Are ya'll excited for FF7 part 3?
>>740351521Is it me or do the games look worse with each installment
hell yeah bro more blender porn
Yes
>>740351521No.Rebirth was already painful to go through.
>>740351521no
>>7403515212030 at the earliest
where is Aerith?
So each game is a disc?
>job system that changes yours movesetActually fucking cool for part 3 in a combat system that could've gotten a bit stale
No but hopefully now that this shitfest is over they can start working on an actual remake
>>740351521They're going to completely butcher the atmosphere, aren't theyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGd0eppLCPU
>>740351521yes, apart from the cringe inducing japanglish it looks very good
>>740351521Yes extremely
>>740351521I just hope they have more dating mechanics
>sapphire weapon dodges junon rayI've dreamed of this for fucking 30 years, a sapphire weapon fight
>They added a job system Based!
>>740351521I'll play it when they sell all 3 parts together for 50 or less.
>no Aeris tulpa>no Kyrie squadmate>no Cissnei squadmate>no Scarlet>sausagefest>Cloud gone>solo Yuffie Wutai mission>just Tifa in chargeKWAB
Game looks like shit.OG VII still superior.
Yes but you can see the limitations of having to make sure it runs on switch 2, especially in the weapon fights
Why is Cid a magical spearman...wtf are they doing.
>>740351521>still 3 party members in battle>forced to bench more than half of the party without the choice of swapping mid battle like in Tales games
>biggest gaming reveal of the decade>this is the only threadWas the hack really that bad?
>>740352685No the first 2 only covered disc 1. Disc 3 is pretty much just the final dungeon though
>added jobsThey literally made FF7 better
>>740353185You don't know if there is a swap, its one of the things people wanted the most. 1 or 2 ATB to swap that is all.
Fuck no. You'd genuinely have to be low IQ to give a shit still.
So simultaneous release means every platform gets their exclusive magic card? devilish plan, seymour
Where was Aerith? I thought she lived this time?
>>740351521Should be enough time to finish off my hard mode run of rebirth. Just did Dyne today:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chlgN4vWgPM
>>740353160I just see it being the limitation of getting the game out in 3 years
>>740353364That's what i wanted in Rebirth since it makes sense the most to put the system in there
They should remake FF8 and FF9, but leave out the story. At this point they just want to make a big open world game set in these worlds. And that's perfectly OK with me.
did sapphire dodge the ray because the weapons know the timeline?
>>740353494she's definitely dead
Everything they showed seemed to be parts from the original, so I still have a positive outlook. Once the ghosts start showing up for whatever reason it will probably turn to shit.
No, i hate the lightingff7 remake had perfect baked lighting this is more rebirth dogshit
>>740351962I swore off Square enix after how much filler was in part 1. This reveal actually looked kinda good but I'm not falling for this shit again.
>>740353370This. We ALL hate demake and debirth. Meanwhile, we ALL want the endless crapcom remakes instead.
>>740352685the ps1 discs were just divided by FMVsRemake goes to the end of Midgar, and Rebirth goes to the end of Temple of the Ancients
>>740353168>Why is Cid a magical spearman...wtf are they doing.Being true to the original? https://youtu.be/7EjSCnX-lhk?t=36
>>740352786this tbqhwyf
>>740353684They said Wutai was in the new one. Was Wutai not in Rebirth?
>>740351521What race is this?
>>740351752The doom and gloom of the original game is gone.
Let me know if they add the job system to Remake in 10 years. Not playing through 2 piece of shit games just for that.
>>740352685>So each game is a disc?Pretty sure part 1 and 2 are literally disc 1 of the original game. It was almost entirely filler.
>>740351521I'm excited for it be over so SE can finally move on. I hope they take the combat from 7R and use for a new game though
>>740351521I'm excited to hear all the contrarian excuses this time around
>>740351521Nah, I'll wait until they combine all the parts into 1 game.
>>740353656The moment i saw the open world lighting i instantly knew this was a simultaneous S2 release.
>>740353620Given how the WEAPONs are tied to the Planet and that Aerith had future knowledge before the change bad ghosts took it? Yes.
>>740351521I'm more excited for Yuffie's upcoming kino
I'm looking forward to it, but it's like a year away
>>740353625But she was alive at the end?
>>740353075I couldnt imagine playing all 3 games back to back, I would get so burnt out. Rebirth alone turned into a drag pretty quickly.
>>740353994You'll get the trilogy in 9 parts instead when they release Remake-Remake in 30 years
>>740354298I can't understand how anybody even wanted to play rebirth after the filler that was part 1.
So, if this one actually does good in terms of sales, do you think it will be the final nail in the coffin for SE and Sony's 'friendship'?
>>740353676You are wasting your time with your retarded shitposting. All remakes are worthless.
yesbut let me know when I can get remake + rebirth on pc for less than 40 dollars closer to part 3's release. Still need to finish remake and start rebirth
>>740354448Remake was the Ground Zeroes of the trilogy. Literally a beta test with story shit
>>740354448The gameplay was at least fresh at the time which kept me interested to the end. Rebirth didn't have that excuse and had about 80 different systems they shouldve just pushed to post-game for the people who want it.
>>740353738Very true yeah, call me when he gets the old dynamite attack.
>>740353830 Nope
>>740351521>part 3Why are they releasing games by chapters and why dou you guys accept it?
