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>NOTHING LE MATTERS
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>>740304994
You know he's the villain yeah?
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>>740304994
Correct. It's a genuinely interesting train of thought. The only thing that differentiates your existence with a bird being ravaged to death is a different branch of evolution and chance. If you, cosmically, are no different than every single microbe, bug, rodent, etc. that die by the trillions each day, what makes your existence worth doing? The universe sprang into being about 14 billion years ago, and will exist forever as a cold dark place after its own heat death for far longer than it had any light. And the only thing going on in it is murder sandboxes on each Goldilocks planet that will only exist as flashes in the pan before all life dies out. We'll never get any answers, and the only thing we can hope for is not dying asshole first. It's pretty fucking bleak man.
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>>740305297
Thank you for describing why a purely materialistic outlook is insane.
inb4 the abrahamic cultists declare that to mean that their desert cults are the answer
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>>740305413
You just gotta cope with it until the Overman arrives.
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>>740304994
Congratulations on disagreeing with the main antagonist anon
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>>740305297
>if I can't live forever then why live at all?
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>>740304994
He just really liked hurting people and sewing misery and despair. You wouldn't get it. You clearly prefer to dwell on the positive, judging by this thread
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>>740304994
He’s literally me. Intelligent, nihilistic with a wicked sense of humor
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>>740304994
>insane experimental test subject pumped full of magic and transformed into a godlike entity says something that seems a bit off
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>>740304994
I’m da Jokah baby!
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>>740305297
>bleak
I won't argue with you because there is no arguing with that. A fulfilled person will be grateful for existence and an unhappy person will see existence as a misfortune, and both will blame the universe and both will be right.
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>>740304994
yeah kefka is a pretty shit tier villain the only good thing about him is how he keeps backstabbing and raping everybody, but even then most of the time its just ass pulls.
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>>740305297
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>clown becomes a God
>doesn't do anything funny
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>>740305297
Explaining life away as just a coincidence only works if you've never looked deeper into any aspect of it. Afraid you might find meaning, big boy?
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>>740304994
FF14 did it better
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>>740304994
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People really don't get that Kefka's existentialism was never genuine or philosophical. He's not that deep. It's more like the fleeting curiosity of a child, watching bugs squirm and keep trying to survive even as he pulls parts off of them. There was never any answer or deeper meaning to be found, no self reflection. He's just a psychopath who doesn't see any value in life or hope, besides the joy in taking them away.

>>740306313
My favorite thing about Kefka is how he rarely seemed to have any long term plan and wound up stumbling backward into ultimate power, just by being the biggest asshole he could at every opportunity. His biggest triumph was figuring out the statues before Gestahl's old ass did.
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>>740305672
That happens only because it's a simple good vs evil story. Kefka has no character
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>>740306647
He killed all the adults in a town and left all the children alone, and then sent an ancient ogre to terrorize them and eat them day after day. That's peak comedy
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>>740306656
What's the point looking for something that doesn't exist?
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>>740305297
If nothing matters then why doompost in the first place?
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>>740304994
Achshually this insane suicidal crashout is because the protagonists just shat all over his stupid edgelord worldview and he couldn't handle it.
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>>740304994
He was part of the same science experiment that made Celes and the other knights, only they fucked up with him and it drove him insane. Nothing he says should be taken as anything but the ravings of a madman who should've been put down long ago.
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>>740304994
>WAKU WAKU, HE LOOKS TOUGH! LET ME FIGHT HIM!
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>"I take it this is your prey. But why does it still live? Surely it is no match for you. I assumed you would be above something so banal as despair."
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>>740304994
so did sams club baldy end up getting banned?
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>>740304994
Yes he's a nihilist and yes he's a retard. Kafka is mainly remembered for what he accomplished not his stupid personality
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>>740306668
FFXIV doesnt remotely try to do the same thing

What you can say FFXIV did better than was Chains of Promathia, its basically the same story
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>>740304994
It was the 1990s, we hadn't even unlocked terrorism yet.
Go easy on the Devs.
The darkest thing we had was Kurt Cobain for Christ's sake.
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>>740305297
t. Kefka
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>>740309140
>What you can say FFXIV did better than was Chains of Promathia
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>>740305297
There are no answers
>>740306656
There's no bigger meaning. We as humans are the only ones who can create their own meaning. We don't need answers.
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if "nothing matters" cuz we're all "going to die", then then the obvious answer is the pursuit of immortality and eternity, not suicide/omnicide
fucking retard
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>>740309436
Human brains can't store infinite memories.
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>>740305297
>DUDE the universe is completely random, we're just here by chance!
>also the universe has consistent rules that can be studied and repeated!
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>>740309436
>then then the obvious answer is the pursuit of immortality and eternity
Hence why religion exists. It offers comforts of immortality and eternity wrapped in the trappings of delusion. Nothing but a coping mechanism for the fear of death.
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For those not following the ff14 world first race for Kefka's ultimate the phases are confirmed to be
1: Vanilla kefka, pretty much same as savage with some little twists
2: God Kefka that's mostly the same except for a truly fucked version of Forsaken
3: Kefka realizes he's in a simulation and takes control of both exdeath and chaos, sics them on you while he changes his size values to become bighuge. All bosses mechanics going off while bighuge kefka elbow drops and tapdances on the arena
4: Everyone goes into their second phase forms, exdeath and chaos now have the same question mark fake-out abilities as Kefka attached to their mechanics.
5:Kefka fuses with them, becomes an evil magical girl parody for his final phase. No word on mechanics yet.
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>>740309436
https://youtu.be/FnaqXPQ3WCU?t=171
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>>740309587
I don't care tranny. XIVoids are not apart of my franchise.
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>>740304994
>redditera utterly and completely destroyed what nihilism actually means
You cannot hate them enough.
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>>740309561
Those two statements are not mutually exclusive.
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>>740304994
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>>740309540
sounds like a skill isssue to me
try harder
>>740309563
I mean real immortality, first biological then physical and once that's done start working on dealing with entropy
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>>740309647
They actually are.
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>>740306313
People cant see Kefkas just a psycho. All he is saying is
>I am incapable of seeing value in anything other than my evil desires thus all that exists is nothing according to me
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>>740305297
Heat death is just a theory.
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global relativism is the future
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I'm from Israel and Kefkas got a wicked sense of humor just like me
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>>740305297
this is a teenage midwits first dabbling in philsophy's exesential nightmare. Once a person gets a little older they realize that even if their values and experiences are compeltely by chance and subjective, they still hold great meaning, and that constantly thinking about what if my life turned out differently and comparing yourself to others is not something that actually leads to anything philosophically. It is insecurity and paranoia mixed with depression masquarading as philosophy with a dash of sophistry.

