How bad are they in trouble? >Naughty Dog's next IP is struggling with a low view count on its trailer and lacks significant hype.>The new God of War game is getting mixed reception, with low viewership and underwhelming hype.>Wolverine looks mid>They just reported a $30 million loss due to exclusives flopping >All their multiplayer slop games are bombing I'm failing to see an upside. Sounds like they're relying on Rockstar to keep them relevant. How the might have fallen.
>>740157209They're going to be completely fine because while you're correct that nobody cares about ANY of their first party games, the PS5 is about to get a HUGE boost when everybody, their Mom, their Dad, their Dog, and their goldfish buys one for GTAVI.Because they sure as hell aren't going to buy an Xbox.
>>740159385You know what, I believe it. Despite everyone being poverty poor they go out to Target and buy Tiktok trend slop like this every monthhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4A6D9T6aI9I
>>740159385this
>>740157209Sony's biggest problem isn't their mid games. It's that Nintendo gets third party games. There's gonna be millions who buy NS2 just because Nintendo has COD now
>>740160213PS5 is the only real console that will have GTA 6 and Call of Duty though, thats where PS could stay afloat
>>740159385this is correctSony and MS are multiplat marketsnobody really buys these things for exclusives>>740160213this is falseNintendo is a fundamentally different narket base. Third party sales actually struggle on their platform.Meanwhile the opposite is true for Sony and Microsoft.
>>740160287I mean this is technically wrong, Xbox exists, and the series X is more powerful than the base PS5, but for all intents and purposes you're right, people want what everyone else already has. The MS/Sony Market is a sprint, not a marathon. Whoever gets out early has a huge advantage for the whole gen unless the opposition royally fucks up.(at least in America)
I think the ps5 may have been one of the few consoles that actually made a profit on hardware aloneTack on the monthly subscriptions and you realise why playstation hasn't died yet, the system itself is making money hand over foot without any game sales
>>740159684Most people buy stuff outside their means using credit. Banning credit cards would probably kill tons of bad business practices that intentionally target those people.
the most hype I felt was when I saw psi ops. true story
>>740160536Yes technically Xbox is a thing, but its just an inferior PS5 for most people. The PS5 actually has a handful of exclusives and the same exact third party support essentially. Its sales have fallen off so bad its almost a non factor at this point. Lifetime sales are supposedly up to 34m and PS5 is dominating it even despite the Series S being so cheap.
>>740160378third party sales struggle on PS5/Xbox too, if it's not the big gun and balls games, they die
china would have to send every gacha dev to die in taiwan for sony's life raft of skimming mtx to pop
>>740160670And somehow its still better than competitors third party sales outside of PC
>>740160564It is the most successful console ever at its price points.
>>740159684Jfc dudeI cannot what this adderal-induced normie garbage
>>740160790>outside of PCbut that's the only competitorthird party would die without PC
>>740157209>"exclusives" floppingSo they only gained 1.5% on PC to lose 45% on their home field where every sale is worth an extra 30% in royalties that they don't have to pay.>All their multiplayer slop games are bombingThis really is just a gold face WHIRR poster's vindication thread. Everything they said would happen if /v/ got their monkey paw wishes happened.
>>740161158Nintendo and Xbox compete with it for third party sales too though
>>740157209You forgot to mention that they also just decided to not sell their singleplayer games on PC anymore, so they have lost part of the buyers>>740159385They are probably selling the console at a loss.
>>740161592I already added xbox with PS5, and you already said third party don't sell on nintendoPC is literally the only safe place for 3rd party left that isn't COD, Fortnite, Sports ball or GTA
>>740159385It's this>xbox is irrelevant>not on pc, pc niggers won't get the most anticipated, advanced and next gen of all time, they're too busy playing vampire crawlers and megabonk>switch 2 can't even run rdr 2
>>740160667In effect you're correct but as >>740160378 has proved, exclusives are rather irrelevant for non-Nintendo
>>740160213normalfags won't buy a switch 2 just to play cod with worse graphics and framerate, delusional fucktard nintendo fanboy lmao
>>740161894Trve but larperfags already own a Switch 2 to play Pokopia and Tomodachi Life
>>740157209Sony first-party titles have been a money sink for a long time now. For most of its existence PlayStation was the sportsball, racing and shooter console.
>>740161838To be fair exclusives are a lot of why PS beat Xbox so badly this gen, even if they didnt have high attach rates, they bought the PS5 because they might as well have access to them if they do want to play them at some point. Kind of an interesting thing
>>740157209>They just reported a $30 million loss due to exclusives floppingThey lost 30million sales dumbass, $30m would only be about 500k sales.
