>objectively the bad guys invader literal demon worshippers that bring destruction and violence to prosperous kingdoms>majority of WoWfags' favorite faction that they get defensive aboutis this the first mass bout of thirdworldism in vidya?
Thrall's Horde is the tolerable one. The ones who were made up of struggling races of trolls, orcs, tauren and goblins. Its under Garrosh and Sylvanas that they become the Old Horde 2.0.
>>740254091thrall is cool in vanilla, after that he becomes a bitch
>>740253935There's a lot of dissonance when it comes to the Horde. On one side they're the exiles "just looking for a homeland" and Thrall is green Gandhi, but then their methods are just rape pillage and plunder.It's kind of accepted that they're the evil faction, however, even though Blizz always tries to pretend they're victims of a radical faction within.
>>740254091>Thralls horde>lets send the Warsong back into Ashenvale to piss of the Night Elves (we know they hate this since Wc3)>the same Warsong who killed Cenarius btw>lets ally with the Forsaken, a giant red flag for all the alliance>instead of joining the rest of the horde on Kalimdor, the Frostwolves colonize human land because.... they like it?>they also fight the dwarves over the very human land they stole>lets send a group of people calles DEFILER into the other human kingdom, to... murder and defile shit, i guess?Tolerable, huh?
But literally everything that is wrong in the setting, ALL OF IT, is due to elves. All the bad, reverberating shit that fundamentally fucks everyone and everything in multiple worlds for generations. And the Alliance basically exists just to shield them from being justifiedly killed.
>>740254498I thought that was just an indicator that Thrall barely had control. He may have been the warchief and leader of the largest Horde faction, but the different tribes still had a degree of independence. He didn't want to start a civil war in order to stop them from chimping out.
>>740253935It doesn't matter anymore, the horde is 80% elves now
>>740254498He let undead join as a concession to the tauren, unfortunately the cause was mainly championed by (((Magatha)))
>>740255061thrall isn’t a dindu by that point, he’s no fan of the alliance
>>740255045>the alliance has the Night Elves who reject the magalomaniac ways of their ancient empire>the Horde has the Elves who still live exactly like their old Empire cousins who summoned the demons>the alliance has the high elves who reject the ways of demon energy >the horde has the elves who embrace demon energy Uh-huh, the alliance elves are the problem, huh?
>>740253935>objectively the bad guys invader literal demon worshippers that bring destruction and violence to prosperous kingdomsLiterally just Orks.
>>740253935Comfier leveling experience desu
>>740255157This honestly. Vanilla Horde was based, but they lost their soul when belfs were introduced.
>>740255045blood elves and nightborne are the elves who cause all the problems, tho. Blood elves tried to summon Kil´jaeden and Nightborne allied with Gul Dan to summon Sargeras.
>>740255227>Ha ha we reject the empire!>By choice?>Well no our empire collapsed because we set the Old Gods out on basically everyone, but you know>Right and did you do anything to fix that?>We gave up our immortality!>Before or after there were repercussions for everyone else, mostly you, for your own actions?>Uhhhhhh.
>>740253935I've always seen the Orc, Troll and Tauren influence in the logo, but where does the Undead representation come in? Is it the bones?
>>740255045Elves basically did the same thing Orcs did to their own world but actually managed to save it and have been fighting to improve it ever since
>>740255474Nigga Azshjara made all of that possible and she was the queen of the night elves. And no, you don't get to put on hippie clothes and wash your hands off what your people did just because you changed your name on a whim.
>>740255523you hold the hordes Nightborne to the same standart, right?....right?
>>740255647Obviously?
>>740255646Right, and which side was the highborne upper class of Azsharas empire and which side was the peasantry that rebelled against her?
>>740253935Always was the nigger faction. Just shows how many turdies are on /v/
>>740255810So that matters in the context of night elves being dindus, but not for the other donutsteel elves all of which did the literal same thing towards their respective source of corruption?Either it applies to everyone or it applies to no one.
>>740255640I guess the bones, broken shield thingy, the cloth in the back and the chains
>>740255932it kinda makes a difference if the alliance for the former lower class that had no involvement in the demon summoning of Azshara and the horde got the social elite that was in cahoots with Azshara till it all blew up in their faceOr what is your argument summosed to be? That joe peasant elf in rural darkshore was to blame for the rich and powerful in Zin Aszhari screwing the world?
