>just stop being a cringey loner, study, work out, and spend time with people like social links and you'll become a chad Is it really that easy?
no
>>740232445It's easier the younger you are.
>>740232445It's a video game
>>740232445if you're attractive, yes
>>740232445Yes.It is that simple.I would know because I basically did that and my entire social standing turned around completely.
>>740232445it is yeahand you can still play video games while doing all that
>>740232585And?
>>740232445Narukami is no chad, he has a weird haircut and is too quiet for no real apparent reason. Joker though? Joker is above the law, is a legitimate leader, and only stays quiet because he's that guy. Joker is in fact the chad and you should take notes on what he does.
>>740232445>cringey lonerNo. Forcing yourself to hang with people won't make you happy. Also you'll have to get different hobbies because you don't go out to play videogames>study, work outDoable.>>740232727>>740232810Okay, then. Where did you go to meet and hang with strangers?
No, because you still have to communicate with people and if you have genuine autism or some other form of mental illness to the point you will never understand social interaction it's pretty much impossible.
>>740232445Your parents are supposed to start you in all that stuff when you are a little kid. This way, once you are older, it's a natural part of life. Something that you just do without really thinking. The problem is parents are often incompetent retards who dont properly bring their kids up. Or they just never cared about you. It sucks but you can turn it around if you aren't a big pussy and haven't waited too long.
>>740232919>Narukami is no chad
>>740233237>Drunk>Drunk>Disgusted
>>740232445no, it's actually boiled down to whom you're born to, where you're born, and when you were born. This game was made by liberals that buy into the delusion of blank slate man. You are who you are and forcing yourself to be lobotomized in favor of fitting in is the gayest shit imaginable. Adachi had no choice earlier on in his life and became who he was because of it. Pretending like things will work out if you try is faggot cope.
>>740232919Joker and Tony Soprano, what DON'T they have in common?
>>740232946>Okay, then. Where did you go to meet and hang with strangers?Didn't really try to go anywhere. Just got a job and people at work would invite me places. The places they would invite me to is where I would meet people and make friends. It snowballs from there.
I sorta like Persona 4 as a time capsule of what the world used to be like before smartphones and social media.
>>740232445>just stop being a cringey lonerNo. You do need to stop feeling insecure about it though.>study, work outUnironically yes. Learning things and maintaining you're health is the bare minimum a human bean should be able to do.>and spend time with people like social linksThis is difficult because social links are obviously gameified and do not represent real life accurately. But at the very least you should have one or two people in real life you interact with regularly.>and you'll become a chad If by "chad" you mean "human" then yes.
>>740232946>No. Forcing yourself to hang with people won't make you happy.Bullshit. It has made me happy. We are social animals. Sure it's not a guaranteed fix, but literally nothing is.
My biggest problem with Persona social links is how they reward telling people what they want to hear rather than what they need to hear. That's not what friendship is about.
>>740232445>building a respectable self>gaining self respect>getting to know other people and perspectivesNah, girls only go for guys that complain about high school sims online
Studying hasn't been a guarantee of career success for quite a while now. Degrees don't mean anything in current year.
everyone hates me
>>740232445No because it isn't guaranteed.You can have great goals and work earnestly in achieving them, be the best, and still get snubbed and shipped off to the sticks.
>>740234267I don't hate you.
>>740232445If you have a normal upbringing its possible to go from weird loner to Chadyou just need to be mtn at minimun and experience teenage love with your looksmatch or above.experiencing stone cold true love naturally makes you more confident and socially adjusted since that in itself puts you above most of your peersi was a fucking autist retard from kindergarden to the last 3 years of high school, unitonically you only need a woman that loves you and is hot, the rest falls in its place eventually
>>740236274that's great but that only works if you're an autist-lite. For a lot of people they're unlovable and will die that way.
I never had to try any of this shit to be who I am. I was born smart so I did well in school without even trying, now I have a good job and a high pay. I was born attractive and therefore I always had friends and gfs without doing shit, people just like me for no reason and gather around me. So I don't know about self improvement, what I actually do is put effort in things I like and the rewards are amazing.