>>740162420Oh, that's much worse
>>740160378>Nintendo is a fundamentally different narket base.Retarded take. The Nintendo fans that bought xbox or ps in the past will never do that again. Then there's all the casuals/families that will never do it again. Sony won't lose the sony fanboys but they'll lose most other people
>>740161704PS5 does move lots of third party sales though
>>740161158Did you see the GTAV bookings on PC vs the twins? It's barely even a thing.
>>740157209We already know for a while that playstation is completely dependent on third party microtransactions from fortnite, fifa, cod and gta V
>>740157209What I don't understand is why they keep trying to make video games into movies. If I wanted to watch a movie, I'd watch one. Video games are not movies and the video game industry is not the movie industry. Sony was instrumental in bringing in the people who want to treat video games like movies as well as the graphics whores who have fucked up this community and never left after they were swarmed in with the PS2.Fuck Sony. Fuck Sony music, Sony movies, and PlayStation. FUCK them. And before you say anything, Xbox is irrelevant and should have went full 3rd party a while ago. They are wasting their time with making consoles and need to just make a PC, call it Xbox and ship it (that's not what Helix is either despite it being able to play Steam, EGS and maybe GOG games too).
>>740162285>To be fair exclusives are a lot of why PS beat Xbox so badly this genunlikely.it came down to price and attach rate. People want to play on what their friends have.The damage was done when the Xbox One came out at the same time as the PS4 at 100 dollars more expensive.Even if you go back a gen earlier, the Xbox 360, which dominated in North America, only did so because it came out a year earlier and was $100 cheaper. People really overrate the value of exclusives for these things. Nobody in any significant number was buying a PS4 or 5 for Spiderman lol.
>>740157209Yeah. I always love checking in on my favorite cancer patient. What's the State Of Play? Terminal. But video games as a whole are on a massive decline with only a few games actually being worth the time despite how many games come out big or small. Most media is like this though, it's really just how the world is as a whole. I think that the goal is to make everything so dull and toothless and bad that the bar becomes easier to clear without actually having to try to step over it
>>740157209>Wolverine looks midIt’s also got Sweet Baby Inc involved, they just aren’t crowing about it quite so loudly.
>>740160213Why the fuck would I buy the gimped ass Switch 2 version if I have the option for a better version?
>>740157209I’ve had a PS5 for about five years, and the only time I turn it on now is to occasionally play RE4 or Gran Turismo in VR.
>>740157209>95% of the games shown are also on PC or worse, also on Switch 2
>>740164863So what? Why does that make Playstation any less of a platform than those other two?
is ps5 to ps5 pro worth it , I do HDR 4k gaming, would be looking for a used or open box
>>740164740I guess piracy on PC is still great but prices is bad for PC right now
>>740159385no theyre not. With PS6 "on the horizon" and the pro being 800 dollars(god even knows what R* are gonna charge for the game) Sony is cultivating a fanbase that is either going to wait for the new console or already owns a PS5
>>740164032>Fuck Sony. Fuck Sony music, Sony movies, and PlayStation. FUCK them.Based anon
>>740164916Because Playstation has always prided itself on exclusivity*, or even just partial exclusivity*, like they're doing again by trying to pull their non-multiplayer titles off of PC. It's not good optics if your big, massive semi-annual livestream event is announcing a bunch of games that can be purchased elsewhere with absolutely no downsides.I definitely don't need a PS5 for the Ace Combat Zero Remaster because Bandai Namco confirmed it's available on Steam.
>>740162487nah he's rightHere's the chart with NintendoThey're a fundamentally different market.Nintendo thrives on 1st party games, single player games even.3rd party games sell poorly there.
>>740165556This is before the big third parties was on Nintendo lmao. COD on the go will sell like crazy
They're failing according to /v/'s standards but in the real world they're doing just fine. Still selling like 300k consoles every week and it's the most active platform. It's going to get more active too now that everyone is abandoning pc gaming due to the prices and everyone being pushed to ai boxes.
>>740160378>Third party sales actually struggle on their platform.If this were true, why are they always talking about how well their games are doing on Switch and Switch 2?
>>740157209They'll definitely start putting games back on PC within a year i reckon. And within 2 years they'll be day and date. Sony's first party output and sales are at an all time low.
>>740165724closing studios, releasing $300m disasters(five of them), and releasing a dire quarterly report is actually good!
>>740165427What if someone can't afford a PC or doesn't want to game on it? Lots of people only have one platform.
>>740165724>now that everyone is abandoning pclol this is pure delusion
>>74016066734 milly is a figure from almost 3 years ago. Im sure Series consoles are at 40 milly right now because for some reason if you look at hardware sales these consoles still sell though very slowly as fuck and 2.5 times less than PS5 lol.
