Only people who play nothing but pokemon enjoyed it because they were easily impressed by the realtime battles

>>>/vp/
Back to your containment board

>>>/v/
Stay king

They made it even worse with the DLC.

I didn't like any of the Switch entries

>>740294863
what did the dlc do?

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>>740294770
It was very stale MMO type shit too

>>740294770
wrong, I play many a games but thoroughly enjoyed it
only people mindbroken by pokemon hated it

>>740294175
HAHA!!! XD!!! So true, king!
This game fucking SUCKS!!!!!!

>>740295432
Not even this horny fox that I want to fuck so desperately ands jerk off to drinking its puke could save this game from being complete rancid dogshit. the gameplay was that bad.

>>740294175
good game

>>740295382
You have to grind exponentially harder for everything.

The real time combat is incredibly boring. You just wait on CDs a lot wow, just like my favorite gook mmo except even more dumbed down

>>740295536
Saying this about that game is not allowed.
I will need to kill you for saying this.

>>740295639
The problem is that there is no positioning or dodging or even parry, so it winds up just being even less tactical than the traditional turn based combat.

>>740295382
They decided the base game wasn't grindy enough, so they put a bunch of random warps around the city that change every ingame day. This is the only way to get new mega stones or encounter any of the DLC Pokemon. You need to make donuts using berries in order to enter them, and the donuts themselves give you a time limit and level boost(the DLC goes up to level 200). Shittier berries give you maybe a couple minutes and a pretty low level boost. The good berries are rare and it's completely random what ones and how many you can find. For late game bosses, you NEED +100 and at least 6 minutes of exploration time.
And to make things even shittier, all of the DLC Pokemon you catch are at a really low level and there's no way to level them up inside DLC areas.

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>>740294175
>Sold less than Pokopia
>Sold less than Palworld
>Sold less than any mainline Pokemon game
>Weakest initial sales in the franchise in 7 years.
If it wasn't Pokemon people won't even know about this shit.

>>740295695
>The problem is that there is no positioning or dodging or even parry
Kind of, there are dodging and parry moves, issues is that the CD for them are too long to make any difference. There is terrain to exploit for positioning but its by accident.

>>740295860
That's pretty sad considering that it was a cross-playform release, the first entry on switch 2, and the long awaited sequel to XY

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>>740295860
They will take the completely wrong lesson away from this and never experiment with the battle system again

I wish they went ahead with their original plan of legends celebi, kept things in the past and made it more similar to Arceus at least

I didn't even play it.
First Pokemon game since Red/Blue I've not had any interest in. I didn't like SV, but I still played it.

>>740296015
>original plan of legends celebi
Where was this confirmed?

>>740296015
>muh battle system experimentation
No, we don't need this franchise to devolve into action combat slop like Final Fantasy did, kill yourself

>>740294175
>remember when you were a kid and really wanted an open world Pokemon game with real time combat?
>well here it is!
>except the "open world" is just one city
>and there's mostly nothing to do in it
>and the battles are cooldown-based like some oldschool MMO
>and a shitton of the thousands of mon we've introduced over the years are missing
Gotta admire Nintendo, they knew to feed their cattle nothing but garbage for years so that they'd never demand more than the low-effort trash the company pumps out, and it worked. Now fans will actively defend even the most retarded design choices and decisions while purchasing every title.

>>740296118
>Gotta admire Nintendo
Nintendo don't develop Pokemon.

What did Game Freak mean by making the story of their Paris game all about solving an unchecked immigration problem?

>>740296015
We already know that Legends 3 is a pikmin styled game though

>>740294175
It pisses me off that this is the sequel to Legends Arceus, an amazing game.
it pisses me off even more when you think that it originally was a game set in Johto.

>>740295734
>Pokemon you catch are at a really low level and there's no way to level them up inside DLC areas.
Is this even an issue when the game shits out exp candy like mad, especially in those zones?

>>740295860
It's even worse when you consider that people bought it because it was one of the few SW2 games.
>>740295935
>the long awaited sequel to XY
kek
XY are dogshit.

>>740296231
>pixie dust throwing simulator without trainer battles where you level up by throwing pokeballs instead of battling
>good
lol. lmao even

>>740294175
>>740294770
cry harder, tasteless faggot.

