The absolute decline of the Yakuza franchise should be studied
>>740243754you can only milk the cow for so long
He and Yongyea definitely had dirt on the casting director.
>>740243754Qrd?
Rolling eyes fallRuling dies out
>>740243970schizo babble over "muh woke"
>>740244168>"muh woke"Rent free
>>740243754I like sungwon I think he's funnyall his deep voices sound the same though
>>740244402>Rent freecope
Yakuza flopped in the West>Yakuza blew up as memes on the internet for western audiences.>The sales tell a different story and are tepid and worse entry after entry, Japan and Asia are indeed the majority of sales and that share seems to increase game after game (despite overall sales being lower overall)https://www.installbaseforum.com/forums/threads/bloomberg-netease-to-stop-funding-nagoshi-studio-as-it-cuts-back-on-gaming.4452/page-2#post-406650>sales in Japan and Asia seem to have made up a big part of this momentum, as Yokoyama notes, “The game is incredibly strong in Japan. Sales in (the rest of) Asia are also quite strong, but the momentum in Japan is even greater than in the past.”https://automaton-media.com/en/news/like-a-dragon-infinite-wealth-dev-surprised-by-unprecedented-speed-of-sales-and-big-change-in-sales-pattern/
>>740244503I wouldn't mind him if he didn't intentionally ruin the English VA business to monopolies roles he screwed himself over of getting cause he wasn't japanese
>>740244573>copeProjecting
when did yakuza go downhill? played 1 and 2 a few years ago and they were amazing, then played 0 also really good but not as soulful, kiwami felt like a bunch of reused assets slapped together, but i'm afraid 3,4,5,6 are not going to be as good, definitely not playing from 7 onwards
>>740244825fanbase became unberable retarded brownoids after 0 released on steam.The games itself with 7 onwards
>>740244620english VA got fucked after Hari Kondabolu whined about Apu, whatever anyone else did was a drop in the bucket in comparison
>>740243754what do you call this phenotype?
>>740245608YouTubber
>>740245608Gook supreme
>>740245608PAY VOICE ACTORS NOW
>>740245608>these few unshaven hairs on his neck
>>740243754Yakuza 0 was one of the best Yakuza games, and also the worst thing that could happen to the whole series. Sad but true.
>>740244825Yakuza was never good. It's no wonder most of the fanbase are women, lol
>>740243754>>740245608Friendly reminder that this guy has a hot white wife while you losers are still jerking it to tranny porn in your mom’s boyfriend’s basement
>>740243754>>740245608this guy is married to a white qt and you are not
>>740246045yakuza 1,2,0 were fun beat em ups with amazing atmosphere and setting, especially the ps2 games, lots of detail, really immersive, cant talk about the others, and i don't know what you mean about women being fans, i don't know a single woman who plays yakuza
>>740246062>>740246103>least blatant samefag
>>740243754Yakuza 7, 8 and Lost Judgment are literally the best games in the franchise. STH looks amazing.
>>740243754>he absolute decline of the Yakuza franchise should be studiedThere are like 30 fucking games if you count all the re-releases. Its no fucking mystery.
>>740244825>when did yakuza go downhillThe writing became wacky shounen slop starting with 7 and became unbearable with 8 and Pirates but from a gameplay and game design perspective the games have only gotten better over time.
>american dubbing for a series steeped in japanese culture>getting Youtube people to do the above>vtumors>poorly made rereleases>stories of the newer games absolutely refusing to kill characters>and this is also starting to affect previous games' characters who died
>>740246062She's a landwhale and calls herself asexual.
>>740246839Bringing Mine back was the right choice
>>740245608How is he just mildly overweight yet his face makes him seem like he's 300lbFucking how?
>>740246839>Kiryu must die so Quirk Chungus man can finally shine
>>740245608>>740246939This guy doesn't even voice anyone in the Yakuza games why is the fanbase obsessed with him?
>>740243754>The absolute decline of the Yakuza franchise should be studied
>>740243754People always bring up how repetitive these games are or how the writing got worse after 0, but the real issue has always (since the second game) been that this is a series about criminals that isn't the least bit edgy. Yakuza 1 was the only exception. Everything that came afterwards avoided killing off major characters and tried to turn the protagonists and especially Majima into superheroes. The tone doesn't fit at all.
>>740244576MY LETS PLAYS SAVED YAKUZA
>>740247197>People always bring up how repetitive these games areI never see this complaint. Do you mean complaints about reused assets?
>>740244576>The sales tell a different story and are tepid and worse entry after entry7 and 8 are literally the best selling games in the franchise
>>740243754Already did that, the report says 'Tying the game franchise to the modern day timeline was fucking stupid.'
>>740243754>series based off of the gayest gangsters in the world is gay and cringe
>>740243754Mad dog of the buffet
>>740247269No, about how certain plot points are always reused.
