>woman replacing a man:O>man replacing a woman:|
the first game sold for like $1 on salenobody cares
it's another dual protagonist game, they just haven't revealed that yet
>>740212310Is this literally the only modern franchise where a man replaced a woman instead of the other way around?
>>740212310You can tell Alan Wake 2 bombing freaked Remedy out and now they're course correcting with this and the Max Payne remakes
Female protag haters are gigacringe. Control 2 looks fun btw, I hope Jesse is a boss or something.>>740212356I doubt it
>>740212357Can't think of any other IP which has done this recently, so that's probably true.
>>740212393>>740212357saros too
>>740212438not really a series, more like two unrelated games
>>740212473The female protags in Returnal and Control were basically men so it's a similar situation
>>740212356I would like that too but it seems like a big ask for Remedy
The original actress for control 1 got bogged so remedy had no choice but to change the protag to have someone with a normal face to scan
>>740212310>needs to sell 4 mill to break evenyeah remedy is absolutely fucked
>>740212595Nah Jesse in Control was basically a girl failure. It's funny how people meme'd that she was somehow a girlboss when in game she's insecure as fuck
>>740212683remedy relies on external publishers for all games they've released, this time annapurna is financing CR
>>740212310Woah... it's like Saaros all over again...
>>740212310It was a woman in the first one?
>MTF>:(
>>740212691I meant they both have dominant masculine features which is the reason nobody cares that they're replaced by men, very few people even pay attention to the garbage writing in Remedy games
i don't remember a single thing about control
You people will talk about anything but videogames.
He still looks as uninteresting as the chick. Hate that so many AAA games are incapable of having a protag that has some charisma now. None of them are interesting or compelling, none of them make you want to see them succeed or to see more of them.Weird to me that some think the first game is good or that it's a good SCP type organization game. Neither are true. It was boring and the writing was sleep inducing, and I guess they think that any company that would deal with researching something weird is "SCP" to some. Some environments were neat but that's about it.
>>740212976it had 3 enemy types and the best way to kill them was with the starting pistol
>>740212976you should get your severe brain fog issue checked out by a medical professional llm
>>740212976You are a worm through time.The thunder song distorts you.Happiness comes.White pearls, but yellow and red in the eye.Through a mirror, inverted is made right.Leave your insides by the door.Push the fingers through the surface into the wet.You've always been the new you.You want this to be true.We stand around you while you dream.You can almost hear our words but you forget.This happens more and more now.You gave us the permission in your regulations.We wait in the stains.The word that describes this is redacted.Repeat the word.The name of the sound.It resonates in your house.After the song, time for applause.We build you till nothing remains.The egg cracks and the truth will emerge out of you.You are home.You remind us of home.You've taken your boss with your boss with you.All hair must be eaten.Under the conceptual reality behind this reality you must want these waves to drag you away.After the song, time for applause.This cliche is death out of time, breaking the first the second the third the fourth wall, the fifth wall, floor; no floor: you fall!How do you say "insane"?Hurts to be happy.An ear worm is a tune you can't stop humming in a dream: "baby baby baby yeah".Just plastic.So, safe and nothing to worry about.Ha ha, funny.The last egg breaks now.The hole in your room is a hole in you.You came and we let you in through the hole in you.You have always been here, the only child.A copy of a copy of a copy.Orange peel.The picture is you holding the picture.When you hear this you will know you're in new you.You want to listen.You want to dream.You want to smile.You want to hurt.You don't want to be.
>>740212348lol this
Because no one gives a shit about Control after they shot themselves in the foot with epic exclusivity. Only 25% of the players of the game are actual paid copies and a majority of those are when it was cheap as shit during it's very many sales. I don't see many of them paying full price for a sequel.
>>740212393Not recently, but only one I can even think of is No One Lives Forever
>>740212310Now I will (may) play (pirate) your game.
>>740212310this is the first remedy game Im actually interested in
in Control, Jessie actually does steal her brother's life because Alan Wake wrote her into existence. She was his tulpa.
>>740214759what?
>>740212310>regression:O>improvement:D
>>740212310I had no idea they even swapped leads. I was half asleep for the absolute state of play and I fucking swore I saw jessie doing psychic shit in it, but it turned out to be Jean Grey. >>740212821Saaros doubled the budget and added indians. I don't think this is a fit.
>>740214750i doubt it will be an improvement over 1. control 1 was meh and this one will be too
>>740212976>>740213101I liked it even if it was shakey, and really needed some new enemies. I can't remember 2 thirds of it and I am blaming Alan wake for it. Or more specifically the shit writers of AW2. I remember being a full hour in before recognizing it as SCP. I vaguely remember creepy kids shows and a finnish janitor with a walkman. I remember a lot of clocks. I remember the rock music level, which was on par with portal. And I remember thinking that this Allan Wake dude must be a giant dick.>>740214780Alan Wake narrates Jessie's life in the third person. He's writing her story, so when he writes her backstory, his past gets dynamically changed as he writes. >>740213183Competely incompetent marketing. Nobody I know, a few who liked control knew FBC firebreak was a control game.
>>740215074Eh, if it's just control with extra enemies and interesting environments, I think it will be at least discount bin good. If they let the people who fucked up AW2 run the show, I'm fucking out though.
>>740212310I never even finished the first game. The only thing I remember is her brother is apparently like super powerful, and the agency was interested in him since he was a kid. The story for Control is just kinda...out there. I tried paying attention but maybe I was just too stupid to understand it. It's like X-Files on cocaine or something.