.
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>>740310163
You talk like a fag.
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>>740305297
>About a year ago a new telescope disproved the big bang theory by seeing galaxies that shouldn't be there because they dont exist on the big bang radiation map.
>This threw a bunch of scientific findings in the dumpster and the current most logical answer for the universe's exist is extremely juvenile "It just must have popped up at some point".
>If you bring this up to an astrophysicist they become like dinosaur feather diniers, knowing its true but not really but not engaging with it because they don't understand it or like it.

Your view is nihilistic anon everything wont become nothing forever there will forever be more.
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>>740305297
I am convinced the original Silent Hill 2 really is the greatest survival horror game of all time.
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>>740305297

>
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>>740310320
Maybe, but im not wrong. There is nothing to be gleamed or gained on any level by focusing so much on the fact that your chances of being human and thus being sentient were so small compared to being any other creature. All of this type of thinking literally only exists to demoralize people and to spread things like moral relativism.
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stealth xiv thread
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>>740308584
Please go back to the death battle general, Jesus Christ.
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>>740309561
Universe is a machine with rules, sure, what does this say about us?
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>>740305297
nihilism is about as vapid as it gets
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>>740310639
no its not
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>NOTHING LE MATTERS
>Gets his ass beat
>Says nothing as he disintegrates into dust
???
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>>740310796
What's the contradiction? It doesn't matter
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>>740310407
Clock tower fucking destroys it.
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>>740309540
I've often wondered this in stories involving immortality or extremely long lives.

Like, what would happen to someone's brain if you could make them live for thousands of years? Assume their body and brain remain in perfect physical health. No, plaque buildup or toxin or general wear and tear. Neurologically what might happen to memory? From what I've seen in the elderly they seem to cling to memories of their youth very strongly. But once we're talking millennia of life, surely some shit somehere needs to get extensively pruned since even with perfect health there isn't infinite capacity
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What happens to the existence of the universe if life dies?
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>>740310796
he literally won. he shattered the world and with his death magic vanished from the world
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>>740304994
Why does he dress like a clown?
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>>740310893
A human brain would start to go insane after living that long, as they did not evolve to experience existence or living for such a long time. Even if their brain was perfectly healthy, the boredom alone would cause extreme problems in the psyche.
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>>740311016
Maybe your weak brain would. Superior beings such as I would have no problem with eternal life.
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>>740310893
Thor in the comics says that every major event in his life feels shorter than it actually was. His time with the avengers was closer to summer vacation than 15+ years of fighting literally everything.
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>>740310893
I think it would like a computer, you're start to clean space for new memories.
Human brain can store around 2 petabytes
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>>740310893
The question is partially nonsensical - you're turning off rules for all parts of the body except for the brain. But you can probably look at anterograde amnesia as an answer. Anterograde amnesia is the inability to create new long term memories. It's far more common than retrograde, which is where you forget old memories and is more popular in media. Probably the brain would just struggle and eventually fail to create new long term memory. So, likely a horror story where you wake up every day and the world around you is gradually vastly more different than when you went to sleep, maybe with some new memory fragments here and there.
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>>740311067
I cant tell if you are shitposting or unbelievably delusional.
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>>740310893
what do dogs think of human lifespans
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>>740310969
Probably nothing, but we humans are the only known lifeform who can observe the universe. The universe observes itself through us
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>>740311008
>get hired as court advisor
>emperor tells you to wear whatever you want
>wear everything at once
HELP ME BELIEVE
IT'S NOT THE REAL ME
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>>740311121
The only delusional take is you believing your own brain's limitations are the same as everyone else's.
In a manner of speaking, everyone has "lived" for as long as "living" has existed. But you aren't ready for that knowledge yet. You're sure to call this "schizo" faster than you'd call actual schizophrenic behavior.
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>>740304994
I feel as though people who think Kefka “won” completely misunderstood FFVI’s plot and themes. Kefka loses precisely because humanity still survives, has hope and a desire to live even after an apocalyptic event. The party’s very existence and the fact that people are having children proves Kefka wrong.

It would be more accurate to say that Kefka got very close to winning, but lost at the eleventh hour thanks to friendship and love.

Also, every villain in the series after Kefka also gets similarly close to winning, but fails at the last hurdle, so he’s not special in that regard.
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>>740311008
as I recall he was a jester, then the emperor stuck him in a tube and pumped him full of magic kind of for gags and kind of for science
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>>740311280
Solipsism isn't as groundbreaking as you think it is.
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>>740304994
That's Kefka for you. FFVI is an ensemble cast game, and Kefka's story is the last you get to hear. It's a direct contradiction to everyone else finding meaning in others, and they will probably never see eye to eye. All they can do is end it for him, just to make a point, even if killing the god of magic fucks the world over.

(Also, the way it plays out leaves a pretty strong indication that he's taunting you because he wants to die)
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>>740311431
>(Also, the way it plays out leaves a pretty strong indication that he's taunting you because he wants to die)
lol no, he has a melty because everyone else found meaning and he can't so he decides to destroy it all out of spite.
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>>740311303
Remind me, didn't Kuja just nuke the party and himself, then Necron appeared from...somewhere.
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>>740311673
necron is an equivalent to the cloud of darkness, but death aspected instead of light/dark. he's a force of nature. he was responding to a fervent desire to die (trance kuja destroying the crystal)

he's unironically explained better in ff14
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>>740311280
i cant even give you a 1/10 sorry anon you sound like a child who thinks they are much smarter than they actually are. Truly intelligent people are often extremely humble and show humility because they start to understand how little they actually know. You are literally the prime example of why the dunning-kreuger effect can be graphed so easily.
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>>740311303
they found meaning in a stagnate world since his death means the end of magic. no more healing your loved ones from death, no more tech, every magical animal or flower dies. it's just humans in a mundane world
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>>740304994
Kefka actually doesn't call them worthless in Japanese.

「命…夢…希望…
どこから来て どこへ行く?
そんなものは…このわたしが破壊する!

"Life...dreams...hope...
Where do they come from, and where do they go?
Those are all things that I'll destroy!"

