>fortnite art styleUh oh... Guild wars bros... Please help me cope. It'll be fine... r-right?
Christ I can't believe they managed to make a MMO with worse artstyle than modern WoW.
>>740363965t. anon with 500+ hours in GW2
>>740363965i hope its just a cinematic. gw1 and even gw2 on release had kino artstyle
>>740363965HIGHGUARDIANSASSEMBLE
>>740365386Just the suggestion of a return of the skill collection system from GW1 on the store page has me interested on a mechanical level, but yeah really hoping the visuals are just a consequence of the alpha build and that it all improves closer to release, game is still at least 2 years away anyway and so much of the visual polish in game development happens in the final stages.
No way this is real
>>740363965the cope in the subreddits is unreal. this game is gonna be absolute shit
>>740369129Yep
>>740369129Provide some links or at least the title name
>>740365553No joke, I thought it was highguard until they revealed some identifying GW features. It really bothers me because if GW2 ever did anything right, it was comfy environment art. Whatever this is looks like horrid dog vomit
Here are the big questions,>Are the Charr still a playable race>is that bear a new race?
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Breezy_Swim_Packhttps://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Fresh_Swimsuit_PackAll this comfirms that the swimsuit was their last ditch effort in getting money after not releasing them for over a decade because of SJWs.
>>740363965Yeah they fucked up HARD. The talent is just gone.
>>740363965the point of an mmo is to create a world that i feel i could get lost in and wish i would explore with all my senses, and to feel like behind the mountains there is a full world existing even without me being therewhen i look at the gw3 art style i am repulsed from wanting to enter the world and i can tell theres nothing behind those mountains
>>740370054>>is that bear a new race?Kodan existed in GW2 vanilla and have their own expansion trama drama dropping it on you because fuck you, feelings
>>740370078that balthazar outfit was the first outfit i bought in gw2 because of how badass it looked on any character, there's 0 chance i spend money on outfits in a game with the highguard art style + the characters will all be ugly chunky mulattos anyway
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Em0Sd60iI2wApologize!
we've been robbed
>>740363965this looks kino as fuckhivtroons are seething
if you told me this was for some random third person action game I'd believe you, didnt look very guild wars to me but we'll have to see
>>740370568>the whore SJW hate how popular she is>made her have a black baby>made her abandon her baby like a whore>have her kill in the most stupidest wayThat fat bitch Angel McCoy really ruin the first couple years of Guild Wars 2.
>>740363965Art style aside, this trailer was so full of nothing I don't even get the point of making it. It's not even an effective teaser like >>740370436
>>740363965Not an ingame shot.
>>740370078Jesus what happened to Western studios man...From something cool like this to... whatever that was in the trailer
I'm hyped for Highguard 2.
>>740371056https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Kekai_KotakiOne of the last artist of his kind before the new artists are full of sjws
Watching SGF right now. This trailer now>No way this gay looking shit is Guild Wars>GUILD WARS 3How fucking lame
>>740363965>fortnight Have you ever seen any screen shots of fortnight because you may be blind.
>>740371305All of his early concept art for the elder dragons was amazing. Way better and more alien than "a dragon but purple with a big chin" and "a dragon but blue with big teeth" we ended up getting.
>>740363965>Guild wars brosare there even any? 2 was a big fuck up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITPzxITngqAsisters, they're not hating it... WHAT DO WE DO??
What is this glazing of gw2? Now i only played it first year but gw2 was gay as fuck compared to gw1. And everything ive heard its got more gay as the years went on. 3 looks like shit but 2 was shit. Why are people surprised?
>>740363965They ruined it with GW2.
>>740363965what a fucking GOYSLOP holy shiti got 10k+ hours in GW1 and 2 combinedfuck anet, im gone with shit wars
>>740371056someone having gw2 concept art in their forum signature used to make them look like a badasshighguard3 art just makes you look like a faggot
RIP the faggots that grind all their time for those legendary stuff when Acsended exist and does what legendary does but a fraction of the grind
>>740363965Looks like a bastard child of Highguard and Horizon Zero Down. Absolute feminized gay slop. It's going to be hilariously woke.
>>740363965They barely showed anything but it feels NGSlike.
>>740363965>playable kodansI am cautiously optimistic.I'll tolerate the art style for now; people don't remember but GW2 originally had a ton of lighting changes from the betas to release
>>740365386it literally says the trailer is in-engine
>>740373362Do people really think this is what Fortnite looks like?
>>740373362has a single game using this "in-engine" disclaimer actually looked like the trailers? people are ignoring that shit for a reason anon, no actual gameplay was shown
>>740373494maybe that was the gameplay and it's exactly as gay and lame as it looks
>>740373173Ngs looks better, somehow
>>740374018It had coomer skins.GW3 is going to be pozzed as fuck.
The wholesome chungus setting looks super gay and lame compared to Guild Wars 1 and 2 even.
People love to shit on WoW's weird ideological story and character decisions (and rightfully so) but GW2 has pulled even more retarded shit, there is no dimension GW3 isn't some of the worst garbage ever made
I can't believe Aion 2 wonned
>>740372001What is there to say? It's a good game. It's been in the top 5 MMOs in the west for 15 years for a reason.Admittedly the top 5 has been WoW, XIV, OSRS, GW2 amd ESO for said 15 years. But still. It isn't GW2's fault the west isn't making good MMOs anymore.