>>740215726A big chunk of the story is actually in the Allan Wake games. Don't sweat it. >It's like X-Files on cocaine or something.Pretty much. It's Scully finds a problem at the SCP vault and is going to have to smack a bitch.
>>740212310Dude actually looks better than the woman in Control.
>>740212310Replaced who???? Super forgettable mid game gets a sequel?? The reason no one cares about the swap is because no gives a fuck about that piece of shit game you retarded plebbitor tourist, game was so fucking shit no one is even excited for this sequel, doesnt matter how much marketing and astroturfing those mossadniggers from annajewda do.
>tfw I'm the only one who liked JesseIt's not her fault her creators gave her a 40-years-old face as a joke.
>>740216645It's ok. She's going to finland with a giant cube to fight death, fate and china..
>>740212310No. I am >:(Give me my redhead back! Although I am more than cool with the new gameplay being DMC.
Does control have good level design? I remember a friend talk about the game once
>>740217296No.
>>740217296It has like 2 good levels, but because of the movement mechanics and enemies, they have to reuse the fuck out of everything to stretch it out.
Is this game Dark Souls hard?????
>>740214759>in Control, Jessie actually does steal her brother's life because Alan Wake wrote her into existence. She was his tulpa.>>740215084>Alan Wake narrates Jessie's life in the third person. He's writing her story, so when he writes her backstory, his past gets dynamically changed as he writes.When and where was this mentioned? Alan Wake 2?
>>740217371lol no
>>740212310I'll give it a try now that it's an actual protagonist and not a girlboss. Plus it might just look really good with the updated RR+PT.
>>740212310is the remedyverse worth getting into?
>>740217523lol, no.
>>740217518Jesse is as far as you can get from a girlboss. She is an actual character that improves as you progress through the story.
>>740217523Nah.
>>740217387note that from Jessie's perspective, this is confusing as fuck when Wake writes shit. The easiest to understand part is in the Control DLC...which actually is part of the Allan Wake plot.
>>740217523I would rate it a play it once and forget it. And it's ok to not understand some of the weird shit.
>>740212310>main character is maledropped. simple as.
>>740217712You skipped the alan wake games anyways. Plenty of other shit for you.
>>740212310Control was spun off from a series about a man
>>740217621I've finished Control and the AWE DLC and while I remember Wake being heavily involved in it, I don't remember (or maybe I didn't know he could) him rewriting reality.I was very interested in Alan Wake 2 after playing Control but the first thing they showed from the game was the Saga race swap and I lost all interest.
>>740217804and became better in every way, both actually having gameplay, and a female main.
Loved all the recent Remedy games, plebs here were fucked in the head by trans propaganda.
>>740213136I love that they're keeping Dylan's affinity to the Hiss as being one of the driving factors in the plot of the second game too.
i refuse to play alan wake 2 because i dont support games with blacksso im probably ignorant as to how control ties into the alan wake thing. hope it isnt super important to know for the game
>>740212310>21 yeads old franchiseVS>"Franchise" that just got its second gameReally, same situation, OP?
>>740212348before going to sale it sold already more than metroid beyond
I was going to buy the game, but now I'll have to pre-order it.
>>740213136>be Alan Wake>have utterly nothing to do with Control whatsoever>bored as fuck in the Dark Place>suddenly some aliens from another dimension show up and ask you to write them a scary chant for them to use when possessing people>do it basically as a side project since you have nothing better to doWhat the hell is his problem
>>740212310loved the brutalism in the first one, not sure they can pull such kino style on a city scale
>>740216645I thought Jesse was fun enough and I never really paid much mind to her face before.If nothing else, she has the fact that she never felt like a girlboss meme writing character going for her.
>>740217970I think it's skippable. Just know Alan Wake is a writer, and the shit he writes becomes real....sort of . He gets stuck in magical horror shit. Cannot write his way out. Writes himself a hero, and the hero needs to face a crisis. >>740218234Alan Wake is a depressed mentally unstable alcholic dickwad who cannot imagine himself getting better enough for his magic writing powers to work, so he needs to imagine a slightly walled as in modern western female game lead as having a bunch of problems that HE gave her to fix things.>>740218317They can't. It needs a mix of visuals anyways. And that will help by making the brutalist designs stand out more.
>>740216645I liked her story because of how it painted a bigger picture on how both the Oldest House and FBC actually function, she was a perfect plot vehicle largely because she didn't have any formal training and just sort of got stuck in a thread of fate that was largely more meant for her brother. Now were getting Resonant and it seems that Dylan's role as P6 is a logical continuation to that specific story.
>>740216645>surely there are mods that replace her model by now>go to nexusmodsliterally nothing>go to ayakamods>a fucking raw model and not a mod>even then she still looks like an ugly bitch from a WEG
Because it has a stupidly small fanbase
>>740218512man that Jesse on the right just aint it
>>740217834Chronologically, Alan Wake 1 happens. Then alan dissapears, and the Department of control investigates his dissapearance and finds his shit. Wake actually talks to Jessie, but he does it in the third person as if it's in his book. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oy95_UX-SN4Particularly the last hotline 8 mins in.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPhAfQiJzTw>>740218460Logical doesn't really need to work here. I want vibes. I'm down for the ride here. I don't think this is the same company that stupidly tried to put diversity first in everything they do like they said on AW2.
>>740218512christ i forgot just how RECTANGLE her head waslook at thatyou could level a fucking wall with that head, i wanna hire her at my construction site now
>>740212348I got it for free from timmy tencent
>>740218512Damn, so it's still unplayable?
