The hierarchy of flops in gaming is about to change.
I heard Forspoken actually had fun gameplay.
Any Concordlikes coming out soon?
>>740209436You heard wrong, lmao
>>740209436If you like Final Fantasy XV, you'd probably like Forspoken decently enough
>>740209436Who'd you hear that from?
>>740209657Probably some woman that he was honored to talk to once.
>>740209407avowed was a perfectly good 7/10 I never got the hate
>>740209407it won't fail. no aaa can fail to such a degree.
>>740209436>>740209407Yea forspoken outside of the story and dialogue looks really good actually. if theres mods to reskin the protag id play it.
>>740209689Avowed is that NOW after patches, but it also wasn't the TES killer some built it up to be.
>I'm somewhere that's not what I would call Earth......>I'm seeing FREAKING gods and... oh yeah I'm talking to a cube! >Yeah, okay, that' is something I do now. I do magic, kill jacked-up beasts>I'll probably fly next
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>>740209786Jesus christ. Some of these are offensive to my senses. But I do like Zsa if they removed her wing thing whatever that is supposed to be, and showed some cleavage.
>>740209630Hey XV didn’t have that terrible of gameplay and the story, music, visuals and characters made up for any shortcomings.
>>740209876She does have a casual skin apparently.
Imagine unironically buying any of these singleplayer Concords lmao.
>>740209947I like her but one sexy character out of a roster of literally retarded looking people is not enough to save a game. Should just make the whole cast sexy women idk why not. Fucking Arthur lol. Lmao.
>>740209786that's not a concord like that's korea slop, we get like 5 of those every week but no one notices because they don't advertise in the west.
>>740209947SHAKIRASHAKIRA
>>740209932>story, Music, visuals and characters can make up for bad gameplayWhat the fuck is wrong with the japs
>>740209786The fuck is this? The Turd Descendant?
>>740209932>the storyXV doesn't have a story. It's literally unfinished.
>>740209407Avowed doesn't belong there
>>740209407Avowed is actually pretty good
>>740209407whats with all the fucking purple
>>740209436Show us this doll where they touched you.
>>740209407is purple the common denominator?
>>740209786This is really terrible.Is this gummy bears? fairgames?
>>740209407Why do these cover arts always feature purple, but never green?
>>740209407heh
>>740210409the future is female chud!
>>740210409>>740210508>>740210536I don't know what the purpose is but it's starting to get suspicious.
>>740210608It's fucking everywhere I don't know what these soilennials have with purple but they put it EVERYWHERE
>>740209407>The hierarchy of flops>avowed
>>740209786Can someone explain to me why I hate this? I struggle putting it into words. It's like they tried to imitate what gamers think is cool based on what a 50 year old boomer non gamer marketting exec thinks
>>740210608color theory nigga (there are also historical cases):"Purple shows up around trans activism because, in color theory, it is the “in‑between” color. It is not a single wavelength, but a constructed blend of red and blue — a non‑spectral, hybrid hue.It’s non‑binary in structure Purple exists only as a mixture of two opposites. It literally embodies “not one or the other.”It sits between pink and blue In hue‑space, purple is the midpoint between culturally gendered colors.So it naturally reads as a bridge or continuum.It signals ambiguity and fluidity Psychologically, purple is perceived as androgynous and liminal — neither warm nor cool, neither masculine nor feminine."
>>740209786I call this artstyle MTX slop. It only exists so they can sell all kinds of cosmetics. Think about it. It's medieval, modern, casual, scifi all at once. So you can sell any cosmetic.
>>740210836It's trying to fucking hard, that's the problem. If someone is parading around in the park fucking butt naked everyone thinks it's gross, but if you see that person having sex with another person in a secluded place in public suddenly it's voyeurism and not public indecency. Good art is not expected to be seen, so when you see something that was designed precisely to sell and be seen, it's shit.A great artists instead of parading around with an idea on his head they propose to an idea publicly, and in video games that is almost never the case.
