https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcphpBvdt28I have a feeling the gameplay is going to be more like Project Wingman. It definitely feels like ACES took some inspiration from PW if the trailer's anything to go by.
to someone whose only plane vidya experience is ace combat 4 and 5, what does it mean to be 'inspired by project wingman'?
What does that mean? Wingman was just an Ace Combat game with overpowered sub weapons.
>>740211386Hopefully that means the missiles won't be absolutely braindead. I love AC7 but seeing missiles whiff stationary helos occasionally after playing PW really spiked my blood pressure.
>>740211561Don't forget how the guns in PW were actually useful, too.
>>740211493PW was more aggressive and you dodge a lot missile whereas in ac games you barely ever going to use flares
>linking a video that doesn't go live for 7 hoursDumb OP.
>>740211493PW had infinite flares and obnoxious missile spam so I hope it did not copy anything else off PW other than getting 2 special weapons
>>740211698AC7 was just constant handbrake turns. The planes in PW flew normally and this meant you needed the bare minimum of dogfighting skills to attack and defend.
>>740211493PW had a really strong cannon with generous hitboxes and more flexibility with special weaponsIn terms of level design, very high target density, more dangerous SAMs, on higher difficulties enemy aircraft were very good at evading missiles and very aggressive.
>>740211757Don't act like missiles on expert in AC7 are any better. Yes, there's less missile spam but the missiles won't stop chasing you for a while.
QUICK POST YOUR PLANEFU
>>7402117673 special weapons, actually. You didn't have to screw yourself if you brought anti ship missiles because you could also bring other stuff. The best plane in AC7 is the one that just lets you fire lots of multirole missiles, because then you have no weakness in your loadout.
Did you play the DLC?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Spr4t9esNo
>>740211987>PS5 exclusiveSadly not.
>>740211826>In terms of level design, very high target density, more dangerous SAMs, on higher difficulties enemy aircraft were very good at evading missiles and very aggressive.this is all just how ace combat 3 worked before the ps2 games casualized this series by making it about anime mechs that happen to look like jets btw
NGAD spotted
>>740212035It's been on PC for over a year now
>>740211853
>>740212035It's not. Check Steam
>>740212059Why another program to replace the F-22? Isn't the F-35 enough?
>premiers in 7 hoursYou cunt
>>740211853turboprops when?
>>740212364Turboprops are useless in Ace Combat and in real life their only use is to bomb terrorists and cartel members.
>>740212138JSF is a strike craft that has really really good self-defense AA capabilities. NGAD and GCAP are dedicated interceptors that solely exist to fuck other aircraft.
>>740212138>casualisedyou say that like the games havent always been piss easy outside of a few difficulty spikes. 7 is probably the hardest game in the series even with its generous check pointing
>>740212138F22 is like late 90s tech, F35 is not made for long range operation or the same level of performanceGCAP/NGAD want to do the same concept but with 2020+ software and tech improvements
>>740211853If you didn't use a multirole, you didn't beat the game
>>740211757>copy anything else off PW other than getting 2 special weaponsAnd even that wouldn't be copying. Bamco already did it in Joint Assault.
>>740211386So I can now shoot civilian airliners, do a Pearl Harbor and commit warcrimes by killing retreating enemy combatants in Ace Combat?
>>740212842You could already commit war crimes in AC0. You bombed civilians in Hoffung and you could shoot down any damaged aircraft.
>>740211987It wasn't that good but the tunnel run was fun and the final boss was at least an interesting exercise in making a plane game boss fight.
>>740212842>and commit warcrimes by killing retreating enemy combatants in Ace Combat?Not how it works, retreating enemies are 100% valid targets. Retreating and surrendering are mutually exclusive actions.
>>740212138F-22 is 30 years old platform and F-35 is multi purpose fighter instead of a dedicated air defense fighter.
I miss Crimson bros.I love that little piece of shit nigga like you wouldn't believe it.If only I could piss him off for all of eternity.
I'm getting pretty tired of these crappy English only trailers, the VA work sounds fucking atrocious when I could be listening to TsudaKen instead.
The threads will go back to normal after the game comes out and it gets something new to doompost about, right?
The only super weapon we've seen is land battleship.... That arsenal bird in the OP is a hauler so it doesn't count.
>>740214448There was also a satellite in the trailer. It's probably something like the laser satellites from Ace Combat 2 or the SOLG from Ace Combat 4.
>>740212054players today don't know the fear of SAM sites on ace difficulty that are just straight one-hit kills unless you're in the A-10 with the amazing ability to survive a whole TWO missiles (barely), or the fucking bitch-ass terminators pulling cobra maneuvers on your ass out of nowhere in AC2
>>740211853As a newbie to the series, I'm still a basic bitch.
>>740214816Yeah it's a kinetic orbital strike. And I'm guessing that the reason they blew up the space elevator. So no one can go up there.
>>740214816It's my wife.https://youtu.be/vItAc5sNEHQ?si=GLpJtld8sc0gP-zT&t=116
>version with ost vynils and patch only available for pcWhat did they mean by this?
>>740214931>newfag in the year 2026 loves the tomcatLiterally performative.AC8 will undoubtedly bring in a lot of tourists huh?
>>740215112Bamco, like Capcom, sees the PC as the superior platform.
>>740211853I love the cat
>>740214969So what, did everyone forget about Comona base?
>>740211386if they take anything from PW I hope they add a girl wso
>>740211386>It definitely feels like ACES took some inspiration from PW if the trailer's anything to go by.It certainly didn't look like it. PW has huge battlescapes and complex multi-stage missions like AC6 but with modern graphics. Not getting that from AC8.
>>740211386>According to details from Bandai Namco, Ace Combat Zero will be bundled exclusively as a bonus and will not be sold separately on digital storefronts due to historical licensing restrictions.okay so licensing hell only applies to if you sell the product
>>740215276We already knew that from when they did the 5/6 bundles with AC7
>>740215306so why not just make the bundle permanent as extra value or at least lock it behind deluxe edition
>>740215340¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I'm not an IP lawyer
>>740211757yeah, I don't know about that. I'm definitely open to something different but being even more spammy than AC feels like it's going in the opposite direction.
the base level of skill in ace combat has always been too easy. it's never felt like something to seek your teeth into and git gud at, basic flight being guaranteed and the challenge from memorizing whatever bullshit is thrown at you. getting a hit in a dogfight should feel more special.
>>740215758It's a game where you typically have a kill count in the dozens for every mission, dude. How is that meant to feel "special"? Do you need a cinematic pause?
>>740214349there will be two threads, a bait thread drawing heat alongside a peaceful actual discussion thread. seen this happen numerous times for japanese games that have no real controversy.
>>740215276I wonder what those licensing agreements are that's preventing them from selling AC0 separately. Could it be some sort of autistic airframe manufacturer thing?
>>740215758It was definitely better before they introduced high G turns. The games have always been easy but the player's maneuverability was in the same ballpark as the enemies so dogfighting felt somewhat like dogfighting and they didn't have to rely on missile spam to reintroduce difficulty.
>>740215758The mountain pass mission in AC7 is harder than any dogfight.
>>740216127Yeah high G turn is such a gay I win button. they should balance it like in war thunder where your pilot goes unconscious and you insta crash if you go too high G.