Woolsey really fucked this games translation. This error is relatively small but others completely change the context of a scene and changes characters.
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>>740311887
That's already how most of them were living anyway. Magic in FFVI's world was hidden for thousands of years until Gestahl began magitek research less than 20 years before the game.
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>>740305297
Saw this the other day. Not that I agree with it but it was interesting to read.
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>>740306775
zenos is anhedonic, not nihilistic
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>>740304994
My theory is that when Kefka became a god in FFVI, he broke the 4th wall and discovered that he's nothing more than a programmed character in a video game, and that everyone's existence and struggles are ultimately meaningless. Even his attempt to destroy everything is meaningless because not only he's destined to fail and be defeated by the heroes, but also their world and stories will end once the credits roll anyway. This revelation has driven him further to madness. So in his mind, he might as well simply play the part as that's what a clown does; he performs for the audience.
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>>740312165
Stupid theory considering him being a nihilist was added in the translation and isn't in Japanese
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>>740311942
>this guy who had 3 months to translate the entire game alone with memory and character limitations to consider really botched this whole game because he was explicit about what was only an implication
Can you faggots just die?
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>>740308684
I miss him and his autistic fat ass.
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>>740312243
Got no uses for excuses.
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>>740310406
>they become like dinosaur feather diniers
It's not quite the same. Those astrophysicists are in denial because they're afraid of chance, I don't acknowledge dinosaur feathers because the scaled ones are cooler.
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>>740312043
they didnt exactly win anything since their choice was to live under the rule of an insane idiot god or kill god and remove everything that made the world magical. the new meaning they found was because survival shifted from relying on the gods (what every magical and non magical being relied on) to depending on each other since without magic everyone become equal
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>>740312243
I'd read he only got one month
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>>740312243
I know the situation he was in. It was still an extremely shitty translation and I'm sure he'd agree.
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>>740312198
This is all in context to how he's portrayed in modern appearances. Intentions can change over time. Kefka wasn't even clownish in the original, but that became his interpretation over time.
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>>740304994
"meaning" is a dualistic system of values that categorizes experiences under the presumption of finality. the soul itself is immortal, therefore infinite, something that the human brain cannot comprehend.
you are welcome
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>>740310406
Wrong.
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>>740310650
Typically chaotic systems don't organize themselves into non chaotic systems. It lends to the idea that our system is in fact, not chaotic, and was designed.
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>>740312243
>an implication
No. Kafka destroying everything because he's just a nihilist is different from him destroying everything because he intentionally wants to cause harm and suffering. Everything in the game indicates Kefka's motivations are the latter
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>>740312243
>its ok if you did a shitty job if you were rushed
No, sorry. Refuse to do it if you dont have enough time. Have some fucking respect for the material you are translating or , if we take this in a more general idea, the material you are creating. Obsidian also loves to claim they didnt have enough time to make nu vegas and kotor 2 but why didnt they just completely refuse to do it unless they were given more time? Because they valued getting paid above art. And because of that, we are always stuck with really shitty fucking art from people like this.
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>>740312243
it should be illegal to translate Japanese games. learn the language or fuck off.
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>>740309375
he's right
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>>740312327
Not every dinosaur had feathers, just like crocodiles don't.
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>>740307219
Because it doesn't matter, so why not?
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>>740304994
If nothing matters the logical choice for kefka should be to turn the ff6 planet into a debris field floating in space for near eternity.
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>>740312609
He's retarded and so are you.
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>>740305297
works in my machine
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>>740307219
Because I choose to.
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>>740309587
Is this true? I thought people were still stuck in p3.
Also that sounds fucked up.
Where is pixel Kefka, though?
>>740309628
Nobody asked your opinion albeit.
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>>740305297
Wrong, the universe has always existed and we (European races) are meant to become its gods.
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>>740306809
I’d also say that every villain doesn’t need to be deep or philosophical with some ”actually, he has a point” twist. Kefka is a shameless asshole and hateful psycho, and that’s all he needs to be to be a good villain.
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>>740305297
What being a NEET does to a mf
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>>740312648
he doesnt want a final end or to rule a kingdom. he wanted to play with his new toys
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>>740312549
>AI answer
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>>740307053
Humbaba doesn't work for Kefka.
Humbaba is just an ancient evil that got released due to the Earth being split open when it became World of Ruin.
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>>740305297
>describes winning ten lotteries on top of one another
>says that’s sad
Existence really is wasted on a lot of you.
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>>740304994
>Kefka, the worst FF villain, has shitty shallow motivations
I'm shocked
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>>740311394
Concession accepted.

>>740311882
Imagine being so assblasted you pull out dunning-krueger where it doesn't apply and start spewing some bullshit you read online about how "every smart person acts this way because I say so". Cattle behavior.
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>>740311942

"Life...dreams...hope...
Where do they come from, and where do they go?

Where do they come from cottoneye joe"
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>>740312858
Lmfao
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>>740305297
>WAAAH MY EXISTENCE HAD ONLY MEANING IF IT HAS ETERNAL CONSEQUENCES!!!
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>>740312563
Every molecule in the universe has structure. Random chance doesn't mean nothing makes any sense.
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>>740312678
Nah, he's right and you're sneething.
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>>740312845
The worst FF villains are the ones that only show up at the end to be obligatory final bosses.
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>>740311942
>>740312564
>>740312584
「それさえもいずれは滅ぶ。
なぜ滅ぶとわかりきっているのに
またつくる?
死ぬとわかっていて
なぜ生きようとする?
死ねば全て無になってしまうのに。

Kill yourself.
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>>740311528
There's something tragic about that part of Kefka. When he's ruling the WoR with sustained fear and cruelty, he's chasing the closest thing to meaning he can think of. As much as he tries to pretend otherwise by acting grandiose and calling himself a god, he still has a human psyche, and his mental stability depends on having other people to take his insanity out on in some way. The part where all the protagonists meet him again in the tower is probably the first time he's actually seen someone in a long time. He clearly looked forward to it, too. And it goes so incredibly bad for him he just snaps completely. Even his comeback right then is really lame.
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>>740309398
the fact that we can create meaning must be meaningful
I mean it's pretty interesting to think that the laws of the universe shaped us in this way, and that it's beneficial
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>>740312549
>Our theory isn't wrong
>The uh, physics of the universe were just different!

Ok. Come on now...You can come up with all sorts of fuckery if your excuses for your theory being wrong can be brushed away by explaining that physics were just different.

