how do you fumble the bag so hard
Braindead design to constant nerf fun things in a non competitive PvE game
>>740210716>were the developers raped at some pointYes, when a Playstation account was required to play the game even on PC
horde shooters aren't meant to be liver service games, their entire payment model is designed around baiting people into buying warbonds by fucking with the balance to make the game feel like shit yes, that's right the root of the entire problem with the game is that it's a faggot live service model
The Perfidious Swede is born pre-raped.
>>740211142>>740211036>>740211004were they always THIS retarded? i never played the first one
>>740210716S O N YO N Y SN Y S OY S O NS O N Y
>>740210716I don't even touch the game anymore but I wish death upon these swiggers.I pray that some disgruntled autist will kyoani their main office and that their families get into car crashes.
>>740211142Honestly hate the trajectory this game went in. Diving the creek was some of the most memorable shit i ever had in gaming, sucks balls knowing that it was just lightning in a bottle and I’ll not have that feeling again from that game or probably any other of rushing into certain death and carring victory on my shoulders after each bloody battle.
leveling up weapons from level 20 is a fucking nightmare, especially since most weapons are uselessi might use cheat engine to skip this shit
>>740211619HD1 was annoying with DLC since there were no grindable super credits but it was a much more complete game and the galactic war was truly fair and not rigged.
they got their money and can't be arsed to fix and update shit after that
>>740211715I still remember the time when main weapons were overall good and shit like the airburst was usable and the entire game didn't completely resolve around spamming heavy armour at you. Back after release they spawned so much more chaff and lightly armoured enemies, the hordes and patrols were so much fucking larger you actually could hold your ground and mow down bugs and bots rushing at you. Nowadays it's a fucking tedious slog of spamming chat until your team has enough HEAT to take out the new fotm armoured enemy. All your peashooter mainweapons feel like trash and there's barely any enemies spawning. Everything feels empty and barren you can literally count the individual "respawn waves" because the game reaches max entity limit so fast.
>Players on the civilian extraction mission can use the jetpack to get on the roof and ride the escape shuttle into space and die>Devs fix this by... adding a killbox onto the roof that kills you when you touch the roof>Game lets you land wherever you want when coming down in a drop pod>Devs fix this by adding invisible walls to every bit of highground so players are constantly getting stuck on invisible walls when landingMost developers would make the opposite changes
>>740212104>Devs allow enemies to scale walls and cliffs and clip through dead bodies and invisible walls that stop you>Devs allow enemies to shoot through dead bodies that block your shots>Devs make it so you can't call stratagems down anymore on certain rocks and cliffs because god forbid you have a well placed turred on highground
>>740211004Oh look, one of the "just buff everything" retards
>>740212104>Players are able to instantly recover after a ragdoll animation, allowing them immediately stim or get up and run>Devs fix this by adding a recovery delay after every ragdoll>Players are able to use the Senator as an effective weapon>Devs add an armor set to encourage you to use it and then fix it by adding pistol sway and increased drag, >Devs fix it again by increasing drag even more and claiming they removed the pistol sway, while not doing removing it at all
>>740212197Can I just get a bugfix for the new mech with the flamethrower that has been bugged for 42 days now since it was released in the warbond?Can chargers make noise now instead of being completely dead silent?Can we finally enemies shooting through dead bodies?Can we finally fix enemies spotting and aiming at you through walls?Can we finally fix stratagem bounces?Can we finally fix hive word oil extraction missions where the objective car dies before you can reach it due to the enemies increased durable damage?Can we finally fix the tank from getting to a full stop over ramming a pebble on the ground?
>>740210716By listening to the drooling retards at Sony rather than just making helldiver 1 but 3d
>>740211004Bad balance is bad even in pve gamesThe game is less interesting if some weapon option completely eclipses its competitors
>>740212319>add a speedloader and increase the pen of the senator, leading to its popularity in the first place>nerf it because it gets popularthese devs are legitimately mentally challenged
>>740212481It becomes easier when you understand the reason for it.>Buff thing>But also nerf thing in some way to offset the buff>This is "balance" in the Swigger's mind
>>740212330Holy SHIT chargers are STILL silent? That has been in the game since launch! LOL
>>740212568and they ALWAYS choose to nerf something in a way that affects how fun it feels to use; they know exactly how much people hate poor weapon handling (drag and sway, for example) from bitching about weapons in the past, and chose to do exactly what would feel the worst.
>>740211142I've never gotten into any gaas game but jesus christ what the hell is wrong with modern gamers? This shit has been going on to some degree even back during the PS3/360 generation and I never understood why people didn't feel like they were being nickle and dimed way too much. The shit is a total ripoff. Games should not be like that. I unironically think that paid monthy or yearly subscription services is far more sensible and less cancerous than this bullcrap. Just bring gaming back to the days of when MMORPG were all the rage.
Never forget that they nerfed the Grenade Battlement because the Grenade Launcher was too strong.
>>740212604They also have tried repeatedly to "fix" enemies clipping through walls and terrain and it still happens. Every time there's a host desync issue where the other players on the squad are getting an easier experience, they "fix" it in favor of the host's bullshit so it's harder for everybody, etc. It's like someone in charge just hates everybody.
>>740210716The enemies deserve to have fun too!
troon coded game from the beginning
>>740211142>their entire payment model is designed around baiting people into buying warbonds>buyingLike with real money? Why? Just find a game hosted by chinese player lmaoMade 11k SC this way yesterday.
