how the fuck was i supposed to know?
it's a secret
>>740182927You're not supposed to see the whole game on your first run on a platformer game. If you do that's bad game design.
There's usually subtle details or hints that the secret area is there if you actually paid attention instead of browsing social media on your phone
>>740182927They usually have coins leading down the hole though
>>740182927You're supposed to find it by accident, I guess.
>>740183046how are you supposed to know on a second run
it's called secret for a reason anon
>>740183127Trial and error
>>740183046>>740183127>>740183179This is NGMI bad dev design. Ignore these anons>>740183097This is good game design, usually there is a clue or hint. In DKC it's stray bananas. In NSMBW it's darker-colored floor patterns.
>>740182927rule of threes>collect three coins>secret area is next
>>740182927You weren't. You were supposed to buy the guide, that was the grift in vogue on the "Golden era" of videogames.
>>740182927Only bad design if you don't have a look down button or some indication that hole is different.
>>740183046>You're not supposed to see the whole game on your first runHate how many games are designed with this philosophy.
>>740182927>how was I supposed to know a secretYou weren't retard
>>740182927fixed
>>740182927the mobile port of Sonic 2 is allowed to do this because it replaced an already infamous pit with the secret entrance so if you decide to jump in it for fun you'll be rewarded
>>740184325needs a lambda symbol on the wall
>>740184325bro the cave in that secret area looks alluring as fucki wanna go in there and collect gemstones
>>740182927you'd think OP would've used an actual example in a fucking videogame instead of making up a scenario in his head to get angry about
>>740182927No idea. Donkey Kong Country was filled with this shit
>>740184438>jump in for funWhy would you do this if you know it was originall a death trap? Why would you soft lock yourself "for fun" for any reason?If anything it should lose points because you're taking something people know to avoid because of bad game design and now offering a reward for subjecting yourself to what you know is bad.You people will defend to most reatrded shit because "hurr hurr they got the reference!"
>>740182927Donkey Kong Country is like this It was so fucking weird, I guess it feels good when you thought you died again but stumble upon secret area or animal. But if you want to actually deliberately find them you're fucked
Fixed
>>740184325lmaoo. all that's missing is the yellow paint
>>740184871trvke
>>740184815because it's a remake/port, I forget which one, since it's a deathtrap and a way to get softlocked you'd think it would've been fixedi don't know if you know this as well but people are curious about things sometimesit's only a softlock if you jump down there as Super Sonic and it's not really a softlock since you'd just have to wait until you run out of rings to go back to the last checkpoint
>>740184608Copé
>>740182927It's okay if you never find out therefore it can be special if you do.
>>740185502okay but how do you get up there
How the fuck are you supposed to know how to get in here?
>>740182927it's based when it's a metroidvania-type map and a few minutes later you loop to the map directly below and see this
>>740183179>your second run consists of doing nothing but jumping into random pits for the off-chance there might be a secret>this is somehow good game design
>>740185861this
>>740182927You are not supposed to know you retarded autist
>>740185861this is probably the best way to do it
>>740185539motherfucking jetpack, yo.
>>740185539You start with the jetpack in ng+
>>740185539You replay the level after you unlock the ability to wall jump.
>>740185539wait 8 hours for a cloud to spawn for you to jump on
>>740185539cape
>>740182927it's not a secret if it's obvious...>"b-but i don't wanna be jumping into every pit, hitting every wall!"then don't
>>740185861based design
>>740182927stick to walls and fall slower, if the camera doesn't pan down then wall jump back up
>>740182927who even makes these kinds of threads
>>740184472Incorrect: Shakespear room actually needs you to comprehend Kant, and every guide on the internet says Shakespear because one of the devs who never worked on that room said you need shakespear in order to sound intelligent to the community
>>740185539Wait 30 seconds for a small tornado to appear.
>>740185861>>740186028>>740186101>>740186664Why do people dick suck metroidvanias so much over traditional platformers?
>>740186721it tastes good
name 3 games that are like this
>>740186721Metroidvania are the best design style that currently exists for satisfying exploration and discovery. It's not the best genre for video games in general but for specifically fun exploration nothing else even comes close.
>>740183576>literal softlock levelWhat were they thinking?
>>740187003So it's the loreshit/serialized slop of gaming? Got it.
>>740184325Actually fixed
>>740182927You're not supposed to know, that's why it's a secret
>>740186979lisa the painful
you figure it out depending on the type of player you are
>>740186979Rondo of Blood
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mx9PwRIK9Io
>>740182927>Everyone in your school plays this game>One person falls into the pit>Discovers a secret>Tells everyoneThat's how you learn.Unfortunately this didn't translate well to adulthood.
>>740186721can reuse levels since they require you to backtrack
>>740187296Nobody is going to believe your made up bullshit, jimmy. "Jump into a death pit to enter a secret area", yeah right, you think I'm that stupid?
