This is the right move honestly, western AAA has more growth potential for PlayStation. It doesn't mean they're gonna stop making Japanese games they just released Bloodborne and it was a big critical and commercial success, they're just expanding.
OH NONONONO
>>740159015complete and utter homofication is about to commence
>2016
Test
>>740159015soon there will be no more growing markets.It will not be very pretty
>>740159015>>740159120>>740159196You cunts are absolutely retarded
Beginning of the end. Imagine the kino we'd still be getting if they didnt move to Cali
>>740159341Who's idea was it to build the entire system around infinite growth on a finite planet anyway?
>>740159015Article from 2016 presented as something new. Mods clean this dogshit bait post up.
>>740159440Some very smart men from ivy league schools. trust the plan.
>>740159398>Imagine the kino we'd still be gettingThere was no "kino" on the PS3, and that was well before 2016. PSfags love to eat shit for decades, dumbest fanbase of all time.
>>740159341>2032>Sony moves headquarters to Beijing
i thought they were already there
>>740159398Sony had been going to shit since at least 2005, and they stopped releasing good games with the PS3.
now that a decade has passed, I am sure we can all agree that this was a suicidal move
>>740159015We’re getting Persona 5 as an exclusive later this year and people are still worried about Japanese software? Wow
>>740159015this is such a killer move. Nintendo has no chances now! the next console is DOA! I can't wait for them to start releasing their games on my ps4.#4theplayers
>>740159654Well... I'm not so sure yet. It has been confirmed by the old-heads that the current job market in game development is worse than it was after the 1980's crash. That's a big mile stone. At the same time there are a bunch of AA and indie studios out here with no backing from equity investors turning pocket lint into millions. Living the good life success, etc.
>>740159015The Insomniacs leaks had a DEI instruction manual authored by Naughty Dog in 2017 distributed by Sony to ALL of its developers. Spiderman 1 was too far ahead in development so it only got away with some flags, but the real fun was yet to come.Omega Labyrinth Z was also banned by Sony in 2016 and that was when CERO ratings, developer mails in Japanese, and Japanese working day schedules, were no longer acceptable by Sony.That was also when killable NPCs who happen to be female were no longer tolerated in Assassin Creed games, starting with Odyssey. Some insiders as Ubisoft described the requests as schizrophrenic, ever changing, and vague.That was also when Sony Japan Studios' announced plans in 2015 to produce more exclusives fizzled out, and when Sony's successful live service ventures such as Concord and 11 other projects started development with gigantic budgets, and when The Last of Us 2 developer Naughty Dogs started having a lot of its longtime talent suddenly quit the company or the game industry altogether, when Amy Henning gave cryptic interviews about stifled creative freedom when writing stories about friendship, when rumors of playtesters and code monkeys starting to quit over culture clash, and when the budgets and schedule started ballooning to a ridiculous degree.
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>stupid fucks not getting the jokeI can't believe how retarded this board has becomeZoomers are indeed a bunch of stupid, 83 IQ mulattoes
The saddest part is that Uncharted 4 is a decade old and Sony movie games never became more impressive than that
>>740159015Well, this explains.. everything
>>740159015Mind if i screenshot this thread to twitter and see the reactions?
>>740159498good luck with that, they just namedropped Tibet in GoW. Maybe they should aim for Mumbai instead
>>740159440Every system is built that way.
>>740159440The same people who exploit us and take all our surplus labor. Shocking, I know.
>>740159440Stop asking antisemitic questions
>>740159015It's funny how as Soon as they moved to California the enshittification of PlayStation was all but guaranteed, they only survive due to Sony having a dip in everything
>>740159440Jews trying to implode a successful company then buying all it's IPs for cheap once it gets too bloated and explodes. They then reuse the IPs as skinsuits for their own ideals or cash grabs
What the fuck is this bot thread?Kill yourself, OP
sony collapsing in two weeks btw
>>740159440That's the thing, it's only built around that on the surface. How it's actually designed is to focus on short term growth and then bounce before it becomes your problem. Doesn't matter if shit collapses if you have already gotten your golden parachute. That's the next guy's problem.