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>>740296293
Cope

>>740296263
It's a really lame way to handle introducing new Pokemon into the game. You pretty much can't use anything new unless you dump a ton of items into it to get it to the literal max level. It sucks even more when there's a good chance you won't even see everything in one playthrough.

>>740296335
It has great flaws but also high highs. I'm a person who can look past flaws. The folklore is amazing.

>>740295860
people bought it only because it's the only way to get Mega Floette in pokemon champions

>>740296118
>and there's mostly nothing to do in it
you clearly didn't played the game.
>and the battles are cooldown-based like the anime
how is that a problem?
>and a shitton of the thousands of mon we've introduced over the years are missing
unironically cry more and learn how to play without your favorite mons.

>>740296436
>bububut the sales!
Concession accepted

The city in ZA is hilarious, it has less interactivity and shit going on than the fucking 3DS games. The fact you’re stuck in a bizarre Potemkin village city with absolutely nothing to do and you can cross the entire thing in less than 5 minutes is absurd. I don’t know why GF keeps pumping out these open world games, none of them have been any good and it’s clear their development structure can’t handle the workload.

>but SV sold a quintillion copies!

Yeah and Pokemon fans bought a romhack of a 20 year old GBA game, they have no standards. That doesn’t mean they can just release shovelware though, Nintendo adults are a finite resource and they need to keep brining people into the franchise.

All of the issues I had with it stem from the city being too small. You can't just take an IP as big as pokemon and try to make it work with a couple patches of shrubbery.

I like the sidequests with catchable mons, gives them a lot of personality. absol never left my rotation same with the chespin that wanted to 1v1 a taxi and the rogue mawile.

>>740295860
>Sold less than Pokopia
please, explain how 12.79 million is higher than 4 million?

>>740296569
>learn how to play without your favorite mons.
If I wanted to do that I'd play digimon. The entire point of Pokemon is to catch em all

>>740295695
Yeah you just spam moves, sometimes you can walk away to "dodge" but it feels clunky and accidental. It just blows, I wish they would either A. Let you play as the Pokémon directly during fights or B. Make the Pokémon walk around on their own and the player has to order them to back away, get closer, run to the side, etc

>>740296665
>please, explain how 12.79 million is higher than 4 million?
Uh.. it is?

>>740296105
Arceus experimented with the system (though not much) while keeping it turn based, they could absolutely redesign it while not making it real time and getting rid of - or expanding on - old mechanics like pp, natures, etc.
I honestly don't think they will because people are so used to the way the system works and actually like it, but they could absolutely freshen it up

>>740296596
Not to mention that the whole pizza pie had like 1 soundtrack to go with it that only changes when cycling to night. Incidentally, that night track sounds like it came from cheesy 90s porno.

>>740295639
The best way I can describe Z-A is that it's Xenoblade for actual 5 year olds. ZA is the Final Fantasy Mystic Quest equivalent where it's completely dumbed down.

>>740294175
It's crazy how this game tried to glorify these Team Flare literalwhos by giving them important positions in the city. Where the heck is Sycamore? All the soul taken away.

>>740296704
nta but pokopia sold just over 4m, ZA sold over 12m

>>740294175
every pokemon game feels like they spend 75% of the budget on an idea of a game then 25% on actually making it
its always just on the cusp on being a decent game, then they just give up

>>740296665
>higher
I meant less

>>740296569
>wow, drampa and falinks get megas, i can't wait to use them
>i hope drampa appears early because it was found minutes before the credits in moon
>cool, there's NPCs that have megas for both, i bet i can find them soon
>falinks is found in wild zone 16 and drampa in 19
>drampa is a rare spawn
But don't worry! I can get Pikachu in area 3, Gastly in area 4, and Charmander as a gift so I never have to think about using anything but the most popular choices!

>>740296780
That doesn't surprise me because Pokopia looks even lazier than Z-A, and farming sims have a narrow appeal to begin with.

>>740296686
>I'd play digimon
and here it is!

>>740296762
>by giving them important positions in the city.
?
the only flare member that isn't in hiding is mable and only because she's on house arrest on a plea deal working for the city.