>>740187396Yeah you say this but most kids went straight home and tried it.
>>740187296Prince of persia didn't have this issue
>>740186721because it feels fucking good to get an ability to get to an area you couldn't beforeit's like a 2D open world, finding secrets in them is also cool
>>740187460Obviously I would say that but also try it secretly at home
>>740184815Where is pic from?
>>740186721Because in metroidvanias the level design sucks, the combat is barebones and the platforming is bad, but since it looks good normies will gobble it down and claim it's superior to everything else.
>>740182927Exploration you worthless fuck
>>740182927You weren't.
You buy the Prima strategy guide or the subscription to the video game company's magazine you fucking poorfag
>>740182927this is basically the entirety of oddworld
>>740187396pussies crying about platformer secrets. A map is only 1-3 minutes long. Just try stuff out.
>>740183046>replaying a linear gameFor vvhat pvrpose?
>>740185559I replayed rayman 2 to death but I cant see shit in your pic man.Is it supposed to be the secreth 1000th lum?
abys oddysee was really bad for that, in exoddus they marked all secrets with brew bottles so it was easier
>>740188442I think it's the clark easter egg
>>740182927Trial and error using leaps of faith. Really annoying design if they at least don't let you peek down
>>740182927doesnt crash 2 do this
>>740184815I should give Slayers a rewatch
>>740182927>rain world>fuck you pits everywhere >the only hole that doesn't kill you leads to the water filtration/sewer system place full of leeches thank you demiurge, very nice
>>740188529no crash 2 is very honest
>>740188424Speedtrooning
>>740188529with the bear chase level yeah, but they give you a cue, I think the pit with the secret level is the only one with an earthquake when the bear falls into it, so you know there's a bottom
>>740184472
>>740182927Imagine all the kids who found it by accident, thinking they were about to die.
ez
>>740188424When i was a kid and partly paid with my pocketmoney for games we only had a couple of new games a year. I even replayed point and click adventures. Even back then there were games with different endings for better scores or time
truly megaman X was the best ever designed game
>>740182927The secret area has a textbox saying "secret area". Hope that helps
>>740187396Kids tried the most idiotic bullshit.>You have to fill an entire box with level 100 Pokemon (without using Rare Candies), then release them all, save, then beat the league with just a Magikarp and then Prof. Oak will give you a Mewthree! Trust me, my dad works for Nintendo
jumping to death constantly wouldn't be bad if the game would put me right back near instantly, but even in 2026 games still take several seconds, which doesn't seem much but it adds up when you're enjoying the game
>>740188821Holy fuck, this is so relatable.
>>740185539There's an enemy at the end of the level who slowly flies to the right. If you let him spawn and follow him back to the start you can jump on him to bounce up to the secret.
>>740184081Good, go cry about it. There's already enough slop that caters to your ilk.
>>740182927You were supposed to buy a Strategy Guide, retard
>>740187015they wanted a game so hard it keeps you playing it forever. I'm no idea why but i guess it was the open world "gets good after 70 hours" of it's time
>>740188424because it's fun, retard
>>740184472i read this all btw
>>740188442In the corridor at the end of level Tomb of the Ancients, if you turn up the in-game brightness, a square hole in the wall will be visible. You must then stand in a specific spot while facing the door and type "playjeff" which will then spawn a crate that you can use to access the hole
>>740183046>you are not supposed to see the whole game the first time you play it>this thoughtCLEARLY, THIS IS INSANITY
>>740182927You replay the level and try to find it, duh.
>>740188424scoring
So when In playing a megaman game, like in megaman X3 to get the gold armor, I'm supposed to keep dying trying stuff?
>>740184325>lambda symbol>yellow paint>coin trail>butterflies floating above pit>waterfall
>>740184438that's pretty based tho
>>740182927This was solved in 1987
>>740190453
>>740182927statistically, by either "dying" or having friends that "died" falling down the secret hole
>>740182927One time I played this shovelware platformer where if you left your character idle near any bottomless pit, a custom animation would play where they would look down the hole, and if there was something hidden down it they’d spot it.
>>740184472Needs more yellow paint and preorder bonuses.
>>740182927Fucking Rareware
>>740187396idk, I learned about missing no from classmates
Even better, if you've played western-developed platformers from the 90s it was more like this
mario maker pick a pipe
>>740189837i actually did and my laptop went to sleep
>>740182927You aren't. It's supposed to be a consolation prize for players that made a mistake and fell.
>>740189582I actually like this idea
>>740186979dkc1
zoombrain so dopamine busted, it's impossible for them to even consider playing the same game twice
>>740195184But everyone replays Skyrim at least once a year.
>>740182927someone's been playing Crash Bandicoot 2
>>740182927Thats good design, if you build hardline rules for yourself from small samples then youre a retard
>>740184472SHAKE ZULA
>>740184871Based