>>740374562i dont think anyone defends 2's plot or characters at all
>>740374762You have retards like the post above you that exist
>>740374913i assure you not even the most staunch diehards will defend the writing
>>740374913>caring about the plot in an mmo
>>740374913Aww, hell no. GW2 is good, but that's completely unrelated to the story and the lore. That is pure dogshit.Fuck man, MMOs used to all have dogshit story if there even was one. WoW's story is trash too. If you play MMOs for story I don't know what to say. XIV has a good story because it's an RPG before it's an MMO.
I sincerely hope this is not F2P or some other poorfag monetary scheme. This would get rid of most of the degenerates.
>>740370078Guild Wars never looked like right in game though. The actual ingame graphics of both GW games have always looked gay and were something you merely tolerated.
>>740375574>This would get rid of most of the degenerates.HAHAHAHAHAHA
>>740375574Guild Wars 1 is going to be F2P in the mobile (only has prophesy) and GW 2 is already F2P. This is no different.
4 seconds before a nigger appears on a screen, its so over, anyway arenanet ruined gw2, cant wait to see how fucked up this game is gonna be
>thousands of skills at launch>COLLECT THEM ALLSo gacha shit...
>>740375574>This would get rid of most of the degenerates.I have never understood this cope. MMOs with paid subs often have just as many, if not more schizos and degenerates compared to f2p games. XIV and WoW are textbook examples here.
>>740376074Most of the people who just stand in town and erp are free accounts.
>>740375738GW1 on mobile is the full game if you have an account (existing accounts will work), but only Prophecies if you don't.
>>740376074its even worse because people think paying 15 dollars entitles them to play like shit and act like an asshole because the customer is always right
>>740376219That why I have (only has prophesy). Watch as nick items getting farm to death by SEA.
>>740363965We may not have femcharr, but we have highguardian nogs.You'll play it, right? :)
>>740376210you can't even /tell or initiate parties with people in xiv as a free acc, it's a horrible game for free degeneracy. the only way a f2p is getting erp is if they either know people from outside of the game (meeting through threads, discord, etc.) or if they manage to pull someone that fucking desperate because erping with f2ps is a stigma there
>>740375278>XIV has a good story because it's an RPG before it's an MMO.been playing XIV and well, i think calling the story good is an overstatement, it has hype moment but there is so much fucking filer that it almost becomes unbearable at times.
>Vaelwarden
>>740375278Take your dumbfuck canned opinions back to r/ffxiv you scumsucking bottom feeder. This is a thread about MMOs not your cult for second life rejects.
Am I the only one that never managed to get invested in MMORPG stories?I tried it with FFXIV. Gave up after like 10 hours. It's not even that bad but the pacing is awful.Tried it with GW2. That one I gave up in like 4 hours. The dialogue is just painful to read.Tried it with WoW. The problem here is that I didn't know what the fuck was going on even after watching a 2 hours long recap movie on youtube and reading tons of wiki entries. Also it suffered from the writing being a bit too disney.OSRS is the only one that can get me invested but I'm not sure if that even counts
>>740376582calling it an RPG its an overstatement too
>>740374562>but GW2 has pulled even more retarded shitcompared to WoW? not even fucking close
Will this feel like a completely new game, or will it feel like a GW2 expansion
>>740377353at least pvp still exists in wow, also story has some shreds of coherence
>>740377228yeah, in no moment you take a rpg decision like unlocking this or upgrading that, everything is pre-planned and pre-build already
>>740377207it's all dogshit. the progression is the real driver for 99% of players and we just lie to ourselves that the story is engaging to make it bearable at least this was my assumption having played MMOs for over 20 years
How does this game compare to Toy Story 5??
>>740370064is this what gaymers really want?
>>740377207OSRS is the gold standard. Then there is Star Trek Online where Your Captain's story and other Trek related story line take priority over the MMO part.
>>740375574sometimes i play gw2 just to hop on spvp and then i remember that everyone playing it is a raging spic that only speaks spanish and goes afk in the spawn when they die in the first 30 seconds of the match and then i remember why i hate free to play games
>>740377207mmo storylines are inherently dogshit because a good story knows when to end, but corpo jews wont allow any game settings to end so they keep the corpse trodding along like halo
>>740370929anet's marketing has been kind of stupid for years releasing a trailer for a new game at one of the biggest events of the year without a hint of conflict, intrigue or anything beyond 'guy riding a mount and running up a wall' seems stupid to me but what do I know?
>>740377842I used to play this shit so much back in heart of thorns, but apparently now its all cheaters, bots and anet never does anything about it
>>740370064its funny that they didnt want to do mounts, actually refused, and then when they finally did it they were instantly successful and are now ICONIC to guild wars. thats anet in a nutshell
>>740370162how did they manage ti make this outfit feel gay
>>740373362protip: all cutscenes are "in engine" yes even prerendered ones
>>740377567zesty
>>740370064companies refusing to allow players to make their characters sexy has to be the most confusing stance to me, theres entire audiences out there whos primary goal is to spend hundreds of hours customizing their character and they'll pay you hundreds of dollars to make them look sexier, but the companies refuse to allow it
>>740377990the problem is they give massive rewards for doing the bare minimum. so you get a lot of pve tourists and bots who dont give a shit, and openly dont give a shit and they wont be banned or disciplined.
