>7 has three different girls you can go on a date with>7 is the most popular game in the series>All other games have canon love interests you can't change (or have none)Why?
>>740164362Garnet is better than any girl in 7 or 8 though. Plus I am pretty sure Zidane fucked the rat girl too.
>>740164538>Plus I am pretty sure Zidane fucked the rat girl too.No, that's just you coping from the fact that a whole nation of rats were genocided in front of you and as a furfag you just had to sit there and watch it all happen but you have to convince yourself you like IX since there are furries in it so you made up some thing about Zidane fucking a rat.
>>740164362>Why?Nomura got one-itis for his waifu Rinoa and he and Nojima removed the other options and then that convention took permanent hold of the franchise.
>>740164362Tifa is canon. The dates are just to give the Gold Saucer more content, and aren't even romantic. Cloud would not seriously date Yuffie or Barret.
>>740164362>>All other games have canon love interests you can't changeFF1 has no love interest FF2 doesn't really have one either FF3 I guess the princess randomly rewards you with her pussy FF4 yes probably the first FF that really has one because the entire Kain arc revolves around you fucking Rosa and he's mad about it FF5 haven't played it FF6 haven't played it FF7 you can date whomever you want but it's obviously Tifa and Advent Children supports that FF8 is a novela nigga what did you expect FF9 obvious FF10 Yuna obvious FF12 Vaan is a homosexual FF13 no canon love interest for Lightning FF15 His girlfriend dies like 1/3 into the game FF16 Jill is the best waifu
>>740165578>Stopping at TerraI'd say Lenna got robbed, but no one cares about Lenna. It's Rosa who gets robbed by not being in this pic.
>>740165386He fucked her before the events of the game
>>740165728>5 and 6>haven't playedThen shut up, leave this thread, and play them.
>>740164362Garnet mogs hard
>>740166221I played all of them except those two because I haven't felt like it, faggot. Kill yourself.
>>740166989I'm not asking.
>>740165386NTA, but Zidane and Freya have a fade to black scene in the Lindblum bar after which Zidane wakes up from a bed.>>740165728I: None. (In some continuities Princess Sarah.)II: Maria. Unfortunately.III: Princess Sara. She wants the Onion Kids to be her harem.IV: Rosa. TAY: None.V: The girl from Lix village. People meme the harem, but the anime doesn't agree.VI: None.VII: Aerith. BC: None. DoC: Shelke. CC: Aerith, I guess. Rm/Rb: Aerith.VIII: Rinoa.IX: Dagger.X: Yuna. X-2: Tidus. X-2.5: Jolt. X-Will-: None.XII: Penelo. RW: Penelo.XIII: None. XIII-2: Snow. LR: Toriyama.XV: Lunafreya.XVI: Jill.
>>740164538Yeah cuz midgets are so hot..
>>7401672026 has none because Locke gets all the girls.
>>740167541Then the answer would be Locke. Obviously I don't agree with you. If I were to ship Terra with anyone it'd either be Leo or Mash.
>>740165386>projecting this hardkek
>>740164362Aerith is the canon romantic interest of 7. They gave extra options so the player didn't have to end up "alone" in all playthroughs and they wouldn't throw a fit. The sequels make it abundantly clear Aerith is the one Cloud loved.The reason they dropped it is because it became a shitshow were players in 7 became unable to accept the actual love interest and square keeps falling into this cycle of giving fanservice so Tifa fans won't lynch them. It overtakes the story, it's not worth it.
>>740165791>but no one cares about Lenna.You've quoted the wrong guy, because Lenna is one of the seven perfect 10/10 FF girls and my ninth favorite girl in the franchise.
>>740168068Or! Or they could just come out and say, who's canon and that the others are for fans! And, voila, there's no problem.
>>740168068Kill yourself.
>>740166876Agreed.Canon thong leotard puts her over the top.
>>740164362You seen the discussion in VII? do you really want that for the other games?
10 works just like 7 though, you can raise your affinity with Lulu or Rikku and it changes some scenes but you end up with Yuna anyway.
>>740165728Cloud pining for Aerith and sleeping in her church while rejecting Tifa and ignoring her calls supports she's the romantic interest? How exactly?
