Is God of War the most abhorrent example of an old franchise being turned to shit? Nu-Soitos is a fucking disgrace
>>740315135I like it
>>740315135Modern FF, FE, MK, and RE are all shit too, they are all completely different games now with completely different fanbases. I don't know if GoW is the worst because I've never been a fan (I've only played GoW1 and GoW 2018 and didn't love either of them).
>>740315135I think silent hill still holds that crown. Being raped for 2 decades now.
This nga be lookin zesty fr :joy:
>>740315135the gods all had her, but he married her
>he actually pretended god of war ever had a story that wasn't there to be skipped the second they started talkingIt's the epitome of turn off your brain and just attack and skip any and all cutscenes kind of game.
>>740315501There isn't really any franchise that got better over time if you think about it
>>740315379HaloFrom its highest high to its lowest low the downfall of that series is astronomical
>>740315135I don't care fimor but like realistically where else could it have gone? Kratos completed his revenge arc
>>740315669But you cant skip cutscenes in god of war
>>740315135Silent HillIts identity has been completely obliterated for over two decades and is just now copies of one game (SH2) over and over again
being contrarian isn't a replacement for a personality
>>740315790Well then just put it on mute and scroll 4chan instead. What are you going to miss? >ARRTFGGHNGH I'm ANGY
>>740315825>>740315841>>740315857Hi, just trying to figure this out.Why is the "master race" constantly defeated by their enemies?
>>740315135GTAPokemonzeldasilent hillResident evilTony hawkskateHaloRatchet and clank
What is the dingleberry spamming about?
We must be better men
>>740315905What does that have to do with Silent Hill, schizo
>>740315656Original Kratos would've never married used girl boss goods
>>740315135>turned to
>>740315715Came to say this
>>740315703There is.
But did we ever figure out Why is the "master race" constantly defeated by their enemies?
This game really mindbroke this board
>>740315501This is a lie. All old franchises are played by uncs who grew up with them.
>>740316156original kratos was in a spiral of grief and revenge from the death of his first family so probably wouldn't marry anyone in any case
>>740315135It's close, but I'd say Mortal Kombat is even worse
>>740315135>being turned to shit?According to the Insomniac leaks, nuGOW (2018) has sold over 30 Million (including PC). It won numerous awards incluidng Game of the Year beating Red Dead, has a TV show coming out, and influenced tons of games coming out right now. >Over 30M sold>Numerous awards including GOTY>Transcended videogames into the mainstream with a TV showOnly in /v/ and the incel sphere can nuGOW be called anything except one of the biggest successes in the history of gaming.
>>740316629damn, call of duty must be a masterpiece then...
>>740316726Yes call of duty is good thats why people constantly buy it and play it
>>740316629And yet despite your fake numbers the game is still shitIsnt that funny?
>high sales, critics, audience score on steam/playstationThe game is objectively good.
>>740316872>t-those numbers are fake!!!Holy cope
>>740315703True. Everything moves further and further away from what it once was the more time passes. It's just a sad reality.
>>740315135Cucktos really is the prime example of what a woman wants a modern man to be, submissive, always takes shit from people quietly and obedient to a fault. hard to believe people legitimately like the nu-gow games because even from a purely gaming perspective they're shit
>>740315841>>740316629>>740317006Why do snoys come here instead of staying on the subreddit?Oh yeah, there's nothing to talk about in a Sony-centered space. Especially in terms of gaming.
>>740315905What the fuck are you talking about?
>>740315379this
>>740315135Yes.
>>740317401Why are you here doing the exact same thing :^)Nothing to talk about huh
>>740315135the face of a man who grooms kids on discord. prove me wrong.
>>740315135worse man detected
Second after Donkey Kong
i became a better man because of kratos
I'm having a blast though.If you don't like the games, don't play them.
>>740315135>Nu-SoitosYou had “Gaytos” sitting right there, and that’s what you decided to go with?