>>740246829>from a gameplay and game design perspective the games have only gotten better over time.Gameplay peaked with LJ in 2021. They released half a dozen brawler games since and they were several steps backward.
i will never forgive them for turning mainline series into turn-based rpg ichiban is a good character stuck in shit games
>>740243754>Gordo Fatjima, the Fat Dog of Shimano
>>740248042ichiban is fucking shitkys
>>740243754It's another case of PCfags ruining a game series. It spent over a decade being just fine on PlayStation.
Went from being a japanese mafia game to Marvel tier adventures with Japs.
>>740247974I wouldnt count any brawlers they've released since LJ to really be mainline, big budget games. If STH has crappy combat then it's truly over.
>>740244825>when did yakuza go downhill? played 1 and 2 a few years ago and they were amazingIt's because the series pivoted away from the tone of the first two games and became an increasingly wacky and never-ending soap opera.
>>740248042Ichiban is a lame faggot and him being a shounen character has completely destroyed the writing of the games because everything revolves around that now
>>740248042The combat in Infinite Wealth was the best part of the game. Possibly the best turn based combat in any JRPG
>>740248762Ichiban had one and a half games and they’re already tired of him.
>>740247096CLAZY DARIVERY
>>740243754Nagoshi designed/wanted Kiryu and Majima to be like a japanese Batman and Joker, but not bad. What decline? Yakuza was always meant to be a soap opera mixed to what a boomer thought it was cool about capeshit
>>740246939tsukushi akihito syndrome
>>740243754almost
>>740246939Asian fat distribution tends to be a lil fucked
>>740246939How do Chinese/Korean people see? Their eyes are almost completely covered with eyelids.
>>740245608Obese
>>740246939He's the new voice of Doctor Doom in the new fighting game.
>>740247035he voiced at least one substory character in 7, probably other non-main roles
>>740251390or maybe it was lost judgment. all yakuza games look the same.
>>740245608Fat retard
>>740251940But I’m not asian
>>740244046I'm playing infinite wealth right now and this faggot takes me out of the game every time I hear his awful voice, his delivery is so forced and contrasts so horribly against all the other fantastic voice actors in the English dub.Whenever Kasuga or anyone else says a comment while walking around the city it feels natural and organic, then this fat fuck will say something and ends all his lines with a brooding growl to sound dark and mysterious and he just sounds like a total dork. Completely kills my immersion every time I hear him, what the fuck where they thinking casting him as Kiryu?
>>740252261>Yong? YEA
i dunno but infinite wealth is probably my favorite game i've played this year
>>740252261>h-h-he's just miscast! he'd be a good young Kiryu>sucks ass as 0 Kiryu anywayslmao
his kuza cosplays are kino
>Pretending like Yakuza was ever good to begin with.The entire series is infinitely more fun to think about playing then actually play. Idk how enjoys the awful beat em up system when they remove all the skills that make it bearable till you're 25 hours into a playthrough. Every game.
>>740244620The whole of the scene you're bitching about was talking about live action performances though.
>>740256507He's a voice actor, you retard, why would he be advocating segregational diversity for live action roles?
I liked the Hawaii games, but the Kiwami rewriting is where I draw the line.
How good is Ishin? and Lost Paradise (I've read that it works ok with shadPS4)?
>>740259157It's fun but you can accidentally become too strong if you beat the minigame when you first unlock it making the rest of the game trivial
>>740243970>series is doing fine in japan, very budget series, but never was a strong seller in the US>yakuza 0 suddenly is a huge success because of meme culture at the right time and actually being a really good game>suddenly sega keelturns over to start bringing the series over to the west more>games were already having some fast turnarounds; after a filler game with the shitty kiwami 1, dragon engine starts with 6 and they hit the yearly release schedule>judgment does fine, 7 is iffy but a breath of fresh air even if some don't care for ichiban>then shit starts getting turbo retarded, the kiwamis get really, really fucking bad (Ishin Kiwami is an absolute fucktarded misery), and suddenly they're trying so hard to appeal to westerners that the games are getting shonky english dubs>everything gets wacky and crazy first and the super serious plot stuff becomes even more out there and eccentric to match, despite always being kind of an "over the top" series to begin with>start including vtuber and content creator references or DLC and other shit>now yong yea is voicing kiryu at a teenage shouting quietly level>start fucking up localizations in the name of english dubbing; previously had them separate of each other where you had text for the japanese dub and then separate text for fitting english dub script but it's gone now>kiwami 3 happens, largely outsourced, missing swaths of content with dogshit to replace it, horribly fucked over in virtually every way they could've done>oops they were putting all budget to their brand new game and just letting the series zombify itself for years as fucking time killers for the yearly schedule>now people are finding them inching for more youtubers
>>740258689Because they were watching a live action show.Congratulations, you're one of the myriad people that never bothered to look for context and just assumed shit on your own.
