>a character that you knew as kind and caring from games taking place later on in the series chronology was actually a huge asshole before their big character development arcI love this trope.
I love Aoko (I have never read mahou tsukai)
Anyone who read Kara no Kyoukai before the filthy secondaries invaded the Nasuverse already knew about this.Total fatekiddie death
>>740161219Did the novels have more exposition about the Aozaki sibling rivalry? The movies didn't go into it more than "Touko really doesn't get along with her sister".
>>740161364Yeah, that's where the Aoko stealing the MGoDP story comes from.
Mahoyo bump...
Sweater puppies
Do you prefer Takeuchi or Koyama as an art director?
>>740164131Takeuchi has stagnated horribly over the years and for me the Tsuki R designs were the final nail in the coffin. Koyama hasn't really improved in that time but his designs haven't gotten any worse.
>>740164763I get where you're coming from but I also couldn't deny that remake Arcueid is hella cute.
Why did they include Alice in Aoko's origin game if she simply existed to completely steal and and all thunder from her? Aoko is a shitter until the last hour of the game. You spend most of it fawning over the severely autistic Alice and her super cool nursery rhyme magic
>>740160848I don't know how soujuurou just took itI would've crashed out
>>740165193Is the remake really that bad? The og game genuinely looks rough and since the initial release so much of the nasuverse has been retconned and changed. The new game looks amazing, has an updated script, and is canon
>read Mahoyo>now suffer eternally over the lack of part 2 and 3That was a mistake
>>740160848>kind and caringshe's just a pedophile
>>740165193I mean I've hated those designs since they were first revealed in fucking 2008 or whenever it was, it's been too long now.
>>740165834He's from deep deep in the inaka, so he's like quintiple Japanese.
>>740167340Where's the contradiction?
>>740160848Part of me likes to think that we never got Mahoyo 2 because Nasu realized he peaked with it and would never be able to follow-up with another self-contained story not connected to Holy Grail War bullshit ever again.I know that's not true though and the real reason is just that Nasu's a lazy cunt know and he and Takeuchi make too much money off F/GO gacha whales to care at this point.
>>740160848
Aoki OWES me paizuri
>>740169797
>>740169797You cant even spell her name fuck off
>>740160848Aoko is so god damn cute it's unreal
>>740167263I had no idea it was originally meant to be a trilogy, so imagine my surprise when it just randomly ended with a bunch of things unresolved.
I wish I had a gf
>>740169797>AokiHow about you kill yourself?
>>740169797Aoki? Steve Aoki?
>>740166168my problems with the remake are less to do with the art changes and more that nasu got extremely hollywood brained and redid the entire setting of the novel to be in the middle of tokyo because he couldnt stand the idea of tsukihime taking place outside of it
>>740166168Remake is better than OG. People who hate on Remake are secondaries pretending to be OG fans.
>>740160848>Character you knew as kind and caring became bitter and cruel during a timeskip>But she goes right back to her old self around you, and only for you.
>>740160848I want to lovingly rim Aoko's huge asshole if you know what I mean
>>740172640I heard about huge asses, but...a huge asshole?
Psycho Aoko best Aoko.
>>740172757The kind you would call a shitter
>>740172346>if you aren't a fan of the multi-hour long apocalyptic kaiju fight you never were a fan of the small-scale OG story
"A" is for Aoko and Anal.
>>740173301That fight sucks but judging the whole remake by that alone is pretty sillyNTA but everything around Noel is pure kino
>>740173482Noel sucks.Vlov sucks.Arach sucks.The (mostly)improved visuals and soundtrack are good but almost every other change was for the worse.So no, it's not better.
>>740173897Sorry son you just have shit taste, or you read Tsukihime at a very impressionable age and wanted to hate anything new in the remake. If anything TsukiR is proof Nasu still kinda has it when he's not obsessed with gachaslop.Mahoyo mogs both OG and remake anyway
>>740173897>Noel sucks.Shut up
>>740160848Aoko already threatened Shiki with violence as her first lines
>>740169901Yeah? What about her left sidelock?
>>740165678I feel like literally everyone who reads Mahoyo walks away like this. You pick it up because Aoko is the hottest woman in the extended TM universe, you're going through the story and think no heroine will ever be better, and then you're in the middle of tea or dinner with Alice and realize, oh, Aoko can only ever be number two because Alice is perfect and maybe it's better that we never get a sequel so that she never loses
>>740165834He's a mountain man far removed from most civilization before game begins. There's already implied supernatural aspect what he became, that's assuming you don't factoring the part where he have a deficiency in automated motor control, so he literally needs to consciously control all of his limbs manually
The reverse is better where a game has a character who is an asshole now but earlier in their life they were nice. Billions must die.
>>740160848I only know this woman from Tsukihime as Shiki's teacher. I don't know what kind of girl she was before that game I won't know until the movies come out because I've become too lazy to read.
aoko is a bum ass nigga
>>740174918Read the fucking VN it's even voice acted now.Don't tell me you usually watch anime adaptations instead of reading anon. Even for Tsukihime?