>>740354647>>740354710It was like 5 hours of story dragged out into 40 hours of awful filler. Any other opinion is cope.
>>740354647It would've been better if it was as long as Ground Zeroes
>>740354930Like I said. The Ground Zeroes of the trilogy.
>>740351521i'm excited for the game to come out so it's completely buried and forgotten by the following year and we can keep discussing the original game in peace
>>740354930Eh. Unless you're mashing skip and sprinting through the game midgar is like 20 hours in the OG
PLEASE USE THE COMBAT JOB SYSTEM IN FF17 PLEASE
CAN I PLEASE FUCKING CHOOSE WHICH PARTY MEMBERS I WANT WITHOUT HAVING ANY FORCED ON ME THIS TIMEThat was super irritating in both Remake and Rebirth. You couldnt even choose your party members for the final battle in either game.
>>740355210They already had a chance to use FF7R's combat system in 16, Square is just fucking retarded and allergic to good decisions.
>>740355375No he means that new job system they showed off
>>740355329why would you? its a team story
>>740354876because a single chapter is 200 hours long
>>740353684Fucking hell look at all those benched members we won't get to play for most of the game
>>740353923>Let me know if they add the job system to Remake in 10 years. Not playing through 2 piece of shit games just for that.Believe in the "there will be a supergame later that combines all 3 games into a single game with rebalanced battle system" plan! Which will be sold separately, obviously, along with the "actual OG FFVII Remake" DLC sold at full price as well.
>>740355506Because I dont like all the characters equally, or using them equally.
why would you add a job system to a game that didn't have one in the first place? also the implementation looks kinda halfassed
>>740355815then why even play the game
>>740352786remake of 8 of course, the best one
>>740355959For the characters that I do like.
>>740352820they already fucked up many moments in rebirth so yeah I expect that
I want Vincent's game!
>>740355910it's very funny because materia basically was the job system, you had nearly full control over how a character would play via materia so you could mix and match without constraining yourself to specific archetypes. but now FF7R3 has both lmao
>>740355910The first two did somewhat have an issue where all characters were self-sufficient generalists.
>>740355910My guess is they are testing to see how this new job system works because 17 will have it
>>740352820If https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwGU_XZizbQ isn't in the game Im gonna be upset.
tifabros... did we win bigly?
I can't be the only one who thought that 90% of materia in Remake was useless
>>740351521Yes
>>740356550There are a lot of retards on this planet so you can't be the only one.
>>740356472I feel bad seeing Tifa shown off like some kind of brawler. She has such a big heart, she's the girly girl - Aerith is the rough tomboy.
>>740355205You have never played the original bud
>>740355910I imagine it's functionally just a new form of the skill point trees, moved from the weapons/portfolios, and giving an excuse to make different costumes
>>740356550magic is really good for building stagger.
Have you Noticed how Hamaguchi pronounced the title? It sounds like he is pulling a "One Piece" and that REVELATION = LIBERATION
Thank fuck I don't have to wait for the Playstation>Ebin>Steam dance again
>>740357402Oda wouldn't do such a hack thing and leave us disappointed after all this time, but I wouldn't put it beyond Hamaguchi.
>>740356734Anon, using elemental Materia felt flaccid in Remake.>Oh hey, this guy is weak to Fire>I'll use tha- aaaand it's already dead>Oh hey, this boss is weak to electric >I'll use that and... Wow that did fuck all and barely made the stagger bar go up>Ok let's use it while the boss is staggered >Ok. Yep. Still trash.>Oh hey a magnify materia>Why the fuck would I link it with an elemental Materia over a healing one
>>740351521More so excited for this rugpull "fuck you" hateletter to just finally be over and done with.
>>740356809Tifa's the timid follower, Aerith is the confident leader, that's the contrast to their appearance. Aerith is obviously the more girly of the two.
>>740357402That's just how the Japanese phonetics work.
>>740357257In some fights, sure. But I was throwing magic at that fucking house in the arena and it did jack shit. And yes, I was using the elements it was weak to every swap
>>740357402when he was introducing matt marcer i legit thought he was having a stroke or something
>job costumes for tifa and yuffieI’m getting a boner thinking about it
>>740357672Did you play on pussy bitch difficulty? Even if you didn't, given the number of generic stat up materia I struggle to see how you can think they're 90% useless. Boring maybe. Useless absolutely not
>>740357402>>740357812Fun fact: In the original FF7 Bizarro Sephiroth was originally supposed to be Rebirth Sephiroth, but the translator misread Rebirth as Reverse, and so turned Reverse into Bizarro.
>>740358031It felt useless on both normal and hard to such a point that I straight up stopped using them half the time in my hard playthrough.
>>740357939Welcome on stage, da boys of vincent
>multiple costume per characters due to jobsHmm might as well do that than throwing random outfit i guess
Oh boy, I can't wait for the climactic battle against Sephiroth.Again.For the third time.
I dont like how they made the weapons look monotone.
>>740357804Aerith is a hard slum girl, Tifa's the one playing the piano and shit.
>>740354298I had to force myself to finish Rebirth. And I didn't finish it, I lost to Sephiroth and didn't want to do that stupid 45 minute bossfight again. Maybe it'd be different if I was kid in 1997 and it was the only video game I could afford all summer.
>mousing over the new job doesn't preview any sort of change whatsoeverThats kind of sloppy UI but ok
>>740358626Aerith is a dress wearing gardener, and a healer. You don't get more girly than that.