>>740370054>Are the Charr still a playable raceNope. Furfags have been cut. SORRY CHARRFAGS, YOU LOSE. Its the bearfag's turn now.
>>740363965>basically still 2 years awayWhy even bother
>>740378237you just have to look at infinity nikki, it was literally a dress up game that was making a bag of money but because it wasn’t doing ALL the money they changed to a regular gacha and is basically dead now, don’t underestimated a corpo retardation
>>740370054The Charr were finally held responsible for their war crimes and were annihilated as a species
>>740378307spvp and wvw have some of the shittiest rewards even if you're doing well the best gold/xp/karma farming is all in pve as long as you know what to farm
>>740378460As opposed to what? The other MMOs that are announced 10 years away and get cancelled?
>>740378487So it wasn't just the intro changing to make the game's plot too similiar to the other Nikki games?>>740378541What?
>purple codedover before it even began. literal doa slop.
>>740363965>Fortnite + Highguard aesthetics and ideasgood lord...
>>740378237>companies refusing to allow players to make their characters sexyThey gave all that control to this bitch. She consider student uniform outfit as pedo and hate sexiness.
Did GW2 ever bring Zojja back or has she been in a coma for a decade because they refused to recast Felicia Day?
>>740378578pvp/wvw was the easiest way to get legendaries last i playedall i do in that game is casual wvw and i had full legends easily
>>740378921>Fortnite + Highguard ideas>no PvP even mentioned
I think you guys have to realise what arenanet is doing if you liked guild wars 1 then gw3 is not for youIf you liked guild wars 2 then gw3 is not for youArenanet wants you to keep playing those games that is why they’re still actively supporting them and making new content just like with guild wars 1 reforgedGuild Wars 3 is for a new audience because that is what arenanet needs the most. Because they’ve been milking the same demographic for 20 years it’s just a reality that they need to grow their audience and they’re gonna grow it with Guild Wars 3So yeah, it looks like Fortnite, but maybe that’s the fucking point
>>740371056God I have always loved this piece of art so much, too bad theres no class for this feel
>>740379051yes in soto she was a main character
>>740379150>warrior rifle will never be as good I hate everything
>A black man on a horse?! Is that literally Highguard
>>740363965>only shown races are humans bears and probably not-asurawould really suck if those are the only races
>>740370929it is tradition at this point for them to announce stuff way too early
>>740379491>probably not-asuraThe guild wars 3 website shows its definitely asura, theres better images showing their ears and shit
>>740379275>With the similar armor style, similar haircut, similar graphics, similar blue glowoh no, I wonder why people say that.
>>740379223i loved sniping commanders with gun flamethey nerf it whenever it gets too fun though
>>740379581post example
>>740379083WvW is still important for the gift of battle but for getting the other materials/gold it's faster to just grind for gold in fractals or some other high gold/hour and then buy whatever is tradable
>>740379640I mean you could just go to the website yourself and look
>>740374631I can't believe NCSoft beat.... NCSoft. It's over for NCSoft.
>>740379491If thats what it ends up being im out. 80% of the players rolling humans would be boring and its what would end up happening.
>>740379182 I can see that but a lot of the younger audience in gaming legit only gives a fuck about shit like roblox and fortnite, there's been a lot of 'like fortnite' type of games and a lot of them are dead
>>740378682Maybe they could announce it when it is a few months from release so they can have more to show than some ue5 soulless slop for a trailer
>>740380091you would think that at game and MMO 3 they would get that player priority number 1 is "making a cool guy"and that only having 3 races and trading down from Charr to bears would lose them some players
>>740380603people have always wanted the bear and bird race. they could easily lose Norn who are just big people. they likely wont ditch charr cause they make money with furries
>highguard flops>the studio behind it goes bust>arenanet picks up all the former highguard devsIt's too perfect...
>>740375278LOTRO and SWTOR have good stories, so does Runescape
>>740380120The reality is that Anet cannot keep catering to an audience that are entering their 40s, they’re gonna end up like LOTRO if they do, besides they’re also not like Blizzard or Square Enix both of which have multiple IPsIf they want to survive as a company, they have to get new customers and that is literally impossible with a game that is 20 years old and with a game that is 14 years old. If they wanted the current players to jump over to the new game they would not announce all the new content for GW1 and not literally just have released an expansion for GW2I think the main project that is GW3 is actually creating an MMO that zoomers want to play which is why they mention in the design document that it’s an evolution of the genre, it is also the most interesting thing so far because good fucking luck with that, zoomers are notoriously allergic to the genre.
>>740381186the only company that even has a chance of remarketing the mmo genre to zoomers is Riot, since copying successful games but making them accessible is their entire portfolio of games arenanet definitely is not the company to pull it off
>>740381384What experience does Riot have with MMOs? I’d say Anet has a much better chance of pulling this off.
>>740363965Honestly kinda disappointed at the arstyle downgrade. The watercolour or whatever you want to call it style that GW1 and 2 used was very iconic.Still I'm interested to see what other changes they're making. I initially completely gave up on GW2 right after release coming off GW1. It eventually grew on me after I gave it another chance after the second expansion. Still never did a lot of end game content or anything, but I never had anyone to play with.I guess it will entirely depend on what they're going to change up with class design and combat. If its just a 1:1 copy of GW2 it might be fine, but I'd like to see bigger changes.>>740364024You can't be serious. "What if we never upgraded our engine and were stuck with 2005 graphics" isn't an art style. Its laziness. WoW is actually abhorrent to look at.