>>740212976the only thing I remember about it is that MC kind of looks like christoph waltz
>Kills himself just to aura farm from the grave
>>740212310Because it's not about culture wars ultimately, as fun as it is to laugh at these companies setting themselves up for failure again and again for no good reason. I can connect to a guy character on a deeper level, so a girl action game is way less interesting to me from the start. If they then switch to a gay, that's good but it doesn't make me feel anything because I wasn't interested in the first game. On the other hand, if you take a guy game and replace the protag with a girl, I lose the connection. That sucks.
>>740217523the narratives that span alan wake, quantum break and control are really excellent, its just that the gameplay is kinda meh. its worth it for the story
>>740212348haha this I got it for like a dollar and played it for 3 hoursgame sucked total ass
>>740219120Trench reminds me of Gene Hackman (RIP)
>>740219418i'm more into gameplay so guess i'll just watch a 50 hour video about the story instead
>>740212348it was literaly free (on psplus)
>>740218512what happened to 2B being ported to everything?
>>740212310Jesse Faden was a cool autistic MCI hated her brother for the whole game, I was hoping to kill him in the endso yeah, no, I don't care much
>>740219120I love how in hindsight even though he was tortured by his position and did get paranoid on the tail end of his career, he still decided to carry the torch forward anyway. I do find Northmoor's faith of becoming NSC-02 even crazier though. Seems like once you become a Director even death isn't an easy way out.
>>740219976I don't think Northmoor really planned for what happened to him
>>740212310No?I also wasn't interested in this since they weren't continuing Jesse's story
>>740220106I don't think honestly anyone does. It's the Board and the Oldest House that call the shots.
>>740212348They give it out for free kind of regularly on different launchers. Not a bad game either.Think they might have messed up their own profits with that though I'm not sure how all that works.
>>740217296If by design you mean how the level looks and feels then its great, you mean actual level layout and structure then no
>>740217371Past a certain point you are just spamming one attack
My favourite parts about Control were the quieter moments where you're exploring the facility itself and learning about the different altered items. Maybe those moments don't make for an exciting trailer but this Inception landscape isn't really winning me over and I doubt Remedy's ability to make a good combat system. Dylan was also the least interesting part of Control for me so I'm surprised to see him as the lead. Maybe Remedy can pull a Raiden with him. At least there's going to be more of Darling and Ahti.
>>740212384>AAAAAAAAAACKKKKK TOXIC MASCULINITY
>>740220650wrong söy product newfriend
>>740212310It's almost like this isn't actually a real issue and games shift protagonists all the time, often because the original protagonists story ended over 3 games ago. The actual problem is incompetent devs, who aren't confident they can live up to the earlier series, have to tear it down as justification. Sorry, I know you guys lose the plot every day, but I gotta at least try to keep you honest.
>>740212310Are you pretending Jesse was some engaging and interesting protagonist?
>>740220541I think they can easily combine the Manhattan exploration and make it into a similar Metroidvania style central gameplay hub as they did in Control. Obviously the scope will just be bigger, but with their setting they can do basically all kinds of absolutely wacky stuff.
>>740212381It didn't bomb. They profited from the game. Also have no clue how you saw the trailer and could think, "wow, this is radically different from previous Remedy games." We knew Dylan would be the protag for quite some time now.Actual schizo headcannon
>>740220760>t. walmart lamb eater
>>740220974lurk 7 more years
>>740221008i'm an oldfag from 2024respect you're elders
>>740217523Yes, actually. The intrigue and connections are truly intricate, mysterious, fascinating and rewarding. The rabbit hole is ever expanding and it keeps answering to the effort you put in. I think in terms of enjoyment it goes like this: Max Payne 1 > Remedy Connected Universe as a whole >>> The games in the Remedy Connected universe by themselves.Remember, no matter what anyone claims for legal or other reasons, all of it is connected.
>>740220817Name 4 other cases where it's a male lead replacing an established female lead.
I'm not sure if I've ever been so excited for a game that's a sequel to something that I was only just lukewarm on.Then again I've also learned to doubt any expectations for Remedy projects. I finally got around to AW2 earlier this year. Not a survival horror fan, and to be fair the horror elements in that game are probably not scary enough, but its still a fucking excellent game and I really should've listened to the critics over "real gamers" with that one.
>>740212348I only played it because it's on GOG.
>>740212310Where the fuck is my REAL alan wake sequel
>>740212310Control 1 was a 9hr tech demo
>>740212381I think it's more Firebreak, honestly. They assumed it would help partially in terms of the cash flow into the company outside of investments, but it did really poorly although it wasn't a particularly 'bad' game. Still the company is very deeply tied to Finnish cultural, movie and theater scene, so there are likely more than enough safety nets built around it for it to simply capsize with the exception of complete bankrupt. It's telling mostly because Remedy is one of the few companies that haven't done any lay-offs nor do they hire part-timers.
>>740212310yeah, now they can make an interesting character
>>740212976I remember being creeped out by the ringing telephone
>>740212310Different kind of gameReplace Lara Croft or Bayonetta for a man instead if you want a fair comparison
>>740212976What happens if you take one SCP wiki page, a single one of Simon Stålberg's pictures where people are floating, and brutalist office architecture, and try to make a game around it.
>>740212310I'm actually interested in this game now that the main character is a dude instead of some emotional annoying chick like the first game that I never even played.
>>740214661Contract J.A.C.K. was supposed to be multiplayer focused, wasn't it?
>>740218227I was going to pre-order it, but now I'll have to either pirate it or use a 3rd party key reseller because Remedy is now soft-owned by Sony and Sony don't make their new games available in Russia. God, I hate Sony so fucking much.
>>740217523No such thing as getting into it, they're just there. It's not marvel.