>>740358413>yfw the final boss is actually a fully restored JENOVA and Sephiroth is helping Cloud fight her because it gets revealed he was being puppeted by her since Nibleheim and that now that he's filled his part she's discarded him
Not particularly, but I’ll play it anyways.
>FF7 remake and FF16 both completely mogged at being ARPGs by Jack's game.In 15 years people will realise this truth but until then you will remain cattle with your noses in the dirt.
>>740358860That'd be neat to fight real Jenova. Sephiroth's ambitions seem way more nuts in this version.
>>740358859That's just her job. It's what she does for a living, not who she is. Only the original FF7 and the remake seems to remember this however.
>>740359256All the JENOVA fights have been clear highlights so far. I can't wait to fight the Birth of a God JENOVA.
>>740358858>no shoulderpadsi will never use this outfit he looks like a fucking twink
>>740355329>he's found a party he likes with mechanics he likes?>lock the party selection>introduce a box throwing mechanic
>>740359270No? She's been in the church taking care of the flowers way before selling them. Do you even know the lore?
>>740359717Job = Class = Role. Get with it, you stupid faggot.
Did Emerald weapon ever go to the surface?
>>740355329You will play 500 minigames and you will use the party Square chooses.
>>740359717Is gardener a class in ff?
>>740361043Why yes of course I fucking love the minigames. I fucking love Queens Blood and I do hope that theres more matches, if they could add an online match with rankings i would fucking play it all day
I cant wait a whole year bros...
>>740352453spring 2027 dumb nigger
>Switch 2 version is going to hold the game back againSigh.
>>740355329>>740359664if they didn't force you to use other party members everyone would run cloud/barret/tifa or cloud/yuffie/tifa because they're simply that much better and easier to use than the dog and cat shit
>>740361869Fuck you I used the dog and cat shit.
Keeping Aerith out of the trailers so people can actually get surprised while playing that she's somehow alive was smart.
>>740362087I kneel furrychad
>>740351962Loved every minute of it, nigger. Yuffie in every scene since she joined.
>>740353572Also openly stating they're basically just making a Rebirth expansion pack.
The Reunion...
>>740359664>>introduce a box throwing mechanicNo...
>>740355735I know people are joking, but there's no reason to believe this will be the only FFVII Remake. With the assets done, they could remake it how many times they want.
>>740360503That is Sapphire, who gets blasted by Junon instantly in the OG
>>740362587I like you. Like...as more than a friend.
>>740351521No, dropped rebirth in costa del sol and i don't care more, thanks Square Enix.
>>740362392Not really. Just from the peaks none of the map is the same as Rebirth, all the areas entirely redone which is kinda insane if its also bigger and requires you to seamlessly drop from the sky
>>740362924Why on Earth would they do that
>>740362835>dropped right before getting Yuffie
>>740351752It's even worse cause now they have to cater to Switch 2
>>740354647cant wait the plot twist cloud was the custom fortnite character grunt of nibelheim
>>740361869Yuffie's mechanics rule.
>the trailer is a bait and switch and the real version is going to be with Aerith in all those scenesI am so sick of this dumb ass trope Its 100% going to happen
>>740359656>looks like
>>740356550more or less same as og
>>740363359>does he know
>>740363120because they wanted you to be able to fly the Highwind, and the old game wasn't designed around it. Not only that, but it also makes the world feel fresh and worth exploring again when its redone level design.It is weird though, your shot has Gongaga, Cosmo Canyon, Nibelheim and the Gold Saucer in that one shot. Kinda fucks up the scale of the world.
The WEAPONS look lame as fuck. Vincent and Cid's attacks look right out of FFXIV too lmao.I'm genuinely more excited for Evercold now that I think about it.https://youtu.be/dc79dfqb44s?si=IpeMqS89YA19XTmD
>>740363782Hey I saw this post in the other thread
>>740358413and its again a dogshit boss rush like rebirth
>>740358578ultima looks like another version of bahamut top wise
>>740358858thats the most retarded armor for warrior covering legs only
>>740363912god that design is so shit compared to the original canon sucker
>>740362851fuuuuark
>>740358858Is someone carrying a piano in their backpack?
>>740364193I'm split on it, I think the original is better but it does also look sick Still just a giant jobber fish at the end of the day
>>740358413>inb4 minerva is the final boss and you play as Cloud Zack and Sephiroth
Aerithtroons, your containment thread is here>>740323747Pay attention, mkay?
Was Rebirth good? Remake was fun but a bit padded.
the revaluation is people wasted their money on this garbage for over a decade
>>740364295i will admit it looked cool when it's mouth opened thoalso we haven't seen underwater gameplay so i'm worried that is cut
>>740362462looks like a gay frame of sephiroth holding his gf, for so much obsessed to ruin cloud is he always look homo
>>740364390Best battle system to grace the JRPG genre 2bh
>>740364390rebirth is open-world so not as linear but it's padded with ubisoft chores
fuck you guys, I like forced character pairings. It was like the only good thing about 13. I'm sure Revelation is going to have like 40 hours of odd combo duos.If you want to spend an entire game playing one way over and over and over again, play FF16.