>>740168612Did you see the shitshow after the TGA Rebirth trailer? Fans knew there would be multiple dates, they just show only one in the trailer for continuity, and people were still ready to murder Nojima. Japanese people even, when they value respect.
>>740169265That's guilt, anon, he also beat her up just before she died,Cloud set in motion the course that led to her death.
Even after all these years, she still has the most glorious butt in the entire franchise
>>740167202>VII: Aerith.WRONG FAGGOT
>>740169482Why do they parallel his guilt to Vincent's, whose guilt is romantic in nature? Why are only Cloud and Aerith called lovers in the novel?
>>740169265>>740169692Yeah I'm sure Cloud is going to have sex and reproduce with some dead bitch rather than the childhood slut he always wanted to fuck and wanted to become a hero for. NIGGER HE'S PUMPING KIDS INTO TIFA TIFA TIFA
>>740169472These morons killed the possibility of a linear story. Now instead of having a third game focused on Tifa after the second one being focused on Aerith we'll get Aerith fanservice in the third game as well.
>>740169692Because he did love her, but it is unrequited in death, like Vincent's, leading to crushing guilt, like Vincent.
>>740169837Holy mental illness. He refuses to sleep with her. He takes in a kid Aerith sent him and has her taking care of him. Her only child is Marlene and her father is Barret.
>>740164362I don't know how anyone plays Final Fantasy. You must have all played these as kids because as an adult I can't get in to them. Carried by nostalgia.
>>740169973what?
>>740164362not a single good game there
Haremshit is awful, especially in story oriented games. I'm glad they moved on to canon romance.
>>740164362They regret not making Aerith the only option.
>>740170042Cloud is afraid he will fail Tifa, too, so he keeps her at arms length.Fear and guilt fuck you up, man.>>740170130He loved Aerith, but believes he failed her the moment she needed him. He rejects Tifa because of his self loathing.
>>740167516Its why he had to try so hard to get girlsthe ladies just threw themselves at cloud/squall
>>740170502Sounds like headcanon. I would believe it if they followed through and made them a couple. Instead they double down on calling them childhood friends in DoC. And have Cloud looking for Aerith in the spinoffs. I do believe he fears losing his newfound family, but it's obvious he never gets over Aerith and keeps wishing to reunite with her.
>>740164362in 7 Nomura had yet put enough disguise on his nasty secondhand fap material he plagiarizedso this Hgame cheap whore he jizzed over since 1993(=97-4) aka Tifa is never anything else than an irrelevant obscene gag material in 7.
>Another Aerith vs Tifa thread29 fucking years! MAKE IT STOP!
>>740170697Not so much headcanon as I have seen that kind of thing irl.Ironically, Cloud loves Aerith now than when she was alive. She has consumed him.
>>740169472I didn't particularly see it, but I was in all the sides of the shipper circles at the start until "The proof" debacle, where I renounced the whole thing until Square-Enix declared one, which I knew would never happen, so I know how fucking awful and crazy all of the sides are, so I can imagine how it was this time.So, yes, Square-Enix may recently be more overt in action in the Remake series about Clerith and Clotis may be angry and feel that Square-Enix has extracted money from them and jerked them around all these years for backing the wrong horse, but everyone knows the score. No one can pretend to not know after these decades: Square-Enix will never say anything out loud and thus make anything definite.I personally think they should've revealed the truth and canonized it five or ten years after VII, when everyone had had their fun. It would've calmed the fanbase, just like other volatile fanbases, where many think the author chose wrong. There's no actual need to fear making games with love triangles, if you're straightforward with the fanbase. This choice has probably cost them more money franchisewide than they took in from one game being ambiguous.
>>740169685Seems consistent with the facts and statements. I'm being as unbiased as I can.
>>740164362Aerith was the love interest of 7. But Nomura's waifu was Tifa, he tells the staff they should kill Aerith and make Tifa the heroine and brags about this in an interview.Then he gets cold feet and makes Tifa's big romantic scene optional and based on affection points, "to not force her on the player".Fast forward and he grows more chicken shit. Instead of making his waifu win like he wanted, he keeps backtracking, showing Cloud unhappy even after AC, and reunites Cloud and Aerith in kingdom hearts.Don't know what's up with the guy, if he was threatened or Aerith's ghost appeared to him or if he's just an idiot.
