the image the broke /v/
Nah, it just made gamepads extremely common on pcs now too
>>740251992man he is so retarded
Now post the one were those retards couldn't transfer a file between a computer and an iToy and ended up having to record the screen with a camera, like dumb cavemen.
>>740251992i tried playing Total War with a controller. it didnt fly so good.
>>740251992I used to think exactly this. However, I noticed over the last few years my preference is hard to judge until I try out both control schemes first.I prefer playing shit like Darksiders franchise on keyboard and mouse after playing all three with both peripherals. K&M lets you ignore the lock on feature entirely which makes the combat a lot smoother. It's damn near required in 3 with how on point you have to be with crowd control on the higher difficulties. Being able to hit like 2 or 3 enemies in a single string naturally is a game changer when trying to lock everything down.I've also grown to prefer K&M in the Monster Hunter franchise even if I'm simply doing melee. It's fantastic in World, Rise, and Wilds and I could never go back to controller.I do play a lot of shit on controller too and it's practically my main peripheral on PC. Shooters are still pretty much 100% K&M, though.
first is not just shooters, it's also rts, ASSFAGGOTS, /gsg/, isometric CRPGs, card games, board games, factory games, basically anything other than console ports/ console genres (platformers, beat em ups, 3rd person action games, survival horror, etc)
>>740251992RTS is forgotten...
Controller is for shooters to, autists won't understand what fun is. They hyper optimize the fun out to focus on raw numbers
>>740252574Just admit you can't hit the broadside of a barn from the inside without ridiculous aim assists, shitter.
This is why all the streamers and pros don't use a keyboard and mouse. They all use a controller, because it's made for gaming. That's also why mouse and keyboard require aim assist while controller doesn't.
>>740252668Its funny when autists pretend they are honing some skill while pointing n clicking a mouse is super easy Just admit your limp wrist can't hold up a controller for 10 minutes so you have to lay it down on a table
>>740252904>he says, while playing games sitting downFat ass shitter.
>>740253014>he doesn't have a standing desk
>>740253110>deskCan't hold a controller, huh, fatass shitter?
>>740253014I can play in any position I want, you can't with a keyboard
>>740251992i wouldnt want to play a city builder or a rts on a controller
>>740253214You need aim assist but you can play standing up, congratulations.
>>740253214Doesn't seem ergonomic
>>740253195I use a controller for the games that need one
>>740252574the trvke that shattered KBM sissies
>>740253214>looking up while standing when we clearly see the tv on a stand basically level with the couchRetarded comic made by a retard for retards.
>>740253291lol and you'll need medical assist when you can bloodclots in your legs and fuck up your spine cause you choose to be stationary all day. I'll live but can't say the same for you fella
>>740251992that's why i play on a steam deck :)best of both worlds :)
>>740252574>still no hamster interrogation gameGod this industry's soulless.
>>740251992He's a boomer stuck in the past
>>740253451autism moment
>>740253479>he doesn't exercise at least 1 hour a dayNGMI
Consolefaggots should have never been allowed anywhere near computers. Keep your gay ass toy joysticks away from computer gaming
>>740253596For (you).
>>740253596Retard detected.
>>740253735Its funny autists play the same games but use work equipment so they pretend they are adults >SHUT UP MOM LOOK IM PLAYING MARIO WITH A KEYBOARD SO IM A BIG BOY NOW
>>740253214I use KBM in bed all the time and it's really easy and comfy if you aren't a retard.
Consolecucks cant afford PCs
>>740253885Gay retard homos who use controllers on PC very often do it because they are computer illiterate. The correlation is crazy
>>740254165Most third worlders play on PC lmao
>>740254349More consolecuck cope
>>740254349>All the blue countries are nonwhiteinteresting...
>>740254439>facts and data are copelol
>>740254484List several sources cuckmade
>>740254349LMAO looks like the entire console market turns out to just be Japan and their slave colonies LMAO.
>>740251992 nigga rode the short bus
>>740251992Only this nigga would play RTS with a controller
playing baldurs gate 3 on console was a miserable experience.
>>740252904
Amerigga's obsession with consoles has done irreparable damage to the entire games industry
>>740251992Pretty much all shooters play just fine with a gamepad.The only exceptions are esports garbage, and games like Quake due to flickshots being impossible and strafejumping sucking ass on anything but a mouse and keyboard.
Why is it that only racing games make use of players' feet? You have two good limbs and ten more digits just dangling there doing nothing.
>>740254684Controllers have literally never made sense for anything besides sidescrollers and movie gamesand I guess tank controls if you want to claim that for yourselves
>>740251992Reminder that James doesn't even like videogames, and doesn't know how modern technology works. Mike had to plead with him to stop recording on VHS, so he switched to DVD.He recorded the Majora's Mask video on 12 DVDs.He's too stupid to use a capture card.
>>740251992I kinda get it. I used to change out of my work clothes the moment I punched out, something about not having to do the drive home "in work mode". That said I game on PC and work on PC and don't relate, but I get it
>>740252904dude its not even up for debate, aim assist keeps the console kiddies playing their games
>>740254769You're only saying that because you suck at aiming with a controller
>>740252574>you raise your hands upNobody does this.
>>740254961You can't suck at aiming with a controller the game aims for you.
>>740255037Have you tried disabling auto-aim? Plenty of games let you do that.
>>740254961I wouldn't know. I've never tried playing shooters with a controller. It seems like nonsense
/vst/ would like a word with you
>>740254749Not using pedals is just dumb; I've got a thing with three (binary) and it's perfect for PTT among other things.Most people can't even move their pinkies independently though, there's no chance they could do their toes. And if you think you have full control over your fingers, take your off hand and try to bend the pinky at the middle knuckle without moving any other fingers.