>>740381186To be honest if I had to make a game that appealed to zoomers I wouldn't make an MMO at all, at least not in the traditional sense. Traditional MMOs are just too autistic and impenetrable for them.
>>740381526riot had no moba experience when they made league of legends or shooter experience when they made valorant, they just saw what was popular and figured they could repackage them for wider audiences
Zoomers are already at their 25's, and they do not like this DEI aesthetic. Gen alpha is too young and autistic to enjoy MMOs. Guild Wars 3 will be a product target to a non-existent audience, and will mostly be played by the old millennial and gen X fan base, which will hate losing GW2 for this
GW2 has a massive amount of technical debt and the inclusion of GW Reforged means that they're still dabbling with some ideas. My guess is that GW2 will remain as their long term MMO cash cow for their whales, similar to LOTRO. GW1 Reforged is probably used as a staging ground for some new systems, since they've done ironman mode and other components. The website mentions that GW3 will contain skill collection (GW1 style maybe?) as well as more dynamic movement. They've pushed the boundaries with the mount system when they released it back in the desert expac, so good that it was copied by Blizzard's dragon riding in Dragonflight expac. More action-orientated combat? I'm interested to see how they'll balance it out and what classes they have. Their trailer seems extremely questionable, especially with the lack of distinctive artstyle that made GW1/GW2 great. Their writing since the Heart of Thorns expansion has been tolerable at best. I'll keep an eye out to see what the new gameplay is, but selling this nuDND fantasy game, especially in an MMO format probably isn't a good business model, since MMOs are a dying genre. Then again, Anet has had multiple projects cancelled (Dune, GW2 mobile game), so they need to start pivoting or make a good mmo if they want to survive as a company.
>>740376893Don't act like such a retard.
>>740363965Wonder if they're going to ditch professions and go full skill customization.
>>740381663NTA but making an MMO is a much bigger undertaking than making a shooter or a MOBA. You're making a persistent world that has to endure for years with hundreds of thousands or millions of players interacting with it, and you can't fuck around much with stuff like the economy or balance otherwise people will leave. I remember early on in GW2's life there was an exploit that fucked the economy and Anet responded by banning everyone who attempted it, even people who tried to report the issue. Needless to say they lost some players when they did that. You don't need to worry about problems like that with a MOBA or a shooter.I'm not saying it can't be done but there's a reason there are so few games in this genre and even fewer of those games even last more than 5 years
>>740381607I mean GW2 what’s an evolution of the genre when it came out like the over world maps being so dynamic had never been done before like even the questing system with the hearts where you don’t have to fuck around in menus with NPC’s were extremely innovative they’re still innovative as fuck. The momentum based mount system is also worth mentioning as innovative. I think it would be selling Anet short to claim that they’re incapable of moving things forward, especially now when they literally come and announce their intentions
>>740382082I doubt it.People nearly rioted at the "loose" trinity when GW2 released and they've gotten closer to trinity design as the game aged, not farther.And if anyone at ANET from the GW1 days is still around they'll warn against having that much customization. Half the reason GW2's skill system is designed the way it is, locking everyone down to weapon skills with only a few flex slots, is because GW1 was a nightmare to balance.
>>740382041Kill yourself mutant.
>Cattering to zoomersThey will never learn. Zoomers DO NOT PLAY games, just Fortnite and Minecraft
>>740382517Fortnite and Minecraft just prove that zoomers are capable of long-term commitment to a game which is half of what an MMO is about
>>740382517that image only accurately depicts gen alpha not zoomerszoomers simultaneously grew up during the peak progression of the 3d games industry and the absolute worst part of it, but they play retro games because they recognize the downfallgen alpha doesnt recognize the downfall yet because they only grew up with the same 3 games, and dont play retro games
>>740376405So you only erp with paying players? You sick furry fuck? Should I be impressed?
>>740382216 I enjoy the systems they've made for GW2 for the most part, to the point that playing other MMOs feels like a chore where I need to go around collecting and turning in bullshit that should just be automatic.The issue is more about the audience than the devs. I have 0 faith in zoomers to show up in large numbers for MMOs especially now that a big chunk of them have hit working age.
>>740381794>Guild Wars 3 will be a product target to a non-existent audiencethe mmo market is so fucking barren right now that people will show up just because it's a new game
>>740383292some people like the idea of an MMO until they actually have to play an MMO, that's the problem with MMOs
>>740383393that's objectively false. mmos are simply the most mismanaged type of game there is, especially when you take into consideration that a shit community can make a game unplayablebig as fuck launches like new world, or even lost ark back when it first came around, prove that there is demand for an mmo. even indie mmos made by solo devs like spirit vale can get a daily concurrent player count of 1k.
