>Zero cultural impactWhat went wrong
soulless sloppa
How can a zelda game be soulless
>>740289902you dad didnt beat you hard enough growing up
>>740290149Or he beat his head which lowered his IQ further
>>740289902Let me guess, after the other 2 threads got deleted you had to make this one to 'own the tendies'?No but seriously, how do you let this game live rent free in your head for so long?Just play some fucking videogames already.
Looks like the Nintendo Defense Force has arrived
>>740290210does this nigger really remake these threads every 4-5 days? obsessed
>>740290315looks like the niggerfaggot op is back in his thread
>>740289902It was just botw again and didnt improve upon anything or fix any issues with botw
>>740290332He has been doing it for literal years lmaoNever seen games assrape people as much as BOTW and TOTK, it's insane
>>740290210Mindbroken
>>740289902it was too much for the average normie brain to handle.
>>740289902People woke up from the hypnosis Nintendo had them from the first gameTurns out throwing out the design elements that carried your franchise for 30 years doesn't work out in the long run
>>740290653Real life isn't your 4chin echo chamber
>>740290315I'm sorry, was having cultural impact supposed to be constructive criticism?
>>740289902everyone already played botw
Skyward Sword was literally the last real Zelda game Ocarina formula is true Zelda
>>740289902Everything.
good morining sirocariina is truest zelda sir
>>740290873Wrong game
>>740289902It's the best Zelda game, so the Zelda cycle dictates we hate it until the next entry.
>>740290873Fake Zelda game like BOTW
>>740291621Nope, same shit. TOTK is literally just DLC of BOTW.
>>740289902>what if botw but again, this time with more pointless shit that is only good for memesGee I wonder
>>740289902Nintendo died with this game
>>740291798I wish that was actually true
>>740289902I hope the next game is more like Totk
>>740292365Same
>>740290518max when a game doesnt involve spamming buttons like a monkey on a typewriter
>>740289902What cultural impact had Majora's Mask
>>740289902it was a really fucking good gameone of the only experiences this decade i can actually remember well
>>740293086Majora's Mask is probably too avant-garde for any actual cultural impact but it's definitely one of those "your favorite artists favorite artist" kind of things
>>740293086
>>7402930863 things come to mind. The freaky moon face. The groundhogs day structure of the game that was reused in games like FFXIII Lightning Returns (not saying theyre good but MM definitely inspired many other games). AND BEN FUCKING DROWNED
>>740289902the story was fucking shit. why did they retcon all the sheikah stuff out. the new zonai aesthetic looks terrible and having zelda play damsel again instead of having her own gameplay sections was a major missed opportunity. why rehash the memory system for exposition when that was the most criticised part of BOTW
>>740292365Irrelevant? Me too.
>>740293164What a sad decade. Were you released from prison right before it came out?
>>740293164did you complete BotW first?
>>740293615way before totk came out yeah
>>740289902>nintendo's first $70 game>basically a BOTW expansion pack>took an entire console gen to releaseThat's what went wrong.
>>740289902Hopefully they continue iterating on this formula, it has a lot of potential
>>740290491Yeah but they spent 7 years getting bogged down tweaking the physics engine. That counts right?There's no need to design content if you build some construction tools, right?
>>740289902aonuma really thought he could get away with doing BOTW again and get free GOTY awards from cucks, tendies and journos
>>740293384>why rehash the memory system for exposition when that was the most criticised part of BOTWBecause Aonuma refuses to listen to criticism ever since BotW got big. Go look at how there's still no grid system for selecting items when that would alleviate a lot of the selection issues (Even worse in EoW) even if you can sort them by usage now, he added even more Koroks instead of just wiping the map of them once you got your final upgrade just as a middle finger, while they did add more of a reason to fight camps for their drops it's still not exactly worth it just like BotW, there's still no way to repair weapons instead you just elongate their use period, there's still an armor limit despite having even more Amiibos, puzzles are still open-ended, and on and on.EoW was heavily affected by his dumbass mindset of needing everything to be free because all puzzles feel half-baked and unfinished due to how freeform they are. Giving the player a bed immediately was also possibly the stupidest thing I've ever seen since it invalidates 95% of the entire Echo list.>>740294026It's got potential but the criticisms need to be listened to. It needs to be more restrictive (I.e. do not give the player everything to explore the map ASAP), there need to be brand new maps and races each time, Koroks as a concept need to go or at the very least get addressed, and they should only do one like every three to four traditional Zelda releases. I don't see the formula being sustainable if it's not on 5+ year intervals, people will get burnt out so badly and this formula is way easier to deja vu on because of its length and structure, not to mention many more devs are doing it now so it's not as novel.