>>740209407forspoken has good gameplay unlike the rest because the game systems and graphics part of it was Japanese made
>>740209407I fear Laufey wont flop
>>740209407FF16 actually flopped harder for SE than Forspoken flopped >inb4 howff16 sold less in relation to its own dev/advertising budget than forspoken did to its own dev/advertising budgetalso SE stock tanked harder when SE announced ff16 underperformed in Q1 FY2024 than when SE said forspoken had lacklustre sales in q4 FY2023
>>740209436Skyrim basically. It does a good job of scratching the Bethesda exploration itch
>>740209590>>740209657>>740210449forspoken combat was universally praised even negative reviews for the game at minimum praised the gameplay/parkour system it was the writing that was trashed
>>740209932>XV didn’t have that terrible of gameplayIf you played FF15 at release you basically bought an unfinished early access game. Playable party members did not come until late in the games lifecycle and you can tell because Noctis is the worst feeling character in the game.also the game is piss easy
>>740210308it has more of a story than ff16 or 7r or 13 or 12 and is more finished than any of those
>>740211216It would be a steam flop, but maybe do ok on console. Probably a factor in abandoning PC
>>740209407>Woke game>There's purple everywhereWhy? It's strange, but there's a seemingly undeniable connection? What is it?
>>740211179>>740211324>>740211458Holy moly it looks like barry boy is still at it
>>740211480by this logic kh2, kh3, ff16, ff7r are unfinished
>>740211216>God of War>flopNo, it won't. But it may be used as a baseline for how much they can fuck with a franchise and still expect sales.
>>740211595Nathan still on suicide watch and still posting some debunked pic of your boogeyman that multiple people were claiming to be in the thread that was posted in, like this guy in the US claiming to be barry?Still havn't necked yourself BA7RY?
>>740211812Oh my fucking god, it is youand you're still fucking obsessed with literally whos who argued with you on twitter years ago that nobody even fucking knows about anymoreIt's been more than 10+ YEARS and you're STILL defending shit like FF15 and trying to deny your brown hand pic that you postedJesus christ I've never witnessed such nuclear levels of autism to still be at this for over a DECADE
>>740209407Not too sure about betting against God of War, anon.
>>740211550>all games listed have complete stories16 having a shit story isn't the same as the story being incomplete which is factually the case with 15.
>>740211550Barry pleaseXV was half a game and absolute trashBarely above Forspoken
>>740212046Looks like you are the brown nathan schizo aka BA7RY always calling everyone barry because you're butthurt ff7 rebirth flopped and ff16 flopped and both lost to ff15
>>74021214116 has literally no ending it is unfinished 15 has an ending that fully ends the story therefore it's finished >>740212235if its half a game then ff16 is 10% of a game
>>740212242I'm actually Dreamboum and you lost big time lil BazzyFFXVI and Rebirth Chads own you
>>740212235>>740212141>ff16 has no party, cities, dungeons, minigames, rpg system, weapon system, ending, etc>ff15 has a party, multiple cities, lots of dungeons, multiple minigames, extensive system and weapon system, definitive ending, etconly ff16 is unfinished
>>740212242Barry you're always going to be that lolcow autist that stalked, doxxed, and threatened to rape a girl because she said she didn't like FF15It has been more than a decade and you haven't changed somehow. I'm surprised you haven't been reported to Australian police considered you're abnormal autistic behaviors that show you're a clear danger to the public. It's actually irresponsible for you to be near a computer at all
>>740212394>xv>definitive endinglol lmao
>>740212324cuckboum lost
>>740211458Yeah.......mental illnesses are running rampant these days.
Can't even discuss flopspoken without that retard showing up
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>>740212324dreamboum lost and kneeled to forspoken
>>740212625I mean for $20 who can complainThat's the same reason many thirdies latched onto FFXV, it was discounted heavily after it got a bunch of patches.
