I’ve been replaying all the Halo games and I really don’t understand the ire towards Halo 4. There’s nothing about it that makes it significantly worse than the Bungie games.
>it sucks troon balls you are probably on the first stage or the part before the retarded light weapons and new enemies
Isn't this the one where the Shotgun is now called 'Bullfrog" and Cortana is suddenly fully clothed because an attractive AI companion was problematic sweetie? load of shit.
>>740176780Yes there is
>>740176904And fighting the flood and sentinels was fun? Or fighting brutes the whole game in Halo 3?>>740177019Cortana has a fat ass in this game and they keep showing her feet
>>740176780in my opinion halo 4 is the second best halo after ce
>>740177104Halo 4 is better than Destiny 1, 2 and Marathon.
>>740176780Bungie hate campaign.
Enemy ai feel like a step down from 3 and reach. The new enemies suck and theres no ammo
Halo 4 was always more hated for its cod wanna be multiplayer than its campaign. Halo 5 had the inverse problem where its multiplayer was actually pretty good but the campaign was the worst one by a wide margin
>>740176780It's Halo in name only. It's virtually unrecognizable
>>740176780>There’s nothing about it that makes it significantly worse than the Bungie games.gameplay, story, characters, music, art direction, multiplayer, content...H4 is absolute garbage
Bait thread. Also humans are Forerunners.
>take master chief out of the freezer so he can lose his AI gf, remind him all his friends are dead, and for some reason he is fighting elites again despite a 20 year war to free them and have them return to their homeworld (never explained or questioned)bro had a hard life
>>740176780The story was cringe but it was most ok. Worse than any Halo before it but not terrible. Then the series fell off a cliff with five and never recovered.
Reminder, Chief was never some autistic sociopath weirdo. He was always more of a Clint Eastwood strong and silent type, and would even occasionally makes jokes and neg Cortana. Like the time he called her driving bad or even bopped his head to shut her up.
>barely any Marines allies>the entire Promethean faction>Covenant are much less dynamic than they were in the previous games>dogshit artstyle>low quality textures
>>740176780While I do think it wasn't as bad as some claimed it to be, its certainly the weakest of the mcc games and has several major issues>several ai behaviors have been massively dumbed down for the covenant>prometheans have several dumb moves that makes them tedious to fight on higher difficulties (such as the fact knights can just teleport whenever they want and the watchers in general)>massive changes to the art style that were pointless at best and often times looked far far worse>the entire forerunner retcon
>>740177786>humans are Forerunners.no. get over it
>>740178956they made him a virgin incel retard autist who never touched a woman despite the spartan women and the women soldiers all giving him hints
>>7401767804 is just the Star Wars prequels of Halo. It’s too daring and ambitious for its own good so it turns into a flawed awkward new experience which angers autistic fans that just want the same old shit. That’s why they clapped and cheered when infinite/force awakens removed all the interesting new stuff in favor of the same status quo of Humanity being the underdog/Rebels vs empire.
Halo 4 is actually not like...the worst game in the world but there's nothing special about it either. Most of the armor abilities are genuine trash, the campaign is just like "whatever" and yeah. I mean it's genuinely a game I find hard to dislike because it's not even particularly bad. It's just bland. I'd probably give it a 6/10. Halo 5 is probably a 5/10. And Halo Infinite is probably a 6.5/10. The real take is that the 343 games aren't even horrible they are just so run of the mill you can't hate or love them. I did like Infinite multiplayer though! Sadly vehicles were fucking ruined in that game and I can't forgive them for that.NGL I am actually looking forward to the Halo CE remake but that's just because I actually love Halo and playing the OG with a fresh coat of paint again is not the worst proposition in the world.
>>740177019no that's 5 guardiansthe cortana from 4 looked like this
>>740176780>There’s nothing about it that makes it significantly worse than the Bungie games.The new enemies and new weapons add nothing to the gameplay sandbox. In bungie Halo every single weapon and enemy had something that made it unique, something that had a niche edge use case at the very least. In 4 all the new weapons are just human weapons but orange. The new enemies are just about clicking on the head, except now they teleport so you have to wait for a few seconds. It's dogshit.
Has Bungie mad a video game better than Halo 4 since leaving Microsoft?
>>740176780They're afraid of halo 4 becauseThey never read the books and don't know the loreThey cannot cope with vast movementThey cannot cope with close quarters maps
>>740183289>the booksthe books are supposed to serve as supplements for the game, not define how the games work, also its not like 4 didn't also retcon a bunch of books unless you want to say the entire conversation with the Mendicant fragment in contact harvest was just him shitposting for the lols>with vast movementsprints is pretty much the same speed as previous walking speeds, you really aren't going faster, if anything you are probably going slower since you can shoot and sprint at the same time>close quarters mapsmost of 4 has fairly open maps, along with bungie halos having plenty of close quarters maps
>>740176780The only good thing about this piece of shit game is Cortana... That's it.
Play on heroic and then come back to /v/.
>>740176780I remember not really enjoying fighting the prometheans, they felt like a massive step down in terms of AI, general sponginess and bad aesthetics. The promethean weapons equally felt really redundant and unnecessary. Halo always had this really trim and well rounded sandbox of enemies and weapons and that's something that I feel 343 didn't appreciate or care for. Their obsession with trying to leave their own mark on the franchise and make it theirs led them to making some really bad design decisions in my opinion.That and, frankly, I think the story is junk. The didact is a really fucking lame villain, the retcons 343 had to do to make his motivations work were completely stupid and really not worth it for the quality of the game we got.