>>740254907Its funny people like this are never pros or play competitively but care deeply about hyper precision
>>740254037If it's so easy why don't you post a picture of yourself doing it faggot
>>740251992post the webm of avgn playing doom 2016
>>740255315
>>740255739Doesn't look comfy at all.
>>740255739>naked feetMODS MODS MODS
>>740255795It's very comfy. Try it some time. The 55" TV is turned toward my bed so it doesn't look as awkward as I made it look in the illustration. I also have a table and a computer chair in front of the TV so I can eat without laying in bed.
>>740255886>anything but sex (with ur hand /v/irgin) or sleeping in bedshiggy
>>740251992I can play shooters fine with a controller.
aim assistfags shouldn't be allowed to discuss videogames
>>740255954>just buy another $1000 piece of furniture to accomplish the same thing but less comfortably and take up even more room in your houseI'll continue laying in bed to use my PC, thanks.
>>740255315NTA but when I'm lying down on bed, I have a laptop (on an angled cooling pad) on my chest, a half keyboard like in the image on my left and a mouse on my right. It's pretty comfy.
>>740251992>Doesn't play RTS>Doesn't okay fighting gameskek
>>740252570i got you covered anon
>>740251992>All these zoomers not realizing this is an edit
>>740254643This shit is retarded. Who are you shooting in a game like apex that's standing dead still like that? Try that auto aim on a moving target
>>740255989like winning the special olympics
>>740252439i used to like keyboard and mouse until i started working and wind up sitting at a desk all fucking day. I don't want to spend my gaming time also sitting at a desk. Nope, controller + recliner all the way.
>>740251992Controller is infinitely better for MMOs and I will die on that hill.
>>740256370Your mouse "skills" wont translate into anything meaningful
>>740256447>well like i breathe oxygen all day so like when i get home i just want to breathe water, ya know?
>>740251992
>>740256510it's better for one mmo two if you count PSO as an mmo
>>740256524do you...think you're "training" for something by playing...video games?
>>740256351nigger there's a reason every top player plays with a controller
>>740251992If he said that shit in front of me i'd punch his face and break his glasses
>>740251992>everything else>*except strategy games>**except MMOs
>>740251992Pretty close to correct.I ain't playing a fucking MMO with a controller.
>>740256716and we're all soo proud of you!
>>740255164How do you know it doesnt make sense if you've never tried it?
>>740256678No, do you? Why you care so much about aim assist, its a game for fun not some professional sport
>>740256603>PSOPublic service company of Oklahoma?
>>740256845i accept your concession, farewell
>>740256907it's called Phantasy Star Oklahoma ya dummy
>>740256951what a childish mindset lmao
>>740254349Holy fuck
>>740254349Seems like most first worlders do too.In fact it just seems like most people do.
>>740257019Damn this is worse that the time I didn't know WOW stood for World of Washington.
>>740256840because I know controllers are sluggish and trying to control a first person player would suck
>controller stick for moving around>trigger for firing>mouse for aimingMaybe it'd be a bit idort but why hasn't a control scheme like this been done? Like Wii Nunchuck+Mouse... I feel like it could work.
>>740257191>europe>first worlders lol
>>740257332You do know what first world, second world, and third world means right?
>faggots ITT really arguing over which is the SECOND best fps controls
>>740253214left: careless scrub retardright: locked the fuck in team carry
>>740257462oh brother here comes the history lesson from Mister "Cold War is still totally relevant in 2026 guys"
>>740251992I don’t get it
>>740257527I'm not the one who brought up Cold War terms.
>>740251992Bro has never played an RTS in his life and it shows
>>740251992KBM is deprecated.
>>740257636He's saying you should shoot lightning from your hands like the emperor for shooters but give two thumbs up for everything else, hope that clears it up
>>740251992He's right, but I would also add RTS and MMOs to this, although some MMOs, like XIV, feel pretty good with control, but it might be the only one idk.
>>740253214>implying I can't do all that shit in my swiveling egg chairExcept for lying on my belly because I am 5'11 and the King of the Manlets does not lie on his belly kicking his feet up in the air like a pre-teen girl giggling over, I dunno, Timothee Chalomee or whatever the fuck his name is.All I know is his name is actually spelled Timothee, which means he's a cunt.But I will swear by this egg chair for the rest of my fucking life.
>>740257846bro you look like Steve from Blues Clues about to join the MIB
>>740256527>these are totally the same thing>i'm not a retarded faggot neet.
>>740257846is that actually comfy? I've been looking at picrel but>$3500is making me seocond guess.
>have left hand on buttons (too many buttons but whatever)>have right hand arrow keys>have third hand on mouseAnd yet somehow the N64 is the three hands meme
>>740251992>toptitties>bottomclitoris
>>740251992agree and I play on PCI also play ARPGs with controller
>>740252574No it doesn't No it doesn'tNo it doesn'tNo it doesn'tNo it doesn'tYou've never held a gun
>>740258714Compelling argument NOT!
>>740252574>uses a joystick to aim like it's a remote turret>aim moves 1:1 with your armSo much for immersion
>>740258860You picked the worst of both worlds. Specialized controllers shit on gamepads for immersion, and your little thumbstick is quite possibly the least accurate input method ever created
>>740259638>another control method you need a table forJust say you fat bro
>>740251992Maybe if you never play strategy games, crpgs, mobas, etc etc, because those are painful on a controller
>>740254961>You're only saying that because you suck at aiming with a controllerI suck at crossing an icy path with a unicycle too. It's a sub optimal option.