>>740315135alright smartass, how would YOU have handled making God of War 4?
>>740315135No that's still Ultima 9.
>>740320681Goes to Egypt, meets new characters, finds a new wife and kills local gods, no son, maybe a hint that he can start a new life there, or that he has to keep travelling. All of that is assuming God of War needed sequels in the first place.
GOOOOOOODS
we must be better posters
>>740315964>Ratchet and clankWhat do you mean? Ratchet and Clank ended with Deadlocked, they never made any games after that, no sir.
>>740317080>Everything moves further and further away from what it once was the more time passesTrue. Look at FromSoft. Elden Ring was so far from Dark Souls 1 that it's fucking jarring.
>>740315135I don’t know how this bald fuck got popular
>>740320165It was that simple
>>740315771Some guy gets betrayed by the War God of a different pantheon. You play as him and kill a different set of Gods instead.
>>740316629Pigs love slop
>>740317197So old Kratos is>constantly manipulated by others>suicidal at all times>angry at everyone especially himself>destroying everyone and everything around him in autistic rageThat’s what a man should be right?
>>740316629something selling doesn't mean it's good>brand recognition>low standards>appealing to lowest common denominatormakes a product attractive to a wider demographic, targetting a less specialized audienceabominations like pokemon scarlet and violet sold millions upon millions and the games struggled to even run for 15 minutes without crashing on launchtake god of war out of the name and there goes half the sales
>>740316482Wrong. Real men cry and go to therapy and move on desu
>>740321574Did original god of war not appeal to the lowest common denominator?
>>740315135i don't think God of War was of particular value in the first place but no doubt the recent games have been awful
>>740315905Because the goyim keep trying to genocide us
>>740321504Unironically that's much closer to true manhood, the thing you're not getting is that nature isn't operated by morals, therefore a man destroying everything in his path doesn't make him a lesser man by default. It may not be your favorite idea of a person but it doesn't detract from his masculinity, factually speaking
>>740321504Old kratos was just a doomed hero in a greek tragedy who in the end just wanted to be left the fuck alone but everyone fucked with him until he completely snapped. And yet he realizes what he's done and has remorse after it's all over. Nu-kratos is just a low test cuck crapping out drivel you hear from "therapists".
>>740317197>Cucktos really is the prime example of what a woman wants a modern man to be,He's what women say they want a man to be not what they actually want.
>>740315135Facts. That's what makes this new controversy so funny to me. Kratos has been cucked and GoW ruined since Dad of Bore was revealed in 2018. Faggots loved that garbage, but now that mc is female....>Nooooo! My game has been ruined!!!! It's the same gay shit, cucks
>>740321642It appealed to male gamers exclusively.
>>740315135>nu-soitosyou need to be killed, this is a level of chud chungalism that can't be left to fester
>>740317197It's a litmus test, not what they want
>>740321371I would like this to be the direction GOW goes in, except instead of a whole different Pantheon the Romans revive the Greek Pantheon with their Roman names and kratos has to defend himself against them since they're basically the same people that remember being killed by him.
>>740321775>He's what women say they want a man to be not what they actually want.Strokepilled
>>740321703>true manhoodPlatonic ideals aren’t real anonManhood is socially constructed and varies from culture to culture
>>740321882Can't call him Kratos if he has nothing in common with the real Kratos, that would be dishonest
>>740321910if my sisters did that to me, i'd slit their throats.nobody betrays the family and gets away with it.
>>740321746>And yet he realizes what he's done and has remorse after it's all over. Nu-kratos is just a low test cuck crapping out drivel you hear from "therapists".Anon you’re just saying nu-Kratos and old Kratos have a lot in common. They both want to be left alone and feel immense remorse for what they’ve done.
>>740315964Bad/unpopular games don't get sequels, good/popular games get washed-out sequels made by passionless people. It all makes sense.