>>740211493Being inspired by a shitty indie game that was trying to ride on Ace Combat 7's coattails.
I was going to ask if Assault Horizon was even worth a pity check, but licensing got em anyway.
>>740215998it's the same reason why ac5/6 were only available with 7 preorders. aircraft manufacturers (most every defense/arms manufacturer really) are tremendously jewish about their ip. bamco, also being jews, clearly have no desire to renegotiate the deals for the older games.
>>740215998it's IP rights, happens everywhere. It's the same reason you can't watch some old TV shows with their original licensed soundtracks, can't buy some old games with licensed cars or some series can't ever get a sequel because either the company that owned the rights died or got split into 10 other companies that will never work together.People that own the rights charge out of the ass for perpetual licenses that most creative projects aren't willing to pay so everything has an expiration date, and any re-releases would require a whole new deal. Nothing is really preventing them from doing, it's most likely just too expensive for something small like a port.
>>740211853That's it. You posted her.
>>740212138Japan asked america if they could buy the f22 and they said no, the f35 is not an air superiority fighter. The UK and Japan had no choice but to make their own
>>740215998it's retarded that you even need to license aircraft and cars if you want to use their real names in video games. IP law is devil work
>>740216393Dogfight mode completely kills that game. Otherwise its got some decent setpieces and the plot, while dime-a-dozen, isn't totally horrible. But DFM is the most retarded shit in the franchise period.
>>740216395If what you're saying is true then wouldn't Bamco be violating those license agreements by releasing AC0 with AC8 if it only applies to that game or are they trying to bypass it by including AC0 since then that would technically still be one game and they won't have to pay for more licenses?
>>740216543Besides plot mandated bullshit was it even able to be ignored?
>>740216574NTA but it's been years since I played AH so what I might say might not be true. You can dogfight normal enemies without going into DFM to some degree. They are still agile as fuck, especially on the higher difficulties, but if you keep going you can take them down. Squadron leaders (TGT_LEADs) are next to impossible to kill without DFM.
>>740216428It's completely retarded that ace combat uses licensed aircraft in the first place. The game isn't set on earth, its got retarded stories about scifi super weapons and anime melodrama, increasingly the people who are into the series aren't plane fuckers so they wouldn't be able to tell either way. plane fuckers are also weird and rare in the first place because its impossible for any of them to have first hand experience with these jets, unlike cars where every normie has a certain car they are familiar with or attached to.They really should just get rid of the licenses and invent their own manufacturers, it's cooler for a scifi adjacent series to do this. They are wasting so much potential revenue and IP mindshare over time by locking their history behind this pointless barrier.
>>740216547they are definitely violating the licensing agreement but blamco is just betting on the manufacturers not being bothered to litigate since it is only available for a limited time as a preorder bonus. and history has proven them right because they have already done it
>>740216817Hey that's great Mr. Marketing Degree, please face the wall.
>>740216817>scifi adjacent seriesonly 3 is scifi adjacent with the COFFIN interfaces and pulse lasers. damn near everything else in the games that seems weird, including the super weapons, is namco looking at weird ass postwar and cold war prototypes and stuff and going "hell yeah that's cool"
>>740216701there's a bunch of tgt leads that are only killable with dfm because it leads into a scripted dialogue sequence or a cutscene
>>740216817>invent their own manufacturersThey did, (SBMF/Grunder, the EASA, General Resource, Neucom, Ouroboros) but stuff needs to happen before we can get back to the 2040s where everything is original.
>>740217068>everything is original.Except for General Lack of Resource and their eighty (80) year old F-15 air frames LOLSent from my nu-COMM Tap'n'Roll 6
>>740216895I dont care about the money or IP, I care about the fact that the series cannot gather new fans without them being autistic enough to emulate and that they have no revenue stream to keep project aces alive. The constant stream of new fans and old game sales basically guarantee DMC will always have new entries. I think half or more of capcoms sales are now from old titles that just hang around on digital platforms, this is an alternative to this constant season pass, gaas dogshit which AC is now forced to chase.
>>740217116F-15 with a COFFIN counts as original, in that it would be exempt from licensing bullshit.
>>740211853Zööööööm pæw pæw missilæ lökk
i kind of want ac3 to be reached again so that /v/ can have fun with neucom and gr shit-flinging to fill the blood eagle/sand raker shaped hole in my heart
>>740216701There are enemies you have to DFM no matter what. Markov has to take you through certain areas of Miami and DC to progress the stages. It's multiplayer where DFM is 100% optional.
>>740217068I think they should have a small team that remakes the old games and replaces all licensed aircraft with their own models and new aircraft manufacturers. These can then be reused in any future prequels. I hate remakes but this is atleast preferable to shifting the series into another GAAS abomination which is inevitable on their current course.
>>740215957I'll be in both
>>740216547it's a technicality because they're not selling it and it's not attached to a paid service as it's a pre-order bonus.
>>740217276Mah nigga, I love the Draken, especially with a bright color scheme
>>740217338They're obviously not going to do that. Mobius 1's F-22 is iconic. The Razgriz needs those black F-14Ds. Cipher and Pixy must have their F-15s.
>>7402172989 is 3^2
>>740217630>The Razgriz needs those black F-14Ds.chopper's plane will be black no matter what the model is, don't worry
>>740211853>coop means I can just run CAS while other players deal with the air finally
>>740217932>CAS but with AC's legendarily shitty autocannonsit feels like you're shooting marshmallows in every single game
>>740218030>it feels like you're shooting marshmallows in every single gameWell at least that goes with my chocolate missiles that tickle the ground
>>740217932If it's like ACI then fuckers in multiroles are going to steal all the ground targets first anyway.>>740218030And then there's Talisman with his gun that can instant kill a battleship.
>>740216328>Trying to ride AC7's coattailsIt was made because it was taking so fucking long for AC7 to come out that some Australian guy went "Fuck this I'll do it myself". Literally just the one guy doing all the gameplay and he still managed to get it out the same year as AC7 with its full-time studio.
>>740217864So disrespectful!
>>740215112I don't want the stupid vinyl I just want the artbook.
>>740218059Maybe some day they'll bring back the YA-10B and give it a proper un-nerfed FAEB again. I mean, I know they won't since they didn't even include the fuel air bomb in 7 at all outside of two paid DLC planes, but I can dream.
>>740218120Whoever goes after ground targets do it wrong. They don't pay that well. Highest ground red is like 1800 and highest air red is 3600
>>740211386Project shitman is just temu AC, 7 mogged it.
>>740218395ACI had enough ground enemies that you could a lot of points from them even if there were no super valuable ones. And you needed someone to do it anyway, it's not like they were going to kill themselves.Ideal four player team composition for standard maps was 2 fighters who went for air and 2 multiroles/attackers who went for ground. I played that game way too fucking much so I'm an expert on this subject.
>>740218212I feel like given the customization direction with coop, they might have more depth when it comes to going full ground, multi-role and anti-air. But maybe I am just coping for roles that won't exist.
>>740215192I can hear the guitar riff in that image
>>740216817Back in the day, those licenses were cheap enough that it made more sense to just use them. It's like how Netflix used to have everything, because they bought all the rights for pennies when "digital distribution" was a joke. How were they meant to know that 30 years later companies would expect you to pay an absurd amount to stick "F-16" on a menu screen?