>>740218227The Darling storyline what kept me going in Control, it's Sam Lake coded story while the main story felt like hogwash.
>>740212310If this was actually balanced people wouldn't complain about it
>>740212310Remember back when troons would raid /v/ to shill that first tranny control gameI member
He probably won't be the schizophrenic fuck he was in the first game. In audio files and alan wake 2 he's more like what really he is: a guy very bad at social interactions who spent all his life trapped by glowies in office rooms and never got to grow up
>>740212310What OP actually means:>I'm afraid that the man will be better received than the woman and it proves you chuds right again
>>740223384He was channeling the Hiss and is still somehow connected to it as well. It's the reason he was so schizo in the first place. He was also pretty damn sensitive to changes surrounding it so considering the short at the end of the story trailer for Resonant, it's likely when Dylan was inaugurated into the program. It's likely why Darling did have the larger and deeper knowledge on what was about to occur and how he eventually got around to designing the HRAs and safety measures surrounding it. Both the Sister and Brother got something out of the Slide Projector, so it's likely that Dylan was the one who inherited something much more sinister and utterly fucked in comparison to Jesse, who ended up with Polaris. No wonder he likely has had a rough life up until this point.
>>740212310I will now buy your game.
>"man" replacing a "woman"
>>740219120Where are the aura pawgs? At the Goon Junction? I hear Gorbo got brutally skullmogged by Baby Corn.
>>740212976>Creepy telephone>Giant fridge fight
>>740212310Once it goes in one direction it's locked in and you can never go backFor instance of they make James Bond black, he's just going to be black from now on, because if he was white again it would be white supremacy or something
Resonant NEEDS:MORE BoardMORE Former>< You have heard Wrong/Fake News >>< The Board is A-OK/Intact >>< The Rebel Faction/Dissent is >>< Former/Fired >>< The Crisis/Purge is over >>< This is not a Matter/Worry for you >>< You can hang up now, please >Northmoor FREE/BOSS FIGHTREMEDY! GIVE ME MORE LORE AND MY MONEY IS YOURS...
One of the usp for control was the female lead. Now its play as her retarded turbo brother...yeah no thanks Control 1 was so bad, the last level alone killed the brand for me forever. That level was so fuxking shit. Same as the whole game besides the art style/graphics. The gun was so shit. The power abilities also sucked, enemies? Dogshit. Now its that activison game which had two games ripoff prototype. Remedy SuCK shit boners.
>>740212310First control was absolute dog shit. This looks fucking great.
>>740212310I'm just waiting for this shit to flop too so the finnish troons can finally slice their wrists. They've been shilling their trash here for years im so sick of them.
Remedy games are peak "Only watched a YouTuber play it" games. Desire to see it but no desire to play it. I watched every game except Max Payne 1+2, I played those.
>>740212310>that haircut
>>740213134I think I have a serious case of brain fog. I recently got into fighting games again but after a month of not playing I rebooted it and genuine forgot everything and had to relearn the basics again. The doctors straight up are telling me however that I'm making it up. How do I get this checked?
>control is related to alan wakethis makes me less interested in control nowI was almost intrigued by it but didn't buy it but now I have zero interest.Alan wake should have been a self contained game or at most 2 games. Having it spin off into an extended universe was a mistake.
>>740228643Lower your finasteride dose
>>740218074Wow, what an astonishing achievement
>>740212691I think that happened from the dog shit advertising. For whatever reason they went real hard on the "Finally a girl protag for girl gamers" angle while dropping early review copies exclusively to women. Kind of a weird stunt, definitly put me off the game for a bit.
>>740228675but I'm not balding
>>740228643maybe its food relatedtry an elimination diet
>>740228674It was always the plan lol>I am the wolf, I don't need the words, I'm beyond the words
>>740228923>elimination dietI thought this was a joke to tell me to kms but that actually sounds like something helpful.
>>740220213They'd already messed it up its sales by making it an EGS exclusive for a year. But as far as I can tell, it's managed to turn a decent profit. The real Control-related disaster they had was FBC Firebreak. Very embarrassing.
>>740216645I like her slight speech impediment and her knocked jaw. It's cute, fuck you.
>>740212310both games look like misguided shit, so....I guess I'm still Nonbuynary
>>740229154Either way, I was interested in the story of the first gameplayed another one to see it endand now that it still isn't over I just don't care anymore. Endless sequels and spin-offs are a mistake.
Everyone else itt talking about the characters and story while I'm mostly looking forward to a new Poets of the Fall musical setpiece lmao
>>740212976>SCP but it went through the HR department first
>>740217834>I don't remember (or maybe I didn't know he could) him rewriting reality.I haven't played 1 + expansion in maybe 10y, but that was the whole idea behind the whole game.Alan gets kidnapped by the presence of the lake for a week and writes a book on his command. In this story the presence write itself gaining power and escaping, but the story needs to be 'true' so it can become real(ity). Also, Alan needs to have an actual fighting chance against it.During the story, sometimes even in real time Alan changes reality with his writing.Then we can go deeper in lore and maybe guess that Alan himself is a character created by the real writer that we don't see at all, and it's guessed to be a matrioska game of Alan, Tom the diver and the actual author (because Alan Wake is a fucking pulpy name like Max Payne)In the end killing this presence it's an hard as fuck job to make "real", and wake was not enough to win alone. this author solved this problem by encapsulating everything in another layer outside of it. So you have the department of control (people with actual know how on how to deal with this kind of shit) as a final try to solve this clusterfuck. There could be some errors, so please correct me. I also haven't played wake 2 because I really liked the original entry, end even control.
