also makes, or did make, strategic sense, since the bourgeois were constantly starting wars for profit, but would unite against threats to their power. So, it made sense to unite with workers from other countries, and reject nationalism, which was used as pretext to start imperialist wars which benefited primarily the capitalist class.
>>740154807Give it up, anon.>>740154861Sure. As are dolphins.Still not worth a human live though.
>>740154617When did I say I want to kill poor people? I'm not a communist.There is this weird trick that makes poor people not poor, it's called capitalism.
>>740151384
>>740154925>Aryan criminals virtually do not exist outside of drug addicts and crimes of passion.They don't exist because we don't charge animals with crimes. Yarrans are animals.
>>740155014Whites are more intelligent than any animal species, human or not, so yeah, it's evil to kill them.
>>740154538that's because people here don't want to stop the boot from coming down and crushing everyone they want to be the one WEARING the boot(or at least someone who shares all their beliefs). a large chunk of conservatives have convinced themselves that they're always on the verge of being apart of the elites so why would they want to kneecap a group they feel entitled to. its the same reason why they always talk about how the problem is that the "wrong" people are in charge rather than question why the system keeps rewarding horrible people who hate everyone else.
>>740155013>nta but while I agree the denial of racial differences is unscientific,It's not. Race is pseudoscience. The issue is not "groups don't exist" it's "Dividing people based on a fictional concept like race" is wrong.Ethnicity is purely memetic and it's more reliable. >>740155087>Whites are more intelligent than any animal species,They are less intelligent than humans and their life is worth less by default. > it's evil to kill them.Of course not. It is in fact the very concept of goodness.
>>740154098A man who understands nothing about the struggles of the working class creating some magical hypothetical is about as valuable as describing colors to the born-blind.
>>740154870Jewish is when you hate niggers bros...
>>740152371Honestly, i think it requires a basement dweller to understand society at least to an extent.If you are constantly stuck struggling paycheck to paycheck working your ass of to survive you just learn to conform and to conserve energy.You need energy and time to waste to think about the bigger problems.Ultimately you still need some real life experiences to understand shit, but that's more of a question of environment. If you frequently engage with people of different classes and states of life you can draw a bigger picture without having to literally experience bone grinding work for 4 decades yourself
>>740155115Bizarre projection as per usual.
>>740154919Why would women have high t nigga wtf
>>740154870Jewish behavior is just racists and nationalists projecting their own behavior onto others.
I refuse to believe anyone can look at the current shitshow we're in and still defend the status quo even next to the evil commies. being a genuine nazi is less embarrassing than being a libertarian at this point
>>740155119Nah, Whites are more intelligent than any human or non-human animal.
>>740155190Are you stupid or is it some joke I'm not getting?
>>740155231retard
W-White bros?>>740155231They are animals. explains why they love to fuck
This thread taught me jewish behavior is being racist, nationalist, White, intelligent, and not poor.WTF I love jews now, how do I make mu nation communist like they wish to?
>>740153532The USSR was never communist as well.
Join us, we don't care if you're racist. A little bit of racism is healthy.
>>740155302>This thread taught me jewish behavior is being racist, nationalist, White, intelligent, and not poor.I mean, Isreal is literally the country all white racists want to live in.
>>740155251No joke, you are the one commenting on a post about women being raped mentioning their testosterone levels
>>740155119Look up the variance in the MAOA gene (aka warrior gene), and how different variants of it are found with different commonalities across ethnicities.Yes, race is an arbitrary category, broad concepts like "white" and "black" are especially applied arbitrarily, but there are still obviously different phenotypical groups of humans. The obvious example of this is that bone marrow transplants are more successful between people of the same race. Denying that ethnicity exists is just delusional.
>>740154579Wheres leftists are rats
>>740155309Only if I get a cute antifa gf with it who reeks of sweat and weed
>>740155263Non-White.>>740155265>unknown>not specifiedlmaoooooo
>>740154579>white genocideToo bad we are stronger and smarter than you so its never gonna happen. You live because we allow you to.
>>740155369I was saying white men have low t because they aren't raping black women retard
>>740155414>antifa"She" might come with a surprise though
>>740155342On what planet do you like nigga, Palestine allows 0 jews, Israel has a huge arab minority population.
>>740155480Arab *Jews
>>740154082racism is central to communism, Marx literally wrote a letter calling his son in law Paul Lafargue a nig who belongs in a zoo. no peasant workers would've welcomed mass migration of africans like today at the time either
>>740155469Even better
>>740154959They both were. CCP definitely tracked down that guy and murdered him.
>>740155442>Too bad we are stronger and smarter than youNope.>So it's never going to happenIt's been happening for centuries.>You live because we allow you toYour ability to live has been taken away.
>>740155309I wear glasses though.
>>740154735>crime is okYou're brown. You don't live in misery because of ebil yt, you do so because you think like this.Thing is, your misery is just: subhumans deserve it.
>>740155598We don't claim Pol Pot
>>740155463White men aren't raping niggers because niggers are ugly. It's really that simple.
>>740154919You said whites do more crime, now they are toothless? Which is it?
>>740155309Nah, capitalism is better, regardless of racism, your jewish poverty ideology sucks.
>>740155660>That doesn't count
>>740155669If you would have high t you would want to rape everyoneI learned that from Baki
>>740154919>raping a sheboonNo thanks, in fact I'd pay to not having to touch a nigress. Yuck.
>>740155730Everyone has that one retarded family member
>>740154959Murder isnt a big deal, your fellow leftoid said so >>740154735
>>740153916>brown person doesn't understand per capita Thanks for the source, RETARD. Now I have all the stats to back up the racist shit I say.