>>740296596
I thought the city was too big for what it offered, personally. There are just few enough fast travel points to make it annoying to get to some spots, and there is no way to move any faster than running speed.

>>740296783
>its always just on the cusp on being a decent game
when? where? wtf are you talking about, there's nothing remotely interesting about any of this. the best one they made in like 2 decades has been Lets Go Pikachu, and it's because they actually put effort in and fleshed out a new idea they already had. If they would just stop coming up with mega evolution but different then maybe they could get somewhere. Tune up the difficulty, have each battle be at least doubles, write a story that can appeal to at least a teenager, voice acting it's 2026, you have an anime series so use that for cutscenes, actuallyACTUALLY make a good game. Sick and tired of pokemon stans, this series fucking sucks.

>>740296582
It's really weird that you have all these restaurants and they are just there for one battling questline. You can't like order food for a shitty buff or whatever there. There are no minigames, no fun way to explore like with rollerskates, no race around the city, no fishing, there's only a handful of buildings you can even explore, everything looks the same, etc. It feels like such a halfassed game frankly, a proof of concept you'd show to your boss before actually working on the real deal

>>740296436
>muh sales!
>muh reviews!
The games are bad.

>>740296341
>poketard calling anyone tasteless
LMFAO

Playing online tournaments with a discord server is fun when the Pokemon availabilities are kept in check with a point system.

>>740296783
The budget for ZA was only $10 million iirc. It's an obscenely low budget title, some of the bigger indie games like Hades 2 had a higher budget. I think Hades 2 is around 2 or 3x that budget which is quiet frankly unacceptable for the biggest multimedia franchise to put out such low effort garbage.

>>740296037
>First Pokemon game since Red/Blue I've not had any interest in.
poketard

>>740296738
Pretty much. It's Xenoblade without positional effects, combo effects, or chain attacks. So it's basically a nothing game. You just use your strongest move the instant it comes off cooldown, then queue up the next strongest while you wait. There's basically 0 strategy.

>>740297213
>NOOOOOOO YOU NEED TO SPEND A BAJILLION DOLLARS ON EVERY GAME AND FALL FOR THE BLOAT TRAP LIKE THE REST OF THE INDUSTRY
nah

>>740297213
why? it sold well for a budget title
you're getting mad over nothing

>>740296876
unironically sounds like a (You) problem.

>>740296582
Scarlet is a good game. Yeah, it was technically shitty but there are other aspects than the technical ones.

>>740297164
>no u
i accept your concession.

>>740297164
>I joined the thread and cried over someone saying I have shit taste
kek

>>740297270
>>740297271
When a company is using less than 1% of what the previous game made on a new title, something is very very wrong. None of the money is going back into the products. Less than 1% is the ACTUAL number, ZA was made with less than 1% of what S/V grossed.

>>740297053
>It feels like such a halfassed game frankly, a proof of concept you'd show to your boss before actually working on the real deal
To me I've been thinking it feels like a side mode in a new Pokemon Stadium or Collesium game. If it was just an extra in a game you already were on board with (just battling the gym leaders, lots of mini games, Mario Party but Pokemon) it would feel a lot more on point.

Legends Z-A is literally as if the City Trials of Kirby Air Riders was all the game is, just that one map, that one mode. For like 100 hours. The DLC is just that same map with psychedelic colors.

>>740297276
Nah, it's Game Freak's problem. There's no reason to ever try anything new because they frontload the game with so much kanto shit that you've already taken to the hall of fame a dozen times before.
They never make you wait long to find Pikachu or Gengar.

>>740297339
my thread my rules, poketard

Yeah I'm thinking Palworld won

>>740297353
so what you're telling me is tpci is running one of the most profitable ips in the world with great efficiency and high return on investment and you want them to change that why? are you retarded enough to believe more moneys = better game? it could turn out ww's budget is 3x higher than marathon and you'd be here posting the exact same bitching.

>>740297545
I want them to change it because I want something to play. All of the Switch releases have been completely unacceptable.