>>740211386>I have a feeling the gameplay is going to be more like Project Wingman. It definitely feels like ACES took some inspiration from PW if the trailer's anything to go by.This statement makes absolutely zero sense given that PW just took the most basic AC missions and gameplay but made it worse, due to terrible AI and lack of actual funds and expertise to make combat more than just enemies beeswarming the player.
>>740216817>It's completely retarded that ace combat uses licensed aircraft in the first placeLiterally what made the franchise interesting in the first place and why it still has a fanbase among aviation fans. And look at the alternative. Unless you get something goated like the delphinus that had story relevance you just get NOT REAL mock fighters that look like actually real planes but are TOTALLY not real planes. Which is super gay.
>>740216460this is bullshit, japan signed up for gcap in 2022. gcap has been a work in progress since the mid 2010's
>>740211493Multiple SPW (Including being able to double up on one type for more ammo) is the big one.land battleships is the other.
>>740211987I boughted it but haven't played since I've been waiting for the conquest rework. Any day now...
apparently they're fixing the Morgan
>>740222171
>>740211853Any love for the super bug here?
>>740220984They're borrowing at least 3 things from PW: common airship enemies or at least airships that carry logistics that you can take out, land battleships as bosses, and extra SP weapons slots (albeit just 1 extra for now)
>>740222234Love her, but she's not my fave. Very appealing shape, though.
>>740222171>>740222201Morgan is my planefu
>>740222241Ace Combat actually had airships as standard enemies first with Kottos and Gyges. Land battleships are a generic enough concept that I'm not sure we can say they're from PW either, especially PW's are pretty forgettable.More than one special is almost certainly because PW did it though, yeah.
>>740216127I beat AC6 like 3-4 times without knowing it had high-g turns kek.
>>740221050it's weird 'cause AC's old sister series ridge racer has been fictional cars from the start, and it's pretty much the only series like that where all the original cars are actually (mostly) original with their own company backstories and design language evolving over time and so on, the opposite of GTA-type games where you do get the "real cars but we changed the badges so they're 'not actually a ford' cars"
I don't even see why they need to get licenses to have real-life planes modeled and named in the game. Copyright law doesn't really apply here and the case for trademark infringement seems really weak. I always felt like game developers paid for those simply because aircraft manufactures are too big to risk a direct confrontation against rather than out of any legal rational. Activision did win that case against Humvee a while ago and it really feels like the same situation here.
>>740222171>Strangereal cobbled-together prototype for schizos>real-world aircraft construction
SOLG 2
>>740223702almost like an O'Neil cylinder.
>>740222990Manufacturer consent means you can get super autistic about the details, because if they're feeling nice they'll give you tours and shit.
>>740211853Love the look of this thing, hopefully AC8 includes a handle of the COFFIN conversions, especially the F-14 as there was no coffin-F-14 in AC3
>>740212842You can do that in Wingman? Maybe I should give it a try.
>>740223702This just launches tungstein rods. The SOLG launches nukes
>>740225218The SOLG did fire a few non-nuclear payloads during ACES, 5's penultimate level.
>>740223702Anon that's a space colony
>>740211853Any plane with just one engine. They get me rock hard.
>>740216817Using current jets make it feel grounded while the Si-fi stuff makes it really feel you are up against superior odds when they appear. Using a fictional word just gives them a means to do anything with the story without making certain countries mad while designing their own missions without relying on existing geomerty.For example they can put the grand canyon in not-europe and just make a cool mission. Also they can just shift the odds in fictional countries and keep it believable instead of having Russia invade the Us for the zillioneth time.
>>740211853sexoooo
>>740226434Those are some big intakes.
>>740226492>>740226492>>740226492>>740226492
>>740223702Cool stuff. Do the spacenoids come pre-gassed or do they die during atmospheric entry?
>>740211386I hope so. I need something to play while waiting for PW2, and the older AC games are most certainly not it.
60 seconds until the trailer drops
>>740226842You can try Nuclear Option but it's pretty complex and there's not much single player support.I'm trying it and it's hard adjusting to how much more realistic than AC is. But it is fun nuking things at least.
I want to commit war crimes with this qt
Cool countdown
[ RAILGUN WARNING ]
press X to stand
Insane tunnel run so early.
>press x to standlmao it's Ass Horizon 2.0
>>740227291What the fuck was that gundam mech shit countdown, anyway? I thought this game was about planes.
>>740227434bandai gotta bandai
>AWACS is just "AWACS"bros?
ray chase confirmed lets go raybros
>ace introsAWWWW YEAH
ACE SQUADRONS ARE BACK
>flares useless again because you get so few per mission
ENEMY ACE SQUADS
>Drone Swarms
>umautist out of nowhere
>drones
>MISSILE? WHERE'S IT COMING FROM? EUGEEENE
Nice, you can destroy buildings now.
>sir they hit the third tower
>>740227754You could do that in AC7 already, I love destroying subs with buildings in Farbanti.
>my pc most likely won’t be able to run 8>forced to pre order it to get zero
>>740227518Apparently he's Dealer but the subtitle is AWACSMight be subject to change>>740227754You could do that in 7
Are they all gonna be Shadows I wonder. Very intriguing.
>>740227831MANDATORY RAYTRACING
>>740224437I hope they're just keeping them under wraps for now because COFFIN is very much a thing during the time period of the game.
>>740227852I like they have Lotus F1 livery
<< Your status, /v/? >>
>3 days early access for deluxe editionNow I'm obligated to pirate it, denuvo or not.
>>740227852Hey that OST is good.They might actually be cooking here
>wingman commands from 5>ace squadrons from zero>QTEs from assho>live service mode like InfinityTruly a new-gen game that takes everything they've learned in 30 years.
>AWACS sounds like a fagGlad I won't be playing in English.
>No new gameplay features apart from something stuff you could already do in 7It really is AC7 DLC. This series really is stagnating. The least they could do is borrow some mechanics from 6, the last game they actually bothered to innovate and push the series forward in.
I SAW IT AND I CLAPPED
>>740228109He's british. Don't be so harsh.
>>740227852>MY LORD I HAVE FAILED YOUThese Sotoans man
Machine guns seem way stronger like in PW.
>>740227842>do something cool>get no points for itbad developerthat level also has a forced sequence where you have to watch an npc play assault horizon which is incredibly awfulbad developer
>>740228132It's funnier in Long Day when Bandog calls you a drooling idiot for pulling this stunt
>>740227985Looks nice. I'll play it.
>>740211386Not a single ace combat has ever been "good"/thread
>>740222002This man knowsSeeing a ship on land gave me orange glow flashbacks
>>740228231I'm not seeing that. They seem to be water guns again.
>>740228243I just went and watched the 8 trailer again to check if they give you points this time, but NOPEGet FUCKED
The target lockon thing looks like it's from Joint Assault. If I'll be honest I'm glad for that cause it gets nauseating when I hold the target button and the enemy starts pulling bullshit maneuvers.
>>740228132see >>740228367
>>740228017It sounds like Rio Hanamoto doing Cross Rumble, which is probably exactly what it is.
