>they made Half-Life not Doom!Is that supposed to be a problem?
>>740280625How the hell is it Half-Life, if the game sucks major ass
HL2 aged like cheese covered in piss in the sun.Doom 3 aged like fine wine
>>740280816Both of them aged like rotten cheese filled with maggot
>>740280625if i shat on your face when i said id give you a dollar would that be a problem?
>>740280851Sardinian delicacy
>>740280851how come people still want to play Doom 3 every year and its popularity keeps growing.Meanwhile no one gives a fuck about HL2 and its popularity keeps falling.The only thing that could save HL2 from irrelevancy is a total remake and reboot.
Why the hell are there so many Doom 3 contrarians. That game was horseshit when it was released, still is. Everyone rightfully called out how terrible it was, and how it played nothing like Doom 1 or 2. Is it literally just trolls?
>>740281054Who are these people that you're referring to?
>>740281070because its not contrarianism. The only people that hate it are valve fanboys. And a bunch of hipsters born after its release that think every doom game should be pixel shit
>>740280625If they added physic based puzzles it would've been a 10/10
>>740281070It's literally one guy who makes these threads and samefags. He's going to post some Tumblr links soon.
>>740281070>Everyone rightfully called out how terrible it wasNo one did this. It was always considered good.
>>740281115So you're saying the only people who hate the game are true Doom fans, none zoomers, and fans of actual good games. Thanks for clarifying
>>740280625SHouldn't you be making a Fallout 3 thread?
>>740281191No. They are posers, just like you.
>>740281276>live the original two Dooms>don't like 3 because it's nothing like Doom>called a poser>?????>profit
reminder that valve fanboys have been screeching about Doom 3 before the game even released. They were terrified of it 1 upping Half Life 2.They have been seething at it ever since, you used to be able to read the threads on the old valve forums.
I dunno nigga, never played doom the 3rd only the first one.
>>740281328but anon i also like the original Doom.
>>740281436If you did, then you'd know why 3 was an insult to the series
>>740281485No. Not everyone is a faggot like you. I love Doom 3
>>740280625not bothering to read the crowd of fags in this thread, game was fun when I was a kid.
>>740281530Then you're a faggot, liar, contrarian, or a mix of the three
>>740281276>YOUR NOT A TRUE FAN UNLESS YOU EAT SHIT AND SUCK DOWN PISS AND CUM ALL DAY FROM SHIT DEVELOPERS WHO RAPE THE ORIGINAL LIKE ME THE REAL SHIT EATER FAN LORD CHUDS!
>>740281558you are a faggot hipster. You just think oldest goodest newest bad because you have no personality.
>>740281571>you are not a true fan unless you only like the first game in the series and hate every new ga,e
>>740281606older games are better and newer games are dogshit made for stupid niggers like you faggot, go back to your Saros sar and fuck off.
>>740281054I like doom 3 but you should get checked
>>740281641Yes. This but unironically
>>740281651fuck off back to your containment board /vr/igger. No one has to agree with your autistic bitching you faggot
>>740281731thats cruise control for people afraid to have opinions
>>740281606New is badOld is goodGlad we finally agree
If you squint, Half Life's story is like Doom
>>740281791Hey you said it, not me. I'm just agreeing with you
>>740281793and Doom 3 is old, its also older than Doom eternal lol kys you freak
>>740281825anon is mocking your opinion you dumb reddit ngr learn to green txt
>>740281742tell me why the shit game is good then you stupid fucking faggot, no your not allowed to use mods or patches from 20 years later either, explain why dark nigger can't see shit dogshit straight line is as good or better than the originals, i'll fucking wait cuck.
>>740281830Doom 1 is older than 3Doom 1 and 2 is old3 is new
>>740281883Why did you expose yourself this fast?
>>740281558Nudoom isn't even doom, they just wanted to milk the ip. In that sense comparisons to the old games make no sense because they share nothing mechanically
>>740281889you are too immature and low iq zoomer to get it. You don't like games, and can't appreciate good games.
>>740281964Nigga, when the fuck did I bring up nuDoom? Why are you shitting the bed this hard?