>>740209436You heard that because nobody played it to find out
>>740212410Nathan you're always gonna be some schizo accusing everyone of being your boogeyman even after you threatened to rape some ff site admin because you were obsessed with her because everyone kept accusing YOU of being her
Luminous production literally shut down due to their games failing and Square Enix is practically throwing away the engine yet you still have Barry seething over FF16 and Yoshida when right now FF14 is seeing a huge resurgence in players and a lot of positive reception due to the changes the next expansion that's coming next year is going to do
>>740212449how the fuck doesn't it? everything fully resolved and concluded and it came full circle with the dawn returning, caelum line ended, crystal ended and all conflict resolved ff16 has no fucking ending at all
>>740212550flopspoken mogged flop fantasy 16
>>740212892bazztek will get cease and desisted by SE soon and all will be well
>>740212736ff15 cost more right now let alone its entire lifespan than ff7 ever did from 1999 onwardmost people who played ff7 payed between $6-$12 for it which is its official priceff15s lowest official price was $17.50 only after 2019it sold most of its copies at full price or near full price
>>740212935>ff16 has no fucking ending at all16 has a better ending than 15 which is mostly just a testament to how bad 15 is considering 16 is the second worst FF game.
Good morning I hate women and men who think they're women
I am going to play Crimson Desert
>>740213058Absolutely incorrect. Most of FF15's sales were at a deep discount. Most first worlders refunded that shit once they realized SE scammed them with a half finished game.10M copies were required just to break even on that slop and Forspoken had an even bigger budget. Disastrous.Luckily FFXVI broke even day one and XIV is raking it in. Yoshi-P does what Tabata couldn't.
>>740212892Luminous Productions staff were promoted to heading the entire engine development division now and DQ12 just restarted dev on luminous ff14 is bleeding players and the financial report from literally weeks ago said ff14 sales and profit are both DOWN and most recent lucky bancho report shows ff14 is back down to fucking stormblood levelsit has less than 770k active subs right nowdawntrail is even lower rated than forspoken was you moronthe fucking se restructure happened because ff16 severely underperformed
>>74021317816 has the worst most non ending in the franchise while 15 is universally cited as having the best ff ending.
>>740213264
>>740213264>DQ12 just restarted dev on luminousNigga DQ12 is on unreal engine Why are you even lying about this? Its also funny you're going back to mention Dawntrail which everyone righfully shat on but now with all the recent patches and Evercolds major changes they've actually built up a lot of hype back again.You're actually completely out of date or misinformed with your shitposting
>>740213220The sad reality. Luminous games flopped harder than The Spirits Within and Tabata and his team were fired like dogs. Harsh but deserved.
Did Avowed even have many cutscenes? I usually hate that shit and I don't remember the game specifically having a lot.
>>740213220false and wrong cuckboummajority of ff15s sales were at launch at full price, it sold 6m in a month at full price, then an additional 1.1m at near full price by feb 2018, then was back to full price again in march 2018 with royal which sold another 1.3 at full price by nov 2018 then the remainder 1.6m sales were near full price to half priceit broke even and profited day 1 within the 5m it sold while ff16 fucking flopped with its 3m and it still hasn't sold over 3mforspoken cost less than 15 and like 1/3rd what ff16 costff16 was the most expensive FF to date and was a catastrophic failure that underperformed so bad it tanked SE as a whole forspoken literally flopped LESS than ff16 flopped xiv is literally not making any profit for SE yoy and net sales are downfucking forspoken sold more on steam than dawntrail did lmaooo
>>740213370yeah and ff16 flopped harder and caused SE to lose $140m>>740213371nope they restarted dq12 from scratch and its on luminous now literally nobody gives a fuck about neversold
People should just give up arguing budgets with barry because he still insists that FF15 didn't take 10 years to develop and that Versus XIII development "doesn't count" they just happened to rush out FF15 in 3 years with no asset reuse :)at least he was right about the rushed part because that game was not finished at fucking all on release.
>>740209407Foamstars?
>>740213379actually ff15 is the most successful game SE has ever madeand tabata left SE before forspoken proper even started development the game tabata was making was an Agni game in 2018 and matsuda changed it to forspoken in 2019 AFTER tabata leftalso matsuda was firedff16 flopped harder than anything in FF history and caused matsuda to get fired and the restructure itself
>>740213668Yeah the guy hallucinates everything so no point in replying to him, just point and laugh
>>740213624>nope they restarted dq12 from scratch and its on luminous nowin other words you have no proof and you're completely making this shit upnigga Luminous IS DEAD, the team behind it is DEADYou're literally deluding yourself and making up shit Hell the fucking player model looks like its rendered in unrealThe fuck is even the point in lying about something that's so obvious?