>>740259749Say that again when you pull your fat ass off the couch
>>740254643>totally not fake
>>740254349
>>740252439Based idort. But in the end who the fuck cares what you use. The point of being a pc gamer is that you have the CHOICE to use the optimal peripheral for your needs and wants. I'm not saying people should stop being autists who use kb/m for absolutely everything but at least know you have the choice next time you play a game and it feels extremely unintuitive.
>>740252574>it's fun because you push the trigger inyou should try fidget spinners
>>740253735Keyboards were never meant for gaming. Moving around using WASD is absolute dog shit compared to a thumbstick, and some of yall need to stop being in denial saying it's not. The ideal, and best combo would be a thumbstick for moving around, and mouse for aiming/looking, but outside of some niche items/setups, that's not possible.
>>740251992There isn't a single genre that controllers excel at outside of sportsball.
>>740251992I once met a guy who actually said this. I'll never get it. It feels like such a superficial statement to make, like no consideration was actually made for both options, it was just said to scrutinize KB+M because "'troller's what im used to." and they want to somehow make it seem like an informed decision.
>>740260507autist forgot what fun was
>>740260596>The ideal, and best combo would be a thumbstick for moving aroundIf this was true, people playing Quake or CS would have done this years ago.Fact is, the additional vectors offer no real world value and having a keybind that guarantees silent walking is objectively better.
>>740260616>racing games on a keyboard
>>740257527You are the ones constantly talking about how you cannot lose to communisms and shit
>>740260830Nice selfie, you use a wheel for racing you retard.
>>740260830>steering with an input that has half an inch of movement
>>740251992Now that I've gotten used to it, I actually find using WASD for 2D games preferable to any D-pad control. I'm having a good time playing Mina this way currently. Being able to use three fingers to separately control each direction is way more functional than relying on just one thumb that has to jump between all four inputs. This week I actually finished playing Sonic Frontiers on my laptop keyboard. Using my thumb on the trackpad and the spacebar to center the camera actually worked fine. I was playing it at work so I couldn't be using a controller or I would arouse suspicion to say the least.
>>740252574Just play a light gun game at that point
>>740253214GOOD MORNING, SAAR!
>>740261103And somehow keyboard players utterly mog controllerfags lmao
>>740257636He's someone who played video games on the NES as a kid. Video games were a phase of his childhood, and then he left them behind like any other toy. When it became his job, he had to go back to playing games but obviously in his mind, playing is using a joystick and working (editing videos for example) is using a keyboard.
>>740261235>he's retardedThere. You used a lot of extra words when you really only needed two, so I fixed it for you.
>>740257636Controllers are for video games, keyboards are for word processors.
>>740260979Only works for simslop, trash for any other racing game, controller is better
>>740261215Meanwhile in reality KBM faggots are always crying about crossplay with controllerKINGS kek
>>740261789Arcades pre-date home consoles and basically used a keyboard. Controllers are a compromised input for mass adoption and portability.
>>740252574whats more immersive? le plastic toy i hold in my hands is le tactile? or that my in-game aiming isn't as if im drunk and wearing 50 t shirts over top of each other. janky aiming is only good if it serves the genre (survival horror for example) otherwise its just a nuisance
>>740261919KBMgods have dignity, unlike consolepoors.
>>740252574faggot
>>740260696>people playing Quake or CS would have done this years ago.I remember someone linking a video by a dude trying out a $200 controller in a bunch of games that was basically just an ergonomic layout for a thumbstick instead of WASD along some keys. He was showing off some tech you could do, implying it was gamechanging, and acting like he could never go back. I looked at a recent video nearly a year after it and, of course, he was back on M/KB with the controller nowhere to be found. And even in that video he was pointing out how it had downsides and lots of basic tech in games like counterstrafing became inconsistent or there were jumps in TF2 he struggled to make on it.
>>740262000skill issue
>>740251992I want him to play an rts or a city builder
>>740262119yeah consolepoors have a skill issue I agree
>>740251992?
>playing a game that plays for you because the input is so bad?certainly not K&M chads
>>740262000I love how the people who cry about aim assist always use examples from the same 2 or 3 games, mainly just CoD and Apex, and acting like it applies to every single game that has controller support with aim assist. Yes, aim assist is too strong in some games such as CoD and Apex, but if you apply that argument universally to all games with controller support, you're just a disingenuous, crybaby, pussy faggot.
>>740261861That's wrong
>>740262268All console FPS have auto-aim anon. It's because analog is inherently and objectively a dogshit input.Controllers should have moved to trackpad and gyro years ago, but consolefags need auto-aim because they have no dignity.
>>740262268How it started (>>740261919)>Meanwhile in reality KBM faggots are always crying about crossplay with controllerKINGS kekHow it ended: (>>740262268)>you're just a disingenuous, crybaby, pussy faggot.
controllers are for platformers and action games. rpgs can go either way depending on the specifics of the gameplay. mostly everything else is better on kb+m, except oddball genres that have their own dedicated controllers like fighting games.
>over 100 keys>this is a well designed input method according to some peopleHow am I supposed to use every button with only two hands
>>740251992How do you play games while sticking your thumbs up mens asses?
>>740262381auto aim =/= aim assist. Auto aim is what GTA has on a controller. It's significantly more aggressive than aim assist. Everyone, including controller players, pretty much agree that when it comes to competitive play, controller is significantly worse than mkb without aim assist. Trackpads and gyro will never become mainstream.
>>740251992Sword n board has much better fine tuned movement control in terms of looking around sure, but actual character movement is better on controller.