>>740281973Answer him cuck
>>740280816Half Life 2 is still one of the best games ever made. In VR it's THE best games ever made
>>740281973not an argument retard, explain why universally agreed bad game is actually good and your stupid nigger ass somehow gleamed the gem in this tedious piece of shit.
>>740281889Super Turbo Turkey Puncher 3 Considering how the series would later end up, it was ahead of it's time.
>/vr/ faggots trying to argue Doom 1&2 etc were masterpieces>they were simplistic and not even as advanced as Marathon on Mac.Pc fags never played Marathon so they never got to experience the superior "old school" shooter.
>>740282005Idk I saw you guys were arguing about new bad old good and this is a doom thread so I assumed that it was implied to be part of the conversation
>>740282031its a garbage fps game>>740282037>universally agreedyou are a redditor, just consensus chasing behaviour
>>740282114nah this retard is arguing that doom 3 is good, even if you don't like nudoom aka bad painkiller, its nowhere close to as shit as doom 3.
>>740282142you hl2 fagboys really run out of arguments just having a tantrum because you are a faggot and a retard.
>>740282141>buzzwordsi'll accept your surrender bitch. thanks for admitting i won.
>>740282080>Marathon>System Shock if it was badHow's that new Marathon game by the way? I'm sure you love it
>>740282195you are a tiny little baby bitch low iq faggot
why are /vr/iggers allowed to constantly raid the video game board.They just spam the same retarded ngr posts in every fucking thread>oldest goodest! newest baddest!
>>740282080Simplistic isn't bad if it's done well within its constraints. Western designers/non retarded consumers still somehow conflate with amount of shit dumped onto the player with being a good game which has never been true. That's why you can play a jap game from the 90s and easily enjoy it while the western pc classics suck ass to play today for anybody but grew up on them. Doom not included because it didn't get roped into the complicated systems meme
>>740282296>assblasted this hard he has to samefagkek
Do you think OP is getting paid to defend a game from 20 years ago this much, or is he doing it because he's lonely and craves (you)s
>>740281186Barring the decades of jokes at Doom 3's expense.
>>740281070It was a great tech demo for id tech lighting tho
>>740282356no op is literally the fag attacking the game, this is his bait thread because hes a tard
>>740282361the only people that badly reviewed it was ign for being too scary. And those faggots do that to every horror game because they are basedboys.
>>740282296It always hits a nerve without fail so posts like these only serve to perpetuate it. Imo you need nostalgiafags to keep the balance in check even if they're not always right or this board would fully just be paid marketing for the latest indieslop
>>740282080Trap this nigga in the colony ship for sale cheap chamber
>>740282361It's called parody, dude. That doesn't mean we didn't like it. The culture wars really did a number on the psychology of your generation, didn't it?
I enjoyed doom 3 more than 1 and 2. 3 was a spooky horror experience. 1/2 are outdated sprite shooters
>>740282319yet Fo1 is the superior rpg because it has a complex rpg system.Doom is simplistic even in comparison to its contemporaries. Its just a shoot em up where you find key cards.Its a cool game but cool doesnt mean good. Marathon was not only technically more superior it had better gameplay and an actual narrative.Then we got Quake and Unreal.Are the /vr/ats spamming this thread going to argue Quake is bad because its 3d or Unreal which was a 10/10 game with the best graphics at the time, is that a bad game? Of course they would they are pixel slop hipsters
>>740282471you seem more riled up that people love Doom 3. Yet you keep posting these bait threads /vr/ tard.You haven't changed anyones mind by autistically having a tantrum you retard.
>>740282663also to add HL2 is is many ways less advanced than these games.It has less guns and enemies, it has awkward design decisions and its simplistic itself. Not to mention it fucking rips off these games to boot. Valve fanboys trying to claiming its original is a joke.
never beat it. i made it to the part where you have to ride a shuttle thing, and i couldn't figure out what to do.
>>740280625It's only good in VR
>>740282904lol
the only weak element in Doom 3 i'll concede is the final boss. It's a bit gimmicky and seems like a designed for consoles thing.But everything else is the game is absolute perfection. It feels like you are in a horror movie, the atmosphere and immersion is as good as Diablo 1.