Not trying to hijack the thread, but literally who asked for that Firebreak? What a stupid idea.
>>740230181>AW2 had them make 3 new songs along with everything elseObviously they're not gonna top that, but i can already picture the guitar while you blast through some part of the city or whatever.
>>740220952It took 3 years to break even and the CEO was crying recently that Alan Wake 2 should have sold more.
>>740212310Dylan is a boring gay character
>>740230752Was there any sort of self-reflection involved or was he just "we put a lot of effort into it so we're entitled to better sales"?
>>740230651>but literally who asked for that Firebreak?I'll guess Tencent or some other stockholder.
>>740230520I meant that I don't remember/knew he could do it because I've only played Control and in it, there were only vague mentions of what Wake could do, and I've interpreted it that his powers only extended to near the Lake.
>>740220151>I don't think honestly anyone does. It's the Board and the Oldest House that call the shots.https://youtu.be/KJK-dcTa_rg
The Remedyverse only exists so Sam Lake can live out his narcissistic tendnecies and appear in his own games
>>740228540He was in a coma since 2016 and woke up during a localized apocalypse. I think its okay for him to just tie it in a bun to get it out of the way instead of looking for a barber.
>>740212310This was the only interesting AAA game from SSoP. Replacing the gigajaw lady with a beaten down, puppy-dog man who looks like Jon Snow was a great design choice. The visual stuff they do with this IP is stupendous.
>>740229316>They'd already messed it up its sales by making it an EGS exclusive for a year.Oh fuck really? I thought 505 and Remedy were publishing, with Timmy Tencent only having a say on Alan Wake since he funded development
>>740230752>3 years1 year and 3 months*
>>740212310>womanHer jaw is much stronger than this guy's
>>740231395So if the rights to Max Payne would never have been sold, would we really see Max Payne in the Dark Place etc. and taking the spotlight taken by his black genius police partner or did they want a "Similar dude but not him" approach the whole time?
>>740218512>>740216645She was cuter in Quantum Break
>>740230752>CEO was crying recently that Alan Wake 2 should have sold more.source on this? I distinctly remeber Remedy being content with the money that AW2 made. EGS exclusivity is a self-imposed garbage decision.
>>740212310nobody even heard about the first game
>sequel to control>not naming it CON2ROLwhat a missed opportunity
>>740232367>2FAST2CON2ROL
>>740231624>the cope
>>740231798No, I'm quite sure he was right the first time. Are you confusing it with Alan Wake Remastered?
>>740232292it wasn't initially well received but it gradually gained popularity in part due to the steam re-release, Alan Wake tie-in expansion, EGS & XBOX + PS store giveways etc. they played the long game
>>740232367This sort of shit has never been cool. Not even Resident Evil Village, which had to be extra creative to use it.
damn, the FBC Director looks like *THAT*
>>740232615no it didn't
>>740212310I don't mind playing a dude at all, but the gameplay going from various powers, telekinesis and guns, weird psychic shit to some guy swinging a hammer around just looks very uninteresting.
>>740232723she had such a fat juicy peachy gyatt in the studio tour videos
>>740232723>2017Not anymore
>>740232446No it's true.>By the end of 2024, Alan Wake 2 sales exceeded two million units. The game hadalso recouped the development fees and marketing investments, meaning Remedystarted to accrue royalty income from the game salesIt came out in October 2023
>>740232840>no it didn'thave a look at pic relatedthe little peaks in popularity during 2020-2021 are either>DLC release>Game Pass release>PS Plus release>Steam Release>Steam Holiday Sale>AW2 annoumcement (late 2021)it wasn't massively popular but there was interest towards it, even years after the initial release
>>740233254>fat juicy peachy gyattshe never striked me as a huge ass haver>>740233280>Not anymorethat's a shame, but she doesn't look as bogged in the AW2 DLC
>>740233610it's huge. any bigger than that and she or any other woman is regarded as terminally obese by Yours Truly
>>740232840NTA, but Control has outsold all Remedy games, even Max Payne, though the latter definitely was vastly more profitable.
>>740212348Its also the perfect mid wit tourist filter. The embodiment of r/gamingAnyone who LOVES control has never played a remedy game or even prototype. Every single remedy game is exactly the same. Quantum break was better than control. American nightmare had better poets of the fall tracks in it and also didnt waste your time.
>>740233816Every Remedy game before Control played like it was made by people who only heard vague conversations about what video games are
>>740233418My apologies, I was so sure it happened late last year at the earliest, it felt so recent.
>>740233816>Anyone who LOVES control has never played a remedy game or even prototypeI like the game but recognize it's inherently flawed like all Remedy games, including Quantum Break. All of them being imperfect is part of the charm.
>>740234069not that anon but it's a miracle AW2 even broke even. It being stuck to EGS (thanks Timmy for paying for my copy) sucks for making actual money.
>>740233949Not true at all. If you were alive for alan wake 1 then played the expansion the improvement was night and day. >Faster gameplay>Reactive animation for everything>Weapons all had a use and worked>Several new enemies>They were all aggressive>Arcade mode was fucking greatControl has less weapons and enemy types than a fucking xbox live arcade title from 14 years ago
>>740232723She has great ass genetics.She should gain some weight.
>>740218512I'm still debating whether she looks better or worse in Resonant
>>740235376def worse>DEI bite + weak jaw + missing bottom row of teeth>hairline is GIGA receded
>>740235376>>740235494A better look.
>>740235618doesn't look too bad tbqh, way better than the Col. Landa lookalike
Nobody gives a shit about this franchise.