>>740262591>controllers are for platformersKeyboard is the best input for 2d platformers (Arcades recongised that fingers are better than thumbs) controllers are a compromised input for mass adoption and portability.For 3D platformers K&M also wins provided there is freelook. >and action gamesK&M wins here also. Having fun camera control is objectively better than using a camera lock crutch.
>>740262702It's auto-aim. The game is automatically aiming for you. It takes control away from the player. The game is playing itself. It's like playing a platformer that jumps gaps for you.
>>7402625132 different points you're trying to lump together, anon.
>>740251992The perfect example is playing diablo 3 for the first time on a controller.. never though it would work and that keyboard is superior.. my god i was wrong, diablo games are literally more fun to play on a controller.
>>740251992>James thinks a controller is the most optimal choice for a point-and-click game
>>740262268All console shooters have aim assist. Shooters are simply unplayable without them, unless you design them like PS1/N64 shooters where the enemy just stands there for 5s and misses 80% of the shots.Plug your controller on a PC and try to play something like Counter Strike and see how it goes. Do it against the dumbest bots.
>>740262737keyboards might be more precise than a controller but I think platformers just feel better with a controller. probably just bias from growing up playing platformers on Nintendo consoles, tbf.
>>740262804It's the same point. You can't say K&Mgods are crybabies, then immediately start lashing out the moment someone points out fps on controllers aim for you lmao
>>740252574controllers for shooters, even with gyro and flickstick is still worse than mouse, but you could argue comfy factor makes it great. controller with aim assist is utter unredeemable dogshit tier and you might as well not even be playing the game. it’s already playing itself.
>>740262153Last time I played Halo I remember the aim magnetism pulling my aim away from people I was trying to shoot because someone else happened to be in the vicinity of my crosshair. I don't know how controller players deal with this shit
>>740262787Cod and Apex don't have auto-aim. Strong aim assist? Yes. Auto Aim? No. They're factually different mechanics.
>>740262856>keyboards might be more precise than a controller but I think platformers just feel better with a controllerIt's not though. Mushing your thumb over d-pad and face buttons will never ever be better than a keyboard. Again, controllers are a compromised input for mass adoption and portability.
>>740262901There is no differentiation. The game is taking away control from the player. It's all auto-aim.Analog is fucking trash.
>>740251992It's funny cus he contradicts himself hard since he has shown himself playing on a keyboard so many times ever since he was a kid.
>>740252574this arguement would make 2x as much sense for the wii-mote with the gun accessory but otherwise this is either bait or made by someone who's never even shot an airsoft gun
>>740251992>the ima-AAAAAAAAAAAAAACCCCKKYou spamming eceleb faggot should kill yourself already.
>>740256510I can't imagine playing WoW on a controller, I know some people do but it would just feel wrong. I've played some "single player MMO" style games with action bar-lite combat on console, and it can work, but you just don't have the same reactivity or breadth of keybinds available. And even besides that, the movement in WoW is among the smoothest of any game I've played and I really can't see it being the same on controller.
>>740262896they don’t even notice, they’re getting high and playing on autopilot with no neuron activation, like an insect just responding to stimuli
At this point, I only use a gamepad for fighting games/sports games (including wrestling games) and older console games designed for controller.Mainly sports games.
>>740262830Console Diablo 3 has half the enemies on screen that PC has. It's a different game.
>>740262946>1>4>A in morning, B in the afternoon and beyond
>>740262902ok well it's just my opinion so chill. also I'm not using the dpad in this day and age, talking about stick. which again, might not be the most precise for platforming, but it feels good, TO ME. I'm willing to admit it's probably just familiarity bias but that's how I feel. you don't have to agree.
>>740251992I played Witcher 3 with KB+M and it's the ideal way to play that game with the right key mapping.It's rare, though, that KB+M is the superior option for 3rd person non-shooters.
>>740253214>hurr this is youthe lowest form of wit
>>740262901>game literally aims for you>not auto-aim???
>>740252574And thus he cried when kinect died.
>>740252269if its the video im thinking ofhe was using bloody fraps to record fan gamesbut he was unable to get to work or even try touse a better software so he just recorded the computers screen
>>740263472If you want to get picky about using terms literally, then mouse and keyboard is also auto-aim. You use the mouse to rotate the camera and the game automatically moves your gun to match the alignment of the camera. You don't have to make any input to move or rotate the gun like you would do if you played in VR with a 6 dof controller.
>>740252668>turn off aim assist in games>learn how to aim without aim assistWhat now keyboard+mouse trannies?
>>740263874You might be the biggest retard on this site.By your logic, car steering has auto aim as well. You steer with the steering wheel and the car moves the tires to match the alignment of the steering wheel. You don't have to make any input or move the tires like you would do if you were driving a Freddy Flintstone car with 2 feet throttle.
>>740264092>tfw bikechad using the superior input method
>>740263874retard of the year award
>>740262946im a 5-3-C kind of guy
>>740252574If console fags believed this VR would be alive.
>>740264092Then how would you differentiate having full control over your aim? It takes 6 dof to control a gun and your mouse is only capable of 2. No matter how you look at, the game is automatically doing something for you, which fits your definition.>By your logic, car steering has auto aim as well.Your input in a car is physically transmitted through mechanisms into the car. It isn't like a gun magically floating to match your head position so you don't have to aim it yourself. Either way, this is your logic not mine so I don't need to defend it. I would say the term is used for specific mechanisms rather than it applying to anything the game does for you. Mouse and keyboard is not auto aim by my definition.>>740264379>game literally aims for you>not auto-aim???
>>740263874In what world does this not meet the definition of auto-aim? If this does not constitute auto-aim then no words have any meaning at all.