>>740297287
Even ignoring the fact the game is barely functional and looks like ass, the new mons are below average looking at best and the story is terrible. I’m really tired of your “rival” actually being your friend, and then they extended that baby shit to the main antagonist group you fight too, it was just weak. Exploration in SV simply doesn’t feel rewarding when the map is basically empty and pokermen spawn in a cone around you, the fact xenoblade (a Wii game) has more going on with its monster placements than the most valuable media property on earth is sad.

Really the fact they put so little effort into these games is the thing that bothers me the most. I understand pokemon fans will eat literal garbage as long as it has a pikachu on it but surely people are getting tired of playing what amounts to shovelware right?

>>740297687
>the game is barely functional
I see, you "played" it through a crowbcat video.

>>740297634
then that's a you problem. get over yourself and move on.

>>740297545
There’s a difference between being efficient and being low effort. GF absolutely has the budget to bring on some animators and texture artists to help make their games look better, they have the budget to hire beta testers so their games aren’t being released in these comically unfinished states. The fact they don’t want to spend even a little bit of their goblin horde on making their games even a little better tells me they don’t respect their audience.

>>740297781
I think I'll stay and complain about it.

>>740297287
Like what?
I played through the whole thing, all three main stories and Area Zero and the game is a whole lotta nothing, zero interesting places to go, zero buildings you can enter save for the academy and one gym gimmick with the restaurant, every story sucked, Dex was hit or miss, difficulty was the same as always, the team star gimmick fights were an awdul addition, exploration was ass especially given this was supposed to be their open world game, Area Zero was a spiral staircase going downwards and my reward for wasting my time going down there was a boss battle that had interface screw for the intro and that's it
I gave the game a fair shot and came out of there with shit, so I gave the DLC a wide berth and was thankful I didn't spend a dime on the game

>>740297772
Nigger the game drops to single digit FPS when you look at water. You cannot tell me SV was good shape technically, it was utterly broken and it’s so poorly optimized you pretty much have to play it on switch 2 so it isn’t a slideshow.

>>740297016
the core gameplay loop of getting a team of dudes and raising them up is still timeless
and they introduce a few interesting things every iteration, like 3d then to scale pokemon then pokemon in the overworld
but they all end up halfassed, and thats the best parts the games have to offer
just a little bit more effort from them and they could easily be more than another cheap feeling cash in for the holidays

>>740297941
>one laggy area
>"barely functional"

>>740294175
but enough about e33

>>740296879
your concession is accepted, rapevictim

>>740297687
>barely functional
I played through it 3 times and never encountered a single bug. First time was on emulator at release.
>the new mons are below average looking at best
Disagree. Some look much better than anything post gen 4.
>the story is terrible
Story is great, you're drunk
>I’m really tired of your “rival” actually being your friend
I guess you didn't play the dlc or know who Kieran is then.
>Exploration in SV simply doesn’t feel rewarding
I loved it when I first played it, it was very fun.
>the fact xenoblade (a Wii game) has more going on with its monster placements than the most valuable media property on earth is sad.
Understandable.

The game has flaws, obviously, the League is garbage, for example, but people are not fair in their judgement.
>>740297941
I played it at 17 fps with constant dips below 10 on emulator at release. That doesn't make this game unplayable.

>>740297945
>the core gameplay loop of getting a team of dudes and raising them up is still timeless
not really, it's never been fleshed out beyond the fucking Gameboy
in 2026 I do not want to play a Gameboy game on a Switch 2, this thing is more powerful than an Xbox 360 and it's portable

>>740297545
Putting out the minimal viable product is bad for (you) as a consumer. As a consumer, you should want more. Pokemon games are getting worse because their budgets aren't getting bigger but the cost of making games is increasing. It's the vidya equivalent of shrinkflation and (you) are saying that it's fine that your bag of chips that you pay full price for is half empty.

>>740298145
>I guess you didn’t hear about x and y hmmmm?

Jesus Christ why do you all talk like fucking redditors. Instead of doing your snarky marvel movie bullshit why don’t you explain your reasoning? No I didn’t play the dlc because the base game fucking sucked, why would I give them even more money?

>>740298263
It's an RPG, what do you want?