>>740235376She technically looks better than her current IRL version
Control is a game where you read, think and play, often in combination due to the game's design. Any person who has time and attention inbetween to care about the faces and if they pass their attractiveness expectations in any frame of a cutscene where you LISTEN to the conversation to follow it: stick to Teams/Zoom calls where you are a passive entity with a bad avatar lmao
>>740233816>American nightmare didnt waste your time.c'mon now
>>740237575>c'mon nownot that anon but AN was basically you replaying 3 maps for 2 hours with a few cutscenes in between
>>740212310control is a sequel to alan wake right? so your point doesn't really stand
>>740212348fpbp
>>740235618believe me or not, when I was watching the trailer, I thought its someone else. only now I see that its supposed to be jesse. like what the fuck
>>740237781That's not quite how the RCU operates. They're still distinct game series.
>>740212310> be first game> no real plot, just random nonsense> atrocious combat system
>>740217523Yes.The sad part is that only a few of their games are on GOG. No way am i giving money to Timmy or Gay Ben.
>>740238817just pirate it
>>740223227Anon, the Darling story is a part of the main storyline. You literally have the man helping you from another dimension. Pretty much everything ties to the Federal Bureau of Control
>>740238928>just pirate itI really want to support the developers of games i like. But i also really really really really hate Epic and Steam. I fucking hate it when good games get locked on shitty platforms.
>>740239392I kinda understand you because Im a big remedy fan and I think them locking alan wake 2 on epic was stupid. and yes, I know it was part of the deal and the game wouldnt be made without it but still. so I guess pirate it and send them 50 bucks on paypal
>>740239392I'm finnish, pirate the game and email me 30 bucks I'll give it to remedy promise
its supposed to be a sequel to that other shitty game i forgot?
>>740213134remember shit you dont find interesting or funshounds like you fill your brain with shit
Should I play these games?Anal wake 1 and 2? Cuntrol? Should I bother?The only games I remember playing are Max Payne 1 and 2
>>740241191alan wake was nice but too repetitivecuntrol was shitnothing else is worth playing
Remedy is a prime example of a studio that was destroyed by wokism. they lost all their good cred with alan wake 2.
>>740241191my personal ranking (so its something that cant be debated)alan wake 1 - fairly standard horror shooter, solid 7/10alan wake 2 - very shitty resident evil remake clone. atmosphere is still great but god damn I hated every single fightcontrol - goat environment, bad shooting but imho best of the three overall
>>740241552Having Saga be black was the least of AW2's issues.
>>740212356Would be cool as a NG+ unlockable. I feel like Jesse's flight would trivialize the level design, but if it's just an unlock for fun, who cares.
>>740215114This one is directed by the Control 1 director, he didn't work on Alan Wake 2. So I have faith.
any game that replaces the main character its shitthe only exception to this is resident evil because the franchise started with dual protagonisttoo bad the franchise turned to shit anyway
>>740241191i like them all but that's just me apparently
>>740212310Why is every game coming out in September? Why don't companies pick months where a bunch of other games aren't releasing? Literally nothing comes out in July or August and I dont understand why
>>740241681I'm convinced that affected her writing in the wake of it, so I must disagree.
yeah control was given away for free multiple timesnobody wants it or plays it or thinks its worth any amount of moneyive had it for free for years and havent touched it once, its trash
>>740241681It's honestly hilarious how you retards can never spot the link, you go "it's completely seperate!" every single time and then scratch your heads wondering why the writing is shit and the game sucks.
>>740218227Will he actually have an in-game character model this time?
>>740212310The last protag was a man too though?
>>740212310I thought the first game was also had a male protag?
Am I the only one who actually like the gameplay of Control?It wasn't the best thing ever, but switching between your gun and powers was kinda fun.
>>740241552>>740241681it didn't help but replacing an established character with a nog was the first sign of shit going poorlythe fact that it had a story that dragged longer than it should have, boring repetitive combat, and 'investigations' where you basically got told exactly where to go was also lame
>>740242603No, I also like it.
>>740242176>affected her writing in the wake of ithehe
>>740242628>replacingYou still get to play as Alan. He is half of the story.
>>740242603Yeah I also liked it, I actually didn't give a shit about the story or lore or whatever, just wanted a game where you had teleknesis because that's cool to me.Wish there were more games where you had cool psionic powers. It's this, prey and mindgate and that's kinda it.
>>740242603Nah i don't really get talking about Control's gameplay like it's the worst thing ever. Even if someone really doesn't like it, i've played some really shitty TPS games which don't even come close to the hate Control's gameplay seems to get sometimes.
>>740242709I was talking about Saga
>>740212381Still waiting on AW2 to hit Steam.
>>740241681>was the least of AW2's issues.>I see you have been waiting patiently and loyally for 10 years to see Alan return. >Here's a black woman who will teach you about white privilege fuck off. Remedy deserves their decline.
>>740212310I genuinely am moderately interested in this game just because the main character isn't a fucking abomination like in the first Control. I usually never care about looks but my fucking god, what they created and called "woman" in the first one was just too far.
>>740212310God forbid people want to play as the God of War in a series called God of War, which has always has Kratos as the main protagonist. Don’t you think that’s a bit more different than a relatively new IP deciding to change up the protagonist and gameplay for the sequel?
>>740212976Dr Darling is kino
>>740243882They worked really hard worming their way into gaming companies with succesful IPs. Can't you let them enjoy their parasitic fruits?
>>740217523Yeah, the games are good. You'll have people on here whinging about it because it's /v/ but they're alright for the price points they go on sale for.
>>740212310Quantum break had a male protagonist.