>>740174928How could she be a nigga if she's Japanese?
>>740175020Nah I read Tsuki OG I'm just lazy now... It's why I haven't read the remake.
Aoko being an asshole makes sense when even her adult form is a vandal that does around stealing shit and blowing things up. We know her basically only from Shiki where she's pretty aloof and Touko who hates her and seems pretty reasonable from her own side.The real mystery is how she goes from having a stick up her ass and living high to being a backpacker that probably doesn't wash her ass
>>740174918Her movie is going to be pure fucking shit, ufotable struggled with Shirou, nu-Ufotable with butcher Soujuurou
So this game is a prequel to Tsukihime? I was planning to start reading Tsukihime but do I need to read this first?
>>740175289>The real mystery is how she goes from having a stick up her ass and living high to being a backpacker that probably doesn't wash her assthis desu. now that I've experienced the former, I don't care for her hillbilly backpacker future self.
>>740175289I would say she's wandering around looking for a way to bring back Soujuuro without incurring the wrath of the counter force again, but then again she doesn't seem too pressed for time. I'm more curious what Alice is doing if she's still around. I should probably read the shitty FGO event on youtube but it's hard to force myself to.Also I would wash it for her
>>740175360No, you don't. It takes place before Tsukihime chronologically, but aside from Aoko's character the connections between Tsukihime and Mahoyo are rather loose.
>>740175360No. It's completely irrelevant aside from giving you backstory on Aoko, who's largely an offscreen character in Tsuki. If anything it's more important as a prequel to KnK since it goes into detail on why Touko despises Aoko so much but even that doesn't really matter for KnK's story. You can read it after and lose nothing.
>>740175360Either order works, the original story for Mahoyo came first but the VN came later. Aoko is barely in Tsukihime anyway
>>740175360same verse but it's a disconnected story. the only connection it really has to tsuki is aoko shows up at the beginning. and no one knew who she was back then anyway since her story wasn't released until way later.>>740175289alice probably kicked her out and she's so abrasive and a hazard to people, she can't stay in one place for long. and she never washed her ass. remember the stinky underwear?
>>740175653>Mahoyo>>740175679>KnKI'm new to all of this so what does this mean?
>>740175606Soujurou is working as a detective with Tobimaru in the present and Alice is still doing the same witch shit. I hope both are in Twilumina by the time it's done with DLC, it'll be much harder for them to get in if they're not in before Trilumina.
>>740161219KnK is exclusively a secondary series, retard, the adaptions are the main way anyone experienced them not Nasu’s shitty ass high school wanna be LNs
>>740176159Mahoyo is Mahou Tsukai no Yoru, the visual novel that the thread is mostly about.KnK is Kara no Kyoukai, originally a web novel series from the late 90s, but far better known nowadays as a movie series by ufotable.The two are loosely connected through the overarching story of the sibling rivalry between Touko (>>740161219) and Aoko (the girl in the OP).
FGO ruined everything
>>740176328I still read Cokesato's fanfic tier translations of them back in the day, crazy how much of a genuine lover i was pre-gachaslop
>>740176695That's a name that you don't tend to hear nowadays lol.
>>740176864sister lesbian hatesex
>>740176864Touko my beloved
The better Mahoyo
>>740176436So what is the reading/watching order of all of this stuff?
Does anything interesting happen in her FGO event? I dumped all my quartz to roll for her, failed, then lost motivation to play.
>>740177584Whatever you want the level of connection tends to be pretty low and most every franchise in the extended universe stands alone. You can honestly just read Mahoutsukai no Yoru and full stop there though. If you're not a reader just wait for the new Melty Blood fighting game, play that, then consider checking out works related to whatever character you end up liking.
>>740177678Not really it's just an excuse to see Aoko, Alice and Soujurou hang out again and as far as doing that goes it's good. Feels like more Mahoyo despite all the FGO in it.
>>740177678SAME bro I hate FGO's outdated shit amount of currency and 300 roll pity that used to be no pity at all.
>>740177584It doesn't matter as long as you don't read a direct sequel to its original. So don't read/play Kagetsu Tohya or Melty Blood before Tsuki, Hollow Ataraxia before Stay Night, CCC before Extra or Umbral Star before Extella.I guess a good baseline is reading FSN and Tsuki and Mahoyo and watching KnK and from there you can pretty much do whatever youre interested in
Aoko is sexBut where is the sequel? it's been a while since i've read it but I remember finding the ending disapointing
>>740176864I can fix her
>>740178437we just gotta get through... the fate extra remake. and the tsukihime remake. and whatever fgo content... I've already given up on a proper VN sequel and I hope they just call it and release some light novels.
>>740178437Sorry Nasu is too busy making boring stories in FGO. Come back in a decade or two.
>>740178641Wasn't FGO done and over with?
>>740173096where does this aoko swimsuit design originate from? i've seen it multiple times
>>740179403Yeah sure it's "done". But now they're onto part 3 of the game, which takes place one second before the end of part 2. And yes Nasu is involved so it's not over yet. Milkingn it until EoS.