>>740264716some retard will say this is actually magnetism and not auto aim
>>740264716The world that defines auto aim as locking onto a target like you do in GTA. The video you posted is aim assist that is so ridiculous that it might as well be auto aim, but it still isn't auto aim since that term refers to a different mechanic that isn't used in the video.
>erm ackchually, technically literally semantically spiritually linguistically we are all auto-aim, my criteria for auto-aim presupposes there is no axiom for auto aim
>>740264960you said it yourself, LOCK ON. The video has auto-aim, not lock on. It doesn't lock onto anything, it just aims for you
>>740254349Hehe! Homer Sumpso
>>740254907>meanwhile every competitive PC shooter has aimbots running rampantNo you’re right KBM gigachads would never
>>740264615You use the mouse to align your aim and the camera matches it.I don't know what moving your aim along the Z axis is supposed to do when attacks travel down the Z axis until they hit something, but I guess aim magnification could be considered Z axis aiming
>>740264960no, it's definitely just auto aim, the game is automatically aiming for you without any camera input. that's what auto aim is
>>740263106Most shooters aren't made for them nimrod
>>740264497It is alive (for non-fat people)Sadly most people are fat
Based and true, He's right. But of course /v/ is filled to the brim with shittters LOL
>>740251992Correct. But also MMOs and RTS and MOBAs
>>740265231I hate this image because VR driving without a wheel is retarded
>>740265461not to mention the fact that people played Wii games while laying on the couch and doing minimal wrist movements. No one did those exaggerated wiggles they used as marketing material.It takes more muscle strength to sit up and play on KBM than lay down and waggle with Wii
>>740265231I hate this image because it's AI sloppa combined with a pretentious as fuck post
>>740265058The main difference that actually being able to align your gun with your vision is a significant task for aiming. On a regular game the gun is always aligned straight. You never have to rotate it or move it to line up the sighs. This isn't the case in VR where you actually do control both the gun and your vision independently. Having your gun rotated a bit off will obviously throw off your ability to aim.>>740265142>without any camera inputThat sounds like an arbitrary qualifier. It is ok for the game to automatically aim for you as long as you are controlling the camera? When we are defining auto aim so broadly, it actually isn't a bad thing.
>>740265591>the basics of playing is pretentious Bro lost his soul and energy
>>740265678bro really said bro lost his soul and energy
>wireless keyboard>wireless mouse>comfy in bedyep, the future is now
>>740253214Lies.
>>740265652>That sounds like an arbitrary qualifier.it's a qualifier that makes this black and white undeniable. if the game required some mixture of camera input in order to aim for you, you could argue that it's actually just aim assist, but in this case there is no weasel room. the game is LITERALLY, automatically aiming for you with no external input
>>740265861that jack daniels bottle tells me all about your terrible taste in booze and life in general
>>740253214Lies
>>740251992>people can't handle the fact that different controls are better for different thingsNobody is like this. People will argue for the sake of arguing or argue one is better overall but nobody, other than actual retards and in that case why argue with those poor fuckers, is earnestly argue that a mkb is better for racing games or that a controller is better for shooters.
>>740265652Aligning a gun with your vision is trivial when you have a physical gun in your hands. VR doesn't compare in the slightest
>>740263910>can't make microadjustments like gyro and mouse chads>get violently raped 24/7go play r6s on consoles if you want to see what controller w/o aim assist is like
>>740265951>the game is LITERALLY, automatically aiming for you with no external inputIt is and I'm not denying that. I'm only saying that the term auto aim doesn't actually refer to the game literally automatically aiming for you in this way. It refers to a different mechanic. I get that you want to use the term because it sounds like a bigger insult, but that really isn't necessary. Any reasonable person can just look out how bad it is and see that the aim assist is out of control. >>740266121But is it as trivial as pointing a mouse?
>>740266097I sincerely despise consolefags and controllers as a matter of principle because they could have stuck to their retarded children's toys and left the rest of us alone but they just had to invade and ruin the PC market too, so no more half measures. KBM only
>>740266162>cant snap to targets or sweep with impeccable timing under pressure with stickwith enough practice, anything is possible. gyro is based though especially with controller.
>>740266451>bro check out this autism game!!!! I click fast so its good!!!!!!lol
With a PC you can play anyway you want.
>>740266367>is it as trivial as pointing a mouse?Absolutely. The stock and cheek pad do almost all of the work and you aren't even conscious of the micro adjustments that muscle memory takes care of
>>740251992I can't take anything James says seriously anymore now knowing how much of a tech-illiterate retard he actually is irl.
>>740266801pc vegans cry most about crossplay lmao
>>740266367If you're mentally breaking up actions into individual motions then you're overthinking and aren't in full control of your body
I can understand why PCfags hate controllers so much considering they were only fed garbage their whole lives.
>>740251992I prefer controller for 2d games, jrpgs, fighting games, platformers, combo-based action games like dmc and racing games. everything that requires fast camera movement is just better with a mouse. playing something like max payne 3 with aim assist would feel like cheating; you didn't beat the game, bro.
>>740266668I see. So the gun isn't automatically aiming with magic, but instead through an abstraction to represent me virtually having anon's gun skills despite having never used a real one.
>>740252574Holy based
>>740267031We literally cracked your console and installed linux on it so you can have better games and mods.
>>740267215Basically. Your character in an fps is usually an experienced shooter
>>740267618>play first person shooter>my character isn't actually the first person to be a shooter
>>740267332Damn i can play all pc games on my ps5 and play more games you can't at a cheaper priceGood deal
>>740267752Can you play magic school bus sandcastle builder?That's what I thought faggot
>>740252574>autiststhe only autists are retards like you, spamming this nonsense.