>got tricked by some demons into being a war machine>turned on the demons and murdered all of them like gigachads at great cost for the sake of their people>no gods, just hope and enduranceHumans just eat spider pie and bug juice and farm mr jebediah's apples or whatever gay shit because life is easy for the super rich and every quest ends in either betrayal or starbux runs, it's Beverly hills.
>>740256179>we wuz tricked and sheeeeeeit!
>>740256169Nowhere in the game is it even implied that Suramar supported the process of Ashzjara's ritual of sea memes, which is exactly why she targets them and why they remain isolated.You seem to just be running on fumes of fanfiction, my dude.
>>740256179>the warsong have been warmongering raiders before the demons came>the blackrock have been warmongering militarists before the demons came>the shattered hand have been warmongering gladiators before the demons came>the bleeding hollow have been warmongering savages before the demons came>the laughing skulls have been warmongering lunatics before the demons cameabout that
>>740256387so now its no longer kill all alliance elves for screwing the world like you said in >>740255045 ? Or does that still somehow apply?
>>740254498Tolerable compared to outright war, slaughtering everything they can. The orcs need lumber, Ashenvale is close. Sure its not logical to antagonize a faction you just fought, but its also illogical to ignore the need for lumber. Letting in the undead was also a bad call as was fighting dwarves.
>>740253935literal dindu faction that only does bad things and cops out whenever the world needs to be saved
>>740256583Of course it does, why are you trying to pull strawmen out of your ass?Kill all elves and any hypocrites that harbour them. Simple as.
>>740256624the whole lumber issue boiled down to Thrall being a retard who wanted to settle in the fucking desert because he thought his people needed to atone.. You know, had they just settled in Mulgore or shit, they wouldnt need to cause additional war and strife just to get by.
>>740256285kekd
>>740255932A solid majority of nelves and the world opposed Azshara, the Highborne and the demonic tide of invasion 10,000 years ago. The entire orcish race destroyed nearly all life on Draenor, then made bones of the victims, or ate them or raped them, then tried to do the same to another world, got repelled back, then blew up whats left of Draenor trying to invade MORE worlds.
I always hated the horde but was forced to play it because my bros were all horde. I just wanted to be a dwarfbro huntard with my trusty Polar Bear Tuggs and my rifle.I was a Troll, which was okay because trolls are kinda based, but I still hated being on horde.
>>740256791Thrall and the real life self inserter retard was the worst thing that happened to blizzard
>>740255178Magatha did nothing wrong.
>>740256791Or he could've just got druids to help jumpstart life in The Barrens so that more trees can grow. Then import actual livestock and farming. But y'know orcs aren't smart.
>>740256773NTA but if that's your stance then why did you bring it up as a point against just the Alliance?
>>740253935>objectively the bad guys invader literal demon worshippers that bring destruction and violence to prosperous kingdoms20 years ago maybe. Today its the tranny faggot faction - so is the Alliance.
>>740256791>settle in the desert to atone>make everyone else pay the costs of atonement when it gets inconvenient Honestly, this would be genius writing if it was intentional.I've met people who were this performative, deceptive, and really fucking stupid when trying to play people.
>hate playing horde>favorite class is priest>your main CC is hardcountered by 40% of the horde faction>if you're not undead, no devouring plague, which is extremely powerful in 1v1sRacials need really big nerfs
>>740257159I think its interesting because there were many orcs born in the camps who had no frame of reference for what the Old Horde did. Thrall himself being one of them, but he was also raised as a slave by humans. Garrosh is another one and hes older than Thrall by a good decade but he becomes more like an orc of the Old Horde after Northrend. I mean imagine knowing suffering in a concentration camp for what your parents did, then having to move to a shithole desert for what your parents did.
>>740253935>bla bla bla yap yapI'm just here for the elf pussy.
>>740254498>>instead of joining the rest of the horde on Kalimdor, the Frostwolves colonize human land because.... they like it?>they also fight the dwarves over the very human land they stoleCorrection: The Frostwolf Orcs moved into the valley to escape the demonic horde influence and live in peace, go back to their shamanistic routes. Although technically in territory of the Human Kingdom of Alterac, the valley itself was utterly un-settled by humans because it was too harsh for them. Even the Frost trolls that lived there didnt clash with the Frostwolves, they co-existed in relative peaceMEANWHILE that same King of Alterac worked WITH the Horde to guide them through the mountains and help them attack northern human settlements. The kingdom was thoroughly dismantled by the rest of the alliance in retribution and they could never agree on who to hand control of the kingdom to so it was left to rot.By the time the Stormpikes show up, it should be well and truly Frostwolf clan territory.