>>740232445People have adopted an attitude of "nobody owes you anything" whenever it's inconvenient for you and convenient for them, so no not really.They destroy basic social contracts so even self-motivated people starting with nothing and making the efforts feel more and more like Sisyphus until their soul withers away.Study so you can watch the institutions laugh at you pissing your money away without even getting you an internship?Work out so you can do more gruntwork, since you happen to be more fit?Spend time with people who detest you and resent your aid?I can't think of a more abominable existence. If you're in the shit these days you may as well just embrace it instead of getting worked over by people that don't care if you die pushing that boulder.
>>740236770You're on /v/Stop larping
>>740237072Yeah I'm actually just trying to demoralize you, that was all a lie.
>>740233489Grats but this doesn't work if your work is pretty isolated or other people at work are also loners.>>740233638How did you force yourself to hang with people? There's a lot detail you skipped over. Most normies bore me to death or I simply have nothing genuine to add to the conversation and it becomes forced small talk to keep the conversation going. This is what I mean by "forcing"
>>740237190Ragebait into the convo but don’t be so contrarian about it. It’s too chuddy. Instigating is fun.
>>740234267I am undecided in hating you.
>>740234267I don't even know who you are
Being educated and fit while pursuing goals will establish a base level of respect or desirability in all of your social interactions. Spending time around people and actively interacting with them will help to reduce awkwardness and sperg tendencies.So unironically yes.
>>740232445The hard part is doing it every day, without videogame elements giving you constant dopamine hits and quick rewards.
>>740232445yes but you need to do this when youre young. playing persona after youre done with school is a cruel experience, showing you how your life could have been if you played it a few years earlier
>>740238339They will never love you, you are a temporary fleeting value proposition in constant competition against everyone else and you will fall apart.
>>740232445i got an insane glowup and became a chadlite for my last school year, was also autisticly into self development and shit, was the most popular guy in the class and it was living hell, i had more fun sitting with the nerds than being "popular" just for everyone to forget about everyone else in the class the second the schoolyear ended. trying to do irl social links with normies is fucking torture, my most fond memories of that time are me being alone and playing vidya
>>740232445socialising in these games is only fun because you work towards a common goal. without that its a massive waste of tiem
>>740232445I unironically started organizing my weekly activities after playing these games and now I'm more productive and active.Not saying they're always right, but at least they're speaking from a honest perspective.
>>740238735Most of the people you meet in life will be nothing more than background characters to you. So yes, you will be a background character to most of them. You only put effort into nurturing relationships with a select few people for a healthy life.
>>740232946>Okay, then. Where did you go to meet and hang with strangers?just do anything nigga, see what do you like and try to find people doing the same shit or shit that you might find somewhat interestingbeats staying at home all day playing videa and beating your meat, which is also cool but not all day every dayand no this isn't "lol just b urself :)" advice, fagI noticed some boomer film group by pure chance on some coworker fb or ig or whatever the fuck they were using (I don't even use social media myself), now we meet every other week to watch shitty old moviesjoined nihongo classes some years ago, met people there and we hangout sometimes outside of classpubs/bars usually run language exchange over here, so sometimes I sign up to practice my english, but I'm not native anglo so this might be easier for me>>740234267I hate you and I'd still hang out
>>740233741But that's how it actually works IRL too.You tell people what they want to hear at first, and once your bonds deepen you can start smacking some sense into them if you want, but doing it earlier is gonna make you look like a stuck up cunt and nobody's gonna wanna hang for long enough to actually know you and know you're saying it for their own good.
>>740232445Only if you're tall and handsome. If you're not you'll be treated like a freak.
>>740232445Don't forget also having a magic god stand
>>740234267Maybe stop being a faggot who manually uses lower case and still uses randomized filenames in 2026
>>740232919Of the P3-P5 protags, Yu was the canonical chad even before the game started
>>740234267I have no strong feelings for you one way or the other.