>>740165392The average PS5 buyer isn't part of some snoy cult and they don't give a fuck about the ps6. Most active players were still on PS4 until recently.You are insanely out of touvh/terminally online
>>740165804>>740165706nah, it's just a different market base.CoD players don't buy Nintendo consoles.https://www.polygon.com/608015/nintendo-switch-2-third-party-game-sales/
>>740166686>nah, it's just a different market baseIt can't be different when Nintendo gets the same games lmao
>>740166578>theyre not part of a sony cult>but theyre gonna pay $800 for a PS5 for one game
>>740165556>3 shitty Pokemon titles and a GBA game you can play better and for free on a web browserInsane how the Nintendo fans still somehow look more retarded compared to the other 2.
>>740157209>>740159385Many people always act arrogant and mock me whenever I post this here or on Reddit, but Playstation is not surviving past 6 and, every single time, little by little, Sony proves me correct with their decisions, in short succession we've had>massive price hike, PS5 Pro at $1k now>mandatory 30 day online check in that, if you fail to comply results in you losing your games and having to buy them again>mandatory ID verification to use social stuff and to buy games is coming soon>Yesterday's state of play gave us either exclusive movie games slop that no one's gonna buy and is gonna flop, GaaS slop or games that can be played on a better platform, aka Valve's Steam on PCThey're in trouble, badly so, and yet many people refuse to see it, take a look at the shitshow yesterday. Sure there were some promising games, Onimusha seems fun, Ace Combat 8 as well, but why would I get those for Playstation when those are clearly PC games meant to be played on a PC first and foremost? Why are those games being shown there in the first place? Why is Sony dedicating their show to display PC games? Why are the exclusives all boring movie game shit? Why does Wolverine look boring as hell and not at all like a video game? Why does God of War looks like the same "We have to be better men!" Movie Game that it's been since it entered this Nordic phase? People will somehow still clown on me for saying this stuff, either for (you)s or for upvotes, yet the situation is still the same, Sony is imploding fast because of their serious mismanagement issues
>>740166130>What if someone can't afford a PCFor the younger generation and anyone under 35 years old? They'll just keep using their phones and tablets (or even laptops) until they save up enough for the PC. Or they'll just say "fuck it" and just not get any of the consoles since video games aren't even close to being as coveted or desired for them as they were for people our age (35 years old and older). For the younger generations, video games are just things to pass time sometimes. Either that, or it can be used to make "content" to make money from and build an audience/brand with. Otherwise, video games don't matter to them, and I actually respect them for that.
>>740157209It has been the status quo for how many years? They'll be fine. GTA VI and sports games that black people love to play will keep them afloat, but they'll have to cut a bit on their SP woke slop.
>>740167080GTA 6 will be playable on the 599 dollar PS5 though
>>740167787>but they'll have to cut a bit on their SP woke slop.They've shown no signs of doing this; instead, they're eating their losses and doubling down.
>>740167949lol
Sony has pigeon holed itself into a rut.There's no turning back from this.
>>740167965Most of these upcoming projects were greenlit years ago. They'll tone it down eventually. Maybe not the content, but the funds and the number of projects.
>>740165556this chart is useless without numbers, but you are already proving yourself wrong, because both Fortnite and Minecraft are there. Rocket league is probably on top 20.The thing is, its more likely for Nintendo to have shooters and ACTUAL 60FPS ball games than Sony having a proper 1st party portfolio.
>>740157209People are sheep they’re gonna buy Forspoken 2 because it says GoW on the cover.
>>740166939the people buying Nintendo consoles are not the same people buying Playstations are not the same people gaming on PC
>>740167080maybe a few, but the masses won't
>>740168606>unlessnot at allit provides context>minecraft and fortniteyes they're extremely popular on console
>>740167120>Why are those games being shown there in the first place? Why is Sony dedicating their show to display PC games? Why are the exclusives all boring movie game shit?Ironically sony deciding to not put anything on pc anymore hurts them more than anything now. Because we all know sony only really ported thier modern games and now with these showcase it only proves pcfags right about them. Sony doesn't make games anymore
>>740166939It's a different market base because that's what Sony defined it as during the FTC v. Microsoft court case
>>740169028People couldn't get these games on Nintendo before>>740169306Yeah because Sony was scared of losing Call of Duty to Microsoft and possibly Nintendo which would give them a massive advantage. But in effect Nintendo getting COD for free is just as bad.
>>740169134But that's what I mean, those are basically the only proper 3rd party games Switch 2 have right now.ROBLOX, GTAV, COD, Rainbow Six don't have a Switch 2 version and all EA sports games are gimped ( 30fps and no crossplay, when even the PS4 version have those).