>>740253425retarded retard
>>740267141As if consoles didn't have any "little bro" type controllers in the past.
>>740251992more buttons is an unbeatable advantage...
>>740267937>>740267990samefag lmao, bro just types without saying anything
>>740253214On the right is what the author of this retarded comic looks like
>>740267031it's almost like giving half of your playerbase a free aimbot while denying it to the other half is garbage game design, huh
>>740267752Enjoy.Also you get to use keyboard and mouse if you want
>>740251992based.also, piracy, emulation and lolicon are illegal.
>>740268419You're emulating right now.Your CPU is emulating a x86 CPU, and javascript is an emulator of a non-existing bytecode.Turn off your machine and set it on fire.
>>740251992the truth is the exact opposite of this.
>>740253214>unironically saving an AIsloppa comicwhy are you this brown?
>>740251992I miss beardless James Rolfe…People complained about him balding but not enough about the caveman facial hair…
>>740268857Man was a step away from turning into senator armstrong
>>740268130only if you're making a game that's not meant to be played with a controller, like starcraft which reminds me of the Excel World Championship. I don't see how you might have an advantage in something like baldurs gate 3 or civilization which are also PC focused but play fine on consoles.
>>740252668Who cares if he could or not? It’s more fun these are toys homie
>controller aim assist has been around forever>PC players used to taunt console players, saying they'd steamroll said console/controller players>fast forward to present day>crossplay is standard now>PC players constantly cry about aim assistI honestly think it's a reality check for a lot of MKB players, as it turns out, they're not all Shroud as they think they are. In actuality, the vast majority are no better than the average console/controller player.
>>740251992>using a controller for strategy/RTS game
>>740267752>i can play all pc games on my ps5lol>play more games you can't at a cheaper pricelmao
>>740269336>anon forgets the slow buffing of aim assist over the years to make shitters feel like "pro"severy time i see some retard regurgitate this.every time.
>>740268857It all went to shit when he changed over to the short sleeved shirt.
>>740269483>anon uses nothing but CoD and Apex as proof that aim assist is universally legal aimbot. As if they're the only 2 games that existEvery time I see some retard regurgitate this.Every time.
>>740269610remember that time rainbow 6 had a controller only tourney?no?of course you dont.
>>740269336controller aim assist didn't used to be a literal aimbot. there was a period where it wasn't strong enough and early crossplay games were just a slaughter.fast forward to present day and you have games like modern gaylo that literally push your recital AWAY from other players to try to gimp mouse controls
>>740269730Esports is a joke lmfao
>>740269730Nice cherry picked clip that's been recycled thousands of times. You also fail to realize the difference between zero aim assist, some aim assist, and heavy aim assist. It's not the same across all games, but MKB complainers like to make you believe that all games have CoD-tier aim assist.
>>740269835Halo is a shit comparison because it also has bullet magnetism, just like Destiny has, for both controller and MKB users.
>>740269978there should be 0 aim assist. almost all first party controllers have come standard with gyro for the last 15 years. its just that if you take aim assist away from consolefag they cry and stop playing like with the finals because they just want the game to play itself for them
>>740268152I'm pretty sure the author looks like this
>>740251992LOL FUCK /v/
>>740269978>that's been recycled thousands of timeswow the good examples are being recycled because they are good examplesanon is the big brainso much big brain he doesnt realize that whatever level of bullshit CoD is doing is the industry stand for AA and anything LESS than that, including battlefield 6 where controller players have TWENTY FIVE PERCENT LESS RECOIL TO GO WITH IT got flack from controller playersit was "too strong" for them and they kept aimbotting playersthen dice proceeded to nerf it a bit because it was "too strong" and the controller players STILL bitched about how their aimbot was getting less effective and its not fair because>whole arm.(because it was now less strong than CoD's)they still have 25% less recoil btw.
There are people who used to claim they could get SSS ranks on KB/M.
M&KB is for everything, controllers are for faggots.
>>740251992It's a shame PC vegans will never know the joy of sitting on the couch with a gamepad and playing a game on the TV.
>>740257738>no chatpad
>>740251992There’s actually something wrong with your brain if you use KB+M for anything other than FPS, point and click adventure, CRPG and strategy games. Even with third person shooters, as long as the game you’re playing isn’t online multiplayer or very difficult, controller is the way. Then you have the absolute biggest autistic freaks imaginable whine that the KB+M controls aren’t good for fucking platforming or souls or racing games. It’s peak mental illness
I like to play destiny 2 with a controller on my couch. ive gone flawless hundreds of times. i like keyboard and mouse for when i play age of empires. but thats it. i dont play other games because they simply are not fun.
>>740273332>It's a shame PC vegans will never know the joy of sitting on the cou-ACK!
>>740252574Unironically this argument is spot on. It’s structured like a bait image and people treat it like one, but it’s just true. The only real benefit to KB+M is accuracy, which is vital in a game like CS2. Otherwise the controller provides a more immersive and comfy experience
>>740273882The joy of couch is you can have different positions, not another desk lmao
>>740274009you're a faggot? Why would you care about which way you sit
>>740274184To relax?
>>740252290so well*
On a subconscious level, keyboard users are defeated males
>>740274273you can't relax by laying back?
>>740274490No i like to lay down
>>740251992CRPGs used to have menus that were more easily navigated by mouse. MMORPGs are usually always better played with a mouse.
>>740262268nigga whatconsole kiddies only play cod and apex lmao
>>740252574Thumbstick niggers have nothing on gun feel.
>>740273762KB is actually fine for a lot of racing games. Most just expect you to turn full lock anyway
>>740257527It hasn't been more relevant than it is now lel.