Ever since the players clutched the Super Earth invasion the developers haven't really known what to do.I'm probably wrong, but it honestly seems like they were confident on Super Earth being destroyed; they severely underestimated the power of thousands chuds focusing their racism on a fictional enemy.It's probably why anyone still playing this humiliation ritual has had to defend the same planets so many times by now.
>>740214204No, there was no way. They expected every city to fall but one, but there was 0 chance we'd lose that. They just had no plan after the fact and ran out of content so had to whip up more, but they're Swedish and thus allergic to their jobs.
Honestly just sounds like someone making calls at the dev team are one of those>REEEEE noooo you're not supposed to play it like that!!!!
>>740214871>>REEEEE noooo you're not supposed to play it like that!!!!in that casehow the FUCK does that quadruple faggot think i should play the game
>>740211779That's what I did. It's too much grind for nowhere near enough benefit.
>>740214973they have no real idea because they also don't play the game above 4 or 5, they're spreadsheet balancers so if X thing has too high a use rate then it gets nerfed
>Final objective of the mission is to turn valves>Other player is bugged and cant move while interacting with the objective>Forced to kill them then try to interact with the objective myself>Get stuck myself then the game crashesThat's enough helldivers for a while
they are swedish, instead of just accepting the community view that the helldivers are elite special ops and a power fantasy, they want to force the game to be a miserable anti-war piece where you are just a grunt and meat fodder for the war machine (despite you having your own ship and access to experimental weapons)
>>740214204Devs change MO's number on the fly to get "intended" result so players efforts means nothing in reality.
>>740210716a mixture of swedish ego, outdated engine, Sony marketing when the studio is not ready to handle the weight of eyes, actual incompetence, a golden ticket that should already have 3 to 4 imitators to drive innovation, aggressive content additions constantly eating up extremely limited design space and last but not least clashing game design ideologies by having a tactical millsim horde shooter with lots of ridiculous goat simulator level shenanigans brought on by ragdolling and wildly dangerous weaponry that can easily backfire.helldivers 2 1.0 was the best patch because it had the least amount of issues.
>>740210716Dpn't be insensitive, there's unfortunately no cure for being swedish yet they're doing alright for such a severe disability.
>>740211142warbonds are a big problem, but having no meaningful progression, being repetitive and shitty balance decisions make it so much worse
>>740211876i actually really liked the new illuminate faction and it's a lot like you describea shit ton of chaff and an occasional mech that still has giant dangling balls that are lightly armouredchaff also flies and it can get really hectic if your team has trouble taking all of them out
>>740210716I haven't touched or really heard anything about the game since the Earth invasion saga. Did those "leaked" super duper genuine Illuminate enemies get added yet? What happened to the Cyberstan thing, I saw that get hyped up but I just couldn't be bothered to boot the game up.
>>740218694>What happened to the Cyberstan thingFOTM event that run for a while, got a controversy about Arrowhead fixing outcomes then was deleted from the game. So the exact same shit as SE defense, just different enemySE city biomes were eventually added into the rest of the game, Cyberstan "megafactory" biome still isn't, so as of now it's an even bigger waste of devtime, the most limited resource in sweden
>>740212104It’s because their engine is a complete mess, melee enemies aren’t designed to account for vertical terrain.Instead of fixing that (which would admittedly be difficult) they just keep painting over the cracks.That’s how the game ended up like it is.
>>740211619Anon they’re Swedes. They would gladly steal defeat from the jaws of victory than admit their vision is fucking stupid.
>>740214204Well you're wrong. The leaks showed we were always going to win the SE war.
>>740214204I remember one of the SE defense MO failing and the devs panicking going>w-well you might've failed but you inflicted enough losses that the next MO will be easierThis is the only time in the game they acknowledged partial victories. Hell, later they changed it so that lost planet go all the way to 0% liberation instead of 50% like they used to making defense campaigns even more of a waste of time for everyone (due to the absolutely fucking retarded system of contribution being spread out over the galaxy depending on player count instead of just being fixed to amount of missions done) than they used to. Insane that you have people complaining about bugdivers sabotaging MOs but you never hear anyone mention how detrimental half the playerbase doing defense missions is to the "war effort"Not like it matters at all, swedes will just force the outcome they want, anyone who takes the war seriously is a genuine retard. I'm just baffled by the hypocrisy. Or maybe it's stupidity and they don't actually know how the war works either despite complaining about half the playerbase for being on the wrong front
AH made their money and are trying to kill the game at this point. They won't even let you make loadouts to quickly swap equipment.
>>740212470Like real life, some brands and weapons are better than others.
Did they ever fix the thing where the install size on PC was like installing 5 of the same game to make it slightly faster for HDD users?
>>740211619HD1 was hugely unbalanced. HD2 is not unbalanced at all. The shit people cry about is a handful of weapons or items that are mediocre, but not bad.
>>740219417Yes, first as beta and I think it's rolled into the main brach now. Turns out it had absolutely no impact for the few hundred people who qualify as having PC good enough to run helldivers 2 but shit enough to be forced to use HDDs either, so it was just fucking over everyoneI'm convinced it was deliberate filesize bloat like every AAA game does and they only changed it after the game fell off and AH realized they can't actually compete in the big boys league
>>740219489>HD2 is not unbalanced at allWell said my fellow arrowhead employee. The playerbase will continue to suffer. As we say in sweden, inshallah
>>740210716Fumbled the bag so hard it got the chiggers to make a HD2 clone themselvesSwiggers can't do anything right