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>>740213668So by your logic FF14 shadowbringers took 14 years to make because its using shit from project rapture which was the versus 13 of ff14also all assets in ff15 were made from scratch july 2013 onwards, there was literally no model assets or texture reuse, some unused dummy data for 1 low res building/sign texture and a low poly nifl soldier that wasn't even the actual model used is not asset reuseguess ff7r took 20+ years to make because it can only be made because ff7 shit had to be made firstguees kh3 took 13 years to make because it reuses heartless enemies and kh2 combat data and can only even exist because kh2 exists
>>740213732you can stop responding to yourself cuckboum
Forspoken looks like a less cringey and more fun Avowed. Unironically. Still won't play either.
>>740213337>15 is universally cited as having the best ff endingFucking hell you're more delusional than the FF8 schizo.
>>740213810luminous engine staff were literally promoted to heading SEs new engine division and those images are clearly luminous engine you can tell from the grass that it's luminous because its the same grass/shrub assets internal to luminous engines level editor tool and same grass forspoken had just with saturation cranked way upeven the way the movement of dq12 hero is very luminous animation blending with a sense of grounding to to locomotion, nothing like the floaty glidey ue4 movement also luminous is pbr based they can make the shaders look however they want, for example 2013 kh3 is cartoony aesthetic too and was luminous
>>740209407Where's Crimson Desert?
>>740214096Proof?
>>740209407Hold up. Lets establish some criteria and a list of games that are in and maybe some that are clearly not. Must be big budget, high AA, AAA. Must not be live service, as those are more concordlikes. Must be financial failures or strong underpferforms. Unknown 9Star Wars OutlawsBlack prince of PersiaOuter Worlds 2.That EA game? Avernium?
>>740211458Parkour combat is satisfying. But games like prototype and infamous does it a million times better
>>740210409>>740210582>>740210508>>740210891From the GDC from some of these games, it's bisexual purple.
>>740214086it literally is though
>>740214096>protag literally looks like a fortnite render in some screenshots>ACTUALLY THEY CLEARLY REUSED GRASS ASSETS SO THAT MEANS IT MUST BE IN LUMINOUS >LUMINOUS IS NOT DEAD!!!!!!!!!!! STOP SAYING ITS DEAD!!!!!!!!!!
>>740214159What if the studio itself has high standards they need to meet? Take Starfield for example. It is definitely a massive flop if you compare it to Skyrim and FO4
>>740210712Avowed has a AAA budget, somewhere around 90-120 million, and it was available for day 1 gamepass. Financially it was a failure. At best a loss leader for gamepass, and look at what happened to Xbox afterwards. Notice your source says players? >>740209689Gay face fungus. Shitty modern writing like POE deadfire. The art director going on a bizzare online fight with Elon Musk and declaring he'd work extra hard to make sure chuds hated his game. >>740209553Fairgmes, now Break in and Horizon hunters from Sony.
>>740211458>forspoken combat was universally praised
>>740214193It literally became the most shit on game in the franchise. It surpassed 2, 8, and 13 in how much hate it gets.
>>740214131in cedec 2024 in august which was months after the SE restructure happened 2024 ,Takeshi Aramaki (luminous engine lead engineer) stated he is director of SEs in house game engine in 2025 he did an interview talking about making a documentation tool for the engine and the UI images were luminous engine the engine may get renamed but it is "an advancement of luminous engine" according to Aramaki dq12 restarted dev, telltale signs in its visuals signal stuff that align with luminous and not any of SEs ue4 games and the entire purpose of the engine development division is to have a new AAA development pipeline for SE overall with the division assisting on every creative studio going forward
>>740211216>>740211620Lets see more gameplay first. But given that they have mocap and expensive Va for a fucking cube, that their budget will be high AAA if not AAAA.If they manage to make a good game, or a game with good gameplay and shit writing, I'm willing to give them their props. But also consider the hole that Sarros had over Returnal.
