Just bought this on steam. what am I in for? I know /ourguy/ Kevin Jordan from the vanilla wow team is working on it so I assume it might be decent at least.
>>740219027I remember hearing the devs saying that they want the game to be a forever game with dailies and events every couple of weeks which is a massive red flag
>they still have the mobile tier "wait for thing to happen" mechanics>even mention it in the 1.0 trailer like it's a good thingyieks
>>740219027woke girlboss slop
it's visually incredible but did they finally fix the gear being completely RNG slop with no real way of crafting, so you have to grind dailies for a month to get a decent gear setup
>>740219143do you guys have any criticism beyond the "woke slop" slop ?
>>740219093>>740219201Dailies? I thought this was supposed to be a souls slop that you beat in 20-30 hours and be done with
>>740219027it's actually pretty good anon, ignore the brain dead "critics" of people that are clearly never played the game.
>>740219464core part of the game is upgrading your town buildings/NPCs and dailies/weeklies, it has many MMO features for no reason
>>740219027Its in early acces why would you buy it retard?
>>740219027100% DEATHS FROM FALLING; THE GAME
>>740219027I'm non buynary
>>740219605I saw it on a massive discount and I got nothing else to play, also the 1.0 release is very close
>>740219464Nah you have to upgrade the main hub town to progress each 1st tier makes you wait 1 hour for every building then next tier is 4 hours i think they will add more tiers too
>>740219027A really good game, despite being EA and 20+ hours of gameplay. That being said the game will be out in october, so my suggestion is experiment with some builds now
>>740219590>for no reasonBecause they were working for those kikes at Private Division, who wanted it to be a live service thing. Private Division NO LONGER EXISTS, and Moon managed to extract themselves from the imploding mess. They have cut all the time gating down to what is likely the hardcoded minimum, about 10 seconds.
>>740219670>also the 1.0 release is very closesure it is
>>740219680what's this mobile game shit that's even worse than dailies
>>740219291It's not even real. Just retards spouting nonsense>>740219201You get some items which allow you to roll every effect of an weapon. There is still RNG involved but it's less egregious.
>>740219760He's feeding you outdated info.
>>740219464It is. You can completely skip the weekly/dailies. Even the city upgrades can be skipped.
>>740219748see >>740190762
>>740219792bullshit its still in the game
>>740219201>the gear being completely RNG slopI don't understand why is this an issue here meanwhile you guys praise the fuck out of these systems in diablo and poe
>>740219806>can skip yupgradeslol ok gl crafting your gear!
>>740219879You get strong gear from that one merchant you save, and you can also get tem or buy them doing crucible runs.
>>740219836>makes you wait 1 hour for every building then next tier is 4 hoursIt's literally ten seconds.
>>740219939>you can get loot from end gameyes thats great but what about before end game
>>740219027It's just a mishmash of the worst mechanics in video game history. I remember there being some drama too.Not even worth pirating unless you're extremely retarded and autistic.
>>740219980It's not end game though. You unlock the crucible fair early on, and you can do runs and get that coin-head creature to sell you stuff after you reach the 5th room.
>>740219027I finished it december during christmas.You get dark souls combat with top down perspective + lots of optional mmo shit like daily updating quests and gathering materials to upgrade your town.You can finish the game without giving a fuck about the town, what i did is exploit to upgrade town to max just to see what it gives, benefits are more recipes at blacksmith etc and new pathways to get faster to some npcs.Oh and they have a lvl system with all zones having their own lvl range - if you below you deal less damage, if you overlvl you deal bonus damage. So its kinda outobalancing where the game gets easier the longer you stay in a zoneAnd after all that shit comes an endless challenge mode, i think thats what you really supposed to upgrade the city for because only this way does the upgrade gating make sense.Since the story content is finished faster than maxing out city.tldr game was 8/10 for me when i played it decmostly good with some optional shit i dont like
>>740219027it supposedly trying to create a new genre by mixing darksouls combat with diablo systems and itemizations with added mmo slop chores like cutting down trees and gathering herbs and materials
Combat is great. Aesthetics are amazing. Sound design is brilliant. Diverse and viable playstyle options (every weapon plays different, not just template dagger move set, but every dagger has a different move set). Exploration encouraged and enjoyable.Grinding resources can be tedious, I recommend mining every node and chopping every tree that you see. Too many resources required for build tinkering and way too many required for upgrading weapons.Difficulty spikes in the crucible. Goes from pretty easy to super hard at last boss (which takes 15-30 mins to reach). Phase 1 is hard enough, phase 2 borderline impossible. The reason why is they messed up build potential, and a person with perfect enchants just 1 shots everything while healing to full after every attack; meanwhile me playing normally will have to hit it 80 odd times while I die in 2 hits. Sort of okay with this as its optional and designed for roguelite types and I'm not close to being fully geared; BUT it would be better if it built up to it better. So room 7, 8 and 9 could be more challenging to justify the insane jump at room 10.In the main game, bosses feel great. You will mostly die to falling off cliffs.Woke aspects undesirable but kept at acceptable levels. In character creation its body types and they avoid pronouns (your character is referred to by their 'race', which is known for not speaking). There's like one black guy who is an advisor to the chief. Chief's daughter is a bit of a girlboss but she gets put in her place repeatedly (at least so far in the story) and so she comes off as more of an idealistic yet naive brat as opposed to a typical 'can do no wrong' girlboss. Inquisitor woman is so well voice acted, she is just so easy to hate; top marks for her from me.I recommmend it. Its not perfect but it is very good.