>>740298145
>constant sub 30fps while also looking like shit
why are you defending this
where are your standards
we love pokemon too and thats why its so sad when we see its potential wasted again and again

>>740298145
>I played it at 17 fps with constant dips below 10 on emulator at release. That doesn't make this game unplayable.
nta but just because you have absurdly low standards doesn't mean everyone else does. some guys will fuck a 600lb hambeast. (that's you)

>>740298356
Starocean

>>740298504
So something not like Pokemon at all?

>>740298568
Persona

>>740298659
So something that's also not like Pokemon?

>>740294175
I mostly liked it.

>>740298715
it's 2026, fix that shit

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>>740296582
>Pokemon fans bought a romhack of a 20 year old GBA game
Do you even know what a romhack is?
Also people was bitching thinking it was gonna be on NSO, and when it wasn't they bitched about the price, while also saying for any other game out there that if they can't buy it, they will pirate instead.
Like what do you want them to do, lie?
But you don't give a shit you just hate pokemon in general so all of this is useless to you.

>>740298263
>in 2026 I do not want to play a Gameboy game on a Switch 2
Well I do. Make Pokemon spin-offs in 2D like Soul Silver/Heart Gold.
>>740298385
I'm not defending it. I'm just saying that it's not a deal breaker for me. I am used to games running like shit having played on a base PS4. Hell even back then in the PS2 era you would drive around Vice City and suddenly you'd crash because the pavement wasn't loading fast enough.
>>740298309
You don't need to give them any money, you can just emulate. Do you want me spoil the story of the dlc? Go play it, I loved it. Kitakami feels like an old school Pokemon game. Just a tip if you do play it, use Ogerpon in your team.
>>740298416
Changing the goalpost. The game is absolutely playable.
Does it look bad compared to other games? Yes. Does it have perfomance issues? Yes. Should the game be better and should we pressure GF into putting more effort? Yes.

>>740298808
I would pay 40 euros for a physical release with both Fire Red and Leaf Green.
I'm not paying 20 euros for a digital rom when a physical GBA cartridge is like 40 euros and I already have Leaf Green kek.

>>740299024
>physicalcuck is mentally ill
understandable

>>740299059
You will have to explain what you mean because you're the only one knowing what you meant.

>>740298907
>Changing the goalpost. The game is absolutely playable.
playable is a subjective, if you want to say you can complete it then sure even big rigs is playable but 17 fps is a very poor performance and when beast of reincarnation has similar performance issues, something tells me people are going to be much less forgiving when the pokemon ip isn't attached to gamefreak's fuckups.

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>>740298907
-pokemon visible in the wild
-battle starts with no transition
-battles are only double battles
-no double versions
-every playthrough has a unique seed that determines encounter rates
-every game has a save file for a playthrough, and a second save file where caught Pokemon are stored to be imported to playthroughs
-battles are reworked to be very stylish with hundreds of varied animations multiple per attack
-super effective moves no longer one hit kill an opponent
-instead it knocks them down and staggers them allowing follow up moves
-moves are displayed at all times in a radial menu so one button press is all that's required
-moves are equipable outside of battles
-five moves can be equipped to a Pokemon
-always have access to every learned move, it just requires more button presses than the equipped
-no more IV stats every Pokemon is 'perfect'
-no more shiny Pokemon
-each Pokemon has several variants including regional ones
-starting Pokemon choices are much more variable and based on seed
-choosing the starting town, and non-linear progression
-experience points and level ups are gained exceedingly rapidly
-power disparity between levels is hard gapped no longer can a Pokemon 10 levels higher easily overpower another, elemental strengths and weakness much more important
-no more switching out Pokemon in a battle instead a third Pokemon can be deployed when one is weak against an opponent
-pokeballs that are used to catch Pokemon are now much more important and alter all kinds of stats and ability to learn moves and typings
-very few trainers to battle in the game and over time they refresh their team and scale higher in rematches
-the prerequisite of fighting the elite four no longer depends on gym badges there's no gyms
-the requirement of facing the elite four is now dependent on beating every trainer in the region in a battle
-the world is seamless and fly and soar are now the same ability
-all bodies of water can be dived into and explored

>>740299590
>but 17 fps is a very poor performance
That was emulation on Steam Deck at release...
>something tells me people are going to be much less forgiving when the pokemon ip isn't attached to gamefreak's fuckups
Again, I played Control and Elden Ring on base PS4 and it was bad, very bad. They're still playable games.
Companies should do better, yes, we should pressure them, yes, but at the end of the day if I want to play a game I'll deal with technical issue.