>>740170942It's not that. Aerith was going to die so they wanted her to go out with a bang. But people threw the tantrum of their life and they made Tifa fanservice. Third game was going to be Tifa's turf, but they are so obsessed with "fairness" they will include Aerith fanservice now.
>>740169637And the devs even had her cut her hair to make it easier to see too.
>>740167202There is no way that Zidane and Freya have sex, she's married and way older than him and a different species.
>>740167202>VI: None.6's romance is obviously Locke x Celes, it doesn't HAVE be the main character.
Why is no one mentioning Aerith's real love interest is Zack?
GIVE ME YUNA OUTFIT ALREADY
>>740171702You do realize the game was done before the trailers right? No one rushed to include content after the fact, the backlash was anticipated.
>>740172237Mate zack and aerith have like two romantic scenes, while she has 50 with cloud and even more in spinoffs. Aerith calls cloud her lover in the lifestream and this was written after CC
>>740172261Want Rinoa
>>740166876A real princess!
>>740172035yeah but can we also admit that her chaning her name to "Dagger" was dumb as fuck?
>>740172261Who is Tifa supposed to be?
>>740172534Think they will give rinoa to tifa. Her fans sperged too hard over both ff6 and 9 collabs already.
>>740172550That is fair.
I see Aerithfags complaining because Tifa's date is shown in the switch trailer and their dumb song is not even mentioned. I thought you didn't care huh?
>>740172550Just use inputs and change it to Kris which is usably androgynous while still being a knife type weapon.
>>740164362It was a mistake and should never happen againIf you want dating shit in your RPGs, play Persona. It's the main reason why people play it in the first place.
>>740172748Weren't tifa fans the ones who say trailers don't matter since theme song trailer was basically just a clerith trailer
>>740172654Nah, there's 0 chance of that happening. For some reason they've been strict about giving Aerith the ff heroine role in collabs, even when EC pushes Tifa hard.They know they will give it to Aerith and that's why they're stalling with the other ff collabs, they fear the backlash.
>>740172781No. But I will just keep as Garnet and just pretend that stupid plot point ever existed
>>740172926You said it made clerith canon but now that's it's a cloti trailer you are to embarrassed to mention it cowards.
>>740164362>7 is also the shittiest game and gets no discussions outside of haremshit with the 3 basic bitchesSquareslop at it's "finest"
>>740164362>7 has three different girls you can go on a date withOne dies and another is an optional party member that has no story relevance.
>>740173081Cloti trailer? Pretty sure it had like 3 clerith scenes in it But I mean if you want to use it as a point towards cloti date you can. I think there is still a lot more evidence going against you though
>>740172560Amarant. Tifa gets the Monk outfits in the games.
>>740164362No video game has ever had a good romance
>>740172560The monk. EC started with fixed roles of Cloud - Protagonist Aerith - Heroine Tifa - Monk EtcBut Tifa fans had a MASSIVE meltdown when they didn't get Celes for VI and got Sabin instead. To the point EC stopped other ff collabs. They've only done XIII since then, where they gave Lightning to Aerith Tifa Cloud and Sephiroth, which I found hilarious.
>>740173164Tifa does have some party relevance though
>>740172237>Why is no one mentioning the secondhand bullshit some other illiterate cucks shoved into muh uncultured coombrain.
>>740173236Backtracking now because you can't claim Aerith is the canon date or the canon Rosa huh, I see how it is.
>>740173164The protagonist wants to reunite with the one who died at the end of the game. Wonder why they put that in huh
>>740172237Because canonically he's not. In any continuity besides Crisis Core in a bubble.
>>740173384That's sad, I like monks.
>>740164362Because dating sim elements are a meme, and it’s harder to write a focused and well developed romance unless it’s pre-determined.8 was originally going to have 7’s dating elements, but it was scrapped because it undermined the core themes of the game.
>>740173698? I can still easily claim those things.For rosa it's very simple:She is rosa in creditsShe is rosa in 90% of trailers and promosShe was rosa in EC collabThe game defaults to her being rosa on barrets, reds and cait date even if your affection is higher with tifa/yuffie than aerithShe is a magic and staff user like rosaShe got introduced alongside the pheonix summon that rosa usesCould probably go on. What does tifa have? I guess this trailer?