>>740259809Could you please elaborate on what sucks about Isshin Kiwami?
>>740258851i'm not a furrybut...
>>740261291from the perspective of a fresh player it will seem mostly fine, if a bit occasionally strange for the sake of strange and a bit obnoxiously grindy. from the perspective of knowing what the original was like>Trooper Cards became a game wide mechanic instead of the intentionally zany post-game super dungeon encounters>bosses and fights got adjusted and massively stat inflated to compensate; now characters doing kamehameha beams are just an inherent part of certain fights and the general gameplay versus the original.. not doing any of that normally>if you're a difficulty chaser, this means a number of bosses just gain one hit kill moves>the gunman style was nerfed so it didn't overwhelm game balance, and instead just feels shitty to use now>enemy aggression and attacks got buffed so many fights will just start with you eating a hit the moment they can move if you don't habitually hold block; certain fights become downright fucktarded and the cracked out bosses become borderline dragon ball z characters of being ready to dash and spin about you>grinding crafting to upgrade your weapons was made more excessive so that a.) it's harder to progress in the game without more grind, and b.) they sell in-game materials for MTX money; it's not like mobile game tier egregious, it's still totally manageable, but it's scummy and just absolute garbage game padding>recast of several major characters to get rid of Yakuza 4-5 and OC actors in favor of Yakuza 0 and 6 ones because fuck you, which actually fucks with a couple characterizations and makes certain villains supremely obvious with prior series knowledge>unreal engine 4 so it can have some wonky dick performance issues depending on the PC rig, and they weren't entirely sure what they were doing with the engine yet so some things just look plain off
>>740259809So which ones should I play if I want the True™ Yakuza experience?
>>740245831OK that made me laugh
>>740245608basement korean
>>740243754>doing alright, chugging along with its own thing, under the radar to normalfags>goes mainstream>now gets more stuff and more spotlight but also brings in the most annoying fucking people you will ever fucking see in your life
>>740262258Do you value convenience and modern play? Kiwami 1 and 2 still "work", though both have issues like K1's boss regen and essence of Kiwami shit, and they're both PS2 cutscenes poorly pasted onto higher quality models. You want to play the series proper, you can rock Y1 and 2 Restored to get the series development as it progresses, and I'd say "hey just ride the series to 0 or 6". You can still get the remasters on GOG, bugs with heightened enemy aggression and blocking aside or so forth. After that point, maybe you're interested in Judgment or other stuff, that's biting the bullet on what you want, yet Dragon Engine games are so schizophrenic in quality that I wouldn't fault you for stopping at 0 instead of bothering with 6. But I will say 1 and 3 are a bit shonky one way or another.
>>740243754Just like the yakuza decline I guess?
>>740243970Director leaves the series for some China money it didn't work out, main writer he used to tar-wrangle on the retarded ideas takes over as studio and series director. Tard then proceeds to:>go full silly on everything and fatigue everyone>remake Yakuza 0 but add in extra cutscenes that actively ruin the game's narrative and ending if you don't skip and ignore them>delist Yakuza 0 from all other consoles because the rerelease is $30 more expensive and 3 times larger in memory and you'd need to be actually fucking stupid to buy it like that>update Kiwami 1 and 2, the former for $2 extra, but make it so you can't reuse your save file if you upgrade, also additional memory and stuff used too>make a godawful remake of Yakuza 3 for the 20th anniversary of the series that>>recasts characters>>gives worse vocal performances>>cuts the map size>>has shit lighting and graphics>>cuts 100 substories just about>>makes Kiryu's gameplay somehow worse in DoD mode than Gaiden and adds a shit gimmicky weapon style too>>changes the entire ending of the game to undo one character's death while also making him and another character seriously important to 4 and Saejima's nardative exit the story and be secret agents>>add an extra story for a very popular series character in Mine, advertise it as a new game, make it 2 hours long tops>then delist Yakuza 3 on every console again to make the shitmake the only available game unless you pony up a hundred-something bucks for the Steam bundleThat last one really set me off to the point I've just been completely ignoring Stranger Than Heaven. I'll buy it in a few years if it's decent and the studio can reflect, but otherwise fuck 'em, Yokoyama's a greedy fag who takes the fans for granted.
>>740243970You asked. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ddVJQdfFkU
>>740260652What show then, I'm pretty sure live action does not effect his line of work, otherwise he wouldn't have pitched about it
>>740243754You know, for a good while I was worried about this series. Ever since the ending to Pirates and the fuckup that is K3, I think I'm satisfied with the amount of Kino RGG brought us. I'm not going to play StH, it looks very normie coded, it's so removed from the mainline series that they can expirement with english va's and snoop dogg and shit. I'm good, there's 12 great games counting Judgment that I can always look back on and play in my 40's.
>>740265535NTA but it wasn't about watching a live action show, just live action casting in general.https://youtu.be/2m_v6JZR-d4?t=1641