>>740242949>Replace with this with a boon just because Floyd happened>Almost go brokeI like to think Sam is not retarded but he is not making it easy
Quantum Break had a weak combat system and once you get all your powers the game is pretty much over but the one thing that cannot be denied is the solid time travel story you unravel And let's not forget the high quality mocap achieved with Microsoft's money
Already pre-ordered because of how mad the trannies on retardera are. Also Remedy are my favorite devs anyway
>>740212310It's fine when it makes some kind of sense, like in Control's case, and isn't done to appeal to some group's agenda.>>740212356Maybe. It depends on if Dylan's Service Pistol Excalibur stick is actually Excalibur, or something else; because if he's the Director, then what is Jesse now?
>>740217523>Alan wake 1no>American nightmareyes>Quantum breakyes>Controlno unless its $1>Alan wake 2no>Control 2lol LAMO
>>740233816Max Payne was the only game of theirs I enjoyed with its good action gameplay, the charming character models and amusing dialogue. Couldn't get into the sequel because it changed things up for the worse and detrimentally chose a more serious tone. Alan Wake was one of the most boring games I had ever played, what a fucking slog, I can't image how someone would have the patience for the dlc. Don't see any reason to try their other games. Feels like Remedy are trying too hard to be "deep" and artsy, sort of like Kojima, but forgetting loosen up and make their games fun.
>>740245658Kill yourself
>>740245056>Quantum breakGood bait
>>740245719Not until you make a good game, Sam
>>740245056honest question, why do people love american nightmare so much? it was painfully boring and repetitive in a bad way
>>740221205Jokes on you, I love 9-hour tech demos.
>>740245957i would say all their games are repetitive
>>740244683In retrospect it had the same problem Control had, not enough enemy variety to make the use of all your powers challenging and fun.
>>740241552>>740241681genuinely I think Saga being black made them write her as overly boring. She's actually kind of uninteresting but at the same time is kind of overpowered and having too much of a unique borderline marysue bloodline
>>740243026Same. I have the first and American nightmare, I'm not breaking up my set by having 2 on epic
>>740245957https://youtu.be/Yk51xuyNh5k?si=F_dy37wsdK51JTeugamers will see this and say "hell yeah"
>>740242603nah, it was way too floaty, the gun had mostly no impact and the main way to deal good damage is to spam telekinesis which grabs random rocks and chairs from the terrain to throw at your enemiesthe scp theme was better than the actual gamealan wake 1 actually felt pretty good so i am disappointed that both quantum break and control couldnt match or surpass that gamei have no hopes for this game after alan woke 2
>>740247268Man I kinda forgot just how "Xbox 360" this entire game feels just by looking at it.
>>740212310>woman replacing a manDowngrade>man replacing a womanUpgradeSimple as
>>740246027based
>cute woman replacing a manUpgrade>man replacing a cute womanSidegrade>man replacing an uggo "woman"UpgradeGuess which is true for Control (((Resonant)))I still won't play it tho
>>740247584I like AW because of Mr Scratch using Alan's identity to become a serial killer for the lulz
>>740244683>high quality mocaphttps://youtu.be/DR61-KnJtKk?si=nK_KnqpKkCurPtsZ
>>740248010It was an interesting interpretation of how the Dark Place stuff works that I think they threw away for AW2. Or maybe I'm just misremembering how exactly they went about initiating the plot of "Some bumfuck nowhere town gets hit with a splash of the Dark Presence which allows Wake to go back to the 'real world' for a little while."
Didn't quantum break require watching 10hrs of TV tie-in?
>>740217523>>740219452You'd be better of playing Max Payne 1 and 2 if you want a Remedy game with good gameplay.
>>740248324well it was in the game but you could skip it entirelyit didnt really add anything, except it was funny watching CIA agent controlling time
>>740242603It's serviceable but it's not good enough that I would actually want to do the extra repeatable missions purely for the love of the game.I appreciate that they didn't tie the powers to a mana resource or something (like in Dishonored), so you can spam everything as much as you want, although of course there's cooldowns. The gun is decent but it's not something I really care about when I can just rip off a vending machine and throw it hard.
>>740244018No
>>740248324Not really, as the other guy said, you could just press "skip" and continue with the game I find the acting in the TV show kinda cringe but the idea was sort of novel and, if done properly, could've left a lasting impression Ultimately, Quantum Break was more of a Remedy experiment done with Microsoft's fuck you money
The real problem with Alan Wake 2 was the lack of boss fights where you fight bulldozers possessed by ghosts.
>>740250879what do you mean? now you get retarded boss fights with JUMPSCARES every 5 seconds. so much better *wink wink*
>>740247268looks like a cutscene from saints row 2
>>740212310You are never convincing me that was a woman
>>740212310Female protagonists are objectively worse than males.>male protagMale players relate. Female players goon if sexy.>female protagFemale players relate (if not too sexy). Male goon (if sexy enough).See? It's objectively worse. That's why female protag games always underperform.
>>740212310I'd rather they stuck with Jesse, but this isn't Control 1 or Alan Wake 2 where Epic is footing the bill; Remedy has to pay for development and needs to worry about getting sales. They need to start course-correcting and attracting an audience for release, not three years down the line.
>>740232030I would rather not imagine that. Alex Casey didn't feel completely like Max Payne anyway. Too much "woe is me" in some of his monolgues. Max was always a depressed mess but not quite self pitying.
>>740213109In my experience the best way to kill them was tossing whatever was in the room at them. It even worked on bosses.