>>740321642yesbut the lowest common denominator wasn't nearly as retarded and detrimental as today's (back then they were graphicwhores that played flashy and R18, albeit simple videogames) so the end game was more fun and many times more of a videogame than nu-gow. It was the gratuituous violence of the time (pushed by GTA) + extremely simple but flashy hack and slash gameplay (inspired by dmc, ninja gaiden, etc)games were short and to the point, and didn't have the head up their asses trying to make videogames into a higher form of "art" for "mature audiences", they were fucking videogamesnu-gow is dragged out, an over the shoulder, pretentious cinematic feelings delivery system open world slop with awful combat camera and constant quipping, every dogshit modern game trend is in there and none of them are in service of making a gamefun
>>740322171One is the main character of a epic greek tragedy with drama and tons of bloodshed, the other is a low test cuck in a fanfiction centering around therapy sessions and picking flowers
>>740321775They say they want nu kratos, when their coochies yearn for true kratos
>>740315135HE BASED. SEETHE INCELS!!
I can save the series: but I have to put a brutal rape scene in the game.This is the only way.
>>740315135No, because the gameplay changes aren't dramatic. The only reason someone would think the series has crashed off a cliff is if they're /pol/niggers who can't separate their fantasy media from the opinions their YouTubers tell them to have.
>>740321882Ywnbarw
>>740315973You know, all this talk about Kratos changing and all the shit people give him for turning into someone else really makes me wonder a few things:Should Kratos have gone through a change at all?Did Kratos deserve to be forgiven and go on his redemption arc?If so many people hate new Kratos, would turning him back into a cold blooded god killer change people's opinion of him positively?Or would a majority of the fanbase suddenly come out of the woodworks and voice THEIR disdain for NEW new Kratos?And honestly, what exactly would a good story about Kratos look like in the modern day if it wasn't being written by the current writers?
>>740321931>he thinks women actually just tell you what they wantDo you actually take dating advice from women?
>>740315501Mortal Kombat, Mario Kart or what?
>>740322568They are.Old god of war games were about bloodshed and carnage. Modern games are about therapy sessions, taking walks and picking flowers.
>>740322769The answer is "No" because Nu God of War has nothing to do with the plot of the original games. It SHOULD have been a new IP telling a new story about a new character, but we live in a late stage capitalism hellscape where turbo corporations use massive amounts of user data to drive their product design, and this ubiquitously tells them "Product is more likely to Capitalism better if it is attached to an IP the audience is already emotionally invested in". So instead of getting New Shit, you get God of War 19, Call of Duty: Blacked Again 7, and Street Fighter 51: The Street Fights Back.
>>740322769they didn't have the balls to show the process of kratos "learning to be a better person" and becoming nu-soitos (because he's a completely different character in gow 2018, down to replacing his VA), and that's why it comes off as dishonest, instead of proper "character development"when you do this kind of stuff offscreen it completely tanks the immersion and makes the character feel replaced for the sake of chasing trends (sad dad games), that's why only tourists swallowed the pill and have been carrying this disgrace since
>>740322769>And honestly, what exactly would a good story about Kratos look like in the modern day if it wasn't being written by the current writers?A battle-hardened god killer trying to find his place in a new world, keeping his edge but not displaying it as much. A faggot would say this is a description of the reboot but we all know the truth
>>740315135not even close, there are much worse examples. FF, Pikmin and Monster Hunter have all suffered much worse fates. you are just an outrage merchant latching onto the newest piece of nonsense to peddle because you care more about being a part of the perpetually buttmad ingroup here
>>740323317>you are just an outrage merchant latching onto the newest piece of nonsense to peddle because you care more about being a part of the perpetually buttmad ingroup here>you cant be mad about your favorite series being ruined, but i can be mad about mine, because its uh more valid, i said socool
>>740323032>They're both about killing monsters and you push buttons in rapid succession to perform attack combos, avoid damage, and execute weakened enemies99% of the difference is the camera (which you'd know if you ever played any of them).End of day: you're a retarded faggot
>>740323417>his favorite series was god of warlol
>>740323485and yours is fucking pikmin, boo fucking hoo
>>740323119This. God of War should have ended with 3. Kratos killed himself. He shoudl have stayed dead. The entire point of his sacrifice at the end of GoW 3 is that he realized he had become the very thing he rebelled against, and not only killed all the Gods, but destroyed the very power of the Gods itself. He left the lives and destiny of mortals to themselves, no longer the playthings of Gods like him, Zeus, Poseidon, or anyone else.Except he didn't die because LMAOWENEEDTOSELLMOREGAMES so his "sacrifice" wasn't really a sacrifice because the power of the Gods only goes away if he's wounded but not killed or something, idk.