>>740228403Gun downs like 4 different ground targets in a few moments of burst.
>>740228132>do dumb stunts like this>Tanya, being an aerobatic pilot, cums every time on missionI am so fucking ready.
Why do I have a feeling Keiki is not going to be involved with this? The music sounds more like Tetzukazu and Hiroshi's work.
Music had me worried at first, but the Shadow Unit theme seems okay.
>>740228537We already know he's involved, though he's not the main composer.
>>740228231nah. I don't feel the oomph.PW is more visceral desu.
>>740228537Interviews have him as not being the main composer, but he'll still be involved to a degree since he's responsible for the main themeIIRC it's Kitadani and Watanabe, the Magic Spear and Enchanter guys
>>740228403>>740228483Yeah but there's another moment where they use it on a plane and it doesn't seem effective.
Doesn't look like you can double up SPW?
>>740228537Too busy with fucking umas of all things.
>Ace Combat Zero Belkan War is being ported That sounds like it might be fun.
>>740228602Are others involved like Tetzukazu, Hiroshi or Rio? They're just as integral to AC music as Keiki is.
>>740228631Choose no weapon and you'll get double ammo on the first from what I heard. Choosing two gives you half ammo on each.
>>740228631Look at the ammo count, if you don't choose a second weapon you get more>6AAM goes from 30 to 18
>>740228665I see. That makes sense I suppose.
>>740228616There's a moment it's used on a larger plane and it goes down after a second or two.https://youtu.be/DcphpBvdt28&t=264Might be different against a fighter.
>>740228686>>740228665Ah yeah I see now.
>>740228707Here it destroys an A-50 in literally a secondhttps://youtu.be/DcphpBvdt28&t=357Guess it depends on where it's aimed + what plane it is, the guy playing isn't trying very hard.
Did the Sotoans erected Sky Wall or something what's going on here?
>>740228851Might be related to the orbital weapon >>740223702
>Try to download stream so I can rewatch that awesome countdown>It's been trimmed from the video
>>740228851It's just a fancy line, bro.
Useans are the most oppressed people on the planet
Selatapura has rejoined Erusea? I thought the treaty from the first Continential War was that Selatapura gains independence.
>SQUAD INTROS ARE BACKHORY SHIT
>>740228663Tetsukazu and Rio weren't involved even in AC7, though some of their tracks were in multiplayerOkubo was but he's not confirmed as far as I can tellI hope they can get Yamauchi back, Anchorhead Raid was sick
>>740228851Erusea seems to be doing okay>San Salvacion looks biggerWhat is their deal?
>>740228976Might be something from AC7.
>>740228898It's just one of the generic youtube countdowns you can select for premieres, not part of the video itself.
>>740228851>Cuts through North PointSotoa better tread real fucking careful>>740228976I'd wager the ISEV debacle probably ruined their economy so they joined up with whoever would take them
>>740229021They claim that a lot of the famous composers are there.
>>740229021>Tetsukazu and Rio weren't involved even in AC7Tetzukazu was involved. He only really made 3 tracks along with Hiroshi.
>>740228976Seems like it. And San Salvacion nommed the country below them.
>>740228851I still can't believe they built a space elevator on this politically unstable piece of shit continent where a war can happen every 10 years.Imagine if we built a critically important infrastructure over at the center of the fucking Middle East.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TT-ES0aRKYcThere's a stream happening with more info
>>740229096I see.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXoECDtzHME
>>740229254Nice, someone got a demo.
Big ups black science man
>ace combat 7 was release in 2019wtf, it feels like it released 2-3 years ago.
I wish they'd take real VR support after Project Wingman.
>>740229254>Aircraft are heavier than AC7>Acceleration has more momentum, gun is harder to aim as a result
Rewatching the Ace Combat 7 trailer and it's sooo fucking good
>>740229291>>740229254>no further info on ace combat onlinemeh
>>740229139Unlikely considering Osea bank-rolled the ISEV and installed the Arsenal Birds there as a way to keep the Eruseans in check but if that's not the case has Osea entered some sort of economic crisis they cannot support Selatapura.>>740229205Choppinburg? I thought they were already part of the FCU. Even on theofficial AC7 map the states which are part of the FCU are show with their separate names.
>>740229489>Can you hear me?
>>740229519>has Osea entered some sort of economic crisis they cannot support Selatapura.Considering the global satellite network exploded, General Resources is on the rise and we see in the trailer that the ISEV is breaking down/being attacked, yeah, probably
HANDS CONFIRMED
>>740227852That's the fucking icon the Nickelback squadmatr has tattooed on his left arm. LOOK AT IT.
>>740229659they already said the big "leap" for this game was that the pilots are rendered in the cockpits including squadmembers
>>740229430>>740229254>Guns are more powerful, 2 shots destroy a light traget: a drone for example, not as strong as AC6's though, target reticle is better than 7>enemies are referred to by their aircraft in the story often>destructible environments can give points, but those points don't show up on the HUD, e.g oil tanks>destructible environments can destroy enemy targets in chain reactions>enemy contrails exist now and can be used to locate enemies>clouds mess with visibility and the minimap>countermeasures/eletronic warfare are special weapons that increase lockon speed and such, recall this being a feature in AC7's DLC but you needed to be near AWACS for it>cockpit actually shows player & movements>AC Zero squadron intros are back>Events can be locked onto and looked at like how you look at enemy fighters you're locked onto>Large planes may have multiple targets for different parts
>>740229692How will that work anyway? Just on the replay cam once you finish the missions? I expected the models to show up in the mission dialog in the upper right corner, but it's just the portraits again. So all their faces they feature in every trailer, when exactly is that visible?
>F/A-18C>F/A-18E>F/A-18Fenough with the hornetsenough!
>>740211853RIP Tornado, they're never bringing you back
>>740229775We're in Canada now, so hornets is all you're getting. Enjoy it.
>>740229775welcome to the hive mother fucker
>>740229757replays + cutscenes I presume
>High G turns are backBooooo. They're an infinitely abusable panic button that cheapens the gameplay.
>>740229745>not as strong as AC6's though6's gun was insanely strong so that's both expected and good. Even though it was funny using the A-10 and being able to do like 50 missiles worth of damage in a few seconds.
I refuse to use two seater planes because I always think back to Shamrock's meltdown in AC6 and imagine his weapons officer in the backseat being like "Do you mind landing this plane before you kill yourself"
>>740229870it also is horrible for both enemy balance and making different player jets actually feel unique, but unfortunately it's just part of the series nowdon't worry you're not alone in your disappointment
>>740229775The demo guy said that for the carrier parts of the campaign, you can ONLY use carrier capable planes. It makes sense that they'd stack the roster with hornets.
>>740229775Legacy single seaterSuperbug single seaterSuperbug two seaterThey didn't even include the Growler
>>740211493I have the same question but instead of AC 4 and 5 it's VTOL VR and Project Wingman (and I haven't gotten very far into project wingman yet)
https://youtu.be/UIgfpdaVajA
>>740229578>Considering the global satellite network explodedIt's been 10 years after that and considering how fast Strangereal seems to pump out superweapons I won't be surprised if the global satellite network was restored in a timely manner. Then again, maybe the FCU isn't as stupid as Osea to make it so that their IFF or entire military network relies on satellites.>ISEV is breaking down/being attackedThat's the thing that's gotten me curious. If Osea still has control of the ISEV, wouldn't they get involved with the war in Usea again of Sotoa threatened its existence? But if Erusea controls Selatapura again, and by extension the ISEV, they could get involved too. Rosa was in the trailer so maybe the Eruseans will be allies now?