>>740280625You little contrarian faggots deserve the noose, D3 sucked compared to previous ID shooters and it sucked compared to other contemporary shooters like HL2/Halo/etcID went from making a masterpiece shooter in Q3A to a slow horror/shooter abomination with guns that sound and feel like ass
>>740282663Well again, it's this obsession people have with complicated systems. I won't ever be able to convince someone that wide as an ocean deep as a puddle is good just because it's wide, you just get a headache learning everything and then it's boring because it feels like the devs were forgetting that their job was to make it fun
>>740280625>Is that supposed to be a problem?It is when you're a lil' boomer excited to play a Doom 3 when one of your formative experiences in life was seeing Doom 1 shareware running and going WIAOW. Still enjoyed Doom 3 then and appreciate it now, but it never scratched the Doom itch like 2016 and Eternal did
>>740281070>Everyone rightfully called out how terrible it was,No they didn't lmao. It got stellar reviews and the only consistent, major complaint about it was swapping to your flashlight. Which the duct tape mod quickly fixed. It was slated for Shooter of the Year until Half-Life 2 dropped a couple months later.Hell, my only complaint about it at launch was that my PC wasn't powerful enough for it.
>>740281889Pros>great introduction to UAC Mars facility>amazing build up to demon invasion >incredible, immersive atmosphere. Especially if you play in the dark with surround sound>was fun unraveling events leading up to invasion via UAC staff journals / emails (reminiscent of System Shock games)>demon redesigns were great, Bethesda/iD still uses DOOM 3's Hell Knight design>guns were almost all great and functional and unique>actually felt like you were facing Hell with all the satanic chanting and macabre, gore strewn ritual sites throughout the game>good progression of power through finding weapons>Super Turbo Turkey Puncher 3Cons>flashlight>shotgun spread was too big>chaingun felt underwhelming>Cyberdemon fight was a bit of a letdown>relied a little too much on jumpscares>ancient martian ruins felt a little rushed
>>740285589i differ from a lot of people in that the flashlight isn't a big deal to me. I found it trivial to switch but the real reason is the fact you don't even need it to complete the game. The entire game can be completed with just the light from projectiles
>>740280816>Doom 3 aged like fine wineYeah, into vinegar.
>>740285589>>740284805>He actually hates the flashlight mechanic which the biggest scare factor in the gameActually filtered. You didnt get it, it flew over your head.
>>740281070>have no access to the internet>play doom 3 on hardest difficulty>enjoy it>go talk to my friend about it>he talks about how its too dark and he cant see anything which makes it almost unplayable to him because he could get attacked at any time which is too stressful>go on the internet, internet agrees>internet also complaining about how its not like doom 1&2>"you see now... if you use math skills and apply that to doom 1&2 then you can deduce that doom man can run at 500 miles per hour and kick at 10k tons force pf pressure which makes him similar to superman, yet doom 3 is just a regular guy? my expectations are subverted and my day is ruined! if they wanted a realistic doom game they should make doom man more marvel!"and ever since then i have assumed all doom 3 haters were retarded.
>hl2 modding scene just died>Doom 3 modding scene is still going and its actually grownExplain this HL2 fanboys? you can't.
>>740286119The other funny thing is Doom 3 has all these texture and graphics remaster modsBut in the HL2 community any attempt to improve the graphics gets the modder death threats lol
>>740285930>and ever since then i have assumed all doom 3 haters were retardedI reached the same conclusion
>>740283383this is the same reason why crusader kings 3 is more fun than 2
>>740283383The fact of the matter is high iq people like complex games. Games have been dumbed down to appeal to wider audiences.Is Doom a dumb game? It was high iq to make and thats one of the reasons i think people love it.But it's a simple game, it's a very arcadey shoot em up.Praising classic Doom is kinda like praising pong or tetris. Hell they even taught a bunch of braincells to play Doom in a lab, So it doesn't require a fully functional brain to masterYou can
>>740285589Why did the flashlight filter so many people? Catching glimpses of enemies flanking you via muzzleflash was kino
>duct tape mod you didn't play the game.
>>740280806DOOM 3 is more imsim than survival horror
>>740281130they put a gravity gun in the expansion pack and Carmack was genuinely going>yeah guys we totally already had the gravity gun for debugging but decided it would clash with our vision for doom 3
The intro still gives chills. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1N2Iloi6nEDoom 3 was basically a survival horror game like Resident evil but in first person.