>>740214123Crimson Desert essentially saved the studio that made it and is projected to earn half a billion by the end of the fiscal year w/o DLC. It's give Pearl Abyss a solid foothold in the west. DokeV will probably do even better. https://biz.chosun.com/en/en-it/2026/05/12/MADVR6SNSNAORAKV5JMY3BNTE4/
>>740213264>ff14 is bleeding players and the financial report from literally weeks ago said ff14 sales and profit are both DOWN and most recent lucky bancho report shows ff14 is back down to fucking stormblood levels>it has less than 770k active subs right now>dawntrail is even lower rated than forspoken was you moron>>the fucking se restructure happened because ff16 severely underperformedimpressive, none of this is true
It's easier to put everything under the umbrella of corposlop and call it a day.It perfectly describes these soulless projects designed and made by a committee of rootless corpo mercenaries.
>>740214197you don't know anything about graphics you see a similar sky saturation color to fortnite and thats itthe actual grass/shrub assets are the luminous internal level editor grass asset and the ambient lightning on the rocks aligns with forspokens own too, the locomotion blending on the mcs movement/jump/land/run is also akin to ff15 and forspoken locomotion that focused on grounding, and not like dq11 or kh3 or ff7r which are extremely glidey and floaty with no sense of tractionalso we literally have confirmation that SE is still using luminous engine from the lead engineer of luminous engine being the HEAD OF THE FUCKING NEWLY ESTABLISHED ENGINE DEVELOPMENT DIVISION THAT WAS FORMED AFTER THE LUMINOUS PRODUCTIONS STAFF WERE MERGED BACK AS SE STAFF the only one in denial are you fuckstains
>>740214327FF2 hate is a bit exaggerated really.
>>740214371>Crimson Desert essentially saved the studio that made itThey were already overflowing with money thanks to Black Desert and the mobile game. It's how they could invest so much time in Crimson Desert in the first place.
>>740214330your only proof is basically just guessing and assumptions DQ12 is unreal like the other titles Square Enix put out recently unless you're going to argue that "clearly" Dragon Quest 7's release was also Luminous because its lighting is different You're so painfully stupid it hurts
>>740214298it waseven igns 6/10 review praised the gameplay as being great while other things like story docked points
>>740214371It's just an openworld slop game with no storyWhy are you guys so in love with this shit?
>>740214551>overflowing with moneyThey were barely breaking even and were going into the negatives. It's a contributing factor as to why they pushed the game and left a lot of things unfinished. The investors were threatening to sue.
>>740214514>you don't know anything about graphicsThis coming from you is rich, keep seething and coping over your dead engine you low IQ paki
>>740214584>even igns 6/10 review
>>740214251Financially successful terrible disappointment is distinct enough that it SHOULD be separated from the Forspokens, and yasukes. Cyberpunk at launch for example. >>740211458Pro reviewers have no credibility.
>>740209407I have movie game fatigue
>>740214371It was shit-tier schlock pushed out to idiots that slurp up any FOMO bullshit so they could launder money. Can't believe so many idiots picked up this crap to only play for 3 hours and continue to shill for it. Pathetic.
>>740209786These don't look bad. I mean possibly because Hyenas and Concord arrived with the worst fucking shit imaginable setting the bar so high that Bungie opted for Roblox characters with neon colors set to negative to match the fucktarded character design of those games.In contrast this looks passable.The problem at large for me is that I fucking hate esports hero shooters.Mostly because it is a technicolor eye sore but mostly because they aren't as fun to play as TF2 at its peak.
>>740214123>>740214590Even if you hate the fuck out of it, it's too financially successful to be even considered. >Why are you guys so in love with this shit?Go lurk the general.
>>740210712>players
>>740210409Wokeslop is so sloppy it even has standardized colour schemes. Thats how unoriginal they are
>>740214327maybe in your head>>740214469literally all of that is true
>>740210891I hate knowing some faggot got paid 300k for this "valuable" pseudo intellectualist babble when he was speaking from his gaped asshole all the time he spent as an advisor.The only people who would make this retarded association are people crazy enough to sit on a lecture about this fallacious bullshit that the rest of humankind has never heard of.Now people associate purple with shit games.