>>740229971But you can take Prowlers and Growlers again>Send your four-seater directly into the superweapon barrel
>>740229971Now think about how Wardog canonically flew two seaters.
>>740229745>Yes or No questions are back>Post-stall maneuvers are still there, work at below 500km/h>Enemies will use clouds to break missile locks, will also avoid clouds due to turbulence>New fighter subtype is Electronic Warfare, with the Prowler & Growler>Can carry 2 special weapons now, choosing 1 gives you more ammo though>Part customization is the same as 7, you can modify body, arms and misc>Part size system is gone though, you're limited to slots per category>Starter plane is F-18C>Single player parts don't carry into multiplayer>Airplanes are bought separately for wingmen
>>740230075The true unsung heroes
>The ghost of Jane Cope talks to us during missionsNot sure I like this. Reminds me of Cyberslop
>Still no WSO waifu confirmedHave they not learned ANYTHING from PW?
>>740229226>what is the Suez Canal
>>740230031>Cope randomly talking in missionsKINO.
>>740229226Harling was trying to bring peace to the region by involving Usea more, it just didn't work out.
>>740230031>big battleship fires a salvo towards you>mission starts>you have 4 seconds to get out of the way or take damageWew lad, talk about impact.
...okay?>>740230213I'm surprised they didn't copy that, yeah. It was pretty well received. Even though the implementation was terrible since none of the mid/high or high tier planes are two seaters so you had to use weak ones to bring her.
>sending suicide bombers into the giant enemy tankGuys. Are we the... baddies?
>>740230031>you can select the aircraft of your squadmatesMaybe the allies will be more useful this time around?
>>740228390you get points
>>740230354>>740230213Prez got wet, wild and did dirty, dirty things.
>>740230031Who the fuck is Cope?
>>740230176>>740230249>I can feel the souls of the bassist and drummer leaving me behind>Like me, they can't afford to wander around here forever>Because our friends are waiting on the other sideHaha what the fuck man
>>740230213Hope its a cute twink this time, too many hoes talking behind my chair in all these plane games
>f14 locked behind preorderingWell now I'm not going to pay 100 dollars + tip for the game so enjoy going bankrupt from pirating Bandai
>>740229870I mean, it's not like this shit wasn't in older games, it wasn't just called that.
<<Rex, stop gooning to Tasha and destroy those bombers>>
>>740230375That's pretty much a standard feature for games with wingman commands (except zero).
Thoughts on bang with fringe
>>740230469The original Wings of Theve who died in the first trailer
>>740228243>that level also has a forced sequence where you have to watch an npc play assault horizonYou choose to just not follow him while he's doing that. He's invincible until he's finished, anyway.
>>740230493Just buy the deluxe version bro I'm sure you're wasting the money in some other part of your budget you love Ace Combat don't be a bitch
>>740230375Nothing new, you did that in 5
>>740230469He's the guy COPING with being dead.
>>740230493It's the A, you're still getting the D normally
>>740230543>Infinite gunDevs playing on Easy mode
>>740230475What gave you this slop, jeetGPT?
>>740230558Most of us haven't played the games before 7.
>>740230643I shat it out of my plebian N3 ass.
Looks like AC7 (even the graphics), so the game is going to be good
>cope is a newtype ghostOkay so who is this guy?
>>740230543>K. EvansMommy
>>740230550>>740230573I didn't even realize it's him. I thought it was some sort of AI bullshit or something. So he's gonna give us advice as a spirit or is he just there as some sort of flashback voice saying things about the Sotoans?
>>740230807It's more likely Rex will have Survivor PTSD that comes out in Cope showing up.
>>740230807Johnny Ship, Strangereal's Tom Cruise.
https://youtu.be/mNNfbJDMRwI?si=pAGR4_fYik4aiEER&t=501Shadows squadron entrance and music, seems cool.
>>740230807That's my boy Rooster.
Today I just learned Assault Horizon Legacy is actually an AC2 remake and the original name is Cross Rumble. How good is it? Does it play more like the PS2 ACs?
>Music is an actual theme of the game's story apparently
>>740230843He's waxing poetry at the start of the mission >>740230475 but his lines at the release date trailer makes it seems like he's watching over you.
>>740230949Finally, a macross crossover.
>>740228851firewall of death that deletes drones who cross it
>>740231017I mean Noise is apparently a rock music guy, I could see that being something he brings.
My guessRex will have survivor's guilt/imposter syndrome so you Hallucinate Cope until you truly become an ace like how Fox hallucinated his dad at the end of SF64
>>740230031this navy is not taking things seriouslythey are not serious
>>740231072Nah, Cope was just such a good ace that he became a force ghost.
>>740229870>furrygger>retarded opinionevery time.
>>740230231It was built way before Israel destroyed the region.
>>740230909It's actually pretty good but a little below the PS2 games, it's a handheld game so if you've played X then you should set your expectations to around that levelThe main issue is that it has DFM but it's significantly less obnoxious and almost entirely optional (though Beast and ZOE will probably give you grief if you don't use it)I enjoyed it, would recommendEmulation also means you can grab all the planes that have Nintendo liveries, too
>>740231112What does it say?
>nigger already asking me to not kill his old buddies because they have kids :(Hope this dude dies.
>ESM module is now a gameplay mechanicSALVATION
<< BLAZE UH I MEAN REY DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE ENEMIES FEELINGS? I SURE HOPE WE CAN MAKE PEACE WITH THEM SOMEDAY >>YES < > NO
>>740231242Which video? And Baxter is a Sotoan traitor or what?
Big units have proper health bars now going to be slinging bombs at airships again
>>740231131You're just sad about Iranian Tomcat-chan's fate.
>>740231347https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxyAEbP-P_wHere, 12 minutes in. He's not a traitor, he just knew the Shark unit before the war and they joined the other side, I guess.
>>740231325>yes no is backKINO
>>740211853The XFA-27 is simply the coolest design, I hope they bring it back.
>>740231325>That one part where the black guy says "I want him alive, aim around the cockpit">Your only responses are "yes" or "no".How about "Nigga do you seriously think I can aim around the cockpit"?
>>740230354we Gran Turismo nao
>>740231530yes
According to this guy, the flight style is actually somewhat similar to AC3.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaDCVQ7P8nI
>>740231427So traitor units like Wizard and Sorcerer?
>>740231236She's shocked you're destroying the buildings to block the land battleship because one of them is a hotel that has good cakes :(
>>740231623I've heard a couple of people compare the weight of the planes to 4.
>>740231530
>>740230354So there's aircraft maintenance now?
>>740215306Sure would've been nice if they ported 6 to PC rather than 0 since it's still suck in 360 hell
ROCKET POWERED LAND BATTLESHIP
I don't know how I feel about the shadows being commanded by a woman too.