>>740364390felt more like a game than remake since you get to go to more places
>>740354493Almost all remakes are better than the original game
>>740364390rebirth double the padding
>>740364390Rebirth is great EXCEPT for the open world padding activities
>>740364857Can you skip that stuff, and would you recommend it? It being so close to the third game I would probably want to get through Rebirth rather quickly
>they'll HAVE to fully delve into Dirge of Cerberus bullshit in order to close the lid on the FF7 sagaLucky mode: it's only Genesis and NeroNightmare mode: the whole DoG crew appears
>>740363746>It is weird though, your shot has Gongaga, Cosmo Canyon, Nibelheim and the Gold Saucer in that one shot. Kinda fucks up the scale of the world.Thats because they shrunk the world map to fit in a room. You didnt think they would actually make it so you could fly around a big world filled with things, did you?
I'm saving Aerith in part 3
>>740364397>revaluation
>>740364986They recently patched an headstart option that gives instant high level gear and stats so you can unga bunga everything without engaging with the side content at all.
>>740364986>Can you skip that stuffIt's not mandatory unless you want to fight Gilgamesh. I'd stick to the main quest and the green companion quests and skip the world exploration shit entirely.
>>740364986Yeah, you can skip literally all of the side content. Once you do that the pace is actually similar to the original game.
>>740351521I am genuinely looking forward to it. I knew they were going to do some crazy Evangelion/Shin Godzilla/Minus One stuff with the Weapons, and I was not disappointed. I still think that Knights of the Round is actually going to play into the plot this time around, like they're the Cetra warriors who sealed away Jenova originally (like an old time Final Fantasy party), and they turned themselves into summons should Jenova ever be released, and the plot will involve gathering their summoning materia like dragon balls or something.
>>740361869Maybe they could make the bad characters better then?
>>740365135We know Zack
>>740365404Sorry bud
>>740365141fuck off gramps im drunk
>UE4 in 2027>WEAPONS look shiti just wanna slap Scarlet's titties as Tifa
>>740364390Remake felt like a proof of concept in comparison.
The problem with the remake series is that it's neither fish nor fowl. Either remake something faithfully or drive it completely off the road and into a chasm like Anno did with the Rebuilds. But don't half-ass it thinking that you'll be able to sit on two chairs with only one butt.
>>740364390it has great environments but way too much ubisoft padding - but i will say queen's blood card game is very addictive and took me back to ff8 lmaofuck the story to death but luckily you can ignore it as the original still exists
>>740366098not engine issue shit design unless you wanna a glaring rtx shit eating your frames
>>740365395cat shit its kinda better but some of his skills sucks like the one to build up stagger compared to other party members
>>740366738whatever helps you fucking cope
>>740366519The story was fine, it's the new time janny and multiverse shit that's really bringing everything down. What exactly was wrong with a 1:1 retelling of the original with the new combat, graphics, voices, music and minigames?
They adding new weapons (bosses)Some of these I never seen before
>>740367023when you have a ramen engine 2013 mmo having better looking weapons its totally design
>>740367137artistic choice some artist deserve to be whiped like niggers and retard stroken
>>740367205and they suck and confuse with the already stablished weapons from og
>>740367137there's like 2 minute reveal of a multiverse. everyone hates the ending because they realised that cloud likes aerith a bit too much
I hope Zack is playable for REAL this time
>>740363282It's PS5 holding it back, it's old as shit now
>>740367137>The story was fine
>ruins the death scene>story was fine guys lol
So if Aerith was alive whats the point of FF7 anymore lol
Day 1
>>740351521I'll get it for the combat. I'll ignore the shit story.
>>740351521yes I am
i just wanted to play as the summon mid fight why couldnt i get this you motherfuckers
So how's the job system gonna work if you can already change everyone's setup with materia? Just buffing specific stats?
>>740363282This.
>>740361869I literally never use Tifa in those games at all unless forced.
>>740352685Disc 1 is like 60% of the game. Disc 3 is only the final dungeon and a couple superbosses
>>740362826Anon that's a 40 year old handsome Shinra executive man.
>>740369690>third game will have advent children
>>740369671tifa destroys shit with like 2 buttons unless you're one of those spergs that needs to be pressing a million things per second otherwise you get "bored"
>>740368671PS5 is still stronger than the Switch 2 and handheld PCs and the Xbox Series S which devs have to optimize for
>>740370123Button mash character
>>740369930Wrong, hes my wife.
I'm legitimately disappointing by how bad the Weapons look..
>>740370974I thought they’d look like the weapon from kingsglaive those were massive
>>740364298>Fi al boss is a JENOVA corrupted Minerva>The trio is about to get wiped>AND HERE COMES GENESIS WITH THE STEEL CHAIR!!
>people are more hyped for Stellar Blade than FF7lol...
>>740371191brother even final fantasy 14 made them betterhttps://youtu.be/dc79dfqb44s?si=ZgDmI22yj1MvZAO0
Weird how Rebirth's marketing focused heavily on Zack, yet he's nowhere to be seen in part 3
>>740364390if you like padding you'll love Rebirth lmao
>>740364390for me Remake is a 6/10 and Rebirth is a 9>>740371380i'm beyond fucking hype for both desu. about time one of these shows satisfies me like this
>>740370974Honestly, I kinda get the redesign. The WEAPONS are supposed to be bio-organic entities that awaken to defend the Planet. So them not looking like robots actually fits the initial description of them
>>740371631thanks marketer they still look shitjust to link to FFX
>>740371784>just to link to FFXOk desu it would be sick as hell if it turned out The Planet is actually Spira at some point in the far future.