Also keep in mind, a "best supported model" doesn't equate to a GOOD model. Similarly to how IQ is the best predictor of a persons life, it doesn't mean it's a GOOD predictor, it's just that it's the best one we have until something better is discovered.
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>>740309540
Then I add extra storage to my brain using my biological immortality.
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>>740312857
>Concession accepted.
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nihilism is my only consolation in life. Thankfully it's the only truth
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>>740312919
Name 1
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>>740312549
>I asked the consensus machine about this thing that doubted the consensus and it told me the consensus was right, isn't that crazy?
Thank God you will never breed
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>>740312891
Emet or Venat? Which one do you jack off to daily?
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>>740312794
>Uuuh actually I just disproved the Big Bang! Your AI is wrong, not me!
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>>740313017
Ultimecia
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>>740313021
I love how much it makes you seethe that you can't just spout bullshit and get away with it anymore thanks to AI.
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>>740310893
Either chronopsychosis happens or there is a disassociation as new memories and experiences replace the old ones.
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>>740312857
>where it doesn't apply
The irony of calling others asslasted when you act like this is quite staggering anon. I do wish to stop laughing though, so please, keep going. Illumiate everyone here with your divine intellect.
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>>740313017
*Chaos
*Zeromus
*Ultimecia
*Necron
*Yu Yevon
*Orphan
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Why is Tina the FFVI rep everywhere when Celes is the main character?
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>>740313026
Your mom's fat tits.
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>>740313027
>brown reasoning
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>>740313190
Final form of Yu Yevon is pretty dull, but at least the whole game revolves around the religion he started and named after himself.
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>>740304994
Can anyone remind me why they decided to give him 4th wall awareness starting with the Dissidia games?
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>>740313190
All of those characters are established much earlier in the game.
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>>740310406
>like dinosaur feather diniers
The vast majority didn't have feathers.
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>>740313297
The occult concept of divine madness.
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>>740313297
Because Nomura cant write
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>>740313190
Ultimecia is technically present throughout the game, as she possesses Edea, Rinoa and Adel and is the mastermind behind everything.
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>>740312061
I HATE THE DEMIURGE
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>>740313017
Cloud of Darkness
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>>740313226
Keep seething, I'm almost there.
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>>740312939
Yeah, Einstein thought the same
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>>740313546
>straightest fecaloid
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>>740305297
look at all these redditors braiwnashed by pedophiles who believe in le materialism, le atheism and le finite life

not ready
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>>740305297
midwit
if you're no better than a germ just kill yourself
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>>740313416
I think it was more reasonable with Gilgamesh due to him traveling through dimensions. Kefka just feels cheap, like those bad Deadpool stories made in the mid-2010s in order to capitalize on the success of the character.
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>>740312929
>nothing matters
>thats why i didnt just end existance
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>>740305297
I don't think that's bleak at all, it's just the reality of our world, be content with the life you've been given because for all we know this is the only time each of us exists
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>>740313190
>*Chaos
He's literally the first boss in the game. Also the game does not have much story in the first place, so even that twist is surprising.
*Zeromus
Completely fair, FF4 is bad AND unfinished, there was supposed to be an entire moon world, but instead all we get is surprise alien from outer space.
*Ultimecia
Brought up from about halfway through the game, and also is Rinoa in the first place, game is a fated circle.
*Necron
Personally unmentioned, but embodies the themes of the game. Possibly referred to with the tree and all.
*Yu Yevon
Come on now, the entire game was about him. He is a shitty boss mechanicaly, we all know the real final boss was Braska's Final Aeon, but you can't say Yu Yevon was out of nowhere.
*Orphan
I guess?
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Can we agree that this is the hardest ultimate so far?
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desu i think kuja is the most nothing villain of the series. his whole arc ends with what could be described as a child's temper tantrum.
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>>740313932
It seems that way. What a nuthouse of an ultimate.
Guess people had it coming after they bitched about FRU being too easy.
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>>740313945
god i forgot about the filter.
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>>740313812
>He's literally the first boss in the game. Also the game does not have much story in the first place, so even that twist is surprising.
It's more of a case of Squaresoft back in the day having the "rescue the princess from the evil knight" D&D adventure be the starting mission to surprise the player with what was awaiting them afterward. But otherwise, Chaos is not mentioned once and you're not given a hint that there's someone allied/controlling the Fiends until the end, which as you said, was done for the sake of the twist. I'm more forgiving on the principle it was the first in the franchise and was very unusal writing at the time, but it's still a final boss that comes out of nowhere.
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>>740313812
Xande
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>>740312243
woolsey is a hack
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>>740309859
Gravity is "just a theory" as well. That isn't the defense you think it is.
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>>740313812
NTA and I think you are right on most of your arguments but the inciting argument here was someone saying that the worst FF final bosses are the ones that just show up of nowhere and while you can argue that Necron still embodies the themes of the game he is still literally just a boss that shows up out of nowhere and is a valid answer to the demand to "name 1 villain" who fits that criteria.
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so pic related wasnt a phase but probably the end of the fight result? Or MAYBE this fight has 6 phases? Would be cool
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>>740312243
If that was truly the case Square should have made an effort to have subsequent versions of the game receive better translations, but not only that didn't happen, people started praising the sloppy job Woolsey did, so pardon me for not sharing the sentiment.
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>>740312794
This is one of the few things AI is actually good at. You're full of shit and took a retard community's words at face value.
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>>740313190
>Necron
The only one that even fits.
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>>740309859
>>740314079
you guys are mixing hypothesis and theory
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>>740313017
Ultros crashing the opera was them making fun of themselves doing this, or at least that's how it seemed to me
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>>740314202
You are a jeet or an AI yourself.
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>>740314202
A lot of the seethe that anons have for AI is rooted in the truth that they can't flim flam retards with their hot schizo takes on hard sciences nearly as effectively as they could before.
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grok is this true
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>>740313098
you can't seethe and spout bullshit because i'll just consult the reddit-scraping machine and it'll tell me i'm a smart boy
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>>740313945
>his whole arc ends with what could be described as a child's temper tantrum.
Why is that a bad thing?
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>>740314079
Heat death is just one theory for how the Universe could go
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>AI is almost nothing but retard confidence and hallucinations that folds the second it's challenged but it's good when it supports my narrative
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>>740314108
It still bothers me that they didn't use Hades like they were supposed to. He still would have been out of nowhere, but it would have made more sense.
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>>740314440
Claude is a bit better from my experience
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>>740314140
It could just be a mechanic in his last phase.
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>>740314440
i have consulted the "tell me i'm right" machine and it told me i was right so heh.... good luck pal
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>>740314440
We get it, ya mad
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>>740309587
why would you lie like that
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>>740305297
>what makes your existence worth doing?
Anything. Everything. Do what you want.
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>>740314450
There was something they were building up to early on in the game that they just dropped. Remember how all the summons are tied to a certain gemstone? And then Alexander is from the Alexandrian crystal Brahne is chasing the whole game?
Hades/Necron is the eidolon of THE Crystal. All life returns there, and death is the one thing all life shares in common, so that's the eidolon generated in the Crystal.
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>>740305297
Fpbp. And always the sea of seethe
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AI really makes sciencelets hot under the collar.
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>>740309587
no Warring Triad?
soulless trash Ultimate
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>>740312549
Don't ask ai and you'll find that the CMB no longer matches what we have actually observed. Galaxies are brighter, bigger and most strikingly more abundant then they should be. The bandaid excuse for this is the big bang must have been bigger and bangier then we thought! But that doesn't make sense because the theory is based off and hinges on the CMB. Also YES some scientists are upset about it (like Neil Degrasse Tyson) because it basically mean they are back square one and have a shit load of work to do.
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>>740314440
An LLM is useful only if you stop treating it like an oracle and start treating it like a processor.
If you use AI to tell you what is objectively true, it is useless. If you use it to manipulate, reformat, or generate permutations of information you already understand, it is highly efficient.
Where the Utility Actually Is
1. Frictionless Synthesis and Reformatting
AI excels at structural transformation because syntax and grammar are purely statistical.
Examples: Turning raw meeting notes into a clean bulleted list, converting code from Python to JavaScript, or extracting key themes from a 50-page document you provide.
Why it works: You supply the source truth; the AI just handles the tedious labor of formatting.
2. A "Rubber Duck" for Brainstorming
The mirroring effect that makes AI bad at objective truth makes it excellent for divergent thinking.
Examples: Generating 50 variations of a product name, finding edge cases in a software architecture plan, or playing devil's advocate against your own arguments.
Why it works: It acts as a massive, instant index of cultural and linguistic associations. It doesn't need to be "right" to spark an idea you hadn't considered.
3. Pattern Recognition in Coding and Logic
Code is deterministic and heavily documented online, making its statistical patterns highly reliable.
Examples: Writing boilerplate code, identifying syntax errors, or explaining what a complex, undocumented function does.
Why it works: Programming languages have rigid rules, reducing the surface area for hallucinations compared to open-ended human history or philosophy.
The Bottom Line: AI is a tireless, highly articulate intern with no common sense and a tendency to lie when cornered. If you don't verify its output, it is a liability. If you direct it precisely and audit its work, it eliminates hours of mechanical cognitive labor.
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>>740314545
This has to be the worst final form of any ultimates.
His weapon looks like it's from Card Captor Sakura
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>>740314735
lol
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>>740313812
>Possibly referred to with the tree and all.
People STILL believe this retarded GameFAQs shit? Goddamn, "Necron is the Iifa tree" is a bigger fucking psyop than R=U.
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>>740314738
he's just clowning around
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>>740314738
You're fighting an evil clown and expecting him to take things seriously?
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>>740314545
>time to read to children at the library!
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>>740314810
>he missed Garland pointing out the Iifa Tree's core in the Terran sky where souls are processed
>he missed how killing Necron stops the proper function of the Iifa Tree
>he missed that the party dies to get to Necron, meaning they are sent to the Tree's heart for processing
lol
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>>740314850
one that's realized he's not real and so even for a simulation of a nihilistic guy nothing he does matters, too
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>>740305297
On a grander scale its true life is nothing but a cosmic spec. All I can do is provide my own meaning day by day and seek fulfillment in my hobbies. Eventually I will die, and that sucks, but until then I can experience some kino media and fuck around with my friends.
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>>740304994
I like Kefka but good god why did Millennials overrate him so much?
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>>740313569
Einstein was literally jewish
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>>740305297
You are fooling yourself if you think the universe just so happened to create life and a suitable environment on the first try.
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>>740313172
The irony of you citing dunning-krueger when you're the one on the peak of mount stupid about a topic you know nothing about.