>>740323119eh it has plenty to do with the ending of 3. Kratos got his revenge, but all it did was make everything worse for everyone else, empty and defeated he banishes himself from his home, and tries to come to terms with his own actions.
>>740315135Do anime games count?It used to be an incredible art form and now its just cumbrain slop for cellphone games
>>740323485Sometimes I forgot sonyfans actually exist. But I don't think it'd be uncommon for one of them to like God of War, like an xbox fangay likes Gears of War or Halo.That said, the best playstation series is Rachet and Clank by a mile.
>>740323631every industry has gone to complete shit, to the point where im certain there will never be anything good made ever again, actually good, not le silksong or fucking pragmata good, actual good games. anime stopped being good after the 90s so i doubt the games held up much longer after that
>>740323567naw my actual favorite was monster hunter. and trying to pretend you aren't doing exactly what I described after the new announcement is hilarious, but if you wanna larp about loving god of QTEs by all means, either way I get to point and laugh at you.
>>740315905Unironically because they're too kindhearted and merciful to their own detriment. It's a tragic tale but the "prize" of the ones who defeat them will be the world getting turned into a third world slum where a mulatto twerks on the ruins of civilization. And none of them will actually be happy. So in a way, their enemies will only defeat themselves.
>>740323751Ratchet was pretty good but I really do wish they'd just end it already, Insomniac clearly has lost all it's writing edge with shit like the spidermans and the newer Ratchet titles. all their games have the same sterile writing now, it's such a bummer coming off of how wry Spyro and Ratchet used to be.
>>740323804i was hating on nu-gow since 2018, youre a legit tourist if you think this is a reaction to the newest goyslop
>>740324028nu ratchet is, indeed, another tragedyinsomniac are beyond sanitized now, all the edge is gone
>>740321504old Kratos was a man because he stood for what he believed and forged a path forward, regardless of destiny or prophecy. nu faggot allowed himself to be used by faye and went along her pretty little plan despite 5+ games of him being abused by gods
>>740315135NuGoW really should have been a new franchise from the very beginning and should have never had anything to do with God of War.
>>740323581Fucking exactly. I hate fucking sequels these days. I didn't use to, they used to be meaningful additions to the story, but by the time you're hitting 4, 5, 6.... It's just a fucking shallow cash grab. It's disgusting, because the ideas are even sometimes GOOD and the final product is made WORSE by virtue of shitting up the original IP that it was forced to wrap around.>>740323616I disagree. It doesn't feel organic and Kratos should have stayed dead. Dad of War is an objectively better game by not being burdened with the bagge of a functionally unrelated source material
>>740324039uh huh I'm sure you and all the other 20 GoW threads on the catalog that have been up 24/7 since the new game's announcement are all totally natural yep yessir.
>>740324028>>740324120Rivet is awesome fap material. Didn't play the game: but I'm happy for the art.
>>740324427doesn't do anything for me but i'm happy you're getting something out of this shit
>>740324365nigger, you havent been here during the peak of kratoposting, you are legitimately clueless about /v/ and its relationship with nu-gow
>>740322769I don't hate new Kratos, I hate his game.