>>740238610Nah, Persona's version of school is the jap romanticized version of school. Actual school sucks
>>740236274Well, I'm a wizard and I have a job, a lot of friends and outside of never scoring, I have a normal life.I enjoy my free time too much to commit to a relationship with someone that will inevitably take some of it from me.That being said, I don't hate women and I never blamed them for my wizardhood. Maybe that's why I'm not completely maladjusted, because I never turned into a weird incel and instead worked on bettering myself.
>>740234267You probably deserve it.
>>740232445Have you ever thought about things from the other direction?Lets say youre not the cool, suave protagonist. You already know youre not anyway. But lets say youre a social link with him.In Japan, your social life is tied to your Academics since you need an entrance exam to get into hs. Elsewhere it may be less. Especially if youre a burger where academics gets you in shit.Most people arent chads. Theyre average students with problems who just want to get through school and started on life. Persona represents taking and making the most of your time to form bonds with others. But those others are, a lot of the time, people with no one. Adults like Mutatsu or Eri or Hisano who still, despite everything, learn from the protagonist and make changes in their lives. Some are literal children like Maiko or Nanako. Sometimes theyre not even human like Aigis or Teddie or Marie. Most are high school because youre in high school. Youre in high school because its a Japanese game. It doesnt mean life peaked there, or that you missed out. You had the exact life you were supposed to, and now you need to pickup the pieces and move forward. But to do that you need to face yourself. Adults tend to struggle with facing themselves if they never did as a teenager, but you still can, and you can live your life even without a cool Persona or a harem of high school girls, because thats anime bullshit.They were trying to tell you all this in P3/P4.
>>740232445It's literally that easy.
>>740240657Been there done that.I was a hateful person so naturally when I ran out of people to hate in isolation the fire turned on me. They were the fire, I am the ashes. Naught but flecks carried by the wind, nothing of value remains as the pieces scatter. Part of me wonders if I should have gone postal after all, but I know amount blood would have been enough.All my roads lead to ruin. All winds of change scatter my form and memory, because I am ashes. Powerless ashes, spent fuel, without a spark or smolder. The harder one tries to grasp ashes, the more it deteriorates. The pieces cannot be picked up, and they will always be lost on even the gentlest breezes, the lightest of rain.It's funny, I can't even salvage a heart like Joan of Arc could've. There is only the pull of the void. The thing that remains when the ashes are gone. It all leads to nothing.
>>740232919Jokers family and friends abandoned him because some bald diddy accused him of something He leaves and literally starts a new life and family and doesn't for even 1 second miss home
>>740232445>Main characters call the antagonist a friendless loser and gang up on him.Kinda fucked up.
>>740237190>Grats but this doesn't work if your work is pretty isolated or other people at work are also loners.True with the first part but untrue with the next.Loners are the ones that somehow, some way, occasionally get invited to something crazy and since you're their only friend or acquaintance you're first one the list.And how would you even know? You're the one who asked.
>>740240657NO. It's not fair and I refuse to better myself now, but if I were magically transported back in time my behavior, attitude and motivations would magically be different and I would change and be cool and popular (trust)
>>740243927I remember reading a fanfic about Adachi raping Yukiko and it was hot
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>>740244321Damn she's so hot
>>740232445It's generic good advice, but it won't bear fruit for everyone.>study>work outAre worth doing for their own sake no matter who you are, but by adulthood most people have their social lives figured out and realistically won't give some random awkward autist the time of day. If it turns out you're both secretly really good at socializing and also enjoy hanging around normies, great, but the cringy losers that this sort of self-improvement advice targets are probably just going to waste time and precious effort trying to matter to people that don't want them because of fundamental differences in interest or experience. And if they have to pretend to be someone they aren't for the sake of social fulfillment, what's even the point? In Persona the protagonists are made to be appealing to every social link in the game's scenario, real life people don't have that advantage
>>740232445yes, actually
A Persona is a mask. A false "you" you put on to navigate certain social interactions, like a customer service smile.The important part Persona carefully balances is never losing your real self to your persona and vice-versa and knowing when and with who it's okay to take your mask off with.
>>740245372Ok dweeb
>>740245986what the heck!!!! take it back or I'll cauterize your butt cheeks shut.