>>740219027>I know /ourguy/ Kevin Jordan from the vanilla wow team is working on it so I assume it might be decent at least.this probably explains the shitty mmo lite systems
The amount of misinformation around this game almost feels targeted. >>740219027OP playing it now probably isn't worth it, unless you just wanted to see what the fuss is about. It's going to have a massive class overhaul for 1.0, although I imagine they might put the price up for launch, so maybe it was better to get it now.
>>740220098This.Played with my friends, but one of us is a NEET.He found the crucible and started doing runs of that since he didn't want to progress the story without us.Sure enough, he didn't see anything new in the story, but the next time we all got on he was decked the fuck out and had already bought a house.We all wanted to catch up to him so he wouldn't be deleting everything while we watched, so our next session was just repeated crucible runs to gear everyone else out.Then we managed to clear the whole thing once and realized the final boss drops unique shit with bullshit effects on it, so then we kept farming it for the fancy gear.All those runs were gradually leveling us up, and the crucible scales, so the new stuff dropping would eventually outstrip the old stuff we already got from there, so we'd keep farming it.After like two weeks of this shit, we burned out on the crucible and decided to finally get back to the story, which had become utterly redundant for us.Nothing we could make compared to our crucible shit, the enemies fucking melted, it was basically minecraft at that point.TL;DR The crucible will make the entire rest of the game short of the story redundant if you fuck with it asap.It really should be locked to post game or something.
>>740221208Crucible only gives like 1xp per enemy, atleast from what I remember. I don't think crucible, just like how pestilence outbreaks got moved, will be available early.
>>740221280the XP is failry limited but you get good loot which you can sell, which is what the other anon was mentioning. >>740221208My biggest gripe with the crucible runs in MP is that if a team member dies, they're kicked out. That makes it borderline worthless in MP even though you can grind in SP.
>>740221280It wasn't super high, but you can get to it so early that it was clearly enough when our friend showed up to the second session like 4-6 levels above everyone.This was also months ago, so they may have adjusted it since then.
>>740220914>wait til it gets bettermany early access games get worse because of things like devs discover avg player is stupid and dumb the game down or players complain about game too short and they add grind.You can only say in hindsight which patch version was the best. WoW is still the best example of old > newest xpac.
>>740221280The uniques from the last boss are insane. I got the magic wand and tower shield and basically made a walking nuke character
>>740219027Their was a recent free-to-play weekend on Steam, so I tried it out. It is kind of like Diablo, but with a very generic edgy grimdark setting and a very large focus on multiplayer. I got bored after 30 minutes. If you are a huge fan of Diablo/Path of Exile and like RNG gear, then try it out, I guess. Otherwise I wouldn't bother.
I played it for 45 hrs with my gf in co-op before we ran out of content. Once you beat the game and you only have weekly/daily quests and the crucible the fun is basically over. Until then it's really good game though.
>>740219027It's good, though I don't know why you wouldn't wait for the 1.0 release, sounds like a bullshit thread.
>>740222972Wonder what their vision for 100s hours of replayability end up being. The room with the crucible as 5 other offering bowls but that plan might've changed. Those have been in the game since launch but never did anything, always assumed it would be like T1 maps on the bottom and harder/longer maps and bosses the further up you go. Cause Crucible rooms are fucking tiny and there is like 8 layouts maybe
>>740222947>diabloit has dodge and parry and a stamina system. Thats not diablo, its fucking dark souls
>>740219871Anon do you think the same kinds of people play both games?
>>740223162He said kind of like Diablo, which is true since the game is designed as a narrative driven ARPG but with souls combat.
>>740219027>Just bought this on steam. what am I in for?Accepting a privacy policy in which they outright state they'll sell your personal data even though it's not supposed to be a f2p scam game.
>>740222972This. My gameplay got slightly extended by the unique gear you get from the crucible giving me new ideas for builds. But you can power level the fuck out of characters because there isn't a real downside to using gear that you aren't high enough level for, it scales pretty linearly down. You can also keep playing in the high level world of your main with low level characters and get insane xp. I put my low levels in heavy armor and used the OP shoulder bash to knock guys off ledges.
>>740219027The Chris Wilson interview with the lead dev made him seem like an absolute nutter
>>740224148>there isn't a real downside to using gear that you aren't high enough level for,What now? Pretty sure there is a big difference in the damage you make
>>740223659these games are 5min story followed by 2 hours of combat. The important part is what you do for 99% of the time which is combat.
>>740224148I really like the shoulder tackle, its crazy that years of this formula it takes until now for someone to give fat rolling a useful ability to counter being a fat fuck
>>740219027>Kevin Jordan working on itInteresting, didn't know about that. I listened to some of his mmo talks and thought him kinda cynical about development, so I stopped watching, but he was dead on with asses of creation, a long time before the cracks started to show, so I feel obliged to give him more credit.I already bought the game some time ago, I think during a sale, but I'm going to wait for 1.0 before playing.
>>740225329Apparently he's been on the team since 2023https://youtu.be/pPlbIcpTO4E?si=0hIruQb0dZCAtIfk
>>740219680>artificial time limit on upgradesPlease tell me you’re joking that is the dumbest shit I’ve ever heard
>>740226010This whole game is a hilarious clusterfuck of random systems poorly slapped together combined with lmao zero dev progress because dumb negroes keep remaking and rebalancing same thing over and over again.
>>740226010>>740219680>>740219760>>740219979Yeah they changed that ages ago at this point. Hell the resource amount is less than before, the tool usage is better than before.
>>740226010It makes sense if you want to keep people coming back, but the community hated it so they removed it.
>>740219291if a story is woke its just aint fun to play>>740219767>every white male character is weak, evil or stupid>every confident, tough or smart character is female or black>not wokeok retard
>>740226395>imagine lying on the internet