>>740314996
And you're stupid enough to believe everything he ever said is wrong as a result.
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>>740314996
ngmi
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>everyone wants to fuck Kefka now
What happened? Did the FFXIV raid made him popular again?
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/v/'s recent contrarian penchant against Kefka as a character is something I don't quite understand. What exactly is it about his characterization, presentation, or role within the narrative that makes people here want to label him a bad villain?
>he is not morally complex! His justifications are stupid and he is easily proven to be pathetic!
Ok, and? This is a game for children. And besides, how much gray morality you can attribute to the villain in your story is not directly linked with good writing or "complexity".
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>>740314969
people like clowns. same reason zoomers gravitated towards chuck E cheese robots
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>>740314675
Wrong again.
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>>740314545
ok he fueses with them but where the fuck does his weapon cames from? It makes no sense at all
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>/v/ hates the "villain is evil because HE JUST IS OKAY?" trope
>but kefka is somehow exempt and considered one of the best villains in video games
explain yourselves
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>>740315081
kefka is routinely sighted as the main attraction of ff6 and consistently appears 'top 10 video game villains'

its not that surprising. personally i think its breaking the ice for an FF6 remake. which i desperately do not want
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>>740315165
That villain motivation tiers image was always a shitpost.
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>>740315194
cited
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>>740315194
>kefka is routinely sighted as the main attraction of ff6
By retards who never actually played ffvi maybe
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>>740314738
nooo the zany jester god looks weird? wahhhh
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>>740315194
>which i desperately do not want
It would be cool to have that desu
>Maria and Dracon full HD sequence
Anon please think about this
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>>740315301
how dare this boss take the piss against me
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>>740315165
I think it's an oversaturation thing.
A relatable and justified villain can be really good.
But sometimes you just want a wicked piece of shit who just likes to destroy things.
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>>740314819
>>740314850
>>740315301
>it's a clown so he has to look like shit
nah
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>>740315165
We know why he is so fucked up, though. What you are complaining about is that he is not morally gray.
Also
>implying half this thread isn't disingenuously shitting on him
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>>740315350
You dumb motherfuckers never learn.
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>>740315090
He works as a force of nature, an external conflict. In deeper stories the conflict is internal, you can't resolve it destroying a bad guy. Still, it works
>>740315165
/v/ isn't one person
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>>740315363
>why isn't this guy fucking with me taking it seriously
and other fedora debate-lord hits
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>>740315350
https://youtu.be/kdot7vHzmZg

