Graphics have plateaued. the Switch 2 version of Rebirth barely looks worse and it can run the game well. Why do we need PS6?
>>7401601438 know this is going to turn into some kind of shit flinging thread somewhere down the line but we really don't need a new generation right now or anytime soon.Developers should really get familiar with the hardware like they use to do instead of relying on a new console as a crutch for poor optimization
They should progress into a more anime stylized direction rather than continue to stay stagnated. It’s why ff is floundering
We don't need a PS6, but we need a Nintendo system that can run this ugly shit at more than 30fps.
>>740160364>hardwareThose niggas can't even code, they're just using blueprints on UE5 LMAOOOOOOO
>another brownoid marketing thread that deliberately obfuscates aesthetics with graphical fidelity Stinky smelly subhuman jeet
>>740160143We should strive for games looking the best they can be while running well. Not to butcher it until it runs well enough on an underpowered device.
>>740161452Why? What difference does looking better matter? What are we losing by staying with the Switch 2 look vs the PS5?
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>>740161620its all made for ps3 unreal engine games upscaled for new consoles, so it doesnt matter what shitty console you play on
>barely looks worseWhat, are you on crack?
>>740161452games in the PS3 era already looked good enough. We could've focused on better gameplay/more game content, but instead devs are too focused on skin pores, peach fuzz, and other overrated shit that tanks performance and weakens art direction.I'd rather have a 60h game that runs 60+ fps with PS1 graphics, over a 10 hour game, "cinematic" 30 fps game with whatever the fuck all these companies are obsessed with graphics-wise.This retarded shit is also the sole reason games now take 5+ years to come out instead of getting yearly sequels.
>>740161620For the aesthetic consistency and for the immersion of the world. You can't have that when 20 objects pop into existence right in front of you
>>740162295They could remove every single one of those plants and nobody would notice. Several hours were wasted creating them and populating the world with them.
>>740160143>>740161903switch 2 is missing a ton of assets.
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>>740162382but does this affect how the game plays? Like why do we need these things
>>740162372>hating on pretty flowerswhy?
>>740162382if they weren't so retarded and lazy, they could've simplified the geometry on those retarded chairs and kept at least the fruit bowl or something.They are making the same fucking mistake FF14 originally did, making retarded background assets too detailed.Stylisation will forever win over realism.
>>740160143What the fuck is graphics mode.Is there a no-graphics mode? Can I play text based and ascii pilled?
Looks like a PS3 port of a PS2 game.
>>740162495I don't hate them, just think they are a waste of time and resources, or could've been billboards.They could also add millions of tiny ants and bugs crawling on the floor for extra detail, it'd be the same thing.You are happy with the flowers simply because they are there, and thus you notice when they get removed. if they hadn't been there in the first place you wouldn't be like "why are there no flowers?", same way you aren't wondering why there aren't bugs.
>>740160143Old man who can only play portable and thinks portable pc's are a fucking joke:This is beyond cherry picked, switch 2 looks much worse in a lot of cases.But if you buy a switch 2 to get the best versions of certain games, you are retarded
>>740162463it not only runs slower which causes bad input lag like skyrim on switch but its like missing half the open world elements due to draw distance cuts, vfx removed, characters are downgraded or straight up gone.
>>740160143>and it can run the game wellTendies have stopped pretending to have standards againNow we post steam deck webms of it emulating switch 1 games at 20fps so tendies can back to pretending that they actually do have standards
>>740162627cumsole fags can choose between 2 modes: game looking pretty and running at 20 fps (graphics mode), or game looking like the switch and having 60 fps (performance mode). Just the switch has no choice.
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>>740160143>the Switch 2 version of Rebirth barely looks worse and it can run the game wellTendies need to stop even bothering with third party games and stick to their Nintendo bing bing wahoo. Please. You are fucking up actual gaming discussion.
>>740162372Well the entire point of that section is hiding from chocobos in tall grass so in that specific area, you need it.
>>740160143>Graphics have plateauedNot even close. Graphics still suck and there's so much room for improvement. YOu think FF7 R looks real? KYS!
>>740162717>just think they are a waste of time and resourcesBut they are not, they are a part of a forested area so it makes sense that there are flowers, not to mention you are using them to sneak through so there is a gameplay reason for it.Imagine if the finale of MGS3 didn't have a flower field and grass in them.I would actually question if a forested area doesn't have grass or flowers in them
Crysis 1 looked so next gen and it was like DirectX10 (2007)
>>740160143So they can run even less optimized Jeet code
>>740160143Playing a game on Switch 2 is like playing a game without your glasses on
>>740162408>>740162382>>740160143Because its not running it the same. PS5 runs it at 60fps meanwhile Switch 2 is locked to 30fps and has a lot of detail removed from the game.
>>740163295Meanwhile this scene on other platforms
>>740163363But how necessary is this? it's just a cutscene
>>740163531>you don't need it>why do you need it>it doesn't matter, why do you care?
>>740160364Definitely. This current gen is the first gen I feel like we regressed in graphics quality, entirely because upscalers and frame gen make games look like blurry shit.
>>740163295>>740163363At that point why not just use a prerendered video? Switch owners are already being cucked by gkc with this game so it's not like there's a size limit.
