What's an open world that actually works?
>>740281354If you're not a shitter, pic related.
>>740281354Morrowind. /thread
>>740281354vanilla wow is unironically a really good example of how to do open world.>not completely aimless but enough freedom to choose your route>not an empty wasteland, you will always find shit to do>no fast travel but there are flying taxis at quest hubs to make things less tedious without making the world feel small, with scenery created specifically for you to look at while flying>tons of small details and hidden quests
>>740283024>can I go to location X, Y or Z now?>no, if you go there you die, you can't take quests and there's nothing to do yet, go to location A or B instead
>>740283024>WoW>open worldgod I hate wowtroons so much
>>740283024You are completely fucking retarded.
>>740283107>>740283135NTA, but ironically retail is more open world than Vanilla. Everything has gay level scaling, and you can jump from expansion to expansion like a schizo. You can be level 80 doing Westfall.
>>740281354This is one of the worst open worlds ever though even if I quite like the game. The mountains everywhere turn everything into a corridor, was it because of techincal limitations that they had to block everything off?
>>740283024based takeWoW and some other first gen mmos got it rightThe game naturally directions you through it but does not force you to stay on the path. There are multiple zones for each level bracket and you can swap around which ones want to do freely.Games that try to give you rpg mechanics but also scale everything to you are stupid and don't work
>>740282596I can't even walk outside anymore because women think I'm a rapist for walking on the same sidewalk as them
>>740283386None of that matters when the world itself isn't fun to explore, gives you nothing of value for exploring it, and your main method of interacting with it is doing horrible MMO quests.
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>>740283591>None of that matters when the world itself isn't fun to explore, gives you nothing of value for exploring itwrong
>>740281354>african icon
>>740281354Watch_Dogs was a decent open world game. (as far as the city design was considered, could've used more content, that level of detail + increased mission density would be good enough.)
>>740282596>paywall for everything>half the map is inaccessible anywayNo.
>>740281354Shadow of the colossus.Morrowind.Open world has two genuine applications:>Pretending that there is more gameplay than just a bossrush by making the player traverse everywhere instead of just selecting levels from a list>Finding somewhere to put the lore from your Mescaline trip that demands audience participation before people figure out you are a crazy homeless manEverything else either departs from being an open world or it is just ruthless padding either to bamboozle your boss who thinks you have actually been working on something for the last 4 years or to bamboozle your audience into thinking that 1 hour of actual content is worth 80$.
>>740283893You are completely full of shit if you think people were ignoring quests early on.
>>740283712>isn't fun to exploreCheck.>gives you nothing of value for exploring itAlso check. It took until what, fucking WoD? To find actual equipment and bonus items lying around in the world.
>>740281354Farcry 2 is my fave but the spawning checkpoints is annoying.
>>740281354The Yakuza games but they're more of a hub world than an open worldn
>>740283024Vanilla WoW is the greatest open world map of all time.>>740283107retard>>740283135faggot>>740283167retard>>740283591retard
>>740284438You cannot go somewhere higher level than you, retrieve something useful to you, and then come back to other zones with an advantage. You can't really do anything in higher level zones to begin with. There is minimal value to going to a zone under your level when you're not directed there by a quest. Instant failure at being a good open world.
>>740284258There's tons of hidden quests in vanilla.
>>740284667Doing more quests is NOT a fucking reward.
>>740284684>i dont like questing therefore it doesn't count
>>740284715Yes. Questing is dogshit quality content.
>>740283432skill issue
>>740284742It's a fucking mmo, why even play it if you hate questing and grinding?
>>740284834Because there are parts of the game that aren't either of those, there were MMOs before WoW that had no meaningful questing, and there were MMOs before WoW where the grinding was vastly lower in quantity? Stop assuming WoW is the exact form MMOs are supposed to take. That game sucked.
>>740281354Ghost Recon Wildlands. It's only open world formula game, where the formula actually works for the kind of game it is. It's also the only game that feels like someone making it actually cared for the game. >you can turn off the hud and things like meme tagging enemies and your squad mates will still count the enemies out loud, that you're spotting through binoculars >MC as well comments on collectibles in the immediate area, so you're not being punished for turning off floating markers >an open world for a shooter, that actually somehow feels more real and alive than open world rpgs >guards actually having different schedules, like them all going to the cantina at 6pm for example >each "state" in Bolivia having different visuals >the copy pasted activities are kept to a minimum and for the most part you just work on killing/kidnapping high ranking cartel membersPlus, playing on extreme or ghost mode(permadeath), it actually feels intense as fuck in encounters, and becomes an actual tactical shooter, as it's supposed to be. Because you're going down just as quickly as the enemies. It's the only game I've played so far where I actually felt the ubislop formula actually worked and made sense. Because it doesn't promise you this "amazing huge world" to explore, but rather just sets you into an open world to do a job in, anyway you like.
>>740284980>there were MMOs before WoW that had no meaningful questing, and there were MMOs before WoW where the grinding was vastly lower in quantity?lmao what fucking mmo was not a grindfest?
Open world games are at their best when you play as a character with superpowers and fun traversal options.Infamous, Prototype, Gravity Rush and the better superhero games for this like Spider-Man. Too bad they don't make many of those anymore.
>>740285146You didn't actually need 100 in a skill to do stuff in UO
>>740281354Certainly not Far Cry 2, that's for damn sure.
>>740281354pretending late 00s slop for the lowest common denominator is some masterpiece now is one of my favorite younger millennial/older zoomer narrativenone of you played any of these games of course
>>740281354>all those mountains to hide shitty LOD on a 360lel
>>740282637Morrowind is one of the gold standards, yeah, because where you go and what area you operate in can change your experience completely. Game's not shy about giving you powerful gamechanging rewards and secret loot if you explore an area enough.
>>740285146Graal
>>740283815>>half the map is inaccessible anywayjust get underwater breathing bro