>>740299778
>there's no gyms
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>>740298808
It IS a romhack, its running on an emulator. The only thing they did was they added the event tickets, why do you think there’s no Pokemon home support? Besides, NSO includes a GBA emulator so why aren’t these games included? That’s a very reasonable thing to ask, why should I be expected to pay $20 for a 20 year old GBA game that has basically nothing changed. They split them off because they knew they were in high demand so they could milk their fan base, that’s why.

>But you don't give a shit you just hate pokemon in general

Fucking kill yourself goddamn. Emerald and heartgold are some of my favorite games of all time. Saying that the switch games are terrible doesn’t mean I hate Pokemon and I’m so sick of you fucking simps coming in and going “oh you don’t like this absolute garbage? You must be a fake fan!”.

>>740299885
it's stale, the onus is now to defeat all trainers in the game

>>740299920
>It IS a romhack, its running on an emulator
this board just gets dumber every year

>>740299920
Not him.
>why do you think there’s no Pokemon home support?
But there is. Just not right now.
The Switch games are not terrible. Not all of them, at least. If you don't like Legends Arceus you're not a pokemon fan.

>>740300048
…but enough about /vp/

>>740300098
i accept your concession

>>740299969
No. Gyms are genius. They add character to the game, they are effectively boss battles, remove them and you have nothing.

>>740300091
>just not right now

No, they removed that from the store page, it doesn’t have Pokemon home support and it likely never will.

>>740300161
No, remove them and turn trainer battles into boss battles. The gyms are effectively the world design itself. This is genius. What you're talking about is stagnation, you are likely poketard incarnate. 2026, fix that shit.

>>740300173
If the old virtual console releases had it then this will too. New games don't usually have it.

>>740300048
Yes, an edited rom is by definition a romhack. Romhacks don’t always have to be major changes, in this case they added the limited time promotional shit. And we know it’s a rom because people have already extracted it.

https://gbatemp.net/threads/pokemon-fire-red-gba-rom-switch-version-on-gba-emulator.681112/

>>740300048
>it's not a romhack because well I uhh the errrm hmm

>>740300230
>change good
Jewish golem.

>>740300301
>>740300390
If it's official it can't be a hack by definition.

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>>740294175
I really liked it. The OST was the best I've ever heard in a long time.

https://youtu.be/tvSlzzXpZEQ

>>740296980
Lysandre is walking free lol
"but he a good redemed guy now" still needs to be in custody for being a mafia leader

>>740300413
Good change is good, WOW. Fucking poketard. Enjoy your fucking slop, goy cattle.

>>740300237
The store page advertised Pokemon home support at launch but that blurb has been removed, the only reason they would do that is if they don’t plan to implement home support. Either GF is incapable of adding it or Nintendo is too paranoid about hackers finding a way to upload Pokemon from their emulated games, either way I sincerely doubt they’re going to add it if they haven’t added it already.

>>740300475
Wrong, there's been many official romhacks in recent years.

>>740294175
one of the worst piece of shit ever made, and whoever like it is a fucking subhuman

>>740300475
That’s total nonsense, what are you talking about? A romhack is an edited rom, full stop. Just because they’re selling it doesn’t mean it stops being a romhack and even if it did that doesn’t change the fact they’re charging you $20 for an emulated GBA game when THE SWITCH ALREADY HAS A GBA EMULATOR.

>>740295935
>and the long awaited sequel to XY
No one gives a singular fuck about gen 6 in 2026. People wanted a Legends Johto or Unova set in the past of those regions, and that spanned the entire region, like Arceus did with Sinnoh, not a modern day Kalos "Legends" wannabe Pokémon Z set in 1 (one) city.

>>740300718
>>740300573
I guess he was right, you are retarded.

>>740300523
I don't see any good changes you mentioned, rabbi.

>>740294175
Will never forgive this game for the ugly Korrina redesign.