>>740214560no because that looks nothing like luminous and has no overlap with luminous grass/shrubs or ambient lightning or any locomotion while dq12 currently does they restarted dq12 you idiot, its on luminous now
>>740209407Fuck you, Avowed was good. Forspoken and Veilguard, yeah ok they sucked.
>>740211179It's KH with niggers on a good day.
>>740209786>battlefield content creator
>>740214869literally nobody but you believe this and you're not going to convince anyone because its outright not true and you cannot even prove it because you know your "proof" is a flimsy assumption kill youself
>>740214870>Avowed was good.Look at this stupid son of a bitch defending Skyrim's gay retard cousin.It wasn't good enough to be Fable's carbon copy.I sleep better at night knowing I did not waste my life playing and defending a fucking piece of shit of the caliber of Avowed.
>>740214820>posting steam reviews I accept your concession.
>>740214967>"i did not play avowed"who are you to even speak about if its good or not then you retard
>>740214650Not my problem you're blind afthe grass/shrub asset is literally the same one from forspoken/internal to luminous engines level editor tool just saturation cranked you dumb turk
>>740214667yes they praised the gameplay but docked points for writing/story
>>740214820player bleed can be attributed to mid-expansion slump (normal) and WoW/COVID lockdown tourism going away, oddly steam numbers are bigger currently than they were during endwalker's height"sales and profit are both down" means absolutely nothing on its faceluckybancho can't be considered accurate between not counting free trial players, not counting people who aren't at the highest possible story progression at time of counting, and new accounts' lodestone profiles (lb's scraping method) being private by defaultit has over 770k as of most recent census, 771,486, stormblood era numbers posited numbers as closer to 500-600k on average, nevermind how delusional it is to believe these numbers are low for any MMOFF16 underperformed by the standards of AAA game counts and came nowhere close to underperforming in actual financials as FF16's production cost a fraction of what all their other AAA titles of the past ten years didnothing. you posted. is true.
>>740215062its called asset reuse and importing maybe learn to not be retarded, Stop obsessing over a dead engine
>>740214848Oh, it's WAY worse than that. There's multiple gay and post gay motherfuckers going at length on "colors that support BIPOC" in the GDC. We're talking millions of dollars of payroll a year go to these fucks. For now at least. A bunch have gotten fired.
>>740214123Not gay and therefore a better game
>>740215005I played avowed and it was ASS. I mean there's enough playable game there that I'm not going to begrudge you liking it, but a little bit of vertical exploration isn't enough for me to forgive the tedium of it's combat system.
>>740215146interesting that these no-name bloviators all somehow make millions while never releasing a game and never being heard from ever again after GDCit's almost like they're talking heads hired and thrown up to fill up space
>>740214935you're coping and seething screencapping for future :)dq12 is on luminous engine/ advanced version of luminous engine aka se in house game engine possibly now renamed
the secret to barrys autism is he can easily be rebuked if you actually research a bunch of the shit he spams but nobody bothers too because its way too much wasted energy to do.I remember someone once did do that though and was dismantling his lies back to back but whenever a new thread came up he would just spam the same lies again, eventually people just gave up or just forgot the rebuke to his copypastas I'm guessing his autism just doesn't allow actual truth to be accepted and he just stays in his deluded world
>>740214976that is actual fan reception and requires buying the game to review copeeven on psn which is 90% of ff16 players ff15 is still higher rated and also requires buying the game to review
>>740215265when its revealed to just be unreal engine again you're just going to say that you never made this argument in the first place and that you weren't coping over luminous being dead
>>740215290i recall him getting chased out of the final fantasy /vg/ general a few times for doing this, mostly while trying to screech about the last remnant being a devil game because it shared some staff with FF16i still can't be sure if it's actually bazztek anymore because he went dormant, but apparently he's active again on twitter at least because FF14 evercold was announced and it's promising a lot of reworks, including big stuff like reworking all jobs and getting rid of a buff-stacking meta that's lingered around in one form or another since heavensward because they feel it's dictated job design and raid design for too long
>>740215101this is copeff16 cost $300myoy net sales and profit down for mmo means ff14 is bleeding out770k subs is dire as fuck its the lowest its been in 8 fucking yearseverything i posted is true
>>740209407So concordlike is when a woke live service game flops. And forspokenlike is when a woke singleplayer game flops? I dig it. Funny how the new GoW also has the gay purple color scheme.