>>740383292The MMO market is barren because nobody wants to play MMOs. Every modern MMO is either grindslop of the worst kind or an engine for ERP more than a game. GW2 hits the "best" balance of having short repeatable content and some incentive for actually doing it (cool Legendaries) but its not ideal.More than that, there are a now a bunch of "forever game" genres. MMOs used to be the only genre that people would log in and play and progress every single day. Now with battlepasses and shit, any game can be your forever grind game. MMOs present nothing unique anymore. Shit like Genshin does the open world exploration RPG stuff. Shit like Fortnite is better for social gaming with your friends.GW3 will have to do something actually unique in order to carve out its own niche. It absolutely cannot copy what big MMOs are doing right now that audience is already calcified around their current games and will only continue to decline. Fortunately Anet have proven they're not afraid of doing new shit, for better or worse. Mounts and the Heart quest system were good innovations. Fractals and other short multiplayer content were mixed but mostly the right direction. The way they've handled expansions lately hasn't been great though. And the story is a complete mess.
>>740377207gw2 sucks ass
one of the big problems with mmos is inventory bloat, all these games have you managing hundreds of inventory slots with thousands upon thousands of different items and the average person isnt dealing with that bullshitanother problem is games like ffxiv having like 30 skills that you need to press, a normie isnt putting up with having to use keys on their keyboard they didnt even know existed just so they can cast an ability every 75 seconds. GW1 and 2 dont really have this problem as much but I imagine skills are still something that needs to be simplified even further since modern gamers dont have the ttrpg background understanding of stats and classes that old mmo players hadthe entire mmo experience needs to be streamlined but then you run into the problem where other genres just beat mmos at every possible experience someone is looking for like this >>740383693
>>740376893Quiet, wowfag
>>740383693>The MMO market is barren because nobody wants to play MMOs.again, there is demand for a new mmo. if there was no demand whatsoever, we would not be seeing these releases getting large numbers on launch. even mobile dogshit like blue protocol launched to nearly 100k players on steam alone.most mmo enjoyers are getting their mmo fix through either mmolites/lobby games, or they're off fucking around on another "forever game" whether it's a standard GaaS or a private server for some dead game.i do agree that gw3 will likely do something unique though. gw2 consistently did different shit between being the only real horizontal progression mmo and things like the game's mount system being more than a glorified autonavigate. most people looking for something new won't care about the story being awful as long as you can skip scenes.>>740383926gw2's main problem is that it's a button masher with fucked up high apm rotations. normies get a false impression due to the skill bar being short, until they find out that you're going to be spamming weapon swaps and blowing everything off cooldown.
>>740383926They'd probably just not have 99% of this kind of shit. A lot of GW2's items are:currenciescrafting materialsbag/boxes that contain bags/boxes that contain currencies and crafting materialsitems that let you exchange currencies and crafting materials for currencies and crafting materialsitems that let you teleport to placesitems that let you gather crafting materialsbuffs in the form of food/boosters/other shit
>>740383926>nother problem is games like ffxiv having like 30 skills that you need to press, a normie isnt putting up with having to use keys on their keyboard they didnt even know existed just so they can cast an ability every 75 seconds.The best thing that GW ever did, both of them, was avoid GCD skill bloat combat. Its a shit system that I actually don't understand why anyone ever liked. Having a bunch of different skills is cool, sure, but GCDs reduce all those options to an optimal rotation. Even big MMO players mostly just copy idealized and optimized skill roations.GW's design still ends up falling into the meta rotation shit, but at least there's some dynamism to it.tl;dr : Its not normies fault GCD skill bloat combat isn't fun.
How come no one has managed to beat the French in making the best MMORPG of 2026?
>>740373434I think people are saying it looks like fortnite because of the lighting, which makes sense since gw3 is in UE5 instead of anet's in-house engine, Unreal has done untold damage to people's ability to tell games apart
The FIRST thing you show off at the SUMMER GAME FEST is a ZESTY BLACK MAN.That's it.That's the FIRST IMPRESSION you want gamers to have when they see "Guild Wars 3".That's your priority.In a fantasy game.The knight doesn't have a helmet. Doesn't have a cool fantasy design. Nah, he's riding a generic monster and looks like he just got out of a rap concert in downtown detroit.That's the priority.Hahaha, shit is FUCKED.>muh raci-Nobody cares in 2026.
>>740384178Oh yeah, that shit is aids
>>740384268it's arenanethow the fuck are you surprised
>>740384109>if there was no demand whatsoever, we would not be seeing these releases getting large numbers on launch. even mobile dogshit like blue protocol launched to nearly 100k players on steam alone.Pay attention to more than just MMO releases.Almost EVERY game has a huge release and then falls off a cliff. Most people are looking for their next forever game fix, and as long as barrier to entry is low, they'll check out almost anything. This isn't MMO exclusive, its for all multiplayer games.
>>740383693MMOs are still good at massive coop PVE experiences and PVP. A good theme-park MMO can still thrive.>>740384238Dofus is peak but you have to play with French people
>>740384327nobody wants to play with french people
>>740384268Anet's newest expansion has a side quest where you have to listen to a shipwrecked dude cry about confessing to his gay lover. They're shamelessly woke and the community is the same.
>>740384178returning to gw2 and seeing my characters inventories + my bank inventory + my mailboxes random items makes me want to blow my head clean offit's game design like this that has endured far too long in the mmo space and needs to be modernized like every other genre has handled account rewards/items
>>740384389>>740384302Then the game will flop and the studio will close.Most of the comments on twitch were "Highguard 2".They know they're going to get fired. I think they have a martyrdom complex.
>>740384268>anet is bad at marketing that’s a new one
>set 1000 years before gw1>presumably before Abaddon even gave magic to humansso how are gonna cast lightning from our hands and shiet, are we gonna make warlock pacts with spirits?