>>740212310>game with female leads flops so devs try to safe face and get people back with a male protagonistvs>game series is super popular and beloved. woke devs get still replace white male progaonist because they hate white men and want to demoralise them and push even more of the same feminist proganda that has destroyed the westyou have to be absolutely retarded to consider these things the same.besdies you have to be even a bigger retard if you think this game is going to be his story. his ugly giant chin sister is going to be in the game and be depicted as more powerful and more competent then him. she is also probably going to constantly rescue and order him around.also there is a 50% chance that you are going to end up playing as her for part of the game anyway.
I have Control still sitting in my library for a while from one of those 1 bongbuck sales. Convince me to play or not play it. How does it compare to AW1 which was y last remedy game?
>>740212310well one of those is subversive and the other isn't. so it makes sense that one would incite outrage from normal people and the other wouldn't.you're not pretending not to understand that, are you?
>>740259004try the first hour and see for yourself. it starts slow but if you dont like it the second hour, its probably not for you
>>740259004Play it till you get the levitation ability, if you don't like it by then, uninstall
>>740259004Imagine a shooting game with bad shooting, a platformer with bad movement. I saw this game done better on the PS2 and it was called Psi-Ops.
>>740256629Control didn't flop though.
>>740259253>>740259769>>740259910I'll try it soon now that my backlog is thinning but it doesn't sound too enticing.
>>740260224It's not a bad game but the combat could've been better and I believe that's precisely what they're trying to fix with Control 2
what are some other games where the villain becomes the protagonist in the sequel?
>>740220952It took years to break even. It bombed.
>>740260224The dlc is a scam and the main story is retarded. Thats the last caution i have.
>>740260794Imagine bombing after taking the Epic Games exclusive check.
>>740260456I havent played Control in a long time but was Dylan really the "villain?" He was basically trying to overthrow the Board & GTFO because they wanted him as the new director, but was corrupted by the Hiss
>>740212310>man skipping Alan Wake 2 and Control 2B^)
>>740261041Their own fault. They clearly could have done better if the game was about Alan wake and not some random negress single mother.Shit at that point id even buy it when it leaves epic because epic is a scam but now im not going to.And I loved Alan wake 1 and even kind of liked Control.
>>740212976>simple piss easy combat with a lot of bloated unnecessary mechanics>kino janitor-god character>kino fmvs>boring backtracking through completely visually unchanging environments>entirety of the game shares same bland dismal aesthetic except for like one partIt's a much more interesting game to think about than to play. AW2 was a masterpiece in comparison.
>>740259004The core game is decent I mostly liked the scp before scp was just faggot tumble satellites vibe.Be aware its fairly woke. Female character aside every white male is either evil, retarded, dead or MIA and are replaced by shit skins and women.No male who isnt a Spanish guy security guard does well in control.Also the load times are atrocious. Without an ssd
>>740261243The Hiss is the villain yes, but he willingly let himself get possessed by the hiss and became a receiver for it.
>>740212310Both are bad. I would not want to play as a non-Samus character in Metroid and I hated the 9S segments in Automata. Thankfully devs are usually smart enough to avoid this unlike the former where they get media recognition and brownie points.
>>740212381AW2 didn't bomb, they still made a profit regardless.Firebreak is what REALLY spooked them.
>>740261256I meant Control was also an epic exclusive.
>>740241680>alan wake 2 - very shitty resident evil remake clone. atmosphere is still great but god damn I hated every single fightt did feel very much like RE at times but the combat wasn't too bad compared to AW1
>>740261256>not some random negress single mother.she's not a single mother, and not that bad of a secondary protagonist TBQH
>>740264041>she's not a single motherhold my flashlight
So genuinely what the fuck did that one guy mean by Dylan not being human? Is he just being a bitch or did The Board change him when he gets Excalibur?
>>740264313>Be Alan>Can't resist butting into every other Remedy game via the Dark Place because he's a chud>Sees Saga Anderson fucking around with the IRL Alex Casey (a guy who Alan probably gave life to via Dark Place magic)>Decides to use her as a tool to help himself escape his magic shadow prison>Decides to put her in a horror story to do it>Decides to use magic shadow ghosts to kill her daughter to give her a reason to help him while he's at it>Still needs a finishing touch>...>Race swaps her in real life with his magic typewriter>NOW he can kill her daughter without feeling bad about itWhat did he mean by this.
>>740212348
>>740264756>So genuinely what the fuck did that one guy mean by Dylan not being human?my guess would be alien hiss is still a part of him, and probably will pop out from time to time, mr.scratch style
>>740267123Maybe, but would that make Jesse not human either? Seems the game is doing something relating to redemption or whatever along with Dylan even still musing over if he should get revenge on the FBC.
>>740264756For some reason, most Control players miss Dylan and Jesse not actually being siblings, but instead the same child from different dimensions. That guy might have access to documents related to the Ordinary AWE, in which case, he might assume Dylan is the one from the other dimension. Everything else that came out of the Projector was a monster; why not Dylan?
>>740267471>Dylan and Jesse not actually being siblingsLiterally what actually supports this outside of Dylan's ramblings that could easily just be taken as him musing over how easily it could have been Jesse in his position and vice versa back in Ordinary?
>>740267471People ignored it because it sounds like a red herring. Another interpretation was Dylan and Jessie being one person, split in two.
>>740267471Why would Jesse search obsessively for an alternative version of herself she just met during AWE and keep referring to it as her little brother
>>740212310>>740212348If this flops they will be financially ruined.
>>740270336Remedy has been around since 1995, I doubt it
>>740212310I don't trust the company
>>740271661Their games have insane budgets and they don't make there money back fast or at all sometimes
>>740273120insanely mid budgets
>>740273120They do make their money back and they are a Finnish company at the end of the day