>>740371865no it wouldn'tkill yourself
>>740371513Yeah that’s how I wanted it to look. I think it’s probably gonna transform it looked way too small imo
>>740351521FF8 clears this trash.
>>740371913Look it's either that or the 'canon' explanation that people from Spiral fled their world and wound up on The Planet.
>>740371865That's not now the link works. Shinra from FFX built a rocket and traveled from Spira to FF7.
>>740371939yeah it looks so fucked in the trailer as well lolhow anyone is hype for this trash is beyond me
>>740372049>look, it's either what actually happened, or this dumb bullshit I made up
>>740372049knife your throatyou are why everything sucks now
>>740372303So you think space travel then them forgetting they are from another planet is better? What next, JENOVA being an insane Yuna that turned herself into a new SIN and chased them across the stars is good?
>>740369536Probably like the weapon skills and things, where they're equipping a bonus to casting certain types of spells, or their special action gains an additional effect
>>740372451>watch in amazement as I make up even more dumb bullshit!
>>740358858>One job after 52 hourswtf
tranny game
>>740372114I was hyped for rebirth when they first showed it but I can’t help but feel they’re hiding something. This reveal felt so anticlimactic. The trailer was weird. It legit feels like a part of a game rather than its own game. I hope they’re hiding something man lol
>>740358858>52 hours>WarriorDragon Quest 7 has nothing on this slop
>>740372695wow it's as if they're rushing it out the door to meet a deadline or something
>>740372451You shit-talking the dragonriders of Pern now?
>>740372621NTA, but the Yuna-JENOVA thing could actually work. Depending on how X-3 goes. -will- already set up how the Farplane is essentially hemorrhaging into Spira and how Yuna has reverted to being a naive Yevonite
>>7403552107Rs combat blows i just want the systems in other games
this genuinely looks like rushed shittoo much shit from FFX and X2weapons look like SIN job glamsfuck this garbage
>>740372382>>740371913>>740371784>>740372891clam down
>The Leapin' Lancer! The Dashing Dragoon!cid's great
barry fears this
I'm just here to balance out all the overly positive takes I've been seeing. This whole remake was flawed from the get go making it into a trilogy, and no amount of enjoyment I get from these games can ever take away from that. Imagine being shackled on something like that for almost a decade when you could be telling a truly new story.
>>740373441"unironically the best course of action anyone could have taken in FFX is nuking the al bhed from orbit to prevent shinra from getting off-planet and fucking up FF7's planet" is an incredible stance for the remake games to take, even ignoring that FFX and FF7's metaphysics are different (spheres are not materia even if they're formed similarly, fuck off kitase)
>>740373256Where's the cursing?
>>740373667everywhere that's not the trailer i'd guess since cloud yells "shit..." half the time in the previous two games
Couldn't be less excitedI can't wait for what the cope will be when there's every opportunity to do well, but it will still fall short because the direction of "remake" pissed off more people than it pleasedAnd because square is incapable of admitting fault, reflection, learning, or utilizing what made them a rpg juggernaut in the first place, they will keep breaking even at best
Am I seeing things or did they increase the size of Tifa's tifas?
>>740373441i fucking hate thisnojima lost his mindi blame kingdrom farts
>>740374091>it won't do well because FF7 purists are madyeah fucking right lmao
>>740374096I wish
my nigg wife likes ithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUM_4zJCIro
>>740358413>Again.>>For the third time.which sephiroth? that was jenova
>Capcom gave her bigger tits than SE
>>740372695>I can’t help but feel they’re hiding somethingThis whole thing has been "subverted expectations: THE GAME"they're absolutely hiding more zany retardation
>>740362803Oh shit yeah, I totally forgot about that.
>Characters only get 4 jobs assigned to them
>>740374561sounds good, it is related to the archetypes they can get which makes the characters different
>>740374647get paid much?
>>740374751not at all, i can see the vision since im not retarded like you
>Debirth flopped so fucking hard the director had to go to Max's house
>>740374814>i can see the visionok homoguchi
>>740374561Who told you that?
>>740374845getting angsty over flopsona getting mogged during xflopx livestream?
SE finally admitted job systems is the best mechanic of their games
>>740374983nobody mentioned personayour insecurity is showing
Switch 2 targeted, I imagine, which means this'll run amazingly on higher power systems and PC
>>740354273>But she was alive at the end?I refuse to believe that people saying this played the game at all. Usually, I roll my eyes when people suggest that critics don't like a game because they haven't played it but Rebirth is a unique case where it's obvious.There are people making video essays about the game who I think haven't even played it, they've just watched other video essays as sourcing and you're left with chinese whispers. Consumers over this constant hatespam has now led to genuine confusion to the Revelation trailers with people having completely made up headcanon.
>>740372875>Yuna has reverted to being a naive YevoniteThat's not at all what she did in X-Will-. X-2.5 makes that very clear.
>>740354273The point we are saving her in the third game.
>>740351521I'm planning on giving OG, Crisis Core, Remake, and Rebirth another go in the couple of months leading up to it coming out.
>>740376446people theorycrafted attack on titan then 139 came out shitting on everythingff7r will do the same but give you the same ending
>>740376446What is the point of this, according to you?