>>740162302>grossly inflated budgets>no output>more profitHow does this work?
>>740162462Probably Fortnite and roblox bucks and soon GTA 6 online bucks keeping them afloat. Sony gets a 30% cut of all those purchases
>>740162302>most profitable>multiplats, remakes, remasters or just straight up ports are 80% of piss5 library. Like for example, GTAV is a port of the previous gen, this is what the gaymers want. Also, my interesets in consoles do not aling with the interests of CEOs trying to scam me, I do not care if the system I´m playing at has been profitable for the jews up there.
>>740162156Not buying god of war cunt edition
>>740159015>2016
>>740159015Do you think they regret doing this after a decade?Losing the console market to Nintendo?I still remember the Xbox One debacle where Sony released a 30 second video on how to share games. Fucking based.
>>740161403Absolutely delusional. For thousands of years, the model of the workers owning their means of production was stable (like a baker in Rome 2 thousands years ago, which, contrary to what midwits firmly believe, was not a capitalist).Infinite growth is a requirement of Capitalism, and of Capitalism only. Feudalism, despite its obvious flaws, didn't need it.
>>740159015>Move your HQ and invest in a billion studios in the most expensive place on earth just before the entire industry pivots back to asia and undergoes a Japanophile boom.This is the dumbest move they ever made. Even worse than bungie.
>>740163002>Do you think they regret doing this after a decade?New Sony CEO has basically said as much, problem is that it takes years to change direction for a ship this big, it's probably already too late. Stuff we're seeing now are decisions that were made around 5 years ago
>>740159015I thought they did that already?
>>740159015
>>740162302Wild how a console built that up based on third party and how it all didn't go through pc.
>>740159015great example of how bo one looks at the pics in these threads
>>740162302>GenerationThis means they lumped literally anything and everything together and claim it's PS5 sales. Then again, 90% of Sony's income comes from fortnite microtransactions and PS+ subscriptions (which just got another price increase despite no improvements being made to the service)
wrong decade time traveller-kun
>>740163181>too lateIt's been a decade. It's already over.You know it's bad when one of Sony's biggest money maker is a gacha.
>>740159495DeS, GoW
>>740159015Don't worry OP. I understood your joke, faggot
>>740159015I though they already did a long time ago even...>2016Why the fuck are you posting decade day old news?
>>740159440Jews
>>740159015the experiment failed time to go back to Nipponps5 is a travesty, they have no opposition and still keep taking shots to the head.
>>740159015one of the single worst moves in vidya history. if they stayed in Japan, they'd still be kicking ass. they wouldn't have bought Bungie.almost as bad as Nintendo uses carts for the N64
>>740162462Sony is basically a landlord
>>740162462Xbox commits suicide and gives them a free runway to crash into a wall.
>CaliforniaThey'll be bankrupt in 5 years
>>740162462They're charging way higher prices. This all came after the €80 games, price hikes to PS+, price hike to consoles etc.
>>740159015Everyone even back then was shouting in protest about this.
>>740159440The Dutch in the early 1600s
>>740159015>Coincidentially 10 yearshmmmmmI wonder what have wee been getting 10 years of from themhmmm
Didn't they already do this?
>>740166647They never stopped doing it.
erm, well that happened
>>740169058They fell for the lies and 10 years later here we are, with sony really thinking of getting rid of their us branch to save costs.
>>740159015Dead company
>Sony is giving japan to nintendowhat about their japanese market...?
>>740170848Japan is done, brown military shooters are the future
>>740159015>basedggers have chosen deathso be it.
This is an article from LITERALLY over a decade agofuck off
>>740160304>That was also when killable NPCs who happen to be female were no longer tolerated in Assassin Creed games, starting with Odyssey. Some insiders as Ubisoft described the requests as schizrophrenic, ever changing, and vague.I haven't played Odyssey or Valhalla but there are two female assassination targets in Mirage and one of them is the final boss.