>>740294236>It's got potential but the criticisms need to be listened to.What criticisms? I never see anything that that should actually listen to.
>>740294168And did, just not from Sony affiliates.
>>740294236>they should stagnate the series againthis is why no one should listen to you chuckle fucks
>>740294168The game was finished in 2022 but didn't want to get embarrassed by Elden Ring. Instead only to get BTFO by Gaydur's Gate 3.
>>740289902It was just BOTW again with new gimmicks.
>>740289902It’s basically a fan mod of botw but worse You can tell it was made for the purpose of marketing >what if we made botw but made it suitable for short form video content It was made for TikTok’s of le wacky inventions
>>740294994It only stagnated because Aonuma got so handholdy with TP and SS that everyone revolted. You couldn't even die in TP, it was basically impossible, and SS had Fi. Even ALBW wasn't that difficult and despite being open you could rent everything and immediately go and grab multiple Heart Pieces to trivialize the game.What makes you think the BotW formula won't cause stagnation when open world formulas are far more prone to it? It's much harder to iterate on it or think up new gimmicks, especially if newer games won't be able to reuse older content like TotK did. As it is people were complaining about the map reuse in TotK.
>>740295225It stagnated because it became formulaic and every game was the same with a different aesthetic and a new gimmick attached. I'm glad Aonuma isn't going back to linear slop.
>>740290518now I see why so many retards hated it, filtered by the simplest of puzzles
>>740295548>It stagnated because it became formulaicand why did it become formulaic? Because it got extremely handholdy due to them not trusting the player. SS was the straw that broke the camel's back because of Fi and her constant interruptions. People clearly still want the traditional formula, just look at how popular Dusk is right now.
>>740289902>>740290210>>740290332The sad thing is that this is the OP because without ragebait modern Zelda threads die lmao
>>740290210Buck broken Snoy meltie
>>740295776Those are your threads though
>>740295864I'm saying the OP (not me) who's making these threads is the seetherI like BotW more than TotK thoughbeit
>>740290210And he can't even drum up enough interest from defenders or haters to get the threads to the bump limit? Kind of proving his point there.
>>740290125Because it isn't a Zelda game.
>>740292192Your wish is granted
Turns out Roblox Zelda was a shitty idea because Zelda fans want a Zelda game and Roblox kids are just gonna keep playing Roblox
Nintendo are for brainless toddlers with no standards. Sony actually appeals to- pardon, Dudebros are no longer welcome?
>>740295645>and why did it become formulaic?because they kept trying to recreate Ocarina of Time over and over and over and over. Only by breaking away from those conventions did they achieve overwhelming success.
>>740296592>ubisoftifying Zelda is... LE GOOD because it was successful
>>740289902I don't understand how anyone can play this game and say it's a masterpiece >help this dude hold the sign for the 80th time and get 20 ruppees as a reward>lol le band can't make it to the fairy, help them so you can unlock useless upgrades that are useless because the game is piss easy>empty as fuck dark world>same boring structure as botw>fragmented garbage story where the cutscenes are missable collectiblesI traded it at Cex after 20 hours of gametime and got skyward sword, much better game
>>740296671Is the Ubisoftifying in the room with us now?
>>740296703The official Nintendo walkthrough doesn't even tell you to bother with hudson signs, tard. The people who made the game's stance is that you're not supposed to do them "80 times" so if you're doing them it's on you.
>>740290125Not Zelda and not a game.>>740295032>games finishing ahead of schedule when produced by delaybayashi or delayonuma>>740294994The series stagnated because they became too incompetent to develop it, because for some reason office politics wanted Aonuma at the helm even when he openly hated the series and wanted to do literally anything else.They switched the formula after Twilight Princess and have been making the same game with minor content additions ever since.