>>740300535
>the only reason they would do that is if they don’t plan to implement home support
Assumption.

>>740295467
The game is boring as hell, the story is retarded, the music is inconsequential and there's no gameplay besides combating and breaking the mega crystals.
Probably one of the worst games I've played this decade and I played the space lesbians game from start to finish.

>>740301075
So 15m is its ceiling then.

>>740295935
>long awaited sequel
Pfffft lmao

>>740300048
>nooooooo it's not a romhack because it's official
they didn't go back and edit the source code and recompile the game retard. it's the same rom with a few alterations
if they had ported the game, they'd have lost their ESRB/PEGI/whatever rating and the game corner would have had to be cut

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>>740300935
Here's your Korrina, bro!

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>>740294175
Keep crying, my bitch.

>>740301049
>there's no gameplay besides combating
>there's no gameplay if you exclude the gameplay
wow

>>740298907
You are wrong, and also stupid.

>>740301783
Stupid post.

>>740294175
Still cannot believe it only took place in a single city. A tiny, ugly as fuck city that re-used a couple textures for every building. And the wild zones were just neon barrier segments of the boring city. And only a couple buildings can be entered, and there's only one tiny dungeon near the end. It's just so astonishingly cheap, small-scale and cynical.

It might be worse than TOTK re-using BOTW's map, because at least Hyrule in those games is huge with a bunch of landmarks, even if it's mostly empty.

>>740299778
Insanely fucking autistic post filled with terrible ideas.

>>740299920
A lot of people into this franchise are so mindbroken by it that they cannot comprehend liking Pokémon and yet being critical of some of game freak's decisions at the same time

>>740302032
They couldn't even be assed to slap two bigger wild areas on the sides of the city to mimic Paris' bois de Vincennes and Boulogne lol

>>740302537
I just don’t know how anyone can defend these games when game freak isn’t even trying anymore, the switch can run shit like doom and remnant from the ashes but Pokemon is incapable of producing a fucking cutscene and half the pokemon just reuse the same animations? It’s beyond the point of parody.

I wish we could have just joined the Rust Syndicate. It's not like they were actually criminals and they were a lot more fun than the 'friend' group. Only the gayboy was really tolerable.

>>740303127
And don't forget, voice acting is actually a bad thing. Having full-ass cutscenes with characters opening and closing their mouths without a single sound escaping their lips looks A-ok and doesn't look incredibly amateurish

>>740294175
It was fine. I liked most of it, but never clicked with the gameplay. I would have rather it just play normally or like arceus. What I found weird was the lack of a real ending.

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Bought the game and played to %100 got the ET Flowette and completed the pokedex.

Yeah its pretty shitty. The reason I pulled the trigger and bought it was to try out the new combat. Which is a pretty decent upgrade over the old turn based combat. Just like SV it takes some steps back from all the good things PLA did so its another instance of one step forward two steps back.

The map is puny, ugly, boring and low quality. It isn't an exaggeration that you can RUN across the thing in 5 mins or so. All the buildings look the same so its easy to forget where you are or go the wrong way. The story is pretty bland and the whole game was made to just tie up the last loose end of gen 6, something they didn't get to do because pokemon Z was canceled for the 20th anniversary gen 7 games. I didn't bother with the DLC because I didnt see a point, no new pokemon, just new megas and I was pretty burnt out because getting ET Flowette is kind of a grind.

Its pretty insulting that they sold this game for full price especially sense we have the leaks and know it cost them like 13-16 mil to make and finished and ready to ship at the start of 2023. They literally made it to fill in between droughts but even with all the extra money and time they had they refused to do anything beyond the bare minimum.

Another note about the leaks is that PLA, SV and PLZA were all experimental games being made while they were making their real big game. Even winds and waves is supposed to be a like a beta test to this game that has the first 4 regions all on the same map.

>>740303326
The friend group was bad, but what made them annoying was the black one. Even the japs didn't like him and they tend to not care

>>740296480
It took like 3 trips into one of these zones to get enough candy for me to raise a Torchic I found to level 100. That is like a million times better and easier than other pokemon games for catching low level mons to raise.