>>740215397>ff16 cost $300mThat's peanuts for a AAA game, Yoshida says it made its budget back in about a week after release.
>>740215105why would they rip a grass asset from luminous just to put in ue5 instead of using a different asset, when the clearer explanation is its luminous grass assets because its luminous engine which SE have confirmed they're still usingalso Aramaki literally confirmed luminous is still being used in both 2024 and 2025 you dumb fuck
>>740214330>>740215502>dude if I post the same picture twice it proves I'm rightstop coping over a dead engine
Wokeflop Enjoyers we eatin' good!
>>740215249The ones at the big AAA companies freuqently manage to survive skittering with their friends, but with fucking bomb after bomb, enough to cause EA to get bought by the sauds, Ubisoft to drop it's staff by 5 thousand fucking people, with more to come, and Bioware chopping much of the veilguard crew, as well as the upcoming mass culling headed for Bungie, there's a lot fewer positions, and they're ending up at much worse companies.Bungie actually pulled their staff and isn't letting them present this year, which was going to go in my cringe collection.
>>740209407Avowed was pretty fun
>>740215437They must still be huge arrogant bombs though. And financially successful embarrasments are another thing.. Smaller games like South of Midnight and Dustborn really should be another class.
>>740215397>ff16 cost $300mhey did you know the only source i can find for this number is bazztek on twitter, who cites keywords studios' guesstimate on final fantasy's dev costs and whose sources are all opinion piecesa much more reliable but still trolling estimate given by a hostile-takeover investor in square enix, 3D investor partners, cites 9.1 billion yen, or around 58 million dollars
>>740209407all consoleshit first and foremost, curious
>>740209407*blocks your path*Aren't you forgetting somebody?
>>740215739clearly anon this dude with more financial information on Square enix just doesn't know what he's talking aboutbarry the pajeet australian autist on welfare clearly knows best :)
>>740215316>that is actual fan receptionlol no.
>>740209436>>740211179I don't know how good it really is because I refuse to play it, but I'm still mad the agile freehand magic combat that's basically never done otherwise had to end up in this game specifically. To the point I'd prefer if it never came out, because the chance that someone will refrain from making something similar to avoid comparisons is higher than that of someone being inspired to make "Forspoken but good".
As H.P. Lovecraft wrote, the color purple can destroy yours and your family's life...
>>740216060Foamstars is live service. Closer to concordian. Tranny colored as fuck, and I would totaly a MEL-T.
>>740216952Estoceric wisdom. My eyes are illuminated now.
>>740217067IT'S A TRAP ANON! LOOK AWAY!
>>740217093THE DEEEP ONES SUMMON ME.
>>740209436Avowed is pretty good but here's the thing I'm kind of retarded so I didn't realize how many girlbosses are in the game, and it's true, every other character in an obsidian game is just some evil dyke. There are some things about it that are really great.
>>740214123Rent free in your head
>>740216952It's actually supposed to be a new alien color that no one even knows how to describe, but it's funny that they chose purple to represent that in the movie.
>>740218643I can relate to purple doing irreversible damage more thanks to modern gaming
>>740218643>no one even knows how to describei know you're being funny but actually attempt to describe purple without mentioning blue or red
>>740214330>telltale signs in its visuals signalProof?
>>740209748TES killed itself. Truly dogshit
>barry is still haunting the boardSome people really don't grow up
>>740215101Doesn't luckybancho always correct his current numbers way upwards in the next statistic he posts? We've already had similar numbers reported and they never held up afterwards. It's a lot of interpolation and guesswork
>>740209436That's great, awesomeI'm still not gonna play it
>>740214667they forgot the parts where I get to consume their ETERNAL SOOOOOOOOOUUUULLLL
>>740209407This place is gonna have a meltdown when God of Chores sells 10 bajillion copies day 1
>>740209786>ep0ch
>>740209436You're a deaf tranny, I'm so sorry!