>>740254091If they had just stuck to the stonetalon mountains version of Garrosh, he'd have been the best warchief the Horde had ever known.Sylvanas was always a terrible warchief though.
>>740258142Nigga it's not even been a long enough time for squatters' rights to set in by the time the fighting over it begins
tranny game generals belong in /vg/
>>740258341That version of Garrosh might've been the best if he genocided or ostracized The Forsaken after finding out how Sylvanas is using val'kyr to replenish her numbers.
>>740260010dumbass
>>740260358tranny
>>740253935I dont care post whitemane
>wow thread died at 207 post
>>740260928>hair is clearly grey so the white mane of her is...?
>>740261026nobody cares about this dead troon gamethat's why you fags have to keep spamming new threads every hour
>>740260890>>740261092this is about warcraft lore not WoW take your sensitive ass back to the other site
Do people still /spit on the fox people?
Horde is literally the faction for White people.Alliance is the brown third-world tranny faction.
>>740261118>nooo leave my safe space alone!!!KEKAROO
>>740261118They always find excuses to spam huh
>>740261251I don't even play WoW I just follow the lore developments, I play Warcraft 3 weekly thoughso your schizophrenia about wow is wastedcalm down
>>740261158actually, both factions are the tranny faction. because it's a tranny game made by activision microsoft trannies
>>740261251>vegetarianJesus christ
>>740261339>tranny tranny tranny tranny tranny tranny tranny tranny tranny tranny tranny tranny tranny tranny just go on hormones already u obsessed retard
>>740261414>wowtroon already trying to groom peopledisgusting subhuman
>>740261456you're only grooming yourself by thinking about trannies 24/7, that's how half of them become that
>>740261456it blows my mind that despite the state retail has been in there are still people who vehemently defend brand, i tend to entirely forget about it until i see random posts from wowforums
>>740261497why would i want to become something i hate? delusional loony troon
>>740261456So these are the people saying OTHER GAME is full of cultists huh?
>>740261597because you hate what you are, that's extremely common actually, ever heard of how the most overtly homophobic macho types end up as closet homos all along? same thing, keep thinking about trannies related to every single thing 24/7 and you might just become one
>>740253935Seriously tho, what about Taurajo?
>>740261725Doesnt say faggot, i refuse any arguements from you.
>>740261816Theramore was the military port responsible for importing literally all the Alliance materiel present in the Barrens and pretty important target for the Horde. Also most of these are either Sylvanas' fault and thus dont matter (per Blizzard, as much as I wish she got the Garrosh treatment) or done by Garrosh who 360 suicided himself out of the story.
>>740253935>line up
>>740253935>it's another self-inserting allytroon cope threadYou can cope and seethe and wail and thrash all you want but all those world firsts will always belong to the horde. They are objectively the better players.
>>740261339>>740261456>>740261597>digging extensively through reddit and the wow forums for anything LGBT related then saving it
No. It was just a video game. You see back then not everything was political. Not many people were politically pickled, like you are.Anyways, Aliiance is for faggot who want to RP as Legolas.
>>740261725>most overtly homophobic macho types end up as closet homos all alongit's an old lie lmao. also using homophobic... get the fuck back from whatever echo chamber hugbox you've crawled from, freak
>>740262235>noooo how dare you not be as ignorant as i amnerve status: hit
What went so wrong?
>>740262283>Aliiance is for faggot who want to RP as Legolas.blood elves are a horde race ALTHOUGHBEIT
>>740262052https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIA_Cqd1M68
>Kill everything on your own planet>Eventually fuck up so bad the entire thing starts crumbling into space and shit>Bro let us stay on your planet stop oppressing us we were only trying to kill you before because we thought it was gonna work
>>740262339>Hires nearly exclusively fans or people who want Blizzard on their resume for years, then added in DEI to the mix>Because they will accept shit pay>Turns out the fans with actual talent will go to any other studio because they pay better.>So blizzard only ends up with Yes Men, Fan Fic tier writers, DEI coders, and activists who want to use the Blizzard name as a platformThat is how.
>>740262587damn blizzard predicted europe
STOP MAKING JEET BLIZZARD THREADS
>>740262339oh i know the answer to this one!"nothing wow is still the best mmo on the market you're just a hivtroon"
>>740262339No idea.
