tfw no good detective game
What does the reddit man have to do with that?
>>740170642Take your meds
>>740170559I started a first playthrough of L.A. Noire today. It's kino.
disco elysium is good
>>740170559I'm replaying bamham
>>740170559>Shadow of Doubt>immersive detective sim where it's actually fun solving the mysteries and the procedural nature can lead to very interesting cases>still unfinished, buggy, and runs out of content variety >has the potential to become THE detective game with tons of replay value though>the second it blows up the devs cash in and call it finished One of the first times I bought a game after pirating it because I liked it so much and instantly got slapped in the face
>>740170559How would you even make meaningful detective mechanics?
>>740170559>It was the craziest thing I'd ever seen, she'd used a grapefruit to please her man.
>>740170559Do some detective work of your own, try to solve the mystery of “why do I even keep doing this”
morrowind lore requires a detective brain to decipher
>>740171993Same
>>740170559>she was trouble, I knew that from the moment she waltzed in>not too bright either, blondes never are>knew this dame was especially dim because she couldn't read the sign on my door>the one that said "no girls allowed"
>>740170559Don't worry, LA Noire sold gangbusters, they're sure to make a sequel soon!
>>740171993That it has SO much potential that they didn't want to capitalize on is so frustrating. Yeah, it would never be perfect and sometimes you get retarded cases but it was so close to being properly good. And it just isn't.
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>>740173921>she asked me if I had time to talk>I told her I only had time to listen
>>740172148On a budget I would say each case goes through phases, phase 1 being the job with a text adventure style Q & A section with the client. Phase 2 and 3 could be interchangeable where one is questioning witnesses and known associates, the other is a physical investigation of a location with clues and objects to inspect. Final phases are compiling evidence and presenting your findings in a similar way to phase 1.Mechanics: You can select a target for a “hunch” that highlights more things about that specific target, you can only change your hunch once per caseYou can get to the truth or satisfy your client, sometimes both isn’t possibleWhen you pick up clues a little sax note playsEpisodic, curated and written by someone capable of seeing from multiple self interested perspectives. It would need to be a real labor of love and this is like a $5 steam game
>>740170559of course theres no good detective games. wife left and took every loaf of bread in the fridge with her
>>740174234It's shit.
>>740174692I think it would be neat if you could put together a solid case in multiple different ways and the game never told you which one is right, so you'd have to either trust yourself or move on with doubts in your heart, especially with regards to the motive. Why do people do what they do? Love, hate? Greed? As you play the game you develop an understanding of the complexities of human nature, and your character hardens to reflect that, becomes more jaded as one messy case after another leaves its mark on him. Maybe introduce a mechanic where stress can be relieved through smoking, drinking, gambling, prostitutes. Things that all carry their negative effects in gameplay. Smoking and drinking would be cheap, but they'd reduce your health pool. Gambling and prostitutes would be more expensive and would require you to take up even more work to be sustainable habits, meaning you'd be racking up even more stress to keep up with your stress management.Who your protagonist is at the end of the game would be compeltely different from who he was at the start.
>>740175441I like the idea of those mechanics, a big hurdle I see there is implementing them without just ripping off Disco or making a system that says “look I’m not Disco”. My first thought for the hunch system was that it sometimes starts as a mislead and the evidence you gather and things you do can shift the hunch so that could probably work well with the stress “relief” mechanics. The tough thing would be making and marketing a game that actively lies to you constantly because the best incarnation of this concept would be pure normie poison.
>>740176085Disco Elysium isn't really about managing meters in real time, so it wouldn't really be all that similar. Drinking and smoking to relieve stress in a game like My Summer Car for example isn't in any way similar to the status effects you get in DE.I imagine a more intoxicated detective gets more hunches but they're also more likely to be misleading
>>740174835Is this game actually good? It's been on my wishlist for a while. Please note I am a big boy with a big brain and need some challenge to be enjoy a detective game
>>740174692I've never seen anything like that. There are plenty of horror detective games coming. I'd like it.>>740175441It's a must, really. This means hitman level of details and hardly able to solo.
>>740176304Yeah I was more thinking of the actual stat system, but tying it into the procedural degeneration (heh) of your detective sounds good too. Could add modifiers to each new episode based on how you ended up in the last one and work that into an overarching system which changes the cases themselves in ways.