>>740211458Hell noAll the videos i've seen have spongy as fuck enemies that just get stunlocked eternally, basically making it a total waste of time
>>740209786these are nowhere near as bad as flopcord but that artstyle just screams FLOP
>>740211179>button = awesome bullshitI sleepThis does not look good to me
>>740209786>bargain aisle overwatchmy sides
>>740214275>obsidian>aaa budgetRetarded redditspcing assmonsub.
>>740209786how are they so utterly unable to create a single cool sci-fi armor?
>>740220796>create a single cool sci-fi armor?>ummm problematiic?>you need to see a manager and maybe be reeducated!!! ("20 years of this btw")
>>740209407
A group of fallers appear on Pokeearth.They are NEEDED for some reason, the world can't just side line them.What goal are they needed for?>team rocket is over - mewtwo already became a monk>team aqua/magma?>galactic?>plasma>flare?
>>740220604>action game plays like an action gameShocking. Without context you can apply "button = awesome" to basically anything that looks cool, but it won't mean anything. It's supposed to imply casualization and style over substance, which is not something you'd necessarily be able to see in just one webm.
>>740221143>jump + jump + jump + jump + spell + spell with a big gay finisherIt doesn't look cool, it's lame
>>740211216It won’t
>>740209436It does. so did Veilguard when you played Champion
>>740214298even Synthetic Man, who refuses to ever say anything positive about anything, said the combat was serviceable
>>740212625He's right though
>Barry meltdown in the Forspoken threadLmao
>>740221296So what exactly is so inherently lame about air jumps and spells? And if supposedly looks lame then can it really be "button = awesome"?
>>740209786What game is this
>>740209407>It has the flop-purple colorIt's over...
>>740209786Nice animations but these character designs ain't it
>>740212242>Shit vs Trash
>>740211179The combat in this game was genuinely better than FFXVI. Better exploration, better sense of discovery, better rewards. Better RPG elements. Better particle effects.....The only thing that's better in FFXVI is the fact that it has a more traditional, masculine fantasy story and not the extremely cringe black girl YA novel story
>>740221814I was being ironic when I said "awesome", Mr. Autist
>>740212046>FF15>It's been more than 10+ YEARS
>>740211373It's the opposite of Skyrim motherfucker>>740209436Devil May Cry fast combat with spells and distance combat like Vs arsenal but hyper expanded with giant world parkour exploration.It's a great game.
>>740216027what are you on about, all of those titles, minus fem god of war, are multiplatform and by default PC first and foremost titles
>>740214164I really love Infamous,I played all the titles even the vampires one but comparing the combat complexity of infamous to forspoken is like comparing Darksiders(Infamous) to Devil May Cry V(Forspoken)
I don't find this particularly interesting. /v/ is now full of people who have played all these games "ironically" and spend all day discussing them "ironically".
>>740222071I saw a video of Forspoken and it looked really fun and unique so I bought it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YI26O_7ugXc
>>740221946And yet you didn't answer the first question. I don't see what's supposed to be wrong with a game about magic having spells. I don't even know if the combat is good - maybe it isn't, or maybe it is and the webm just doesn't do a good job at showing it, but I wouldn't say it looks bad.
>>740221296>jump + jump + jump + jump + spell + spell with a big gay finisherThere is also a spell before the jumps retard, the big blob of waterThe game is awesome and you people are mad because it's woke, I hate woke too but if the game is awesome I rather have fun
>>740222248It's trying to hard to look cinematic and "cool", making it look lame
>>740209407Where do these fit in?
>>740222185I'm not interested in forspoken, so I'm not gunna click that link or even mouse over it to see the thumbnail. You're gunna be here all day talking about it though.
>>740222386you can cancel the finisher idiot it has 3 parts because he is max levelyou can also not do any jump just run straight for the enemyyou just want reasons to hate everything about the game,you don't want to like it.I'm sure you are used to games with more robotic or simpler gameplay so Forspoken is kinda alien to you,too much freedom.
>>740222386You could say that for the finisher(?) maybe, but plenty of games have that And chuuni arm motions while shit is exploding are generally to be expected when it comes to magic. Even DD does it.
>>740222442those are streaming flops, not theatre releases