>>740231623RIP the early OP railgun
AC7 is my first and Mission 17 is filtering me hard. I feel like I have bumbled my way through 16 missions and hit a wall trying to take down 4 bombers while their escorts rape my ass. How do I git gud?
>>740231785Thankfully the recompilation is coming along nicely.
>>740231837Cliche question but have you started using the expert controls yet? The game is genuinely harder with the standard (casual) controls.
>>740231792
>>740231623>Wingman is way better than any previous game aside from maybe AC6Nice
>>740231792This is kinda stupid.
>>740231831If they're going to let you pick two weapons they really need to increase the options. Go back to 6 style and have four specials per plane at least. With this setup you're not even picking the ones you want, you're picking the single one you don't.
I love Tasha already. Hope they don't kill her off.
>>740231831They removed the pulse laser guns that everyone loved in AC7, too. They kept in high G turns but removed our PLSL!
>>740231530It's a reasonable request with a real plane, if you can line up for a shot with the guns you can go for the wingsBut in AC there's no such thing as breaking off a wing
>>740231837Bring the SU-35 with LAAMs. Lock onto the targets and hold the change target button so you recognize them faster. When the bomber comes focus only on the bombers until they're dead, ignore the escorts and any ground targets left. Same goes for the mass driver ship, focus only on it.
>>740231837If you know it's an enemy, you don't have to do the whole ID thing, just blow em upYou might also want to consider using different special weapons, stuff designed for taking out distant air targets like LAAM or PLSL (be mindful that PLSL gets countered by clouds)
>>740232008you can give orders to your wingmates and there's a branching dialogue systemone of your wingmates will die 100% based on your answers
>>740231503my goat
>>740231785Apparently there's a lot of shit AC games and Assault Horizon is one of them. We just need ports of the Golden Trilogy and a 100% faithful remake of Electrosphere.
>>740229659Niggas are already controlling planes with their minds and I'm still here using my hands like a neanderthal.
>>740231970Wingman in AC6 was basically calling in tactical bombardments on the enemy It was OP as shit
>>740232097>one of your wingmates will die 100% based on your answers><< Hey Rex, what do you think of that song? >>><< You didn't listen to it? 'Back of the Coin' was a masterpiece! >>>dies
>>740211493Schizo mega tanks everywhere
Bruh they've brought back the cutscenes qte.https://youtu.be/WY9NO4GQJRk
>>740217013>only 3 is scifi adjacent>2 has the ZOE series of AI superplanes>4 has you fight a ring of giant railguns designed to shoot down meteorites>5 has you fight an orbital ship that fires lasers>0 has a gigantic tower that fires lasers that it bounces off of mirror drones>7 has drone warfare as a major point of both story and combatIronically the Aigaion is probably the least sci-fi poster boy superweapon.
>>740232097Seems more like flavor so far. I can totally see a couple of these retards defecting, though.
>>740232125I highly doubt Bamco is going to bother with a full-on remake of Electrosphere. Back in 1999, it was one of Namco's most expensive games but they got nothing in returns. Bamco now knows how AC3 is liked, the Japanese version at least, but considering AC3 was a net negative dunno if they'll bother with that.
>>740231831The maintenance crews running around the hangar is a nice touch for scale the Flanker is massive
>>740232230I know it was an insane thing to hope for but I'm a little disappointed you can't walk around parts of the aircraft carrier yourself
>>740232285A lot of people really seem to have zero comprehension of how Electrosphere could not have been done on the PS2, never mind the fucking PS5. It was Namco at their absolute peak.
>>740231792THEY FLY NOW?!
>>740232125Most of the games are good, most of the shit ones besides AH and International 3 are portable or literal mobile games that nobody even thinks about because of how inaccessible they areWhen was the last time anyone brought up Advance?
>>740232370I know it could never be done justice but damn, in my fantasies I want it to get that perfect remake that somehow manages to keep every bit of the style intact.
Only Carrier based Aircraft can be used during Campaign (Free Mission excluded)
>>740232323>player character is a schizoFinally a character that /v/ can self insert as!
>>740232323is this from the project aces website? link?
>>740232514That's only in the first few missions.
>>740232526 looks like famitsu
>>740232320versus an older Mirage
>>740232550>No proofIt's gonna be carrier planes all the way, baby.
The game director is Katabuchi Suano? Was Kono just reduced to a brand manager now?
AC7 was borderline a chore to play. It's not fun to have to keep breaking off and flying in wild circles as MISSILE MISSILE MISSILE MISSILE endlessly screams in your ears.
>>740232786The trick is realising that most of those missiles were never going to hit you in the first place
It's really nice for them to include a new free game with the rerelease of Zero.
Is there a PDF of the Aces of War 2019 book? I've been trying to look around for ages but I haven't found anything.
we are the good guys, right?
>>740232125The only shit AC games are 1 and AH.
>>740232986During the land battleship mission the idea is to use trucks rigged with explosives to immobilize it by sneaking them under its movement systems cause, other than the weapons, the armor is too thick to damage.
>>7402330711 is fineIt doesn't deserve to be placed next to AH at any rate
>>740232323>Dies but maybe not>game takes place one year before the first sublimation experimentBelkan witchcraft?
So what did Belka do this time?
>>740230360They're unmanned, unfortunately.
Do you think we'll start seeing AC3 stuff? We are getting preety close to it on the timeline. I really don't want 3 to be retconned
>>740233080I feel like bunker busters and such would work, though.
>>740233145The main theme of the game is information warfare. Controlling the narrative and such. Maybe Belka is employing people to post positive comments about Belka online.
>>740211853>real worldBerkut forever and always>AC original The Falken. No other AC superplane has stuck with me like it has.
>>740232963you mean this one?https://files.catbox.moe/p5kcad.pdf
>>740233174Deathless green doesn't seem very "unmanned". His exchange felt insufferably corny in Japanese, I can't imagine how bad it'll be in English.
>Infinity's development tree>Infinity's parts system...Infinity's multiplayer?
If there isn't a mission with bunch of flying wings that look like a world war 2 bomber formation that I can't kill the one up high and cause a domino effect watching fall and take out 10 more then this game is shit and I will regret playing it.
>>740233324Dear God...
I haven't watched the trailer yet. Are the Belkans gonna get what they fucking deserve?
>>740232962lelI hate it :^)
>>740233189Progression of technology in the real world means that really fucking cool shit like COFFINs has been replaced with insanely gay shit like quadcopters and drone swarms. AC3 is getting retconned if we ever get there.
>>740233353Operation Eternal Liberation will return in Ace Combat Online.
>>740233371what do you mean
>>740232323>the ghost of theve
>>740228898I think this has most of themhttps://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLrswH13LGL5KBlLK36qBnXCiL2r5ZnrlS
>>740233430Operation Eternal Liberation returned last week, you can emulate Infinity with working multiplayer now
>>740231926Been using them.>>740232067>>740232075This is probably the issue. I was using the F35 and I did choose a multi-lock but wasn't utilizing it enough. I just hate the tagging because it seems finicky for how long it takes
1 HOUR LONG PRE-RELEASE GAMEPLAY VIDEO JUST DROPPED AND IT'S IN ENGLISH https://youtube.com/ryRVSF6t6VA
>>740227808>Destroying your own infrastructure to stop or slow the enemy.Unironically kino.