>>740375007>Chrono trigger synergies>Job system>Materia>Limit breaks>action combat that is actually good with tactical mode>summons>probably sphere grid againthey are just doing everything. It really does seem like the ultimate culmination of the franchise.I hope and predict that there will be an ingame tribue to turn based combat. I think there will be a long classic turn-based minigame where you are essentially playing a DLC of the OG FF7. Though, this might piss off the critics even more that wanted a 1:1
>>740375007It is, but two things about it don't sit right with me. Job System has always been justified in-universe in the mainline games and I don't feel it's here. Second is that I feel it should've been in a new mainline game built around it instead of in a second sequel of three games very connected by gameplay, ongoing story and design.
max just confirmed Travis Willingham is the new voice of seph
>>740374978It was revealed to me in a Maximilian Dood stream.
>>740377936>Job System has always been justified in-universe in the mainline games and I don't feel it's hereThe jobs being granted by the FITS device is probably either some advanced modified materia shit Chadley makes, and/or Scarlet will wear one to be a match for Tifa in their slapfight and the party steals it afterward.
Material is already a Job System what a pointless addition.
>Be me>Just started playing Rebirth today>See that party members only auto attack once again >Get up to part where Chadley gets reintroduced >Look at materia I can make>tfw party members using spells or their special ability is locked behind fucking materia and isn't a base thingJust...why?
>>740381842where is the Fucking materia? i never got that one
>>740382501Talk to Chadley
>>740353684>space for a 9th character underneath Cait SithI don't like this
>>740351521>Are ya'll excited for FF7 part 3?not in the slightest. i only wanna so how badly they fuck the story from the looking glass.
>>740382693Zack or Aerith. Maybe Rufus
>>740382693>sequence where Cloud is full schizoing and if you open the party menu Aerith is there, but active party selection is locked so you can't actually put her into battle
>>740382776>from the looking glasscuck pointing at the bull, "ha, sucks for that guy"
>>740383307you need help
>>740368194who wouldn't fall in love with the nice church girl after you fall down from sector 5 and have to protect her from the turksshe also happens to flirt with you all the time
>>740382776well it sounds like youre at least slightly excited for it, then
>>740384042indeed. i love laughing at retards who eat this slop up and pretend it sold well.
>>740353673>original with awful 90s puzzle game filler>remake with bad mmo fillerIt's literally the same but slightly less bad. FFVII nostalgia is so detached from reality it still blows my mind.
>>740381612I'm interested in it, it seems like it's mostly an addition to play into each party member's existing strengths even harder while also serving as a way of giving them alt costumes and as a way of reimagining traditional jobs in FF7's artstyle. More specifically reimagining some traditional jobs as FF7 characters would wear them, like, "this is what Cloud would look like as a Warrior, it's sort of similar to his normal wear because he's already a Warrior, but that's what he'd look like." Or putting Barret in a suit of magitek armor for what I assume is Knight or Paladin, and then Cait Sith gets the most straightforwardly traditional outfit with Summoner because it's already a stuffed animal.
>>740351521>Final Chadley 7 part 3, with even more ChadleyDunno. Lost my interest after part 2 launching as timed exclusive and seeing how much filler there was.
The original FF7 is loaded with minigames and bloat too and that's great. I like both and if they stick the landing with Revelation, I may end up liking the Remake series as a whole even more than OG.
>>740384786>The original FF7 is loaded with minigames and bloat too and that's great.Funny how nobody mentions this when bitching about the exact same shit in Rebirth.
>>740384685
Playing through remake now and the drop in quality from main quest to required filler content is staggering. I don't think I'll finish if this keeps up.
>>740385203remake is %75 paddingit's fucking insufferable
>changing gameplay mechanics in the 3rd part of a game
>>740364390I was enjoying it until the ending. Ending was garbage.
>>740384786How does the original have bloat/filler when it's the ORIGINAL VERSION? Its a foundational work, adapted from nothing. What are they even padding, when it's a finished product from release? People criticize because the new games add truckloads of boring, poorly written, garbage busywork that drags everything down in comparison to the original. The amount of cope remake fags inhale is gerenational.
>>740378089what happened to the old one
>Weapons were made to combat Meteor>we still kill them anyway
>>740353684>Rebirth goes to the end of Temple of the Ancientsand rushes the absolute fuck out of it while ruining Aerith's death
>>740385794>How does the original have bloat/filler when it's the ORIGINAL VERSION? Its a foundational work, adapted from nothing. What are they even padding, when it's a finished product from release?This just in. Anon thinks bloat and padding don't exist in non-remakes.
>>740385965The WEAPONS can't tell the difference between JENOVA and humans so they are trying to kill everything to stop Meteor.
>inb4 Sephiroth gets turned into Homelander in front of Minerva
>>740386094well that's retarded what awful writing
>>740385794Well, if you're attributing only story progression of the original game's narrative, then Remake certainly was a lot more bloated than Rebirth but that isn't reflected in the games' reviews.Remake stretches the Midgar segment way beyond what it was, not really to great benefit but it was a smaller playtime. People call Rebirth bloated because there is too much optional content to do, which is hilarious given the current market where AAA games are giving less and less to players. Charging full price for horrorslop where you walk through a hallway for 3 hours.OG FF7 was bloated in the same way Rebirth was in that there was a lot to do and a wide variety of optional minigames and side content. FF7 is the most densely packed title with minigames in the main series
>>740376934That's Cloud's motivation to fight Sephiroth's control not the actual plot. Sephiroth has no interest in killing her...probably at all. Definitely not on the altar where she has the full attention of the dead space Jew club. He knows that was tantamount to apotheosizing her the first time.