>>740155759yes the communist one
>>740155737Well Indians rape everything and they are some of the lowest test people in the world so...
>>740155523African *AmericansActually no we hate niggers, American or not.
>>740155631>You're brown.Factually wrong.>You don't live in misery because of ebil yt,Who says I live in misery? I live perfectly happy.I would just be happier if you were completely eradicated to the last. That's all.>>740155779State violence is actually far worse than a random criminal killing you. I don't expect you to understand that though.
>>740155790LMAO
>>740155798Do they actually rape?I thought they just creep on women but that's it
>>740155779>muh whites/muh blacks niggerYeah no
>>740155786>Now I have all the statsThat show whites do the overwhelming majority of crime? Damn....>>740155857Mostly this. Whites do the overwhelming majority of rape in countries like the UK.
>>740155834Erm, snowflake, I know you got stabbed and are dying but did you know that a hecking state violence and systematic racism is happening?
>>740155014>4mil white cases vs 2mil black, a 2:1 ratio>white vs black pop ratio is 4,5:1You just posted proof that niggers are more than 2x likely to be druggies, retard.
>>740155857Yeah they rape.https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/other-states/bengal-monitor-lizard-allegedly-gang-raped-in-maharashtra-forest-four-held/article65320182.eceI genuinely think they are worse than niggers. I get agitated whenever I see or have to interact with one.
>>740155917Says the guy who thinks it's perfectly okay to get stabbed and rapped by a white guy.
>>740155834That what makes you evil though, you want the most intelligent race to die, while you, the low quality genes non-human lives.Wishing for the death of intelligence, fitness and beauty (Whiteness) is evil.
>>740155265You keep posting data that shows niggers do in fact do more crime...
>>740155936All because evil white people are oppressing them
>>740155801You are aware Israel intentionally creates conflict across Europe and the Middle East with the express purpose of encouraging all ethnic Jews to move there, yeah?The Hebrew they speak is literally a modern invention, it didn't exist until the 20th century, it was state mandated and the accent chosen was the Middle Eastern variant because it sounded more "authentic" based on nothing but vibes.
>>740155309You are anti-white, fuck off
>>740155989>He says, while he worships a reality TV star entirely subservient to the Jew, who is engaged in a losing war that will end industrial civilization just so the Jews can have more land lol
>>740155962Of course it's fine, getting stabbed is nothing to complain about, systematic racism and hecking state violence are more important.
Rightoids are destined to lose because they put the racial issue above class consciousness.
>>740155936>You just posted proof that niggers are more than 2x likely to be druggiesI posted proof that whites are the majority in most crimes to the extent that per capita they aren't that noticeable. Which I did repeatedly. Because whites are the majority in total crimes.
>>740156037Jews are already in Europe they don't need a pretext to move around.And Vatican city Latin has a different pronunciation than classical Latin, who gives a shit.
>>740156009Yep.>>740156086They are destined to lose because they have no in group bias. They claim to care about their fellow whites when over 60% of their fellow whites literally would love to murder them.
>>740156064>made up imaginary warYep, it's schizo time.
>>740155594>Too bad we are stronger and smarter than you>NopeSo how come we effortlessly subjugated all of you? >So it's never going to happen>It's been happening for centuriesIn other wirds, you are not making any progress.>You live because we allow you to>Your ability to live has been awayImpotent wishful thinking of the weak.>inferiority complex this bigYou're a slavespawn, aren't you?
>>740156086So does left? Like if you'd give leftist the choice between protecting illegals and browns and resolving some class issue 95% would choose the heckin' wholesome browns. I mean we have literally seen it happen during occupy wallstreet.
>>740156220Libshits are not leftists
>>740152574Best post itt most people are not aware enough to know when they’re doing this though
>>740155995
>>740156113>>740156170Stats keep showing Whites are never over represented in crime per capita though.
>>740156113I don't think you know what that word means.If you go by what >>740155936 said you'd have to divide the white numbers by 4.5 and see how it compares to the black numbers after that.
>>740155834Wrong on all counts, what a pathetic shitskin you are.FYI there are a BILLION people of European descent on the planet.
>>740156258>the real left are the 0.1% radical tankies and nazbolssure thing anon
>>740156210yeah 20% of the world's oil supply being entirely cut off and countries using up the entirety of their strategic petrol reserves just to stem the bleeding is just made up you will be paying $8 a gallon for gas by the end of summer
>>740156214>So how come we effortlessly subjugated all of you?How come we won world war 2 and subjugated you?>In other wirds, you are not making any progress.Great replacement disagrees.>Impotent wishful thinking of the weak.See above.>>740156303It shows that blacks and whites are largely identical per capita. Just different in what crimes they do.
>>740155861Your fellow leftoid disagrees
>>740156086Both are equally important. The billionaires and politicians import hordes of brown people into our countries to suppress our wages and decrease our quality of living just to benefit themselves. We can't afford homes, many of us can't see a doctor, the middle class is being erased and meanwhile we have to deal with disgusting brown subhumans each day.
>>740156321>BillionsGreat replacement is taking care of that. Don't you worry. >>740156397Your fellow whites would rather kill you.
>>740156338Yeah, you barely have a leftist movement in the US which is sad. It's all libshits and blue haired antifa "girls".
>>740156365Nooo... Anyways lol>>740156374It shows that in most of the crimes negroid cucks are overrepresented while Whites are not.
>>740156113>nigger is innumerateWhat surprise!
>>740156449>It shows that in most of the crimes negroid cucks are overrepresented while Whites are not.No? There are plenty of crimes in which they are unrepresented. And plenty in which whites are overrepresented. >>740156457>He can't do basic math.