>>740324365just by searching GOOOOODS in the archive you'll see people shitting on this game even before it was released
>>740324329>I disagree. It doesn't feel organic and Kratos should have stayed deadI mean he never was dead though, it's one thing if GoW3 never left the door open for Kratos' return and the new games retconned it, but that is not the case. And the new games don't work at all without the context of Kratos trying to change, at least in 2018. The whole crux of the conflict between Kratos and his kid is Kratos refusing to open up to his kid about his past mistakes, instead trying to obfuscate and hide from them. It's a decent idea, though the execution narratively wasn't the best, especially in ragnarok. the gameplay is also much worse than the originals but that dead horse has been beat into dust at this point
Where did all of the bejitaposters go when we need them
>>740324626Fine maybe not "stayed dead", but simply "died". He should have died at the end of GoW 3 and that's that. His story is over. It's come full circle. We've seen the beginning, middle, and end of it. But instead they kept him alive in 2010 just so they can always go back to the well when they run out of ideas.GoW (2018) could have been an entirely new IP and still marketed as "from the devs behind GoW". It could have followed a new character against a new pantheon of Gods in a new land with new mechanics and new everything. But instead they slapped Kratsos in there because they were absolutely terrified at the idea of having to make a new protagonist.
>>740324514>>740324596>all of us collectively rehashing the same shitposts over and over again has nothing to do with the new game being announcedyou are not fooling me, if anything all you've done is prove to me that the bandwagon exists and that you're both on it.
>>740322769The devs had an interesting idea in bringing out the side of kratos that cared (and was always around) but they got high on their own farts.They and everyone around them acted like Kratos had NEW DEPTHS that he never had before (which is complete bullshit)They made it retarded and fucked up the details, moreso in the second game.Which is a shame because they certainly had the ability to pull off SOME good writing.That one dwarf going apeshit in the second nu-game and becoming broken and unreasonable over his brother's death was really well done.But they tried to do something similar with Kratos and that basically ruined his character.That fucking onions speech towards his old self was horrendously written.The idea was great, but executed so goddamn shittily.Old God of War made it clear that Kratos had emotional depth.Being forced to kill Orkos.Forced to shove away his daughter.Trying to kill himself in the original and the third.They HAD the right balance in the first Nu-Game. They found a way to open him up a bit without trashing his character completely.And then they decided that when he would get too emotional from now on he had to be a completely different person.disgusting.
>>740324903ok, don't search the catalog then and believe your own headcanon
>>740315973kek
>>740315135In video games, yeah. In comics we have Spiderman (now being cucked constantly)In movies we have Star Wars (the third biggest IP in human history) run into the ground so bad it's getting felted by a 1 million dollar budget horror movie made by a 20 year old YTer.
>>740315379Some people also like scat play.
>>740324626I'm not saying they made ZERO effort to connect the new series with the old one, I'm saying it's a better story if you simply construct the player character to have all the elements of Kratos that actually matter to this new story without being burdened with all the content that doesn't fit and have to justify it away. It muddies the story, impacts the themes of the original work (that was never intended to have this sort of character shift). If you look at GoW 1-3 Kratos, and Dad of War Kratos and find you feel they are two different people (which any sensible person does) then you can interpret that as "this should have been a new property". New Stories Are Good.
>>7403231262018, to be fair to it, starts with the same kratos... he is quieter about it and keeps it under wraps, but it felt like it was still HIM.just quiter, older and more bitter.like they took where he was at by the end of 3 and worked off of that.he had no more enemies, no more friends, no more followers, no country and certainly no gods.He had the quiet bitterness of an angry man that has nothing left but ashes after burning everything else down.
