the dumbing down of RPG elements and more focus on action was a great decision
>>740200634Mass Effect 3 was the best one.
ME2 was the best game in the series.ME1 was too linear, ME3 was better in that regard, but ME2 was best because you could do anything in any order you wanted, pretty much. It was low-stakes, "open-world", fantastic shit.
>>740200634Naturally it was since the majority of the population is filled with retarded nigger npc's like >>740202346 for example
>>740200634I dunno if I agree, but having played my fair share of Space games, ME2 was a better game to me than ME1. Just committed to being an action game and fleshed out the universe in a way I found more interesting.
>>740202841you wouldn't get it, you have no taste buds
>kill enemy>it drops [assault rifle] with 302 damage vs my 283 current onewow such deep RPG mechanics>should I choose to drop 6 points of 70 into decryption to open locked chests or should I choose not to just to be retardedwow such deep RPG mechanicsNo one cared about ME1's RPG gameplay features. Not even neo-/v/ gave a shit when ME2 was released missing the above bullshit, people were busy spamming the catalog with praise and ME2 threads to the point that /vg/ was ultimately created to avoid one game taking over half the board again with ME3.Then nu/v/ was spawned and like all things nu/v/ shit taste and contrarianism followed. Suddenly people were posting complete shit out their ass like hearing enemies yelling 'I WILL DESTROY YOU' literally every 3s in ME1 fights was actually great.
>>740200634I do think it went a bit to far in gutting the rpg elements, but like this guy said >>740203701many of those elements were meme tier at best so its not really as many make it out to be
>>740200634I don't hate it, I do like the better cutscenes and action in combat, I did take offense to the fact the game seems to want to be a reboot rather than a sequel.
>>740203881>cover shooter>better combat2 shitskins are genuinely retarded
>>740200634i agree, it would be even better if it was just one long cutscene. get rid of all that gameplay stuff, im a busy adult
>>740203957So is 1, I don't think all the changes were good(thermal clips cough cough, shields cough cough) but it is a lot more engaging and action packed than 1's. 1 was a good foundation and it was built upon in 2.
>>740200634>this pistol doesn't have a thermal clip
ME1 is to Star Trek what ME2 is to Guardians of the Galaxy
>>740201824TruthAll the gameplay changes that ME2 made, 3 did better.
>>740202346Exploration in 1 was peak, it was the janky combat which let it down. Fortunately the sequels improved that. I wonder how legendary edition handled it all and if its even worth playing now
>>740200634Sincerely yes, but ME3 then took it too far.
>>740200634fag
>>740203957>>cover shooterlollmao, even
>>740203957I preferred the turn based isometric combat of 1. Oh, wait. 1 was a cover shooter with chest high walls.
>>7402006342 > 1 > 3
>still seething about ME2 to this daywhat's with OPs and chronic need to suck dicks?
>>740202346>ME1 was too linear>ME2 was best because you could do anything in any order you wantedSeriously?
>>740200634ME1 was a shitty combination of rpg and third person cover shooter.ME2 was an overall improvement.
>>740200634>ammo becomes less sophisticated2 will always be worse.
>>740201824Everything after Tuchanka sucked ass and the eavesdrop missions were retarded
>>740201824Shut the fuck up
>>740200634The original was unironically barely an RPG to begin with. It lacked so much fucking depth that 2's move away from those systems to something more action focussed bothered me to no degree.
>>740200634ME2 is the best one because you can have sex with Jack in it.
>>740210005100% and just the vibe of the game in general being cool like that.ME3 is soft and gay in comparison, and I hated that.
>>740200634>the dumbing down of RPG elements and more focus on action was a great decisionThere was nothing to really dumb down from ME1, to be completely honest. ME1 was designed to be retard proof, so you can easily beat the game without spending even a single talent point. That said, whenever you see some moron complaining that they dumbed down the "RPG elements" of the series, then be aware that you are discussing with an actual brown retard, who fails to realize that the ability points barely did anything at all.
>>740200634The problem with ME2 wasn't the dumbing down of RPG elements, it was that the main plot is basically irrelevant to the larger story and sort of fucks over the story of ME3. The Crucible is a complete asspull awkwardly shoved into the first 20 minutes of ME3 because the writers established the Reapers on the verge of invasion in ME2 without giving any thought to how Shep was supposed to stop them. Cue Liara conveniently discovering the plans for an anti-Reaper superweapon just a day's flight away from Earth.
>>740202346This. ME2 is severly underrated.
>>740210541Isn't it overwhelmingly the most popular game of the three? People bitch about 1's combat and 3's writing, but 2 is pretty much completely beloved except for some boring puritans getting upset about Miranda/Jack/Samara's outfits
>>740200634>global ability cooldowns>aimbot ai will always shoot at you instead of anyone else>ammo LMAO>story is just requiring people >no hub even though 1 had a whole Citadel one>pointless design changes for the worse>wepon wheel and other crutches for the mentally impaired (console browns)But yes 2 jeet. Keep spamming your own thread I'm sure you will convince someone that 2 is not a heaping pile of shit.
>>740210452In fairness that only makes ME2 bad when viewed as the middle part of a trilogy, but considering 90% of the game is more interested in telling unrelated, episodic stories in the ME universe, it makes for a pretty good standalone experience.
1 feels like a sci-fi game with action flavour2 feels like an action game with sci-fi flavour
>>740210713Agreed, what makes it good is you just flying around the galaxy basically doing a season of Star Trek. The Reaper/Collector stuff is just the framing device giving you a reason to recruit all these interesting characters and handle their personal stories.
>>740210924>all these interesting characters...And Jacob.
>>740210701
>>740210656ME2 is only underrated on /v/, it's beloved everywhere else.
>>740202346Bingo. The companion missions were also extremely well designed. Mass Effect 2 is easily one of the best games ever made.
>>740200634no way, this game was a huge disappointment to me after 1. Maybe if they had kept the quality of the writing up it would have been okay to have more action but they sure didn't do that
Going from infinite ammo to "thermal clips" was still retarded, both from a gameplay and lore perspective.
>>740200634Why even keep any RPG elements at all then? Should have just had the six different classes all be set with their own moves and no need for any sort of a progression system. ME2 is the most barebones RPG I ever played.
>>740200634ME 2 is the best because it fleshed out a lot the universe set up in 1, even if it was all in small bites.So many cool locations, such a great and diverse cast of characters
>>740205170It was great the first couple of times and then it becomes an absolute slog.
>>740200634The opposite is true
>>740215347This. All the best lore about the Krogan, Quarians and Geth comes from ME2.