>>740163531That fact that you ask that shows how little artistic integrity you have.>>740163679Then you can't have any of the unlockable costumes shown.
>>740162295>pop into existence right in front of youIt did that on PS5...
>>740163765>That fact that you ask that shows how little artistic integrity you have.artistic integrity isn't endlessly pushing graphics for minute details that don't meaningfully convey anything different
>>740163907>that don't meaningfully convey anything differentIf those two videos aren't meaningfully different to you, then you are blind and not worth discussing with.
>>740162783>>740162826I am asking you once again to post your sunkissed hand, please.
>>740163131>hey are a part of a forested area so it makes sense that there are flowers,Where are the insects, my immersion is ruined without the insects!Face it, PC is going to be the best way to play FF, if you care about "muh graphix" and are too cheap/poor to splash out for a gaming pc you're gonna play it on PS5, if you want to be able to play it anywhere you're gonna play it on S2 because it will do better than the steamdeck or a random clone. I guess if you already had an Xbox and you want an in-between option price-to-performance wise that exists too. What does this post have to do with the main idea of the thread, which is "hey maybe we won't need a PS6 within the next 2 years, especially as component prices are getting out of control"? Especially since you can push graphical innovation by simply...optimizing known hardware even harder?
>>740162382>>740162408switch 2 robbed edition
>>740164060Pretty impressive for Barrett to do all that one-handed ngl
>>740160143Normies don't need anything other than a Switch 2 nowadays, it gets all the games plus Nintendo exclusives which are the most popular. It's over.
>>740163995what meaning is lost without seeing mroe hair flowing
>>740164328>all games>5 year old ports that run like ass
>>740163295>>740163363oh mygod
I think games should be developed on the Switch 2 as the main platform from now on, and then scale up from there for other platforms instead of the contrary. Ys X Nordics did this back with the Switch 1 for instance.>>740164328I can agree to this unless you're some kind of AAA enjoyer (lol) and this is more how hard the diminishing returns are nowadays. Switch 2 is more than enough for the hardcore videogame enjoyer like myself.Even the day I have to replace my PC build, I'll disregard the need to own a dedicated graphic card and instead stick to a iGPU.
>>740162463>he doesn’t like taking the time to look around set pieces to see what the devs did or a little bit of insight into characters based on what they have in their homes>he needs to speed run games asap in order to move on and consume next new productTruly niggerish
Why are bings so simultaneously delusional and insecure?
>>740165137>playing a videogame normally is now considered as "speedrunning"lol
>>740160143>series S>costs 300$ on release in 2020>6 years later it still plays every new title>forces devs to bend the knee and optimize their shit>beats the steamdeck and switch 2 in performance is this the greatest value console ever made?
>>740165432Needed an disc reader as an option, not really confortable with a completely locked down digital microshart devices, already had bad experiences with surfaces.
>>740160143Where is the comparison with Steam Deck?
>>740166129https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7rQYovJqUYSwitch 2 is better
>>740162295>no foliage is better actuallykek
>>740160143im buying the ps6 portable myself
>>740165432>>740165802>runs games worse than an Nvidia tabletIt really was a mistake lol
>>740160143>Cherry picked image Now show the Grasslands comparison and see how much better the PS5 looks, and we could bring PC into this, but that's overkill. Switch 2 has no foliage in the Grasslands, and most of the charm/assets were removed from shops and buildings. It might be "little" things to Switch players, but it looks worse imo.
>>740166974>60 fps>worse than 30 This has to be a false flag
>>740166851but do these flowers make gameplay better
>>740168903Yes, the game is about meadows and frolicking.
>>740162627Yes
>>740160143>30fps>run the game wellLMAO get this guy outta 'ere
>>740161452psst, wanna know a secret?releasing on Switch 2 is making games run better on other consoles
>>740170237No, you just get butchered versions while everyone else gets the non-butchered ones.
>>740160143Switch2 is a big downgrade and the objectively worst way to play it, cope.
>>740162295Jesus lmao
>>740171921thats not how games work anonhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khtIYwT_WOs&t=237s
>>740162640t. alphy who never touched a ps2 or ps3 in its pathetic life
>>740172056It is. You get completely stripped versions of other games. Until they run. Like always.
>>740164353The beauty of the moment and being distracted by something that looks laughably bad.
>>740172171so you're just going to stick your head in the sand and yell "nuhuh", got itguess you're fucked then
>>740172272Look at your multiplats. That's exactly how it is. RE9 didn't run any better because of the Shitch. It just got stripped down to nothing to be able to run on the Shitch after the fact. Stop being an idiot.
>>740172316see you tomorrow in the famitsu thread!
>>740172056That is literally how it works. Your own example shows it.
>>740172489I respect the mentally disable too much to waltz into an hospice like that.
>>740160143do you have poor eyesight by any chance?
>>740162581just like every other AAA dev these days they just buy half their unoptimized slop assets from third party marketplaces like turbosquid
>>740162463Video games are primarily a visual medium. How it looks is important to your experience. You don't excuse a movie being poorly shot just because the script is good.
>>740164050so you just wanna play on a grey grid with nothing in front of you? get real.
>>740174704But isn't there a point where it's enough? must we always want every last bit of foliage