>>740296703You are unironically playing the game wrong, which is impressively retarded.Only 1 of these complaints has any validity.
>>740296772>this excuseLmao, so you're telling me i'm supposed to know to ignore game content instead of the devs actually gradually rewarding the player for doing more of it? What kind of cope is this? Also nice of you to pick only one point and ignore the other ones, you're still wrong btw, like you wer with Korok rewards
>>740296835How am i playing the game wrong?
>>740296703this, plus they made dungeons even worse somehow
>>740296938Playing it like you need to do every tiny chore the game offers you. You are supposed to do what you want to do
>>740296772So you should buy the guide book to tell you not to do boring shit because it never offers anything of value?
>>740297048>You aren't actually supposed to play the game broThat's a new one
They should have made it multi-player and live service. Kids would play it together forever.
>>740290518How did retard manage puzzles in the older games? Has he even played any older games?
>>740297090Anything you do outside of the main quest is optional. If you find it boring to build 80 hudson signs then guess what? You don't have to!
>>740297048why are you hand waving away bad side content? the side quests are also mmo tier shit and there's barely any story, the game is sitting at a 97 on metacritic and it's not even close to thatThe combat is still braindead easy and the weapons still have the same animations>big rock clubs swing the same as a sword and a spearUpgrades and progression is non existent because you earn them all in the tutorial area, the enemy variety is still piss poor, the UI still looks like soulless shit, the music is background garbage atmospheric garbage, menus are still a pain in the ass to scroll through, shrines are still a lazy way to integrate unique puzzles into the world and gameplay>dood just make a separate dimension with level editor tier puzzlesThe game is weak sauce, face it
>>740297048Why is it even in the game if you're not meant to interact with it?
>>740297257hey retard, the game should reward you for doing side content when it's presented to you, if it doesn't and it's useless filler, then it's useless filler and the game should be docked points for it, kys already nintendo drone
>>740297302Some people do want to interact with it, and they aren't complaining. Just the guys who don't want to do it but force themselves too anyway.>>740297310It does. It gives you money (there is plenty of things to use rupees on) and food, which saves you some time cooking anyway. But if you just want to grind money selling gems or whatever you can do that instead.
>>740297442>Some people do want to interact with it, and they aren't complaining.This thread proves that the one guy who interacted with it complained.
>>740296875Yeah, you're supposed to know to avoid content if you don't find it fun in Zelda. We've known this since Ocarina of Time.
>>740296794>Not Zelda and not a game.We're done, I'm glad the series is no longer in a state of stagnation, I'm glad the linear slop is over.
>>740290518looks like he's having fun, (you) should try it lol
>>740297260every video game has bad side content, so idk what you expect. it's not bad main content so yeah "it gets a pass"
>>740297302because I have fun doing it, retard, lol>>740297310it gives you three rewards for each one though, try actually playing the game, retard
>>740297672It gets a pass because it's Nintendo.
Yeah I'm thinking Palworld won
heard for years botw "fixed" everything, no more tedious intros, pure player agencyI play botw and it's true for the most part, great into without fatthen I play totk and they just fall back into all their worst impulsesI point it out here and I get tendies insulting me defending this craptendies are mentally ill cattleand why the fuck did they make you hold R in order to rotate objects and why the fuck did they make you use only the dpad instead of just using the right stick freely, baffling shit
>>740297867This intro is nothing compared to Twilight Princess.TP holds you hostage for about 2 fucking hours before you are allowed to do anything
>>740298123it's like 2 minutes then you're on your horse though
>>740297867What's that vid, from a speedrunner?
>>740298339ok so you start, none of those mog a Zelda game
>>740289902It was a good expansion but ultimately just more of the same. It’s the last Nintendo game I bought and played. Bizarre that it costs an extra $10 compared to BOTW.
>>740297048why does the game offer you "chores" in the first place?
>>740298182>it's like 2 minutes then you're on your horse thoughYeah, rounding up goats in a tiny field. Woo
>>740298534how long does it take to get your horse in Ocarina of Time
>>740298526It's only a chore if you decide its a chore.Have some agency
>>740298515>Bizarre that it costs an extra $10 compared to BOTW.It makes plenty of sense when you think about it.TOTK is the same game as BOTW, but with more. They couldn't sell it at the same price as BOTW, and refuse to lower the prices of their games, so they made it $70.