>>740386153>what awful writinghow so? Is it bad writing because it confuses you?
>>740386221it's an awful mcguffinnothing to be confused aboutit's just really lazy writing lost odyssey fixed ti though
>>740362851>White Mage TifaWonder what jobs each of the cahracters will get. It's hard to imagine what you give to Barret.
>>740386325>mcguffinyou don't even understand the usage of the term macguffin and you can't give any explanation of your criticism so I'm going to guess you're just getting filtered by your own lack of intelligence.
>>740386474and you have nothing but ad hominemwe're done here fanboy
>that complete lack of applause holy fuck no wonder they went multiplat off the bat
>>740386647where is the ad hom
>>740386647That's not an ad-hominem retard.
>>740386789ask you're mom
>>740386789>>740386803pathetic phone samefagat least try using lowercase on your reply
>>740386843okyou are mom?
>Zack: Please fuck my girlfriend, Cloud! My sword gets rusty? I don't care what you do with it. My honor and dreams? Fuck that! Just steal my identity bro! I love when Marlene tells me how much of cuck I am! YABBA DABBA DOO! The highlight of my life was changing your pants when you were in a coma!
The Weapons look shit..
>>740386890kys newfag
>>740386875
>>740386937so you're backpedaling on the ad hom claim?
>>740386968we already added enough homos to this thread
>>740386953>>740386968>>740386990glad you took my advice
>>740386990right, you better be going
>>740367407What's their bands name?
Why did they make Cid lame as fuck?
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>>740386647I'll spell it out for you slowly and let you put the pieces together. The weapons exist to indiscriminately protect against threats to the planet.What is the purpose of the Shinra Electrical Company?What is the initial premise of the game?There is definitely problems with the storytelling in FF7 but your criticism has been "It's retarded because I don't get it", if you're your going to critique a specific plot point, at least give some critical analysis.
>FFXIV and FFXV did the Weapons betterfucking embarrassing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tj9GsfWghREhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvpNnGRaKwc
>>740387083
>>740378089>playing in english dubkek what a BITCH
>>740387176cuck
>>740387043Cid was an annoying cunt in og. I've been replaying for the first time in a long time and the quality of writing really falls off a cliff once you reach upper Junon.Rebirth has its own problems making Aerith stupidly over represented and refusing to handle Dyne's ptsd story, but on balance it's so much better.
>>740382693There was a missing spot for dead aerith in the OG too you sperg
>>740351521I've replayed the original three times in the space between released.
All this talk about FF7R3 is reminding me of how several people from my old FFXIV static gaslit themselves into thinking Dyne didn't exist because they headcanoned that Marlene was Barret and Tifa's daughter. The fucking meltdown one of them had over voice chat over it, was fucking magical
>>740388448Why do you hang around stupid people?
>>740386014These remake games have been kind of a bullshit-alarm for people that hold the originals as pure and sacrosanct but haven't played them
>>740354876 Because money.
>>740388495I only stuck around to clear the tier
>>740388495You don't make the worst company.
>>740388536>haven't played themNostalgia goggles really are that strong for a lot of people. Especially FFVII and OoT.
They definitely made her tits bigger.
>>740385965>>740386094I don't think they were supposed to combat Meteor specifically in the original. Though it's been a while and honestly I kind of remember the Weapons being a bit underwritten. Like there's a couple of times where they roll up to stomp on shit but it felt like you move past that pretty quickly and then they're regulated to optional bosses. Like that one scene was really cool but most of them just kind of fucked off.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zP4GXdSXUw
>>740388905The weapons attack Shinra sites for their excessive mako mining, "draining the planet". The weapons weren't given a specific target and instead see a parasitic force so go for what they see.The motivation of the weapons is very clear. The weirdness of the weapons as a plot point comes from the main party's motivations which would initially align with the weapons but by this point of the story, they've shifted their focus to Sephiroth.The OG game abruptly dump the eco-terrorism thing so there's some room for the new games to better segue the themes and tie everything together.
>>740356809fucking retard
sooo i never played ff7 not even the ps1 gameswhats the starting point of the remakes?theres that one ff7 remake game that has time shit which ones is that
>>740388905yeah WEAPONs are one of the least explained plot points in FF7, they tie into "humanity... le bad? will le planet... destroy us too?">>740389639remake -> rebirth -> revelation (not released)
>>740351521No I'm waiting for the collection to exist and get down to half off.
>>740351521Tifa in bondage, thrown into a gas chamber, while Barrett gets beaten by Shinra guards.
>>740389664>yeah WEAPONs are one of the least explained plot points in FF7, they tie into "humanity... le bad? will le planet... destroy us too?"I mean the whole humanity as a parasite thing is pretty old hat. It's just weird nobody wants to talk about the giant monster in the room.
>>740389664>remake -> rebirth -> revelation (not released)nice whats with remake integrade then?
