>we need a good end game gun>say no more
>>740217812>slow projectile speed>20 round mag>inaccurate as fuck>heavy meme ammoIt's shit, even in stalker
>We need a gun for the evil commander
>>740217812>we need a gun to give to our special forces
>>740218104More like special needs forces
>>740218104
We need a gun that makes jannies seethe>>740217812>We need a gun that jams after a single mag>A gun that wont hit the side of a barn at 200 meters if your zero is off just a little>A gun that you have to lead a target by 10 meters if he strafes just a little at 50 metersIts actually fucking garbage, the only special thing ive yet to see in a game is how silent it isEven in Tarkov all the gun sound effects are normalized and the gun can be heard from as far as a supressed AK can (without subsonic rounds even)
>>740218256>the only special thing ive yet to see in a game is how silent it isAren't all suppressed guns still loud as fuck at the end of the day
>we need a gun
>>740219261Welrod might be most quiet, but that's an outlier
We all know the desert eagle is the ultimate chad gun
>>740219261ASVAL barrel is a supressor in itself
>>740219442deagle is forbidden jewish technology
>we need a gun for gun nerds
>>740219261Yeah, but suppression makes it also less recognizable as a gunshot, it's still something like 110 dB at least.
>>740219261it depends on the gun and the ammo. if you are shooting supersonic ammo you still hear the sonic boom from the bullet which is loud as hell. if you are shooting subsonic ammo like the op gun it's only as loud as clapping your hands. if you have a gun that doesn't have any parts move when you shoot it's fart quiet.
>>740219519>barrelIt's not a barrel, it's only a supressor
>>740218104France should nuke Germany if they'll ever attempt to do something like that
What about the Groza that use the same ammo?
>>740217812>Hans, zey need a gun
>we need the ultimate gun
>>740222329I'd unironically use this gun, provided it's in a game where realistic guns aren't a thing anyway.
>>740222246G3 my beloved
>>740222329>the longer you look at it the worse it becomes
>>740219746>>740217812I will never understand why spetnaz adopted that piece of shit. Horrible ballistics, then they add these huge ass scopes on a gun that struggles with bullet drop
>>740222661That's how they get away with it. You start listing the problems then you give up on life and just collapse.
>>740222679I don't know but they liked it enough to make a modernized version of it.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SR-3_Vikhr
>>740222679It's a high power silenced pistol that could maybe probably hopefully pen level 3 plate in a weird form-factor.>huge ass scopesIt's 1 or 4x, the size is a production issue.
>>740218104oh my goodness
>>740223097Pistols don't shoot past 100 meters, it's just gonna get stopped by a huge ass tree or a wall
>>740222246I love battle rifles so muchThis and FAL are my raifus
>>740218159>>740220948>>740223169You are not ready for this.
>>740223230And Val is supposed to be used in engagements within 100m.
>>740223230These weapons and the round they fire were designed specifically for close-range urban operation where you need to shoot some Chechen with a stolen bulletproof vest.
>>740223581Kinda gay to put a scope or a glass sight on it, even if it's a 1x it still limits your FOV
>>740222679It's good for building to building combat + light and the military has better ammo but generally it turned into a police weapon, Russian military doesn't feel good about anything smaller than .338 lapua
>>740222774Nah. It doesn't take long before you just learn to stop worrying and just enjoy the bomb
>>740222661The only thing really wrong with it is the revolver part, mostly ejection. Even scopes are whatever - those aren't integral and you could take them off and mount an offset one
>>740223436>chinks no longer employ the QBZs anymore>cucked out for some ARslopGrim
>>740219746>such a unicorn gun that even it's airsoft replicas are inaccurate and assfml
>>740224353asian man baby hands do not have the grip strength to pull the trigger of bullpups
>>740218010Whenever I see this type of gun in games I think>we need a gun which has only 5 bullets to find in the whole game
>>740223803No it's not, it's horrible for building to building stuff. It has literally zero penetration, I'd rather clear a building with a M14 than that fucking thing
>>740225337>>740222679>>740225337Brandon's dogshit incompetent "review" keeps haunting 9x39 cartridge to this day