>>740252698>literally only thinking about e-sports and streamers when talking about gamingThose are people who make money off of games. They are working. You just proved the point.
>>740254349That image shows console players are the third worlders though.
>>740251992This guy couldn't even figure out how to record a screen, and this guy directed a movie.
>>740254349nigger.
nmp
>>740282270Yeah bro africa is first world
Lateky ive been going back to kbm even for games like witcher 3 and ghost of tushima. Feels more responsive
>>740251992you must be a mad man if you can play real time strategy on a controller
>>740266097People keep bringing up games like racing games or flight games as an argument for controllers over KBM and it's ridiculous. These aren't games you play on a SNES derived controller like the Dualshock or 360 controllers, you play them with racing wheels and flightsticks and throttles.The handheld, monobody console controller that has dominated the industry for the last 40 years simply isn't good for anything.
>>740273762>There’s actually something wrong with your brain if you use KB+M for anything other than FPS, point and click adventure, CRPG and strategy gamesThere are plenty of games/genres where KBM is superior beyond those. Could you imagine playing Zomboid, Factorio or Terraria on controller? Controller is only superior for platformers and some third-person games. For racing it's irrelevant, both are extremely inferior to a wheel.
>>740284867Factorio is on PC, which doesn't have controllers. You have to use a mouse and keyboard hunched over a tiny monitor like a troglodyte.
The sole advantage of controllers are its analogue sticksThe right one is completely mogged by a mouse and the left one rarely benefits from omnidirectionality and input density 8 directions, 2 speeds and tap movements are good enough 99.9% of the time
>>740285025No one is telling you to sit at a desk you faggot
>>740273956>>740273762>There’s actually something wrong with your brain if you use KB+M for anything other than FPS>The only real benefit to KB+M is accuracyThere's more to kb&m than accuracy to the point where I played Outer Wilds with a kb&m and did the sun station achievement with it.MEANWHILE https://youtu.be/zQ0dnLofx0E you have slobbering retards like this struggling to move the camera with a controller.
>>740251992I dont take balding nerds seriously.
>>740285025>which doesn't have controllers????
>>740261215>woah look at this awesome hold forward gameplay where you just jump everytime your feet touch the ground>pctards think this is skillYou also use the rails at the bowling alley despite being 38 dont you
>>740253451He is playing Sony's moviegame.
>>740251992Some games are better with a controller, all shooters are better as m/kb
>>740262000Pckekes were literally so shit at games they had to buy aimbots to keep up with casual console players
>>740285272Did I stutter? You still can't hook controllers and big screen TVs up to a PC without a million adapters.
>>740251992he never said that
>>740285471Do you enjoy being a low trust society retard that wastes time on disingenuous and blatantly false posts like these?
>>740285471We're talking about controllers, not your obscure antique vibrating buttplug.
This should be a lot more common
>>740285683I like when old games are retarded about it. That's from Bully, which supports XInput natively and well, and I have a Series X controller.
It makes more sense if you compare controller input with controlling a tank. Meanwhile these days you can't imagine controlling your smartphone with a joystick, which is close mouse input.>inb4 smartphone comparison retardationIt'll be the same brainrot tiktok autism with a touchless smartphone, just with worse input.
>>740285319No, that's literally what consolepoors did.
>>740254349>the two most corpocucked nations on earth>the most generally cucked nation on earthNow that's a major self-own.
>>740285281>You also use the rails at the bowling alleyThis is what auto-aim is on controllers lmao
If controllers are so good why is the best to hold them like a keyboard?
>>740288545You hold your keyboard like that?
the absolute state of controllerfags hahahaha
>>740251992I don't trust the guy who went hiking wearing sneakers with a bottle of coke and no water.
>>740288572I push buttons with my fingers instead of mushing my thumbs over the face of a surface, yes.
>>740288572More like "do you hold your controller like that" lmaooooBut yes, I push buttons with my fingers instead of mushing my thumbs over the face of a surface, yes. Controllerfags have to suffer for this lmao
>>740288664I use my thumbs on my keyboard too.You don't hit space with your thumb?
>>740288625You mean James?he never said this.
>>740288707>instead of mushing my thumbs over the face of a surface, yes.Keep reading retard I already countered your argument LMAO
>>740288745Not him, but are you retarded?
>>740288745What is "my" argument? Where did you "counter" it?But first, answer my question. Do you not use your thumbs on the keyboard?
>>740251992It's person to person. Some games just play more naturally with a controller, platformers, racing (I consider steering wheels to effectively be gigantic ass controllers honestly), etc, others better with mouse and keyboard. But you WILL find people with some retardedly absurd skill at shooters on a controller, such as folks with gyro aim in Splatoon and other games that seriously utilize the feature + flick stick; meanwhile there are people who play Souls games, Yakuza and so forth with MKB who are incredibly precise and efficient, and it's natural to them. There's also shooters simply balanced and primed for analog sticks that are either broken by mouse, or straight up gimp the mouse. There's never gonna be a universal answer or solution because what (You) use isn't going to perfectly line up with someone else.It's like bitching about inverted camera controls or numerous other features per person.
>>740289032my cousin straight up learned to play with inverted because halo CE lied and he never poked at the settings for literal years
>>740251992i mean, wrong? how are you supposed to beat soma with a fucking controller? stupid retarded cunt
>>740251992I can't wait to play my RTS games with a controller.
>>74026294644D
>>740288816>>740288851You arent mushing your thumbs over multiple buttons on a keyboard You're both actually brain damaged lmaoUnless you're phoneposters hahahahahahahaha
>>740251992>wanting to feel like an insect while playing a shooterNo thanks bro, Imma keep my big dick energy and play fps on gamepad for immersion
>>740289237>Dodges the questionsCute! Want to try again?>What is "my" argument? >Where did you "counter" it?Don't be scared.