>>740389810integrade is some minor updates + an intermissional chapter dedicated to yuffie to let you play as her ahead of rebirth's release, along with a bo staff guy from wutai who's most likely a beta test for cid in revelation
>>740389858but in general its the 1st part of the remake series right?what about these t wo
>>740389880yes remake's the first part of the trilogyever crisis is a port of a gacha smartphone game and crisis core is to my knowledge a straightforward remake of a PSP game
>>740390086gotchai might just wait for the 3rd part to releasethere's most likely gonna be some sort of bundle on sale with all 3 games
>>740390126quite likely, there was a similar one for remake and rebirth when rebirth was releasing
>>740388905WEAPONs are basically white blood cell analogs tearing around fucking up anything that uses mako. Bugenhagen presents the planet as a single organism earlier, so this makes sense if you know what an immune system does. At least I never had an issue with this plot point or found it especially strange.>I don't think they were supposed to combat Meteor specifically in the originalNo. That's why Bugenhagen thinks the planet is hosed. Either Shinra will suck it dry or it'll get whacked by meteor and be too weak to recover. Only dead space jew macguffins can handle this.>>740389664>they tie into "humanity... le bad? will le planet... destroy us too?"No they don't retard.
good christ I can't beleive this shit took a fucking seven fucking years..... WAAAAAAAAAAAIT
>>740364494This. Such a smooth mix of the old system and real-time action. Real weighty too, one of the few action RPGs I can actually sink into the grinding with just because it's satisfying. Literal fidget spinner type shit and I'm about it.Man fuck it honestly I love both Remake and Rebirth. Only real issue I had with the games is the first being linear and the Gold Saucer intro dance sequence in the second. Especially the fucking dancing. That shit was so fucking gay and that's coming from someone with a high tolerance for bullshit when I'm otherwise having fun.
>>740390313>the organisms spawned by the planet that can't or won't differentiate humanity from shinra mako harvesting doesn't tie into character-voiced doubts about whether the planet will allow humanity to stay onok anon
Gen Z here. Isn't FF7 that really old game with the trans protagonist? Why do they keep remaking it? I respect Cloud's gender identity but it seems a bit excessive to keep going back to that well over and over.
>>740364390yeah its fucking awesome
>>740390391>the organisms spawned by the planet that can't or won't differentiate humanity from shinra mako harvestingWhite blood cells have collateral damage on the body. Sometimes severe. They can eat bones trying to dissolve insoluble materials. Humans are also degenerate Cetra. Not actually from the planet.>character-voiced doubts about whether the planet will allow humanity to stay onThose characters don't know what they're talking about in-universe.
>>740390391this is actually such a awesome idea for why godzilla type monsters are a thing
>>740390761Yeah it's been done like a bunch of times.
>>740390385Nah the dance sequences in the Gold Saucer were awesome. Dio makes no sense as a character in the original. You can tell they were planning to do something like that and just never had time to execute. And whatever that gay line dancing thing all those people are doing when you hit the main entrance -- chef's kiss. Really sells the setting.>>740390515This Bravo channel shit I could do without though.
>>740371525He takes up half the Revelation cover.
Why does people want a playable ZackHe already has his own game. Go play it
>>740381842Nigger, it's a hybrid action-turn-based game. You can swap between them and issue commands easily. Is your brain power that limited?
>>740391273Mental illness mostly. Finally getting my boy Vincent is all I need
>>740391494I can't wait to see the fallout over the whole Lucrecia thing
>>740391913He ain't even the biggest cuck anymore. I thank the Zackfags every day this pure ludokino exists
>>740391913They'll retcon it so he's Sephiroth's father and that Hojo was just fucking with him
>>740363120where tf is wutai? did they move it north?
>>740392389wakarimasen lol I've only spotted Mideel from the Highwind
>FFVII prequel set during the early days of ShinRa>Game shows off how the company started and ends with the ShinRa/Republic war Would you play?
>>740392556no
>>740392569Yeah that's better suited for a 20ep anime
>>740351521Not if the job system thing is true.
No. Rebirth sucked.
>>740392614>Not if the job system thing is true.It was in the trailer?
>>740392454ye ik but wutai peninsula is meant to be visible in the image of corel, nibel, gongaga, cc etc. they mustve shifted around locations to make the world map more compact (dont blame them desu)
>half the thread is just bitching about how the remake games are literally Mecha HitlerAs usual. FF is hardly ever discussed on the board when it does get brought up, you bet your ass the thread will be at least half full of retards seething about the Remake games not being exactly up to their standards even though it's painfully obvious they didn't even play the original FFVII.
>>740392950wdym FF is hardly bought up. i agree with the mouthbreathing retards shitting their diapers over the remakes like the japanese developers raped and pillaged their mothers, but at any one time theres at least 5 live threads, even if 3 of them are shipping threads
>>740393131wdym FF is hardly brought* up?*forgive me
>>740390126NTA but be careful with Crisis Core. As a prequel, it does flesh out the lore a lot, but it also gives away the big plot twist of FFVII (which will be revealed in Revelation).
>this absolute flop was the big ending to that shitfest
>>740391989Will people stop calling Vincent a cuck now? Direct your shit to other characters. >>740391989
I never played the Original, how close are we to the end? 40%?
>>740393548end of rebirth is about half of the og game, revelation is the rest
>>740370974Same man. Like whats up with the remake series and their obsession with corrugated/visceral looking plates? Even if they're going for muh realism, somewhat smooth-looking natural armor plates exist. It's like they're scared of smooth plates like this because, what, they think they'd end up looking like robots?
>>740391494They made him watch while Hojo had sex with Lucresia
>Max still pretended to care about FF7 remake
>>740351521I'm excited for the end of this shitty nomura saga, but it probably won't be anyway
>>740393802who fucking knowsjust looks so awful
>>740394030>didn't even recognize Diamond Weapon>who is this lmaoDUDE IS