>>740159015Of course it was the eternal anglo who did it.Of fucking course.
>>740172387It's never been more relevant.
>>740163118>(like a baker in Rome 2 thousands years ago, which, contrary to what midwits firmly believe, was not a capitalist).What would he be called? What was the system of commerce back then called to in modern economics? This predates mercantilism and that's as far as my knowledge goes.
>>740159015In hindsight, this explains a lot about what happened to Sony's output in the last 10 years.
>>740159495>There was no "kino" on the PS3PS3 has the best 1st/2nd party output in any snoy gen>warhawk>demon's souls>gow3>crack in time>lbp>pubbeteer>infamouse>motor storm>uncharted (was the only movie game so it was actually different and good)>killzone 3>infamous>resistance>folklore>tokyo jungle>heavy rain>siren
>>740159015A decade of soul and kino stolen from us.
>>740159440You're antisemitic
>>740159015Disregarding the old as fuck OP, what IS sony at this point anymore???Their movie business is absolute dogshit with some of the worst movies humanity has ever known being shat out.Their gaming business is a no games / dad of war circle jerk.They basically surrendered their TV business to TCL.Cameras?? Is that it?
>>740159015They are more profitable than ever...We lost.
>>740173307Afraid so.
>>740159015>4 years is the average dev time for a AAA game>2020 (2016+4) is pretty much around the time where all sony releases started going into complete dogshit territoryIt really makes you think, doesn't it
>>740159015Man that didn't turn out well.
>>740174884The tonal shift for the God of War and Spider-Man sequels were palpable, not a single person seems to prefer the sequels
>>740159015Why would any company HQ in a high corporate tax state?
>>740173307On the professional camera side, they've also been completely overshadowed by Arri for the past 15 years. Sony appears to mostly be a semi-passive "resting on its laurels" type of business now. They have a hand in a bit of everything, but they're not driving any innovation or actually producing much of value themselves, just collecting fees as a middle-man through previously set up systems and deals. PlayStation is held up by their 30% cut on gun and ball money, not their own games.
>>740172618It really was just commerce. Mercantilism is the weaponisation of commerce.Capitalism is not about commerce. It is about people owning the means of production but not using them themselves. That is why Steam is not an example of Capitalism as Gaben is both the owner and a worker.
>>740163118you don't know anything about feudalism. growth was always sleeked out by claiming more land.
>>740163118Yes, definitely!I'm glad wars never happened over people wanting more land.
>>740159015I didnt think sony could be gayer, how wrong I was
>>740159015>2016OP is retarded, but yes this was and still is Sonys biggest mistake.
>>740165738One can only hope
>>740175882>>740176309>Ants have a capitalist economic system because they go to war and enjoy the spoil of warThat is the fundamental level of your argument.I could have used a more reasonable comparison, like primitive tribes fighting each others, or the nomadic people of Mongolia suddenly conquering Eurasia, but it would not have been appropriated for the quality of your posts.
>>740175804What work does Gabe do?
>>740177369don't need to discredit the point that feudalism is built on consolidating wealth just like a capitalist venture because you waved the magic wand of deflection. how convenient.
>>740159015OH NON NON NOSLANTEYEBROS, YOU OK??#?
>>740159015>moving to f***** burgerlandtop retard alert
>>740159015you are now back in 2016what would you do differently?
>>740178487i would kill myself
Why isn't the Japanese deep state stepping up to protect one of its biggest companies under jewish takeover? Are they all a bunch of faggots too now?
>>740178654Did you not read the news? They're working together now.
>>740178654>Japanese>Deep StateIt's been a occupied country since post WW2. Why do you think its been strategically destroyed by massive amounts of debt despite japs having one of the most sustainable lifestyles in the world?
Sony wants Japan to answer to America. It's the only explanation.