>>740384318I do pay attention to more than MMO releases anon. Game drop offs are normal, but the massive spikes usually happen to big games.The point is that if people didn't want MMOs, then this wouldn't apply to every MMO release with the bare minimum of marketing. Actual niche, dead genres aren't hitting these numbers.
>>740373494>>740373362you realize every game engine can play an mp4 in-engine right? the disclaimer is meaningless, only designed to trick retards into thinking you're watching the game being played and rendering in real time
>>740384452It's not about making a good game, it's about enforcing an agenda. It doesn't matter if they are fired, they will just jump to the next DEI company and keep doing this shit
>>740363965
>>740384268I dont even need to look to see that ANET is now compromised of diversity hires and whoever made GW2 no longer works there
>>740384268helmets stopped existing in games the moment big A list actors got face scanned into games and needed everyone to know the character was themnow we just dont get to have helmets at all because it is imperative that you know the characters racial and sexual makeup
I don't care if they want to put a black guy in the game but why do they make everything look so lame? Even the WoW art team is succumbing to this kind of thing. What happened to artist that want to draw badass shit?
>>740384586The art industry is controlled and funded by (((them))). It is a total nepo shitshow. It's a repeat of what caused Hitler to go apeshit, unironically.
I don't have an image that comes close to accurately portraying my anger, disappointment, and disgust that this exists.Fuck you, Arenanet and fuck anyone who plays GW2.
>>740379491my copium is that since this is in a different engine anet might be capable of releasing new races with expacs, it's just that though, copium
>>740384586>What happened to artist that want to draw badass shit?replaced by carebear bleeding heart catmommies on ssris
>>740384586oldschool artists had to use their imagination because they were inspired by books, poems, black and white films, paintingsthey were also allowed to get away with drawing fantasy the way THEY wanted to because it was niche
Explain what new gameplay or system will make this better than other MMOs.
>>740384109ironically some of the best builds are autoattack builds where you shouldn't cast anything except where you need tostuff like hammer dragonhunter or p/p unload deadeye but those builds are kinda boring even if they're effective so I can't blame people for not wanting to play that shit
>>740371897I'm fucking hyped you shit eating worm. I bet they went for a dark souls/monster hunter combat system with more skill based attacks per weapon.
>>740384774wait until their blogpost tomorrow I guess
>>740371897i'm not retarded enough to hate something when there's borderline zero info on it
>>740384510that just means it looks even worse in-game if this is all they can muster for a pre-rendered movie
>>740384828Kek.
>>740370763I wonder if it was personal. After all, Eir was clearly based on Ree Soesbee who was one of the devs.
I feel like companies should just accept that actual "gaming" will end within 30 years. You're not going to get these kids to buy GW3 man, they haven't bought a single game in their entire lives. Just make another game for your grandpa fanbase and ride into the sunset.
>>740384774the implication on the website is that it'll be action combat similar to or more action-y than gw2, but with gw1 build freedomit outright mentions skill collection.
>>740384828>I'm fucking hyped>calls someone else 'shit eating'The irony.
>>740384956>says the guy cussing!!!are you 12
>>740384889Do zoomers only buy costumes in their gacha "games" nowadays? Not a problem for an MMO to hook them with a free weekend in the future.
>>740384985Oh, no wonder you're hyped for this trash. You are literally too dumb to grasp what my post was trying to say.
>>740363965oh no. even the logo looks gay.
>>740384557Yeah but don't forget, having women wearing revealing clothing is too unrealistic. Not eschewing the article of protection you need on every job site.
>>740363965games are dead anon.
>>740385080it's literally a series of red flags, they're telling us to stay far away
>>740363965>prequel set 1000 years beforewhy? what does this let them accomplish?
>>740385080Goy Wars 3
>>740384586Enshittification takes many forms
unironically the only person i know who's hyped for this is a guy i know who turned trans, is 28 with no job or education, lives in an apartment his mom pays for, plays ffxiv, and is only hyped for gw3 because he'll play any mmo that distracts him from having to find a job
gw2 was the most woke trash shit like before even wow went woke.You idiots literally didnt play the game.
>>740385135surprising number of red flagsGW2 looked badass what happened?why did they decide to make a purple highguard clone?
>>740363965I mean, GW2 will have been out for 15 years in 2027. Can't really begrudge them making a sequel.
>>740385045If GW3 isn't releasing on phones you're not getting them, period
>>740385137go back to a simpler fantastical time without steampunk and futuristic technology everywhere
>>740384774i want it to play like 2 but they reduce the idiotic spamming somehow
>>740385206Anon there's Asura in the concept pics on the GW3 site.
>>740384828>I'm hyped>tries to compare dark souls and monster hunter like they're anything close to the same type of game
>>740384669if 100 people were asked whether this was a real drawing or ai, all 100 wouldve said ai, yet here we are and this is somehow a game normies are hyped for
>>740385137Explore Orr and the high magic stuff thereGet rid of the magitech and steampunk stuffGenocide the CharrConnects to some of the lore they've hinted about the pre-dragon stuff and pre-GW1 erasLets them put the gods back in.