>>740298571Getting a horse has nothing to do with whether the game is keeping you in the tutorial section.
>>740297867For me it's the forced walk to the first town for the map, followed by the forced walk to the castle and back for the glider
>>740290518Um. How are you supposed to get on the hook? Looks like it's too long for the box to be attached
>>740298645Ocarina of Time doesn't start until Dodongo's Cavern, how long does that take you on replays
>>740298697You are supposed to attach it to a flat piece of wood board or a log or a minecart. The box is too thick.
>>740298718Less than an hour probably, but I'd argue the tutorial ends with the deku tree anyway. You are allowed to start doing side stuff before talking to Zelda in the castle pre dodongos.
totk is an excellent game that impacted my penis. Sex with fish!
>>740298697I just put the hook on a tree trunk, that's how it's tutorialized initially, idk what that retard was trying to do with the boxes but it was obviously stupid engineering and then he lost the tree so his retardation with the boxes kept going, the whole point is even a kid should know to create a balanced contraption
>>740297189I don't think you understand how absolutely fucking braindead the puzzles in earlier 3D Zelda games are. 2D Zelda games have soul, BotW and TotK aren't as good as 2D but they're at least trying something, other 3D Zelda games are fucking braindead.
>>740298868No way, inside the deku tree you're getting stopped by Navi, outside of it you're doing boring stealth sections, it's only once you get into Dodongo's Cavern that the game finally lays off
>>740298123>retarded nuzelda tourist thinks garbage tutorial with le hecking make your fun gameplay is better than a comfy village setting where your just helping fellow neighbours with small problems before setting out on your journeySubhuman behaviour
>>740297565The game isn't any less linear than Skyward Sword is, there's just less to do.
>>740289902Dumbest post on this board at the moment.
>>740301417I agree. You shouldn't have posted it.
>>740290518A reminder that Miyamoto once said the bosses in Ocarina of Time were too difficult for some people.>For example, in your standard turn-based RPG, on beating the game one is left with a satisfying feeling of all your hard work and labor paying off, in terms of leveling up your characters and so forth. But in Zelda, you're confronted with puzzles and mysteries to unravel, and powerful enemies to face, and it's the immediacy of the experience that is more engaging, and that's what I want players to come away with.>—What you've just described sounds closely related to the question of game difficulty. In your opinion, is Ocarina of Time a difficult game?>Miyamoto: The action difficulty and the puzzle difficulty are two separate things, and on release, I was worried that we might have made the action a little too difficult. When I saw player's feedback postcards, however, many people said "the difficulty level was tough, but really satisfying." Actually, even my daughter, who's in 5th grade, was able to reach each dungeon boss with only 1 continue.https://shmuplations.com/ocarinaoftime/
>>740300693Been playing Zelda since ALTTP. But ok bud.
>>740289902>What went wrongGenshin
>>740293206Did Majora's Mask have any impact on that game?
>>740298639I’d say it’s the same game but with different but equal content.
>>740289902>zero cultural impact>daily seethe threads over 3 years later, just like BOTW before itSeems like its doing just fine to me. I regularly see new contraptions and mods for the game. Maybe youre just gay and retarded.
>>740298123Tbh that's only because of miyamoto and the wii version but yah
>>740301645Termina festival, three-day cycle, evil moon face, final battle happens during the final hours on the top of a tower
this game is as good as everyone says and im sorry you guys got old and grumpy
>>740298123To be fair TP has the longest introduction tutorial compared to any other Zelda game so
>>740289902It was ever meant to feel unique or original, it was just meant to be BotW on steroids for people that wanted to play more BotW.BotW is the one that made serious cultural impact.
>>740289902>>740289902KIMETSU BROS WE WONDBZ, NARUTO AND MY HERO IN THE MUD AND FORGOTTEN
>>740289902Hopefully they can make an even bigger world than they did with Totk. That was the most exciting shit. Going to be hard to top it.
>>740298339>are there any games like Outer wilds?>yeah here's some recs bro
>BotW is the one that made serious cultural impact.lmao
>>740308794It's true whether you're salty af that it came out or not, nostalgiafaggot