do you need more?
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>>740315352
Super cereal.
>>740315363
Man, you have literally every other boss to be super serious. Kefka being completely deadpan serious would be soulless as hell.
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>>740304994
Why did you make the same threadn in /v/ and /vr/? are you the same guy that post the same threads in /co/ and /tv/ at the same time?
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>>740315481
yes
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>>740315363
Yeah, he's a clown, man. Fucking with people and looking goofy while doing it is what clowns do. The fact that you have a response at all to it means that thematically, the design is working. I don't even disagree with you that the design looks goofy, the divide here is that (you) are not in on the joke, but if Kefka was real I'm sure he would fucking love that you're not.
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>>740315353
What make an antagonist "a villain"? If his actions aren't born from evil, just because he goes against our morals then it's a villain? Bondrewd from made in abyss is a villain?
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>>740315416
>>740315494
I'm not asking for him to be serious, I just don't want it to look like ass.
Reading comprehension really is at an all-time low
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>>740315481
>man_listening_to_$3000_headphones_in_pain.webm
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>>740313036
She's possessing Edea the entire time, she's not introduced right at the end.
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>>740315363
What, does the clown scare you? Pathetic
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>>740315042
Why do you think it's the first try? There's nothing to support that.
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>>740313017
A lot of replies to this mistaking "final boss fight" with "narrative antagonist"
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>>740315623
Not him, I called him a tranny ready to go read to kids at the library.
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>>740315758
>its actually the ending
FUCK
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>>740315127
>zoomers gravitated towards chuck E cheese robots
What about Pomni then?
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>>740315758
This should have been a phase and not the flagrant re-use of assets in phase 3 and 4.
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>>740315743
Yeah dude he's so scary with his little gay anime weapon, fucking idiot.
Who invited Indians in the thread?
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>>740315638
It's a very comprehensive, self-clarifying and objective descriptor
>like ass
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>>740315758
since this
>>740314140
is on a totlly diffrent area I expect it to be a phase at some point
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>>740315924
If anyone did, it was you Americans, you're as much of a third world country as India
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>>740315823
He'd probably call that a great idea and thank you for it before planting a pipe bomb in the library. Can't outclown the clown.
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>>740315758
another puzzle mechanic? lol
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>>740315758
wait
IS THIS ANOTHER FAKE ENDING????
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Love how all the tards freaking out about FRU being too easy are now having melties because they're being challenged too much.
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>>740316031
I'm not American you cocksucking cum-guzzler, try again
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>>740315758
someone plece tell us what is he saiying
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>>740316148
You certainly act like one
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>>740316117
same thing happened with DSR > TOP
>noooo it's not hard enough give me a harder fight!!!!
>nooo not like this it's too hard I need cheats help me plugin-sama
it's always like this
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I wanna live here
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>>740312585
This is the right answer and it extends to all languages
https://dyssebeia.wordpress.com/2013/07/28/all-translations-are-evil-i-kafka/

But like others pointed out, people don't have time and there's money to be made
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>>740305297
It's funny how defensive people get over a pretty inoffensive and objective summary of our existence. They really want life to have some intrinsic purpose, but the only meaning that exists is the one you apply to it.
I, personally, believe our greatest purpose is to endeavor to branch off this planet to exist long enough just for the possibility to unravel every last secret of the universe.
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>>740304994
Is this the most vapid trope ever?
>everything is pointless, struggle is meaningless
>actually this padded out self fellating drama justifies our existence so we'll kill you by mashing attack and doing 9999 damage 400 times a turn
No meaning in the struggle, because the journey to the end was a braindead melodrama with no gameplay. Like if you look at like ketsui kizuna jigoku tachi, there's a theme of resolve and resilience in the face of overwhelming odds. The definition of ketsui is quite literally to commit to a path and never look back, to make a final stand in the face of death devoid of hesitation or self-preservation instinct, the warrior mindset. The struggle on the path is what gives that journey meaning and grows character, and the player can experience that first hand as they push through a seemingly impossible task. And as you enter the final stage you know you've grown as the music stops being bleak and becomes a funky groove as your resolve hardens and you pull off the impossible.
https://youtu.be/ZYcFBpG0AXg
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>>740316094
Depends. What does the dialogue say?
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>>740316524
you did it wrong again
and then laughs
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>>740316272
Kek. True.
Though in TOP's case, it was at least bugged pretty considerably, no?
But yeah, the ebb and flow of "too easy" "too hard" is always hilarious to see. And they will never acknowledge they are the one creating the tug of war. Same with savage.
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>>740316578
And what does the duty completion text say? Failed? Or something?
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>>740305297
Atheism is a joke, and a endless source of ignorance.
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atheists be like yeah nothing existed then everything existed also there's nothing after you die and nothing happens because it's infinite nothingness which is how we were made anyways but it'll never happen again because i said so
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>>740316681
You have something very in common with your version of Atheism then.
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>>740316931
All your words are spoken in ignorance.
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>>740316178
its a bit unclear, but he's saying 'try not to cheat next time'

its a fake ending
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>>740316992
>>740316931
your mom suck me good and hard thru my jorts
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>>740316791
I'm basically an athiest but don't believe the universe has a beginning, that is just an assumption from our lives having a beginning and an end
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>>740316584
>Though in TOP's case, it was at least bugged pretty considerably, no?
yeah it had issues, IIRC the boss would randomly ignore aggro and target healers in P3 and then the whole buff cap thing (which is not strictly a TOP issue but a problem in the game as a whole)
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>>740317040
Project harder, son of a whore.
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>>740316681
>>740316791
for me a distinction should be made between believing in a personal God who watches us and judges us, and a God who exists, has created us, but is completely neutral and does not want to be prayed to. In short, between a god to whom you must submit and a God as pure nature, if tomorrow we discovered that God really exists, but is precisely devoid of will or judgment, would it be fine for the faithful just the same?
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>>740317120
Your mother is a dog bastard bitch!!!
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>>740315758
someone translatem this
this is not the you cleared ultimate text
what does it says???
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>>740317030
for real? 4 or 5 phase having another puzzle would be kino
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>>740317030
>'try not to cheat next time'
is this actually a response to cheating? because I would kek my brains out
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>>740317326
probably an intentionally placed mechanic cheese
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>>740305297
Behold, the last man.
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>"XIV's jobs are boring/homogenized for the sake of balance"
>"Wouldn't want a few classes to be objectively better after all, everybody would just have to play them!"
>Every single prog group right now has a DRK and a SCH
I hope evolved mode throws it all out the window for the sake of making things more fun, the system was a failure
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>>740305297
spbp of all time
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>>740305297
Wow.
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>>740313945
KUJA IS NOT A VILLAIN
DAILY REMINDER HE'S A TRAGIC ANTI-VILLAIN THAT GETS REDEMPTION IN THE END AND SAVES THE GANG TELEPORTING THEM TO SAFETY AT HIS EXPENSE
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>>740317476
the last man is who has their little pleasures for the day, and their little pleasures for the night, and they stopped being ambitious.
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>>740312726
a group got through p3 this morning and died to the grand cross setup in p4
p5 hasn't been seen yet but everyone's saying the leaked model is final kefka
pixel kefka looks like it's in the p3/4 arena with the forsaken background so it's likely up next, weird that they'd put two cutscenes in one fight though
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>>740317698
>he's not a villain because he says sorry after you beat his ass
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>>740317698
guy who instigates the majority of the plot, first as a false-flag and then for real, is not the villain
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>>740317698
>create a war
>kills a lot of people
>yeah.... sorry.... dies