>>740170559You just have to find it
>>740170559The Dark Rites of ArkhamKara no Shoujo
>>740171993thanks sseth, very cool
>>740177326Yeah, the state of your detective might even determine what kind of cases he gets hired for, how seedy the work he has to undertake is.
>>740170559Robocop Rogue City
Ez top 5 for me.
>>740170642Back when feels guy was created on KC, 4chan was still more popular that reddit. Mad to think about given how reddit is 1000x bigger nowadays.
>>740170559Why did Ghost Recon Breakpoint pretend to be an investigation game. I hate Ubisoft open world slop so fucking much
Do you actually want a detective game or do you just want to cosplay your ennui with jazz music playing?
>>740177590>finishing out a case>options are lie to client to make them happy or tell them the truth >you lie, +realist +self loathing>next client knows the person you lied for, hires you to gather blackmail on previous clientOr>tell client the truth, they fly into a rage and refuse to pay, +despair +cynicism>next case is their relative asking you to solve their murder due to them pursuing the truthI like split paths.
>>740170559Chicken Police - Paint it RED! Give it a shot.
>>740176318Don't bother it's a meme game, nobody played it but everybody shilling it for the lulz of playing as a duck or something.
play Return of the Obra Dinn, probably the best detective game of all time if you're interested in making deductions based on evidence
>>740170559Play Ghost Trick
>>740170559Batman Arkham
Usually games you play as an actual detective are more guided than you're looking for. I really liked the browser text only game "type help." You interact with a computer that contains transcripts of conversations that happened during a mysterious case. Your job is to use the information available to deduce who characters are and where they were at different times during the day which gets you more information, and so on.
>>740177851>Mad to think about given how reddit is 1000x bigger nowadays.Of course the normie site is bigger
>>740177775it's a pretty great game, same for the sequel. I'm waiting for a sale on the DLCs, it's really a ton of fun.And while it's not explicitly a detective game, Outer Wilds is a completely hands-off mystery game that will give you the same "A-HA" feeling. I heavily recommend it.
>>740170559frog detective
>>740178138This sounds both incredibly fun and incredibly difficult to implement as each branch makes the game more complex
>>740170559Policenauts.>>740174234Dogshit rugpull that's painful to look at and braindead to play if you have a frontal lobe and 20 minutes to figure out every crime solution algorithm.Piece of shit dev abandoned the game after ssethwave, too retarded to realize that early access idiots can get refunds on 1.0 release>eye color is an important NPC feature>not visible on the NPC model>NPCs only go to work and to murder, hobby clubs and bars weren't implemented>arrested murder suspects go back home the next day>NPCs cannot be killed>augs range from insanely overpowered to fluff text trash collection>>740172148dust for prints, interview relatives and liasons, photograph the crime scene, take bribes, falsely accuse people, beat up thugs, women; end up way deeper than you thought, break into the police archives or bribe one of the cops.Have a living world, stolen items end up in pawn shops or on the streets, serial killers strike until stopped, organized crime smuggles shit, kills competition, runs fake businesses, cheating husbands aren't cheating but preparing an anniversary surprise, suspicious wife doesn't have enough drama so she hires another detective to photograph you with her so her husband tries to beat you up.
>>740181514It would have to be Slay the Princess level of visual simplicity to get half the juice out of these proposed systems and every character would be a schizo yarn board of interactions and modifiers. I bet there’s a few masochistic developers that would enjoy just trying to make it more than playing it.
>>740170559>No fully fleshed out detective Spurdo gameWhat a shame.
>>740172148>Return of the Obra Dinn>The Case of The Golden IdolLike that
I have played golden idol, obra dinn, roottrees, type help and a bunch of more obscure one and the best experience by far remains outer wilds taking my own notes instead of using the ship log that archives and connects everything for you
>>740181572>Here's a schizo malding about it so you know it's good.
>>740170559Try the Fedora Spade series
>>740181572All cool, but this needs like a team of 6 people minimum and then the majority will watch a playthrough online. If the gameplay loop sucks, it's defacto a movie game. I would never play a horror walking sum, but watch them as background noise when doing boring/easy stuff.
>>740182796Like the best games in that regard.