The new game will still sell well:>people still defend 2018 including the chuds and anti woke >younger gamers have never played the original >younger gamers only know the garbage modern era >gamers care more about the franchise or studio over gameplay>PS5 owners have nothing to play Just abandon AAA shit it is evident now that studios and shareholders do not care about money they will always push the message. There is no going back because the people in charge aren't dumb or being misled they hate you
>>740325382the goys will continue to eat it up anon capcom doesnt hate us though
>>740325382>The new game will still sell well:it really won't
>>740325382>shareholders do not care about moneylol they did chuddie, you even say it in your own post then contradict yourself
>>740322769Forgiveness implies he did something wrong, which isn't the case
>>740325483capcom hires literal trannies and has corporate dei quotas, youre fucked in the head if you think theyre your friends
>>740315135You deserve it, you deserve your "games" being humiliation rituals.
None, but honestly /v/, we have to admit that we kind of like this. Every time a good game comes up nobody cares about it but people love the drama (which is understandable) when it comes to a game failng
>>740325639Now delete your steam account cause theyre woke, they arent friends
>>740325078this image makes me sad, we had kratos right there and we got stuck with the mid life crisis numale with the correct opinions
>>740325682i have never spent money on a bad game, therefore i dont deserve it, other gamers do
>>740325854this is the first (and hopefully last) time i agree with a retarded frogposter niggerfaggot
>>740315135Dragon Age: Veilguard takes the shit crown by a fucking league.
>>740325854How many consoles after the PS2 have you owned? Confess faggot.
>>740325639They are like Steam where they will still sell you a product you want. They can however get fucked because they ruined Monster Hunter
>>740325954Dragon Age was shit by the time 2's demo was released
>>740325495Even though it's just Forspoken 2 with "God of War" slapped on the front I think it will sell well.Ghosts of Yotei really surprised me in that sonybros lapped that shit up. It made good money.
>>740326059DA2 was still a reasonable game. Rushed, yes. A little button mashy, yes. But people drastically overhate on some reused assets when it still has strong characters and writing.Inquisition decayed hard and Veilguard is a genuine 1/10. It has been a violently downward slope.
>>740326167People are defending the cube and dialogue already. Even if Kratos with the MC it would still look retarded and not fit with the series.People need to accept gamers are as retarded as Apple fans and that the younger generation only know garbage
>>740326269DA2 only good part story wise was the idea of rising from the garbage to the top and the Arishok. The Mage/Templar shit was garbage because nothing you did mattered
>>740326578It was fine. You at least got to kill Anders. Just because Meredith went crazy in either route doesn't do nearly as much damage as you might have pretended 15 years ago.
>>740326167>Ghosts of Yotei really surprised me in that sonybros lapped that shit up. It made good money.the multiplayer was canceled 2 months in and there is no DLC planned
>>740327458It was never meant to be a live service dumbass, they did the same with the first game. Jesus youre a retard
>>740328026>2 months after launchAre you this delusional?
>>740325078The fact that this didn't end with a nostalgiabait fight against original Kratos where he uses the whole moveset from the PS2 games was criminal.
>>740328294Are you retarded or pretending
>>740328026>they did the same with the first gametsushima got an expansion DLC and the multiplayer is still going to this day
>>7403153792018 was alright, but paled in comparison to the real games. Ragnarok is abysmal.
>>740329576got multiplayer is still going 6 years later retardbro
>>740321910Nothing funnier than all 3 of them being tall and him being a manlet and framelet
>>740329779>>740330350You got poor reading comprehension cause they aren't closing the servers you twats
>>740324515such ugly, retarded UI... almost looks like one of those AI generated pics.
>>740326398>People need to accept gamers are as retarded as Apple fans and that the younger generation only know garbageYup. A lot of the support we are seeing now though is just culture war soldiers that will never buy it. The real sin is the utter lack of gameplay, not how ugly they made Karen Page.Also I can't believe son ggers is still censored ten years later.
you weebs just want everything to be anime. No appreciation for american hyper realism style
>>740316629Indians must be the master race because they outnumber all the others.
>>740342694Funny you bring up Indians when they're the ones that worship Nu Kratos the hardest
>>740327458>Every game needs infinity updatesIt's still going to be playable, it's just Finished