>>740385224>Reduce idiotic spamming>PLEASE I NEED MY GCDS AND 32 SKILL BARS
>>740385257yes but before they went underground their technology and architecture looked a bit more grounded
>>740385137they've been writing themselves into a corner in GW2they killed one of the human gods who was still hanging aroundthey killed all of the elder dragonsthey stopped demons from invading tyriathey killed all the titansand now there's some new gay ominous world ending threat but no one knows what it is yet because the villain won't tell us and he's the only one who knows
>>740384389>Anet's newest expansion has a side quest where you have to listen to a shipwrecked dude cry about confessing to his gay lover.Uhhhhh but what about all the heterosexual relationsbips you DONT hear about? Just because you hear about this one fag relationship doesnt mean all the others are fag relationships1!1 (this was what some faggot tried pulling when i brought up that exact hero point in a thread just two days ago).
>>740363965I'm more worried that GW2 now has a complete package listed. So this is it for the game?
Damn Orr looks stupid and gay. Like a bouncy castle with random hills.
>>740384479>so how are gonna cast lightning from our hands and shietWe're gonna rub our feet on the carpet to generate a static charge then discharge it onto our enemies. Movement and momentum based combat after all!
why does every game need to have a nigger front and center?niggers are literally probably like 2% of the guild wars playerbase and most of the devs would be whitewhen are they going to get over this retarded forced diversity shit
>>740385361i just dont like the current state of 2>pve: stack and spam boons and hit your number keys>wvw: stack and spam boons and hit your number keysreason i stopped playing
>>740385458>finally get yearly expansions going people have clamored for since day ONE>kill the game for the sequelsure sounds like arena net business genius
you know what's fucking crazy? this is yet another Guild Wars game that doesn't take place during the actual guild wars
>>740385260Sounds like your ego is bruised.
>>740385540The games that do flop fast.This shit looks like highguard. I predict 10k players peak, falling to 5k in two weeks, and then 1k in a few months.Art design is repulsive. MMOs live or die by that and the gameplay. blacks are the priority above anything else. It is the first thing you see.
>>740385278>inplying the devs didnt use ai to make it
>>740385601nobody really gives a fuck about the lore not even anet
>>740385540Blacks have always been all-powerful in the Guild Wars franchise.
>>740384848...as opposed to being hyped about something with borderline zero information about it?
>>740385540I wouldn't take any ANet marketing seriously. They're known for retardation in that department.
>>740384882>After all, Eir was clearly based on Ree Soesbee who was one of the devs.Yeah but i wanted to fuck her so she gets a pass
>>740385685i'm not hyped eithercautiously optimistic because mmos are dogshit rn
>>740385135>it's literally a series of red flagsKek
>>740385678Shut the fuck up, Kormir.
>>740370078you can call art style all you want, but that's abject decline in quality
>>740385257>there's Asura in the concept pics on the GW3 siteAnd theyre all incredibly undertechnologicalized if youve noticed. Most of them are wearing heavy armor with no magitech anywhere to be found
>>740385458Theyre finally calling icebrood saga living world season 5? Thats news to me
>>740382089The other obvious problem is that a MMO is dozens or even hundreds of times larger than a MOBA.Riot tried to make a MMO, and despite the idea being extremely well received, it failed because their team simply failed to develop it. MMOs die all the time during production phase, it's not easy to pull it off at all, and at some point you realize everything you made is unsalvageable.
>>740385765>cautiously optimistic because mmos are dogshitthe fact theyre all dogshit should be curbing that optimism to begin with. Im saving any optimism im willing to give for when we actually have details on the game outside of a 90 second trailer of "totes ingame engine" and banner threading.
>>740382089I gotta give it to them they're ballsy for attempting an MMORPG sequel in modern day. Genre largely considered dead by most people AND GW2 was pretty divisive as it is.
>>740376368There's never been a more badass MMO race than Charr the playerbase proceeded to then ruin.
Best decision. GW2 aged like milk because of its „realistic“ art style
>>740386287Those furry bastards burned Ascalon.It was a fate worse than death that they deserved.
Why does it read>play solo or with friendsOn the website? Doesn’t sound like a traditional MMORPG.
>>740386374You lost. Stay mad.
>>740386636>Glide, ride, leap, and wall-run across Orr with a one-of-a-kind movement system that transfers your momentum between modes of travel, providing a free-form joy of movement through a world alive with adventure.It's indeed suspicious how they make it seems there's a single region to explore. Maybe it's not an MMO after all, but something like Crimson Desert
>>740386792considering the changes from gw1 to gw2 every change is on the table
>>740384178That's kinda the reason I quit. I stopped playing somewhere before the first expansion. Reinstalled the game numerous times wishing to play it again. Logged in, looked at the inventory... Nope. I don't want to play it anymore. One time I even bought all the expansions that were released at the time. Haven't played it.
>>740385135>he doesn't know the difference between a flag and a banneroh no
>>740386920>beneath those voluminous skirts
>>740375592>Guild Wars never looked like right in game thoughYes it did you faggot. I never played GW2 but GW looked just as awesome as its art promised.
>>740370078It's Runescape cosmetic armour.
>>740365114Now you know how us guys with thousands of hours in gw1 felt when gw2 dropped and it was a significant downgrade
>flying mountits dead on arrival
not gonna lie, this thing doesn't excite me at all as someone who has over 5000 hours in both GW games. sound too small scale. what do you mean it's just Orr? sound like they want to do crimson desert or another shitty botw clone. GW2 might have turned out bad, but I remember when it got announced it felt very exciting.