>>740233562Nigger how do you cut out the very middle of the link trying to control + c/v?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryRVSF6t6VA
>>740233562>EnglishNo thanks. Looks like press only got 3 missions.
>>740233562Fucked up the linkhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=ryRVSF6t6VA&feature=youtu.be
>>740229785Yeah, RIP. I actually saw two Tornados hauling ass on a low altitude training flight when I was out hiking a few years back. Pretty cool, the sound they made as they approached first made me think that there was some high-speed train running by on the other side of the hill.
>>740233145>>740233298inb4 its (((Grey Men))) remnants
OwO what's this?
https://youtu.be/OaDCVQ7P8nI?t=869Heh
>>740233959Yeah this is gonna be 30FPS on console without upscaling
>>740233945>General Resource with another super subI guess the Alicorn was cool
>>740233189Good news >>740233945
>>740231972You're kinda stupid
>>740234040Judging from the requirements it's going to be 30fps even with upscaling. Fucking UE5.
>>740231112Nobody listened to me when I said we shouldn't let women in the airforce.
>>740232786Lower the difficulty
>>740232173Did you see any ENSI COFFINS in that video? No!
>>740232786just break and tilt up just before missile hits.
>a ghost will tell you to COPE the whole timeAAAIIIEEEEEEEEE WHAT IS THIS??I missions look as kino as ever. It's also a bit too similar to 7 but eh that was a great game anyway I won't mind more of that.I just hope they'll improve the ennemy ai and increase the difficulty.A Flanker has no issue going through land target and ships, I really wish they could fix that too. There's little reason to ever go for attackers. Ironically the only game in the series that made attackers more attractive was Infinity.
>>740234040>barely looks better than 7 which barely looked better than 6>requires 10x more powerful hardware to runWhy does this keep happening?
>>740234828I'm hoping attackers will shine in co-op.
>>740234040My 5070ti is ready (probably)
>>740234040well at least I get to play zero at 60 fps
Damn I need to upgrade my GPU to run this
>>740234902UE5 moment
>>740232230Kek, I can't wait to fail all of them.
OOOOOOoooOOHH ooohh OOOHHhttps://youtu.be/GMiClH1JNx8?si=KSxMigXMDYqS40Qm&t=645
>>740231792>flying land battleship that massproduces drones via 3d printingYeah sure why the fuck not
>>740216817Americans have proven time and again they are retarded meat golems who will complain when a game uses legally distinct versions of vehicles, heaven forbid anything actually original.If there isn't a badge to worship they lose all interest.
>>740232775You are aware the only game he directed was 5 right? Kono's usually producer and his background is in art, its actually very good that they develop younger guys to run PA since hes been in the game more then 30 years. Honestly its impressive hes played nice enough with the psychotic robots who run Bamco to still be around.
Character design for AC6 was done by the fire emblem awakening person
Can someone give a brief rundown of the Ace Combat games before 7 and whether they're worth playing?
>>740235782All the numbered games are worth playingX as wellYou can play Infinity now but it's unfinished and more for pve multiplayer content (which you can also play)For 3 you want the translated Japanese version because the International version is missing 4/5ths of its contentAssault Horizon sucks but Assault Horizon Legacy is just a remake of 2 so it's goodJoint Assault is jank but has coop
>>740235782I would say they're all worth it. You can skip 1 and 2 though since they're far more arcadeish than the ones after and also don't have any story. 3 is a bit unique since it's very "Japanese", you should give it a try and judge by yourself whether you can enjoy it or not. As far as I know the US release is gutted and does not have any story, so you'll have to get the Jap one.4-7 are all great, though 6 is a bitch due to emulation issues. I think you can basically just deal with the series in any way you want, you could play in a random order or just start from 1 and make your way up like I did.
Where do I find an Evans gf? she's hot.
Will bamco drip feed us with AC8 details for the next 5 months? I don't want to leave you bros after this.
>>740236140They are mostly really good1 is pretty basic and 2 has GREAT gameplay but it's not as engaging as future entries3 is the only game with branching paths4 5 and 0 are the distilled essence of ACfrom there the games have been trying to introduce gimmicks they also drop immediately in the next entry
>>740236397I wasn't on there but the AC general on vg survived from the Infinity days up until now, that's kinda crazy
>>740236359>You can skip 1 and 2 though since they're far more arcadeish than the ones after and also don't have any story.t. didn't actually play 2
>>740236359>though 6 is a bitch due to emulation issuesXenia emulation is almost completely bug free nowadays, and there's a decomp on the way>>740236438>3 is the only game with branching pathsX also has branching paths, and there's some very minor, one or two missions worth branches in 5 and Zero (and 1, sorta)
>>740233562>englishThank fuck, tired of all the unreadable gobbledigook runes
>>740236371Seriously I like her a lot more than Tasha.
>>740236597/aceg/ is faster than ever thanks to AC8, we're glory days againProbably also helps that Infinity is emulatable again so organising multiplayer matches is even easier
>>740230807
>>740236696>Infinity is emulatable again so organising multiplayer matches is even easierHoly shit it's already working??? I thought it was just the single playerIf it's not too hard to set up I'll definitly check
>>740236840Yeah it's pretty easy to set upAnd the launcher comes with unlimited fuel and a save editor so you're not stuck with horrible horrible grind
>>740235782Air Combat: an arcade port without much plot, as far as I understand.Ace Combat 2: the Zone Of Endless (ZOE) AI starts a war, you shoot her down.Ace Combat 3: An elaborate simulation of the corporate-dominated Usea of the 2040s concocted by a vengeful scientist, all to ensure that the sublimated personality of a man he blames for the death of the girl he liked will be destroyed no matter what.Ace Combat 4: Erusea invades the rest of the Usean continent with the support of the Stonehenge anti-meteor railgun array (made to try and counter the Ulysses meteor which fucked up Strangereal to a heavy degree). An international coalition pushes the Eruseans back to their capital city.Ace Combat 5: Crypto-Belkans in the Osean government start a war between Osea and Yuktobania as part of an elaborate revenge plot for the events of...Ace Combat 0: Belka invades their neighbours, and a coalition pushes back until Belka nukes themselves seven times. Ideologues then steal another nuke and try to use it for their own ends (the removal of global borders)Ace Combat 6: Estovakia invades Emmeria, but the Emmerians manage to liberate themselves.Ace Combat Assault Horizon: Not set on Strangereal. It's Call of Duty with jets and all the worst trappings of the 7th console generation.I haven't even touched the portable games. All worth playing except AssHor.
>>740237009*touched ON the portable games. They're worth playing!
>>740227985
>>740237009Feel like you got a little too spoilery there.
>>740230031what is that voiceover during the briefingit sounds like AI translationis that what it is?
>>740237416Good games are good even if you know what's going to happen.
>>740231831>carrier heavy game>still no MiG-29Kwhy are they like this?
>>740230031>>740237464>youtube automatically turns on their horrible ai translationfuck off youtube
>bamco let an army of literally whos record and upload everything 5 months before the game comes outFor what fucking purpose
>>740237474To be frank I have no interest in AC3 now because you said it's all fake.
>>740237724Do you really want to miss out on piloting this beauty?