They made 5 different versions of the battle rifle, what a stupid fucking game
>>740182252her fat tits are literally the only reason to play this game
>>740176780Worse enemy AIWorse enemy designs (Prometheans)Worse guns and balancingWorse visualsWorse sound effectsWorse musicWorse level design (CE is worse in some parts due to insane openness for no real reason and too much copy-pasted room layouts)More "cinematic" in gameplay which means way more sections that are a chore to replay
>>740176780your opinion is dogshit. It's a boring corridor shooter with corny anime aliens. New alien weapons don't do anything new and are completely unoriginal, to the point of them basically being reskin of human weapons with very slightly altered stats. Story sucks. Even the graphics feel like they were done by a "remaster" team. The whole game lacks any kind of originality that made the games that came before it legendary. Halo 4 was a job for 343, Halo trilogy was a bunch of dudes coming together and being interested in what they were doing and making something great. Halo 4 felt like it was just a fucking job they did and that was it.
>>740189092>Prometheans are just humans with a new skinfitting
>>740178890I never got the hate for reach, it's pretty fun.
>>740176780>shit nonexistent plot>you dont know or care waht teh fuck you are doing>you dont even know what the bad guys are>0 level design its either corridors or arenas similar to nu doom>there aren't many vehicle sections or areas where the game plays differently>the encounters are not designed in a way like in previous games where you have to adapt and do someting didferent>Gun balance is ass 90% of the weapons are dogshit yet you are forced to use them because theres little ammo>Absolute aids enemy design>their shields are too strong it takes an entire weapon worth of ammo to kill a single enemy>if they teleport out of sight their shields regenerate and you cannot longer kill them with your current weapon as you dont have enough bullets>the enemy ai is dogshit too it does either nothing teleports (when on low life) or if you get close charge at you and in legendary thats a 1 hit kill
>>740189940also>levels too small scope and generic
>>740189940I almost feel like anybody that has OP's opinion isn't even a Halo fan or even a gamer
>>740176780>that halo game that was developed during the cod trend chaseit was the start of the series identity crisis
>>740176780mutliplayer is big step down though
>>740191283Campaign is too. OP is just retarded
>add sprint but nerf movement speed so nothing is different other than not being able to shoot/move/jump/melee/throw nades/do literally anything but saunter forward>add jetpack but put invisible walls everywhere so less freedom>every single new weapon is beyond generic and completely forgettable>worse enemy ai than CE
>>740176780every. single. thing. in that game is a significant downgrade from the standard the series was known for. no matter what you want to name, it's worse. gameplay, evenmies, level design, encounter design, soundtrack, art direction, story. every single thing is subpar.
Halo 4 is better than what it's made out to be for sure, but it's not the best in the series.2 > 1 > ODST > 4 > Reach > 3 > Infinite >>>>>> 5
>>740193915>4 over Reach and 3Why?
>>740176780>no music in cutscenes>worse textures than Halo 2, a game that came out in 2004>ugly redesigns for all existing characters and species>threw away all the old lore in favor pushing a completely different story>new faction that is annoying as hell to fight against compared to the flood, that was at least fun at timesThat’s not even getting into the multiplayer changes that led to the game having less players than Reach after release, despite selling more copies.
Will Bungiecucks do anything with their lives other than seethe that their childhood is gone?
>>740189660Multiplayer has many questionable changes
>>740194057because he's smoking crack
As a standalone game, not awful but most certainly the worst game in the Master Chief Collection by far. Shooting mechanics were ok, level design was meh, writing was utter dogshit. It clearly didn't have that Bungie "it" factor like the other games had.Maybe I just had a huge issue with the prometheans as enemies and how incredibly annoying they were? Most especially on legendary.> infinite bullet sponges unless you use the forerunner sniper or whatever the fuck it's called
>>740189660I enjoyed it, as in I had fun playing it, but it turns Spartans into autistic melodramatic power rangers rather than autistic robotic child soldiers. It's autistically stupid from a lore autist standpoint, if you'd read the autistic books up until that point you'd understand that autistic humanity in this autistic universe is run by a ruthlessly efficient autistic military dictatorship with little care for autistic human life, such little care that they were willing to kidnap and surgically alter autistic children to create autistic super soldiers in order to put down a small autistic rebellion. Most of these autistic children ended up dead or maimed autists. No, you cannot paint your autistic armor bright blue in this autistic universe. It doesn't make any autistic sense.>>740196829Also this, at the time there was a perceived rivalry between autistic CoD and autistic Halo, and this game confirmed the autistic conspiracy theory because Reach leaned hard into ditching the old autistic pace of multiplayer in favor of trying to be more like CoD autism. It became about autistic short fast paced rounds rather than the more autistic technical positioning and autism strategy based flow of the other games autism.
>>740185041The Mantis was pretty great.
>>740198235saw was also pretty nice, one of the few auto weapons in the entire mcc that I actually want to use
>>740198045I don't think Reach really had much CoD influence other than maybe the dirt-brown visuals and darker tone of the campaign. The loadouts in multiplayer aren't really like CoD's at all and are more to allow the class system in Invasion which is more like Battlefront.There's the obvious stuff like armour abilities but the questionable changes mostly with Reach are stuff like how they did weapon bloom, changing ballistic gun interactions with vehicles and removing bleed-through on shields.
>>740176780The game is so fucking ugly. Coming off from Reach by comparison, all the texture work is poor quality and is either super matte or super shiney, clashing hard side by side, and the shit lighting engine they used really makes it pop how bad it looks, especially since they seemly used engine defaults instead of doing the work prebaking more of the environments lighting. Also doesn't help they changed the designs of everything UNSC related into more generic modern rounded looking scifi aesthetics instead of their signature more rigid and blocky look.All together it doesn't have a style that stands the test of time like the prior games do.
>>740176780Honestly the UNSC ruined Halo 4. All the drama involving them sucked. If the game focused on the mystery around the forerunner planet instead of all the shitty character drama and diadact, it would have been a lot better