>>740159015>Japan's market shrinks>A year later Switch begins it's run to become the best selling console of all timeThis fucking lie still pisses me off. The worst part was they convinced japanese 3rd parties it was true
>>740172387>article about a man shooting himself in the foot>man is currently dying of an infected foot wound>HE SHOT HIMSELF A DECADE AGO WHY ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THIS
>>740159357Why would younexpect the average /v/ user to he able to read?
>>740180548And yet the Switch and PS5 had region locked consoles.Foreigners can't buy games from the JP eshop after years of being able to.
Why didn't Japan Studio make games that could sell in America? From like 2009-2015 Sony gave their Japanese devs so many chances and they kept flopping. Meanwhile Americans loved The Last of Us. Sony didn't abandon Japan out of nowhere
>>740159015>over 10 years ago
>>740159440This is why antisemitism laws are more important than ever, people are starting to ask dangerous questions again, it's chilling, it almost feels like 100 years ago.
>>740181289What's the better business model?>$200+ millions and 6+ years dev cycles>Relatively slim profit margins because of the massive costs (a single flop wipes out multiple games' profits)Or>Budgets well under $50m with 1 to 2 years dev cycles>Low to moderate success on most releases, but a single hit makes up for every other project and can be the birth of a new franchise
>>740181289They weren't interested in making short term slop for idiots with formulas that would burn out within a generation. If Nintendo had the same mentality as sony they would have shut down half their core studios by now and replaced them with shitty western ones.I remember how sony treated gravity rush 2, they were embarrassed it even existed. They didn't show it at e3 because it didn't fit their image of being a serious HBO movie studio. If they were treating an almost complete game like shit imagine how they were treating any attempt to greenlight another. They wanted to shut down Japan studio because they wanted the future without Japanese influence.
>>740159015It feels like yesterday with the amount of woke dick sucking we still have today.
>>740181289Japan Studios filled a niche and appealed to a different audience, having a diverse line up and not putting all your eggs in one basket is basic business and now Sony is paying the price
>>740159015so dying then...
>>740182005Option A makes line go up faster. I can understand why major big devs owned by bigger studios want to trend that way, what I don't understand is why there doesn't seem to be anyone trying to fill that mid-budget AA niche. I mean regardless of any political motivations, once you start dumping hundreds of millions of dollars into a production it really limits how much risk you want to take. The bigger the budget, the less risk, because you need your game to not alienate anyone in your audience because it has to sell to everyone who has ever heard the word "video games" to make its money back. The inevitable conclusion of that is a finished product that is so focus grouped and rounded off that it becomes offensively inoffensive.
>>740184568Because its almost impossible to market a AA game unless the devs are actually creative and capable of original thought. 99% of games are just rehashes of old formulas which aren't appealing with low budgets and its been so long like this that they all forgot how to make new IP or experiment.
>>740159015They can run as much as they want but sony will always be japanese studio
>>740185238The successful AA games market themselves as they get sequels, it's easy to forget how pretty much 80% of current AAA games started out as AA. It's just the first entry you gotta push in stuff like State of Play or VGA.We did have promising titles with lackluster sales that got abandoned only to be remembered as a hidden gem years later, but those would be rare now gamers are way more informed about new releases.
>>740159204The purpose of this post is to point out where it went wrong, and allow the reader to reflect on how shitty it has become.
>>740159015damn, it’s really been over a decade since somy got super gay
>>740159015That's enough. I'm buying the steam box.
>>740159015Nigga we discussed this like 10 years ago, your own image says 2016.
>>740183530>>740182005Why did Sega turn out okay when the Americans came in and said "stop making and porting arcade games and make something that can sell in America" but when Sony of America did it they couldn't manage?
>>740187730That was in an era where it was completely normal for a game to take 1-2 years to be made. Nobody is used to operating on those time frames anymore, it takes them 1 year to even come up with a design doc. It was also in an era with 0 competition, if you made a game, any game, people would look at it because there was only a few releasing every year, now you dump it on steam and you're immediately lost in a flood of indies. Its entirely plausible you spend tens of millions and sell less than 1000 copies, nobody is going to greenlight a sequel.Thats why devs like japan studio were so important because they were both capable of making AAA games and smaller ones and they always had some kind of audience.