>>740237464>>740237525I hadn't listened to it for obvious reasons but I checked it since you brought it up.Yeah that's pretty fucking bad.
>>740230375>Easy mode activated
>>740233562Video got removed.
>>740237769None of it is real, so why bother?
>>740211386Most of the game will be set in 2030, which means the Night Raven will probably return. The hints are all over, given General Resource's logo appears and the game's set when the DOE project was still active.
>>740237902Strangereal isn't real either...
>>740237902Nothing in the Matrix is real and it's still a great movie. AC3 is a good game and is worth playing.
>>740237724It's more complicated than that, but anon probably shouldn't have brought up something you find out 50 missions into the gameBut it's not his fault really, most people talk about Electrosphere like it's common knowledge, and the background for why that twist (one of a few) happens is really, really funny
>>740237871Everything of importance was already relayed ITT.
>>740230031tasha is growing on mealso COPE is based
>>740233145Belka has never done anything wrong.
>>740211853MiG-31M the GOAT that never was.
>>740237724The setting is real, the only thing fake is what Nemo experiences, which are simulations based in real data. All those aircraft exist in-universe. Nemo's developer had access to a lot of military intel.
>>740223702I FLIPPIN' LOVE EXPLODING SPACE RODS, IT'S LITERALLY THE COOLEST THING EVER AND I'M PRETTY SURE THE BIG BOOM AT THE END OF THE STATE OF PLAY TRAILER IS THAT SHIT FIRINGso anyway are /v/e happy about ac8? Why is the gameplay showcase on drooling retard controls? I can't believe people actually use it instead of taking literally 5 minutes how to fly without crashing, it takes away so much from the experience especially in first person, it's like your plane glides instead of just flying like it shouldwhy don't they call "normal" instead of "expert" controls and the drooling retard will be called "game journalist" controls?
>>740237769To see this beauty in full HD would be a dream come true.
>>740237902It's Strangereal :^)Jokes aside, the difference between a simulation and a simple piece of fiction is that the simulation extrapolates based on what's plugged into it. AC3's events WILL happen.
>>740238059Yeah the simulation is designed to be close enough to reality that the antagonist always gets what he wants regardless of what route you take, so by the time you're done with all possibilities, he decides to unleash you on the worldThere's a good amount of people who think a future Electrosphere sequel will have Nemo doing something completely unexpected anyway
>you can equip drop tanks but it's cosmetic only and you can drop them manuallyBut y tho
>>740238239I'm personally hoping for a fake-out remake. Nemo comes in as a rival or Wingman. I think at some point one of our wingmen has to be AI.
>>740211853F-4 Phantom, my beloved.
>>740233353in time for godzilla?
I'm convinced that, if this game does well, we'll begin to see Ace Combat spinoffs, like an FPS game set in the same universe.
I hope the new game's soundtrack will have anything as good as the buildup in The Liberation of Gracemeria
>>740238467That's what I'm expecting too if they got that far. Obviously a faithful remake of something as ambitious as 3 is impossible.
>>740238762Ridge Racer bros we are so back.
>>740215112You can buy it for consoles too but only the digital version. For now.
>>740238672I'd actually forgotten they had that event.That was a weird one.
>>740238762There was talk about doing a shooter a long time ago, set in SapinIt'd be fun to be part of Bravo during the ground attack inside Megalith
>>740238467>the objective is to protect nemos's targets and ultimately defeat them>the main drive for this is that you have a emotional/blood connection with the targets, specially your wingmen>the twist is that the wingmen are real, we are a AIthe emotional connection is all fake>we then either destroy nemo or merge with them
>>740211386I was really kinda hoping that the slow speed aerial moves were going to changed to imitate PW, but it doesn't look like it. It was absolutely useless in AC7, the speed requirement was so low that you'd spend about three seconds airbraking before you could do it. PW didn't give a shit, it'd let you do it under a 1000 knots or something like that.
>>740238762I've always advocated for Battlefield's modern-era entries to just set themselves in a Strangereal-type world rather than pretend that Russia is an actual threat.
Captain Ishaq's voice is way better in japanese unfortunately
>>740230213>>740230354>>740230491look at backseat, WSO are those AI things like in the back of Mihaly's plane in AC7
>>740237009>I haven't even touched the portable games. All worth playing except AssHor.There's one good reason to play Assault Horizon.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVx1kq0B38U
Does anyone have recommendations for flight sticks
>>740239389I recommend not using a stick for Ace Combat.
>>740239357GOTTA STAY FLYGOTTA STAY STRONGWE BEACE READYALL DAY LONG
>>740238059The twist is a huge part of AC3's narrative though, after a few routes you'll be asking the questions of why you can't side with Dision and why things keep going to shit, and the final reveal explains everything. Knowing the twist in advance basically takes away all of the mystique that gives an incentive to keep trying the other routes.
>japanese pronounce podarge as ポダルゲ or po-dar-geh>english pronounce podarge as po-darjhahaha what the fuck?
>>740239429But I want that true arcade experience
>>740238827>Obviously a faithful remake of something as ambitious as 3 is impossible.You guys talk about it like it's fucking Baldur's Gate 3 or something. It's a game full of reused assets and similar missions taking place in the same maps across different routes. The overall size of the game isn't any bigger than the newer games which have focused on campaigns where every map is distinct. The only reason a remake would be impossible is because of the enshittification of game companies where for most of them simply meeting the same level of quality they once did is an impossibility.
>>740239505For me the incentive is Rena;_;
>>740230691more like you haven't played the games before 7
>>740231325I don't like the UI prompt in thisit doesn't blend in well with the HUDshould've made it flat like 5 >>740231712
>>740231530I happened to stumble on that line in a Japanese video and it's kind of a bad translation. He should be saying please don't aim at the cockpit, which is a lot more reasonable.
>>740239357wait did they really delist Ass Horizon from steam kek
>>740240356Yup. Probably licensing issues which is why they are "giving" Zero away as a pre-order bonus.
>>740238762I'm fucking convinced that if this game does well, we'll finally see an Ace Combat anime.
>>740230375>everyone in A10sBRRRRT
>>740240872>put everyone into A-10s for one mission>mission complete leads straight into a rehash of 8492
Mission 4 feels like Anchorhead Raid 2 in every way
>>740211386Such a big explanation of how the game works and its still just another "wait for lkong and press circle game" Ace combat gameplay has not evolved at all since Ac1
>>740233353The parts system made its debut in AH and was in 7 too. It looks like the blocks are gone though, somehow, that'll make a plane even more overpowered, late tree placments? lol
>>740241652Goodit should be even more arcade.
>>740232323Talk to me rooster
>>740242102>MAVERICK, THEY HOOKED MY CONSCIOUSNESS ON AN EXPERIMENTAL COFFIN SYSTEM AND STRAPPED IN ON A PLANE>YOU NEED TO PLAY AC3 ELECTROSPHERE NOW
>>740236993I've noticed a lot of people are stuck in that grind. I hope its not willingly. I don't know why they' want to subjegate themselves to that hell.
>>740242432Experiencing some natural progression is alright, not everyone wants to jump to instant max level on everythingThough it's a problem when the two groups mix and people just don't have fun, which is unfortunate