>>740256449WoD is not canon.
>>740262753yeah and the maghar in the horde all came out of your ass. keep coping
>>740262181the better players due to being shutin autists yeah, alliance chads play other games not just WoW
>>740262820and i'm sure you suck at those games too
>>740262293yes its a word in the english language even though its a bit too long for you, and it's not an old lie if you went outside you'd see it for yourself stop talking about trannies 24/7 faggot
I love female tauren.
>>740262820Fox and the grapes moment.
>>740262941not a furry game btw
>>740262941Same
>>740262941this but pandaren
>people playing orcs are actually brownthen what does that say about you and your female human/elf?
Shortstacks
>>740254091They team up with the Undead and let them torture the living from their own faction
>>740264775kek
Ahn Qiraj
>>740260928ok
>>740253935The Horde should have remained Orc-Troll-Tauren. Then they should also have Goblins and Ogres.Blood Elves and Forsaken should be their own faction with other darker ones like Broken Draenei, Naga or Worgen.I always wanted factions to be >Good - Alliance>Bad - Illidan's faction from TFT + Sylvanas' Forsaken>Ugly - HordeNot really sure where to put Night Elves.
>>740264603idk i was an dumb edgy teenager so I naturally made an undead male
>>740254091The orcs were destroying the world's forests from the moment they arrived on Azeroth, killing anyone who stood in their way. The Forsaken were doing their whole torturing and experimenting shtick all the way in vanilla.
>>740262339>they managed to even make the elves uglysasuga
>>740261339nooo but it's only tranny devs the actual playerbase is very based and redpilled
>>740265557Making Sylvanas' Forsaken outright bad guys would be absolute retardation. Them being allied with the Horde is what makes them a compelling faction because you know they're constantly on the edge of being too evil and getting kicked out and that they're having to endlessly balance doing good for the Horde or just being their natural asshole selves.
>>740268051Nah, not outright evil. Just emo-evil. No one gets me. I am my scars. We're slaves to this torment. We're cursed. We have sacrificed everything. We were betrayed. That kind of things.
First we castrate the taurens forcefully
>>740253935The defias should've won. The setting would've been much cooler if they overthrew the stormwind nobility and plunged the kingdom of azeroth into chaos.
>>740257029>druids>willingly changing the environment on a massive scaleIm not an expert on wow druids but that doesnt seem like something they would do when they were already unwilling to trade the orcs wood.
>>740269154Defias are just a labor union who got shit canned. Instead of moving on and finding work they became hellbent on overthrowing a kingdom while their people starved in a cave.
>>740269503And it would've been a more interesting story if they had won.
>>740269802you're just saying that cause you wanna goon to vanessa
>>740253935in 2007 elves and women were gay so alliance was for gay pussys and horde was for straight white mennow being a coomer gooner is based so the alliance is the better faction
>>740269897Well I'm talking about vanilla wow so sorry but I'm not into lolicon.Although seeing what would become of vanessa in that timeline would be cool and adult vanessa is hot.Sadly vanessa is a retcon and in the timeline where blizz decided to go down that path I doubt vanessa would exist.
>>740253935azeroth belongs to forsaken
>>740269324Just have some wisp extract infinite wood for free, what's the issue?The Elves and Orcs were allies against the demons, why not share?
>>740270005so that's why alli was the go to faction back then and now everyone is on horde?
>>740262941Me too.
>>740253935Alliance>Humans>Dwarves>Gnomes>High ElvesHorde>Orcs>Tauren>Trolls>Night ElvesCoven>Forsaken>Blood Elves>Goblins>all the stupid "dark" versions of the other racesThis is what it should have been. The Orcs are the defining Horde race and their culture was supposed to be in touch with nature and a bit violent but as part of a "cycle of life", using all parts of the animal you've killed type of thing.Alliance are pro-humanism over being pro-nature, prioritizing improving quality of life through technology, economic development and magic.Coven or Evil Guys are like Alliance in that they care more about themselves than nature, but have no restraint.There, it's fixed.
>>740275653Alternatively we don't just lazily shove every race together simply because they're similar and instead allow for some contrast between its members.You sound like you belong on the modern WoW writing team with that sort of thought process, I'll admit.
>>740273424Then when shit in their womens mul'gore bread
>>740269324There are troll and tauren druids on the side of the horde or in the Cenarion Circle. Information can be passed down, pupils can be trained, work can be done.
>>740276158You okay, chief?