sure anon
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>>740308584
get new material already, spic
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>>740317518
this also happened in most ultimates, war and sge are for shitters and if you're not a shadowbaby it shouldn't be a surprise
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>>740305297
>he believes in evolution and chance
kek
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>>740317228
it's chinese
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>>740304994
I SHALL CREATE A MONUMENT TO NON-EXISTENCE!!
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>>740317973
>non-existence
>monument
contradictory
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>>740305297
What is life? What is flesh?
What is intelligence and Ego?
Are you saying my body burning glucose for energy is the same as the stars colliding and releasing massive energy? Are we just... machines in a different form?
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>>740317956
lmao get a load of this faggot
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>>740311280
>>740312857
Retarded underage fag, shut your fucking mouth retard
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>>740316791
We don't know what came before. It's possible there was another universe before that collapsed to create ours, but we don't know. We simply don't presume to have the answer.
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>>740318723
>no argument
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>>740305297
>heat death
(LOL)
10^10^10^56 years from now humans recreate the big bang, by that point humanity has a complete understanding of the universes model, all the surviving inhabitants of the universe do, so it's not that hard for us to recreate the conditions of the big bang, to "reboot" the universe.
the problem is that it really is impossible to survive those conditions, so then you might ask, how does humanity survive?
einstein-rosen bridges, you see there is no need to survive the "big bang" when instead we can just skip it, but wait, thats impossible! you cant just traverse a black hole! NO!
WE STRIP THAT SINGULARITY BARE
THE UNIVERSE CRIES OUT
it cannot even begin to understand what is happening, but... it's too late...
no amount of tears will undo what is about to take place... time is not a liquid, after all
WITH OUR BIG HUMAN COCK WE FORCE IT OPEN!
HUMANITY FILLS THAT HOLE FULL UNTIL IT TURNS WHITE!
WHO THE FUCK DO YOU THINK INVENTED ENTROPY, HUH!!!??!!?
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>>740318640
>Are you saying my body burning glucose for energy is the same as the stars colliding and releasing massive energy
No, they're not. One is leveraging the energy of chemical bonds (electromagnetic). Energy emitted from a star comes from nuclear fusion, which is the Strong Nuclear force.

Two different sources.
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>>740317956
>he believes in a benevolent god that would rather make 200,000 different kinds of insects than humans that don't grow cancer
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>>740318820
>Thinking anyone would argue with a retard
Not today, Timmy.
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>>740318820
Oversimplified, mocking hyperbole isn't an argument either.
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>>740305297
All these replies and not a single valid refutation. Incredible.
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>>740318926
depends on the limits of our abilities.
if the possibilities are infinite, then we'll unveil the secrets of the universe and learn to manipulate it to our heart's content within a fraction of the time it'll take for the hypothetical heat death of the universe to even become a concern
that is assuming there is no aforementioned limit to what we, as humans, can do. or that we don't die long before that due to something beyond our control
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>>740305297
>>740304994
The Meaning of Life
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buqtdpuZxvk&list=RDbuqtdpuZxvk&start_radio=1
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>>740319025
something something sin
something something free will
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>>740317170
-What makes think that the God you believe in isn't just something else or exist as more than one entity?
-What makes you think the Devil and God are separate entities?
-What makes you think God isn't just trolling humanity for kicks?
-What makes you even think that God even give a shit about humanity?
-What makes you think that God favors humans instead of aliens from another planet?
-What makes you think that the Bible written by humans is the word of God when all you have is their claim?
-If you lifeforms are too complex for evolution to occur naturally, then how do you explain how God came to be? If you just say its by magic or that he existed at all times, why can't you say that animals always existed or spontaneously appeared?
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>>740318926
What if we all just jump in a whitehole while universe expands around us?
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>>740319025
>can only argue against his childish protestant marvel superhero interpretation of God
Every time.
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>>740310163
>they still hold great meaning
lmao

>It is insecurity and paranoia mixed with depression masquarading as philosophy with a dash of sophistry.
Aside from the depression (maybe?), you have just described your own post.
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>>740318994
Based
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>>740309436
>achieves immortality
>trapped forever in the cycle of Samsara
>no way out not even death
Awakening ascension is the only answer
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>>740319419
the deep and Understanding interpretation of god is belief in a trinity that makes it okay to worship jesus without it being idolatry against god
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>>740319419
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>>740319564
Please keep proving that your seethe is exclusive to Christianity.
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>>740310893
with perfect health the brain will just get more and more complex/wrinkly there is huge capacity in our brains
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>>740316510
>trying to make a point while being the onimai avatarfag
>>740316791
>>740317956
theists be like "yeah nothing existed and then muh deity made everything exist and muh deity said to be good or you'd suffer for a billion years and btw farting in an elevator once is severe enough for 1000000000 years in hell"
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>>740318994
Doesn't change anything
>Over an average lifetime (~79 years), the human body expends roughly **66.6 million kilocalories**, which converts to about **279 Gigajoules (GJ)** of energy. [Biology Insights](https://biologyinsights.com/how-much-energy-does-the-human-body-produce-in-a-lifetime/) That's your body's total "fuel bill" from birth to death.

>For context, the body runs at a basal metabolic rate of about **80 watts** — similar to an old incandescent light bulb. [Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_equivalent)

>The remarkable thing is how *efficient* biology is. Research published in *Science* found that total energy expenditure actually stays remarkably stable from ages 20–60, only declining in older adulthood [Northwestern Feinberg](https://news.feinberg.northwestern.edu/2021/09/17/study-explores-human-energy-expenditure-over-the-lifespan/) — meaning your body maintains that ~80-watt output with extraordinary consistency for decades, fueled entirely by food.

