18 years later and /v/ STILL can't refute this statement
>>740310960Things don't have to be rational to be coherent.
>>740310960Schopenhauer talks about that, about living being a constant suffering but at the same time human nature compels us to keep living and suffering, i don't agree but yeah
The fuck's there to dispute? This is entry-level art student philosophy and barely worth conversation to begin with? Thats real neat that a cartoon character has a mainstream opinion, I guess.
>>740310960Refute this
Buying day 1
Whomever wrote this has never been within 100 miles of a suicidal thought.I'd fucking fucking love to die but I don't want it to drag down the living people remaining in my life
>>740310960All living creatures have an instinctual desire to keep living. That is the consequence of evolving over millions of years and not going extinct.So combine that with suffering and you have a conflict.
>>740312457>remake is of the original version and not goldenimagine if that's actually the case...
>>740312457I have no idea what those Japanese ratings mean, but nothing in P4 or P4 Golden warranted a rating higher than a PG-13 at most. The lower rating might just mean Japan is growing pubes finally.
>>740310960>feel directionless in a cold, uncaring world and need help>OMG JUST KILL YOURSELF YOU FUCKING LOSER>inb4 'Yes' bots
>>740310960and thus conscience doth make cowards of us all
17 years later and normalfags are still too stupid to understand kanji isn’t gay and naoto’s internal conflict was about how to be a cute womanly woman and still be taken seriously in a shogunisitic career.
>>740312969If persona games are really pg 13 that makes stuff like the Witcher and god of war and gears like a soft pg at most
>>740312457What is there to refute?Just like P3R, its based on the original version and not Golden
>>740313184Can't comment as I haven't played those. But Persona isn't as "deep" or even violent (lol) as you might think it is?
>>740313089Reminder it WILL get a thousand times worse when the remake comes out and Nu Translators fall for the bait
>>740313184?? witcher and god of war have explicit gore and sex scenes persona is your average teen fiction, vidya equivalent of YA novels
>>740313076Yest. bot
>>740313376It is very funny how people legitimize bullying Kanji by seeing him as gay
>>740313076Okay bot
>>740313376The modern world now enforces gender roles 10x more than ever before>kanji like sewing? He MUST BE GAY YASS QWEEN>Naoto is tired of being underestimated due to being a small girl?>She must be a transmen, YASSActually they never say "Yes King" to a "transman". Weird.
>>740313383>gore and sex equal maturity Xenoblade 2 has on screen infanticide. It’s leagues more mature than any western game
I enjoy reading the posts of anons who hate themselves, hate their lives, and who will never do anything to change that. What kind of person does that make me?
>>740313383You must be underage. Is Wolverine deep and mature because there is a bunch of gore even though
>>740313704*it’s a property and his character is meant for 8-12 year olds?
>>740313679A narcissist who's just as bad but can't admit it
>>740313652>>740313704>exactly a minute between the postswe're talking about age ratings retard
>>740313761Exactly we are mocking how ridiculously western ratings are or just flat out wrong in their categorization
>>740313376Not even modern localisers, even the Japs might go that route.Knowing how to read moonrunes will not save me from the faggotry.
>>740310960being sick of your life but not wanting to die either is perfectly reasonable, what isn't reasonable is murdering people for some kicks. Yukiko being a naive idealistic teenager of course can't understand, but telling the town's serial killer to kill himself is also perfectly reasonable stance to take. of course this place and many other places are filled with extremely stupid people who cannot understand the concept of character writing and take all text as the author's mouthpiece
>>740313376I can buy the angle that Kanji is at least bisexual, he did want Naoto when he thought she was a dude afterall. but his girlish hobbies have nothing to do with his sexuality.
>>740313376>ignores all the shadow lore, context and shadow of kanji in order to cherrypick this one statement that still fits in with Kanji being biYou are literally the one misunderstanding that cherrypicked line of kanjiThe naoto thing is correct tho
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>>740310960I wouldn't expect a foid to understand. I do understand how and why foids destroy their sons, it's just in their nature.
>>740312881Lol people always bitch and moan about suffering like it’s so bad. If you had ever actually suffered you would love life.
>>740310960this bitch gave me a irreversible pantyhose fetish for the rest of my life
>>740314003/thread
>>740313904But if japs go that route then you're doomed either way
>>740313760I have no excess of self love and I dont think im better than them. I just find their misery posts entertaining to read.
>>740314384>Shadow of KanjiYou're a retardThey literally spell out for you in game thay shadows in the TV are what people of inaba perceived a person to be
Can't wait for the remake to come out and get a new wave of>Kanji needs to be gay!>Naoto needs to be trans!>Chie needs to be a lesbian!>Yukiko needs to be a city wageslave!>Rise needs to stop being an idol!
>>740313652It's offscreen by definition, because it cuts to black, you imbecile
>>740310960Not sure which part I'm supposed to be refuting, but it makes perfect sense. Suffering in life doesn't mean you stop fearing death.