>>740289282If you think about it using a controller on a fps game is actually less immersive because you're controlling your character that's likely a human or humanoid, like a tank vehicle. Literally the only immersive part about the controller is the trigger because it's "close to a gun trigger" which is the kind of connection an underdeveloped brain would make.
>>740289329>>I push buttons with my fingers>>instead of mushing my thumbs over the face of a surface, yes. >I use my thumbs on my keyboard too. I had already clarified that keyboards aren't the same as controllers when it comes to using your thumbs. You went ahead with your retarded response anyway, completely humiliating yourself lmao.I set out bait, you fell for it hahahah.
>>740289503>Dodges the question >three times in a rowWhat is "my" argument?Where did you "counter" it?
>>740256160How do you type NIGGER on that piece of junk?
>>740289532>tries to imply using thumbs on a keyboard is similar to using a controller Keep playing dumb, I literally provided quotes, it's now up to you to retort. It's clear you have none and you're rattled lmaoooo
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/JqAWGntT135HtfgNeX5rBQ/Reminder
>>740289598>4 times...I'll help you out, you clearly need it.Finish these two sentences>"I belive that your argument is...">"I think I countered said argument by saying..."Go ahead, prove you can read and write.
>>740252574>>740253214I use both so I'm not offended
>>740289670>tries to imply using thumbs on a keyboard is similar to using a controller Keep playing dumb, I literally provided quotes, it's now up to you to retort. It's clear you have none and you're rattled lmaoooo
>>740289716>5 timesIf you're going to cede the argument to me, I accept your concession.We can't move on until you do this.>>740289670
>>740256160>NTAle epic accronyms just like on reddit. nobody gives a shit, dumbass
>>740289716Why did you reply >I use my thumbs on my keyboard tooAfter I said >>I push buttons with my fingers >>instead of mushing my thumbs over the face of a surface, yes. The answer is: you tried to imply using your thumbs on a keyboard is similar to a controller. However, I already pointed out that it isnt.Now you're eternally going to seethe and be rattled over being baited so easily.You lost, I accept your concession.
>>740289935Why are you replying to yourself?
>>740289965I'm driving
>>740289990And that means you accepted your own concession...why?
>>740290007Your desperation for any sort of win is obvious hahahahahaha you're so rattled.Why did you reply >I use my thumbs on my keyboard too After I said >>I push buttons with my fingers >>instead of mushing my thumbs over the face of a surface, yes. The answer is: you tried to imply using your thumbs on a keyboard is similar to a controller. However, I already pointed out that it isnt. Now you're eternally going to seethe and be rattled over being baited so easily. You lost, I accept your concession.
>>740290052>6 timesWe can't move on until you do this, kid.>>740289670
>>740290143Your post is a non-sequitur. I accept your concession. Why did you reply >I use my thumbs on my keyboard too After I said >>I push buttons with my fingers >>instead of mushing my thumbs over the face of a surface, yes. The answer is: you tried to imply using your thumbs on a keyboard is similar to a controller. However, I already pointed out that it isnt. Now you're eternally going to seethe and be rattled over being baited so easily. You lost, I accept your concession.
>>740290204>He's still too afraid to do it.What is "my" argument? Quote it or lose.Your choice.
>>740290143>>740290204>>740290336you both sound like insufferable fuckin queers. shut the FUCK up, dorky ass debate club FAGGOTS.
>>740253214>my boyfriend can fuck me in any positionbit gay innit
>>740290372We're not having a debate.I asked someone to clarify something, and he started crying. Now he won't stop until he gets the last reply, like a child.
>>740290336I literally quoted you and said what your implication is. I've now asked you why you replied with what you did. You have no retort because I was 100% on the mark, I baited you and you're rattled. Now you're desperate for some meta argument (as evidenced by a misquote) to claw back any modicum of a win you can. Fact is, it just shows how desperate you are lmaoYou lost, I won. I accept your concession
>>740290447>I literally quoted youWhen?
>>740290479Why did you reply >I use my thumbs on my keyboard too After I said >>I push buttons with my fingers >>instead of mushing my thumbs over the face of a surface, yes. The answer is: you tried to imply using your thumbs on a keyboard is similar to a controller. However, I already pointed out that it isnt. Now you're eternally going to seethe and be rattled over being baited so easily. You lost, I accept your concession.
>>740252574>like pulling a gunjust fucking say you have never held a gun.there is no way in the world you think controller "trigger" buttons are anything like a trigger on a gun, they are completely fucking different.
>>740290508I asked you to quote my argument.Where is it? Don't be scared. Tell me exactly where you think "my argument" is posted.
>>740289553It's one of the macro buttons.
>>740290615You were baited, and that's that. You fell directly into my trap when you replied>I use my thumbs on my keyboard too After I said >>I push buttons with my fingers >>instead of mushing my thumbs over the face of a surface, yes. The answer is: you tried to imply using your thumbs on a keyboard is similar to a controller. However, I already pointed out that it isnt. I'm that confident in my victory, and this conversion isn't going anywhere because you refuse to elaborate on why you replied how you did, that I will grant you the last word. Knowing how rattled you are, I know you will use this opportunity to continue to lash out. However, I've already unfollowed the thread and I will never see your response. I will go about the rest of my day knowing I baited and owned you, and you'll be ITT seething over your loss. Your master now commands you to demonstrate how rattled you are. Be a good dog and do as commanded.
>>740290696>No quoteCute! Reply again
gay ass faggots, the both of you
Why do people get into arguments they can't win, then cry about it?