>>740188219>Why did Sega turn out okayit didn't, they were a complete joke for decades until yakuza and Atlus recentred them in Japan and the common element is they didn't give a fuck at all if they took off in America, these were teams that only catered to Japan. They are still dealing with megaflops from their western branches like hyenas.
>>740187853the title literally uses present tense you dishonest stinkjeet izzat fuck
I can't believe you retarded niggers are discussing over something that happened 10 years old.
>>740159015>so uuhhhhh.... we need to relocate from japan because.... uhhhh.... shrinking market! yes that'll do...>UUUUHHHHH and no dodging tariffs had nothing to do with it!!1! :))))))))))
>>740188994And then Sega pandered to the West with the Yakuza stuff and they became a joke again.
>>740190021>jan 26, 2016
>>740189417history is important those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it what if sony moves back to california in 10 years after the move back to japan next year?
>>740159015Concord and marathon really fucked them up
>>740189417>10 yearsThat's just two AAA games ago
>>740190337>Naughty Dog's last game was 6 years ago>The one before that was 10 years agoHoly grim
>>740159015It's funny how /v/ 10 years ago thought this was a fucking good thing when it was announced.https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/325332523https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/325547901
Interesting how many angry responses this thread provoked, did being reminded how much worse things have gotten strike a nerve?
>>740159440no one intelligent has ever regurgitated this meme
>>740159015Bros we are going to get so many SotC tier games but with Californian production values, not only that but we will still get plenty of Japanese AA games with indie spirit!The future is so fucking bright for us Sony ponies, for the players!
>>740160330HAS
>>740159440Actually smart people. Retards like you were sitting around 1000 years ago going "infinite growth? are we supposed to purchase a new horse carriage every other month? where would we put all the horses? preposterous!"
>>740163118The fuck are the means of production these days? The stuff China owns? The means of production don't mean shit anymore, but keep feeling smart quoting someone who was a retard 200 years ago and is an outdated retard now.
>>740162462FIFA, Fortnite, Valorant. Xbox being incompetent gave Sony the normalfag audience by default.
Anyone named Ryan can’t be trusted.
>>740192686>>https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/325332523#>https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/325547901#wew
>>740159440don't be anti semetic anon
>>740159440Globalism. Literally Globalism. That's the whole concept. You literally look into growing Countries, Markets then extract everything out of them and then move onto the next one when the market is aged out. Southeast Asia and Latin America are next for the next 14 years.
>>740159015Zoomniggers were retarded kids in 2016, so they didn't even know this. They only play Zoomcraft and Zoomnite and Zoomblox, so it's not like it matters to them either way.
Sony in America has been synonymous with Sony Pictures forever. It's an arm of Hollywood. Expecting them to not be headquarted in Cali and completely woke would be far stranger.
>>740192686Nah>expect more shitty western sony projects
why does sony insist on DEI slop when they burned 400 million with Concord?
>>740178654>why arent rich pedophiles stepping up to stop their buddies from "taking over" their companiesdamn, no idea why thats happenin frogger
>>740159440That kind of system is built for and by the top 1%. Of course when only a few individuals hold the majority of the wealth, they'd see the growth as infinite.
>it only took 10 years for Californians to crash the Playstation
>>740201265A God of War with some random bitch instead of Kratos? What the fuck?
>>740202973You're retarded. This system has massively uplifted the average pleb. Look at what some random retard had in the 1700s and look at what he has now.
>>740159015Funny that's about when they started to suck really bad.
>>740189087>cannot infer from "they just released Bloodborne" that the topic was pointing out this happened back in 2016
>>740159015This article is 10 years old you retards
>>740159015Yup. Around the time they started subverting everything. I sold my PS4 and bought a PC not too long after
>>740164303Most of /v/ is just brownoids ragebaiting
>>740180730>he doesn't know