>>740173012The last line of dialogue in the game references the fact that she gave herself a nickname based on a weapon.
>>740164362They grew more serious about the story in further entries.The story in 7 is cool but stuff like the romance is nebulous because they give you options. One enhances the story of the game, the other lets you not end up alone. As good as they are, the optionality undermines both, they realized this and removed the feature.
Sephiroth is best girl.>"I will not end, nor will I have you end."
>>740164362yufie is cute
>>740173807Getting angry at being fucking Sabin is definitely one of the lowest points for Tifa fans. The ignorance was palpable.
>>740174140Aerith is best girl because she wants Cloud to move on and be happy. Tifa wants the same thing but in a bitchy manner.
Final fantasy 7 is just evangelion but for video games. Aerith vs tifa is just asuka vs rei but for video games. The ff7 remake trilogy is just the evangelion rebuilds.
>>740174240Asuka vs Rei is just Betty vs Veronica for weebs.
>>740174240And Sephiroth is Mari or whoever that other bitch is.
>>740164362Yuffie is not a real love interest.
>>740172875>If you want dating shit in your RPGs, play Persona. It's the main reason why people play it in the first place.Personafags deny this and get highly offended when you suggest this howeverbeit
Tifa fags brag about Tifa being a "normal" girl and a cool fighter, but have melties when she's given the monk outfits instead of the mahou shoujo ones, it's pathetic. For a valentine pic they got upset because she wore an apron with blue ribbons because it was a "boy" color. Their mental illness is unparalleled.
>>740173950You haven't seen the credits in rebirth switch idiot.
I'm glad FFXVI doesn't have a retarded love triangle with the main protagonist. Just Clive fucking Jill.
>>740172457They're setting up a reunion.
>>740175002I really can't see them cucking the MC in one of the romance paths. I would despise Aerith if that happens. I'm fine with cloud and tifa and cloud and aerith, but zerith is so dogshit
>>740175002Yes, Cloud and Aerith's, with Zack's support.
>>740173950The skirt of the costume tailored specifically for Aerith was either too short or too long for the other two imposters.
>>740174518That's why they're Personafags
>>740174518>>740175942I don’t know how they could deny it when Persona only became popular as a franchise with Persona 3, and that’s the game they introduced the dating sim elements in. Atlus and BioWare both realised that their RPGs made more money as glorified dating sims. FF removed dating sim elements because they felt it didn’t serve the games.
>>740175870Yea.. there is a lot. The fact that she is default for 4/6 of the dates should be enough other stuff is just extra.
for me? its lightning
>>740173384I just checked, and the only games they did this for are 6, 9, and 13 for some reason. It seems easy to do it for all the games.
For me? Its garnet 2
Dissidia Aerith is CUTE!
Cloud should just jump universes and hook up with Lightning. I mean, Aerith's seiyuu.
>>740176825Do what?
>>740164362Tifa is so sexually frustrated. Rinoa and Garnet seem to be satisfied.
>>740177021>this game will die in the west before aerith and tifa get put inSucks
>>740177341Cloud, Tifa, and Aerith in the characters' costumes. Though you could probably add Barret for most of them anyway.
>>740176140>FF removed dating sim elements because they felt it didn’t serve the games.This would make sense if they didn't work tirelessly to remove most gameplay elements from the series as well.
>>740176162Cleriths are such hypocrites. Now the trailer apparently doesn't matter
I like Tifa and prefer her over Aerith, but let's not pretend FFVII og doesn't ship Cloud and Aerith way harder. Yes, collecting memories in the Lifestream and the night dialogue was cool, but for the rest of the game? It was Cloud and Aerith.
>>740176140>>740172875Persona 3 would be better if they got rid of the inferior options and just made Yukari canon
>>740171469He matured and is now embarrassed of his previous blatant gooning.It's why no other ff character has their breasts as their "defining feature".
>>740164362
How would Sakaguchi handle the romance in remake if he came back?