>>740170039I still think is worth reading did like it a lot.
>>740160848seems like what they're doing with sans. he's a dickhead in Deltarune.
>>740179585oh fucking damn it
>>740176864_____ ___>>740179406Koyama has given her several swimsuit designs but this is still the best art
>>740179585>which takes place one second before the end of part 2Holy fuck, this man's shamelessness knows no bounds. I thought the Ordeal Call prologue was on the nose when Da Vinci basically said "the world is blocking us from the final boss before we go through this filler episode!"
>>740180412god i wish she would just fucking own me
>>740180648She has that effect on people!
>>740181237aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
>a character that you knew as a degenerate shotacon from games taking place later on in the series chronology was actually a musclefag before their big character development arc
>>740181909What a Stacy...
>>740181909Yeah, Arnie canonically exists in the Nasuverse, alongside with Bill Clinton.
>>740181909have you seen shiki naked? he's a beast.
>>740183286He was not when they met (probably)
>>740184208I hadnt noticed until now but they probably added the bandage on his neck so he'd remind her of mountain man
this thread makes me want to kill myself and have another shot at life and youth
>>740185380personally i just want to meet a 30+ year old woman who looks good in a white t-shirt and blue jeans
Where should I start with the Nasu vns? I want to read fate and the meme cat vn, but should I start with something else?
>>740186872>I want to read fate and the meme cat vnThen read those. Both are good starting points. Don't force yourself to read a VN you have no interest in. That's a good way to burn yourself out.
>>740185380So you can sexually harass older women while getting a free pass as a kid?
>>740187106But will there be references that I won't understand?
>>740189192Nothing major. Tsukihime and Fate/Stay Night do a good job of being stand alone works.
>>740189192There's a small reference to Kara no Kyoukai at the end of Fate, but otherwise no they are separate things.
>>740161034>I have never read mahou tsukaiWell, yeah, you wouldn´t like her if you did.
>>740177678Nothing particularly interesting for Aoko, but both Sono-G and Alice have plot points for mahoyo 2/3 teased in really cool ways
>>740189468I haven't read it but just seeing those things "teased" (spoiled) in their crappy noble phantasm animations pissed me off so fucking bad, I hate Nasu and FGO so much
>>740189468>mahoyo 3what hubris
>>740189578I dont mind the storytelling in fgo, but yeah, the fact that they tease us like this and we've had to wait this long is really infuriating..>>740189591THE MAHOYO MOVIE WILL REINVIGORATE NASU I SWEAR
>>740189845>THE MAHOYO MOVIEthey have to have the sequel in the work otherwise there would be no point in a movie now.I need more aoko!!
>>740160848name 3
>>740190140>they have to have the sequel in the work otherwise there would be no point in a movie now.You never know with Type-Moon nonnie..Aoko gets mogged in her own game
>>740190274>Aoko gets mogged in her own gameNoWell, maybe by Touko
>>740190534They knew what they were doing with this scene
>>740180412Dirty sex?
>>740190274Don't talk like that or things will get gay very quickly fgofag Alicenon.>>740190818lol she wishesActually was wondering if they planned a Willy Wonka appearance for any of the mahoyo sequels, I kinda miss that creepy fuck. Still hilarious that he has incredibly OP magecraft he never got to use once on screen.
>>740191040
>>740191040If only had he kept his mouth shut.
>>740170039Nasu did say he wanted to continue it a few years ago but it may end up being in movie format instead of VN now
I love Aoko's Aokos.
I want to kill nonhuman filth.
>>740174273The same way Wada Arco fawns over Meltryllis and considers Meltryllis to be the most perfect thing she's ever created, Tatsu feels the same way about Alice, he believes she's just perfect and the greatest thing he's ever drawn and everything else is a downgrade from Alice
>>740191830>woman thinks her flat woman character is her greatest creation
>>740189468>look it up>they both fucking dieoh no
>>740192170Wada Arco loves Melt's casual sensuality and how well she drew Melt's ass in particular. There's interviews where Wada just gushes over Melt's ass for a good few minutes
>>740190274AAAAAA I AM GOING TO ALICE
>>740191830but Kronii is Wada's greatest creation.
>>740191830>Tatsu feels the same way about Alice, he believes she's just perfect and the greatest thing he's ever drawn and everything else is a downgrade from AliceThat's a weird thought since Takeuchi has a lot of archetypes he draws over and over but Alice doesn't fit into any of them. She's really distinct from the series of Akihas (really Aokos) or his blond womens or his series of purple haired kouhai characters
>>740192612I feel like that makes more sense. Alice feels perfect, so he isn't recreating her, he's already perfected it. But his other ones, he's trying to make one that feels like Alice does. He also said Alice is his most erotic design
>>740173897>Noel sucksYou are a faggot.
>>740183286Shiki is a weakling.
>>740190140Ufotable only does movie trilogies these days
>>740192612Why is Nasu so hung up on the Asagami Fujino archetype?