We are an extremely efficient energy making machines. That's it.
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>>740319651
just know going into this anon that i completely reject plato's argument of a platonic ideal for deities where perfection and benevolence are requirements for deific status
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>>740318789
>casually admitting your IQ is in the double digits
Imagine being dumber than >>740319751 and being proud of it.
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>>740304994
so like every shitty jrpg?
>>740305297
yea, life itself is a waste of time and nothing matters in the grand scheme of things, mankind is just a a drop of water in an ocean, but despite that mankind should keep fighting and making a better World
To give up is just giving a finger to your ancestors who fought despite everything
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>>740319760
That's because you don't understand the argument.
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>>740304994
Correct.
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>>740319854
>i don't understand plato's false premise
worship marble busts on twitter, anon
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>>740319512
I don't think we're talking immortality as in impervious to everything. Just unable to die from age or sickness.
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>>740319902
>i don't understand plato's false premise
I know you don't.
>worship marble busts on twitter
Nah I'm good. You let me know how that goes.
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>>740319751
The fuck are you talking about?
The post I responded to asked if they were the same thing. They're not, the physics is different. That's all I was pointing out
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>>740319970
interesting decision to not contest plato's argument as a false premise
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>>740319902
>if God is good by definition then why don't i have a billion dollars and a vagina?! plato didn't think about that huh?
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>>740319958
in that case people will kill themselves after some time
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>>740320032
I did that here >>740319854 and I guess I wrongfully assumed that you understood that. Or maybe you do understand that and you're just having a kike moment.
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>>740320041
was he good by definition or was plato just making shit up and asserting it as fact?
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>>740319317
1 - Because the Bible presents God as a single divine being. Christians accept this through trust in biblical revelation. It is not something that can be proven scientifically; it is a belief based on faith and the interpretation of Scripture.

2 - Because the Bible describes Satan as a being created by God who rebelled against Him. Therefore, God and Satan have different natures, characters, and purposes, and are distinct beings.

3 - Because, according to the Bible, God demonstrates love and concern for human beings, culminating in the sacrifice of Jesus. In Christian logic, someone who gives their own life to save others is not simply playing games with them.

4 - Because the entire biblical narrative revolves around God's relationship with human beings: creation, care, guidance, salvation, and the promise of restoration. For Christians, this is evidence of divine interest in humanity.

5 - Christianity does not explicitly teach about extraterrestrial life. The Bible was written for humanity and specifically addresses the plan of salvation for Earth. Therefore, it is not a matter of favoritism, but of the focus of the message.

6 - Because Christians believe that God inspired the biblical authors. The Christian argument often points to the unity of the biblical message, its prophecies, its historical influence, and the personal experience of believers. However, it is true that, ultimately, this involves accepting the Bible's own claim and the evidence considered by believers.

7 - The Christian response is that God is not seen as a created being nor as part of the universe. He is considered an eternal and necessary being, while animals and the universe are considered contingent, that is, dependent on a cause for their existence. Therefore, Christianity affirms that God does not need a creator, but creation does. Those who argue that the universe or life has always existed are proposing a different explanation for the origin of things.
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>>740320075
that post doesn't even remotely imply that you agree the platonic ideal of a deity is a false premise
you have to use words and not make everybody divine intent from one sentence anon
and crying about kikes at the last second is also bad civilization
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>>740320112
Welp articulated, but man, knowing full grown adults LARP their fiction this hard can be really discouraging if you think about it too hard
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>>740320059
Of course. They'd eventually get tired of life.
But the option - therein lies the beauty.
Whether they wanna live a 100 years, or 500, or 2000, or even 1.000.000 (assuming we can find ways for the brain to store that much information that someone can live for that long)
Admittedly, paranoia would probably also rise, as the longer you live, the higher your odds of death through incident would be, and accordingly, the longer you are able to live, the more years you have to lose if you should find yourself dying to some kind of accident. But such would be life.
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>>740320089
A perfect being must be good by definition because that's what perfection means. A moral foundation for creation must be good by definition because all of said foundation's would be in keeping with universal law.
Your idea of benevolence is just childish and self-centered.

>>740320162
It actually does imply that by asserting that you reject the arguments because you don't understand them. Do I need to clarify again in each post I make that you're stupid? I can do that for you if that helps.
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>>740304994
yes the boss is a nihilistic faggot that is why you're fucking fighting him
retard
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>>740320176
You're absolutely right my fellow adult human male, I too chuckled to myself at this prole's deranged ramblings as I continued consuming Joe Rogan and Niel DeGrasse Tyson.
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>>740314140
Set the weather to #175 if you want the final phase arena that doesn't look like jumbled mess.
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>>740305297
my existence has worth because i deem it has worth, i have the capacity to do so and better means than other animals

you have limited time on this plane of existence, don't waste it being a faggot dooming over things not mattering and find your own meaning
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no one cares about this ultimate
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>>740320112
So basically the only argument is 'according to the bible' written by humans
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>>740320247
You wrote one sentence and expected anybody to formulate an entire argument from it, anon, don't make yourself into a lolcow.
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>>740320462
It really does boil down to "cuz bok sez so", and even then most of the time the book doesn't even say so. Especially if you look at today's "Christians" and how they act
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>>740320532
No, I expected you to understand that I rejected your position of Plato's arguments being a false premise based on the fact that I said exactly that just one post prior. And apparently I was wrong to put that much faith in your ability.
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>>740320462
>God translates divine language into human language so that humans can understand
>lol no bro it's written by humans
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>>740320247
when did perfection mean good? a creature that encompasses everything can't be good, it must also encompass evil and one of christianity's biggest foibles and flimsiest points is in positing god as an all-encompassing divinity that also needs evil counterbalances because of the zoroastrianism tacked onto judaism, a literary work where god's hypocrisy is brought up a few times and angels have the capability to plot against their creator

this is why plato is the epitome of "opinion, ancient greece:" thinking, his concept of a platonic ideal is religious homogenization and safe-for-the-masses changes. much like job design in my favorite MMORPG, final fantasy XIV, an award-winning game with a free trial extending up to the hit expansion, shadowbringers
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>>740309859
>Heat death is just a theory.
A theory, you say?
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>>740310761
>just be happy bro!
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>>740305297
Cant say I relate
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>>740320663
Humans can't even prove its from God, better hope it isn't from the Devil.
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>>740304994
When did the internet turn into a bunch of Kefkas?
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>>740320827
When occupy wall street failed and was subverted by the rich into a useless internet-and-college campus culture war



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