>>740178485I can't tell if you are baiting. I said you can use trailer as evidence, but there is already multiple trailers with aerith as rosa and showing her date, so really what do you gain from it? It's like saying two players have the same passing accuracy and that means they are equal, despite you ignoring defending, shooting etc. How is this a hard concept to grasp?
>>740164362Third wheel girls are great.Yuffie, Selphie, Eiko, Rikku, Penelo etc
Would Tifa fans accept Quistis Tifa or would there be another meltdown?Zell is out, they would kill themselves.
>>740179185You don't want to admit Tifa's date is canon because you know Cloud only kissed Tifa and she would automatically win, even though she's in the trailer and that was your requirement before.
Since childhood i could never understand the appeal of princess-like archetypes. Aerith is dreadfully boring both in design and personality, Garnet has a nice ass but she's a massive fuckup story wise who literally pushes her own country to the brink of annihilation because of her own stupidity.
>>740174187> Imagine Scarlet finds her like that.
>>740179937What? I say it's not canon since it's not. Why do you schizos invent arguments that were never said. Aerith's date is more romantic anyway so don't know how tifa wins. Cloud even worries about aerith's feelings on tifa's date.
>>740165386Oh no... He's back...
>>740177959It’s literally the reason given by Nomura and Nojima as to why FF8 scrapped its planned dating mechanics, so that’s why I said that.
>>740180438None of that is Garnet's fault. In fact, she noticed the queen was crazy and tried to stop it.
>>740182748She literally poisons the entire court of her own uncle, runs away and gives her mother the nuclear codes on a silver platter. All of it could be avoided if she remained in Lindblum.
>>7401643627 has a canon love interest that you get no matter what you do too.Its more like they realized having a date system was pointless if they're gonna stick you with the canon option anyways.Interestingly though, they did bring back the affection points for 10 to decide who rides with you on the ski bike.
>>740178494Holy cope. There is literally nothing with Aeris that comes close to the lifestream sequence, finding out how connected they were since childhood, and actually having sex. It's not even comparable lol
>>740182870While that event expedited things. It wouldn't have stopped anything. Kuja was already whispering in her ear, already supplying her with summons and the mage army and the queen was already using that to wage war.
>>740176249Sauce!SAUCE ME RIGHT FUCKING NOW!
>>740180438Aerith is nothing like a princess at all. She looks like a pious girl, but it's actually easygoing. Tifa is the shy one, despite her clothes.
>>740182870Wouldn't change a thing since Brahne and Kuja already had Odin, Atomos, etc
>>740183624Your cope, maybe. Couldn't care less about Clerith or Cloti, incel.
>>740183714>>740184330It's not about "changing things", it's about Garnet being a dumbass. At the very least she could try not making things worse.
>>740180438Aerith is the fun one, Tifa is the brain dead one, play the game.
>>740183624Finding out you weren't childhood friends, Cloud was excluded as a child, and your dead anon optional sex?
>>740184858*headcanon
>>740164362It's funny seeing square enix trying to make it blatant that Aerith was always the love interest while walking on eggshells to not get murdered.When anyone with a brain noticed since the OG.
>>740165791>no one cares about Lennano one cares about FFV period
>>740180438imo, Tifa has a personality like princess Lenna in V, while Aerith is more like Faris, but with their roles inverted.
How would an EC IV crossover be?Cloud - CecilAerith - RosaTifa - YangYuffie - Edge?Who would be Cain? Barret?
>>740184627She did try to do that though but was swept up by powers beyond her control.
>>740180438Ironically, Tifa's lack of personality combined with her slutty clothes is what makes her catnip to incels.
>>740185090She was *a love interest but Tifa was literally his childhood crushed and nursed him back to health. This is objectively the love interest
>>740185280>Tifa has a personality like princess Lenna in VNo, she doesn't. Tifa could never be headstrong, spontaneous, unaware of herself or fiercely selfsacrificial like Lenna. Don't try to reinvent the wheel, Tifa has been called Rosa 2.0 for decades for a reason.
>>740185090It's because they waited too long. Everyone wanted to reunite Cloud and Aerith after the OG, but they stuck to their guns since it was a good tragic story.Now people remember the compilation more than the OG, that's what remake wanted to correct. In their mellow old age they want to make Cloud happy instead of keeping him miserable, and they are facing the same backlash from when they killed Aerith, but for letting her live, from shippers.