>>740315803That one line is an assumption of Yosuke and you’re completely taking it out of context considering nobody in inaba saw Kanji as a flaming homo, Yukiko as a princess, Yosuke and Chie never appear in television. It also goes against the lore of what a persona and a shadow even is. Moreover what Yosuke’s line is talking about is who the people see in the midnight channel before they get thrown in, which triggers namatame into action. Kanji himself says hes scared shitless of being rejected, this can apply to both his hobbies and who he likes in terms of sexual attraction. They keep it nebulous for obvious reasons but still allude to it with Yosuke’s homophobia and Kanji never outright denying liking men.
>>740313652>>740313761Damn...as expected from Takahashi's high brow franchise. You'd expect deep content that is better and deeper than the majority of western media.
What is it about JRPGS. Atlus specifically that filters the normalfag audience so hard? Too smart for them?
>>740314632>living because you enjoy sufferingu wot m8
>>740316703>considering nobody in inaba saw Kanji as a flaming homo, Yukiko as a princess,You never played this game, I fucking hate when secondaries act like they have
>>740313376>Reminder that /thing that you hate/ will happen!Fuck off with your scrip bullshit.
>>740316965I did play it. Nobody in inaba except the protagonists party see Kanji interacting with naoto. When he appears in television he literally just beat up an entire biker gang, there is nothing homo about this.Nobody knew about his knitting hobbies or liking cute things either. From the moment kanjis arc starts the parties first impression of him as well as the schools is that he is a dangerous and rebellious delinquent who doesn’t go to school often, absolutely nothing that can point to people seeing him as a flaming homosexual.We can take this even further, you ask naoto specifically about him being a “little odd” so teddie can pickup his scent, tell me why teddie would need details about a person’s insecurities to track them down if shadows are just what “the public percieves them to be”? You don’t have a point lol.I know these details because I have played this game 5 times and I am not a retard averse to anything homo-related. You can hate homo’s without being a complete retard about what the game tells you.
>>740317390Stop replying to me because you're angry for being called out. Nobody cares whay you have to say anymore
>>740316965>cuts out the part of chie and yosuke>copes entirely on the Yukiko part because inheriting a famous inn “can be seen as a princess” if everyones imagination is flanderized enough>since rise is an idol its easy to see her as a slut so your stretching of the entire point can finally be “proved” here>except that teddie never appears in television>neither does Mitsuo>Nobody knows about Naoto’s insecurities either and everyone calls her a “prince” so the people she works with already think shes a boy because of her crossdressing so yes this totally means people are “percieving” her shadow to be a little boy that wants to perform body alteration surgery on a woman>namatames shadow is born right at the moment in a dungeon made out of everything inside of nanakos heart because of course everyone in inaba knows nanakos mom died when she was young, lets not forget that she doesn’t spawn a shadow
>>740310960>Beign lectured by a nerdy teenager.No wonder why he wants to kill them.
Didn't I tell this dork to stop replying? They never listen, probably why they dont play the game in the first place.
>>740318364Yukiko is a gigastacy. Embarrassing post.
>>740318251>I am angry for being called outYou’re coping so much. This is a very funny way for you to say you don’t have an argument to any of the facts and details pointed out
>>740318374Nigga you are seething like crazy. Are you one of those discord raiders? You type like one
>>740318568>NiggaZoom zoom detected.
adachi was wrong, because adachi just had to be born a woman and it would have been fine.you see, i would have married and supported female adachi, and had a family with her.but instead, adachi chose to be born a man, and thus became an incel. so its his own fault.
>>740318251I actually read his post and I'm convinced
>>740313625>Actually they never say "Yes King" to a "transman". Weird.Nobody really cares about transmen. I'm not 100% certain why this is, but 99.999% of the time anyone makes a mention of a trans person, it's a trans woman they are talking about. The obvious component is closeted gay/whatever men wanting to fuck trans women, getting VERY loud and weird about this, but there's definitely more to it than I know of. Statistically, there's a similar number of both, but I think I have only encountered one trans man in the wild, compared to the several dozen trans women. So idk
>>740310960only those who've been there can understand, it's pointless to try and explainnot to justify the actions of what's-his-name in the background, but plenty of good men had to fight that battle as well – and in the meantime be kept alive by that stubborn instinct
>>740316965shadows as a concept make no fucking sense if its from outside opinions.the whole point of shadows is to face your inner fear and trauma.kanji is obsessed with being a man. he was terrified of the idea of being feminine and gay, and he schism coped by trying harder and harder to be a 'man'.the reconciliation for him was to acknowledge his fears, and that he is allowed to be 'himself', that it would be okay even if he was a fag. only then does kanji gain the ability to not have his life be ruled by his fears of that, and can start being his 'real' self, without apology -- he can form his own definition of what it means to be a man, by being himself.(which by the way does not mean kanji is a fag, it just means he would no longer hate himself if he was one.)
>>740318681Why do you think I stopped responding to him kek
>>740318465Looks like a nerd to me, even her name is nerdy as fuck.
THIS is your mastermind villain?
>>740312920I could see them release a remake of vanilla P4 since P4G is out for all current platforms. Just like they remade P3 without any of the P3P content.