It could take you multiple hours in Gen 1-5 to raise some late game addition to your team up to the level of the rest of your mons.

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>>740301075
SwSh won

>>740302032
>hmm, what's one of the staples of Pokemon games?
>you go on an adventure around a region visiting many different places
>what if we made a game where you just stay in one place the entire time?

>>740303678
While not my favorite. I was too hard on it.

>>740303560
Taunie wasn't black though

>>740303787
She was fine. The nog was horrible. He looks designed by committee and has the most scenes forced on you so you like him. The dancing girl was given nothing

>>740303857
"Ummm i don't like fighting.. i like fashion and sewing and come from a rich family!" He comes right out of a modern faggy western cartoon

>>740303857
I fucking hated her. Even nignog at least knew what he was about.

>>740296569
are are such a cocksucker

>>740304016
I think you just don't like cute girls dude. I liked the split this time around as well. It was neat seeing both versions. My sister really liked him in her playthrough as well. That's something that should stay around

>>740301714
can you explain why the game is good without resorting to sales

>>740303724
I liked it, I strongly believed people were too harsh on it but at the same time its the last pokemon i ever bought

>>740304212
Yeah I still think it's a lazy 3ds project put on switch, but I vastly preferred it to scarlet and violet.

Where are people getting the 12 million sales number from? Gamestop just had the game go for 30 since it wasn't moving much on switch 2

>>740302058
Insanely brilliant post filled with genius ideas actually, enjoy your slop you goy cattle.

>>740296293
>XY are dogshit
That is precisely why people wanted a Z version to flesh them out more

>>740304387
I bought metroid prime 4 for $26 in that same sale and hated it. Pokemon by comparison is the much better game

>>740303615
>grinding 3 zones for a single pokemon instead of just having it passively grow
They already force the exp share on us, and they can't even have it fulfill its purpose.

>>740303326
The girls are hot. That's all it matters, it's not like you'll ever want to be friends with women anyway.

>>740304212
It remains the only Pokemon games I could never stomach to completion, and I tried on multiple occasions. They're that bad.

>>740303537
Not even new reginal forms, that was extremely disappointing.
>b-but muh mega!
Hate that shit.

>>740306186
I'll never get the hate for mega evolutions. They're a much better gimmick than the giant pokemon and whatever the retarded crystals from scarlet and violet were called

>>740306186
Regional forms wouldn't have made sense when it only takes place like 5 years after XY.

>>740294770
For me it’s not the battle system but the models for the Pokémon. This is the best that the Pokemon themselves have ever looked in 3D. The colors are so much more vibrant. I just wish they were used in a better game

>>740301075
I’ve finally been checking out the Switch Pokemon games. Base Scarlet/Violet is the worst main game in the series but the DLCs are so good that they move it up from “ehh” to “I’d recommend this”. I’m playing Sword next and I remember that getting a lot of hate as well but outside of the whole dexit thing, what do people dislike about it?

>>740305967
Nta but 3 zones is like 10-15 minutes maybe

>>740295467
>many a games
Such as?

>>740295467
what are your top 5 games?

>>740307963
It's still annoying busywork. You're not even training the Pokemon, not even passively. You're just catching it, and loading it up with candy until it becomes useful. The DLC areas are already locked to postgame, why am I even seeing level 20s? Game Freak isn't shy about high level unevolved Pokemon, because Teal Mask is all in the 60s if you do it in postgame.

Liked the redhead Taunie as your designated girlfriend. Like the battle system. Liked the OST. Liked the character designs. Didn't like the forced to watch the night and day transitions announcements. Love my megas. Hope they keep making megas Pokemon. I can't decide which I like more between Pokemon Legends Arceus and Pokemon Legends Z-A since they aren't 1:1 the same tone.

Cope you tryhard Smogon Net Battle trainer battle obsessed idiots. Your Pokemon Champions dailies are waiting back for you neckbeards.

this thread proves pokefags are the dumbest retards on the board and they were right to get a containment board, the only mistake was not permabanning all of them

>>740301768
>You do a single thing the whole game
>Pokefags: OMG this is literally GOTY holy shit Nintendo, take my newborn kid to pay for the new game!!!!!!!!!!!
The absolute state...