>>740165728>FF1 has no love interestmy entire party USEd that BOTTLE and made the fairy give them her OXYALE.
>>740185929Tifa was his childhood delusion, and he was hers, that's what they are trying to show in remake too, while making it blatant Aerith is the love interest.Tifa being a witness while Cloud discovers himself in the lifestream was always to show this.
>>740185909Women should be quiet, loyal and docile.Seethe tranny.
>>740186369Exhibit A
>>740174984But what if i wanted someone else in XVI.
>>740186428Married for a decade now to my highschool sweeheart, first kid on the way.Nobody wants a "woman with a personality", because in modern times it means a factory-made coalburning slut with lots of tattoos and a shitty atitude.Seethe, trannoid freak.
Ff used to not have romance, IV doesn't count because nobody gives a fuck.Then Cloud and Aerith mindbroke square enix (in a good way) and they gave us fixed romances for VIII, IX, and X.I think they felt they perfected the romance story they wanted to tell in X, the attempt in XV, though still blatantly Cloud and Aerith inspired, it's boring.
>>740186607Ok, bro.Still confirms Tifa is liked precisely for her lack of personality, and her appearance.
>>740186618>Ff used to not have romanceHence, the series was better
>AERITH TIFA AERITH TIFA AERITH TIFA AERITH TIFA AERITH TIFA AERITH TIFA AERITH TIFA AERITH TIFA AERITH TIFA AERITH TIFA
>>740186618Cause Lunefreya is barely a character. Ironically, I think Jill and Clive are the first Cloud Tifa inspired romance in ff, and it's also boring as fuck.
>>740167202Why do you hate Maria? It's not like there were other options in II. I like that her brother used to be friends with Firion before turning evil.
For me, it's Myrna
>>740184116shirogane sama
>>740186618I thought Tidus Yuna was inspired by Zack and Aerith?
>>740164362>All other games have canon love interestsSo doe VII, anon.
>>740188112Yep
>>740188112Watch out, you'll angry shippers that have made this 30yo love triangle their entire personality.
>>740187381Because she's a shrew woman, a harpy, as shown by an NPC talking to her and her immediately telling him to fuck off and insulting him as a sleaze, when he did nothing outrageous. She goes along with the party besmirching Josef's name to save theirs. There's also her pining for her brother even after knowing he's an awful person, who will do it again. She comes off as very emotional and self-centered.(I actually love II's realistically flawed party, but as a love interest it doesn't make Maria very appealing, sling bikini or not.)If Firion wasn't tied to Maria, he could've maybe gotten any of the other better girls in the game before they were taken like Hilda or Layla.
>>740171469Even Nomura has some artistic integrity (jk)
>>740188112Why are you showing a one night stand?
>>740188053Zack wasn't really a thing yet. Also they're not alike anyway?>>740187245>I think Jill and Clive are the first Cloud Tifa inspired romance in ffThat's Snow/Serah.
>>740188831But Cloud is nothing like Snow, is he?
>>740185485>1: Cloud/Fighter, Aerith/White Mage, Tifa/Black Belt>2: Cloud/Firion, Aerith/Maria, Tifa/Josef>3: Cloud/Fighter, Aerith/White Mage, Tifa/Black Belt>4: Cloud/Cecil, Aerith/Rosa, Tifa/Yang>5: Cloud/Bartz, Aerith/Lenna, Tifa/Faris>8: Cloud/Squall, Aerith/Rinoa, Tifa/Zell>10: Cloud/Tidus, Aerith/Yuna, Tifa/Rikku>12: Cloud/Vaan, Aerith/Ashe, Tifa/PeneloDidn't play 15 or 16.
>>740189236Protecting Serah, making a promise is central to their relationship and naive and cute Serah adores him as her super cool hero, a facade he assumes for her.
>>740189387For II, shouldn't Tifa be Guy instead of Josef, since Josef was a temporary party member?Also I think they will change the focus for the next collabs. For X Tifa is definitely getting Lulu, I think, they will change it to give her the hot girl instead of the monk to appease her fans.
>>740188112Cute and canon.