>>740363965So we should see the dwarves again, right?
>>740387113>When it's readyFond memories. Then the first beta released and I could tell immediately that it was shit. Oh well. I'll always cherish the original.
>mfw this shit was probably developed during the expansion drought of 2017-2022
>woman is in charge>game is great >Woman leaves the studio>Said studio's games turn woke>their games turn to complete shitUh-oh /v/, your narrative has collapsed and it turns out there are talented women in gaming... Or at least there used to be.
>>740387318snap back to reality grifter
>>740387318GW2's big problem was they had rotating chairs for content directors during the living story heyday. Nothing feels cohesive because everyone kept pulling stories in difference directions. People only remember the outrage, though.
>>740370568>navel coveredgay design
>>740387318a woman was responsible for writing scarlet briar, possibly the worst character ever written
>>740363965I'm still believe this is literally assets reused from Highguard. Do not buy the Trojan Horse.
>>740387271They probably started on it but it wasn't greenlit until around two years ago when NCSoft spilled on an investor call that it was in development.
>>740387318>>740387549their REAL loss was actually jeff grubb. man responsible for a lot of the world building and incidental world dialog that everyone praised brought the world to life. sadly, he left in 2016 to go to amazon of all places.
>>740387549>GW2's big problem was they had rotating chairs for content directors during the living story heyday. Nothing feels cohesive because everyone kept pulling stories in difference directions. Guess when it started my guyExactly when Ree left them. Because she was the only real writer and world builder with talent on the team.
>>740363965Dragon Age Veilguard expansion pack looking good!
>>740386374>Charr reclaim their land>This is somehow badLol
>>740385663We did when gw1 was a thing. Shame they massacred their own world building.
>>740387760>"their" land>turns out the charr also took that land from someone elseCrazy right, this could never happen in real life
>>740387318who’s that semen demon? more of her?
>>740387318>>740387675>rpg corebooks>novels>>740387549>marvels comics through cronysimyikes
>>740387113>Now you know how us guys with thousands of hours in gw1Not him but those hours are still useful for experience and it allows players to make Ironman runs a lot easier. If anything, GW2fags are about to get ignored by Anet and pretend they don't exist, just like how they did with GW1 when they don't bother telling GW1 players about the GW2 beta signup or announce it in guildguru.
>>740370763you say that like the story got better. it was only slightly good during path of fire and even then they still raped the original lore.
>>740378834thats crimson though
>>740388278I know anon. It doesn't stop that its because of that bitch, we're stuck with these retards, Scarlet bullshit, and her steampunk pirates. PoF is only "serviceable" because we do not have to deal with these retards all that much, (Kasmeer might as well be a different character).
Everyone was screaming "Highguard 2" when the trailer was revealed. That's fucking grim. Guaranteed flop.
>>740388204>If anything, GW2fags are about to get ignored by Anet and pretend they don't exist, just like how they did with GW1 when they don't bother telling GW1 players about the GW2 beta signup or announce it in guildguru.
>>740388445I liked two lesbos because hot lesbos are hot. Couldn't give a shit about the rest of them. I miss Destiny's Edge.
>>740388445To think those guys could replace Destiny's Edge was comical.
>>740388479It's not even a PVP game or the same genre
>>740388479Just compare it to GW2 trailer.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Em0Sd60iI2w
>>740363965i like the mount and environment aesthetic but i'm not too sure about those character models
>women and low t men take over>makes nigguard wars 3lol
>>740389323Why? It's just the generic UE5 alps setting that plagues every MMO trailer. I could make a collage with tons of examples, easily
If it makes GW2 trannies seethe I'm all for it.Hope everyone leaves that dogshit game.
>>740389384I mean, Elona exists. Question is what's a black guy doing in Orr?
>>740389495Woke
Even though I never played it I always liked the artstyle of GW2. This however is a travesty and I'm sorry for people who were looking forward to it.Unfortunately this is the future for every franchise we loved.
>>740389495NF, Factions are respectable expansions to GW1GW2 Factions was an absolute joke because it takes nothing serious from its original world and gives it a liberal wash of the world itself, aka a californian interpretation of it, which becomes much more racist itself. GW3's design is nothing different from highguard 2's art style. it's ugly, it's bashed together modern fantasy and there's no sovl
>>740389618>californianseattle
they gonna retcon and butcher the lore for sure.>over 1000 years ago>forgotten should be still in tyria>mursaat should be around >margonites should be human>abaddon hasnt yet waged war against the other 5 gods>glint hasn't written the flameseeker prophecies yet (how the fuck can a dragon write?)>humans shouldn't have magic because abaddon hasnt gifted it to them yetalso funnily enough the first guild war hasn't even happened yet. why name the game guild wars 3 if there wasn't even a guild war at that time?
>>740389763even worse
Any game without this skill system is not Guild Wars and can fuck off.>>740389820This sounds like such hippie bullshit
>>740363965GW2 was extreme slop of the highest order. What's even the point if just playing infinite grind clothes shop sinulator?It's more like Animal Crossing than any actual game
>>740389495zesty ahh nigro
>>740389874>one of the most annoying elite skill to obtain>its one of the least used
>>740389820a prequel mmo to a setting like guild wars never shouldve made it off the drawing boardgw3 reeks of a desperate last shot from anet knowing theyre going to get disbanded soon
Just imagine being a developer of a videogame studio, where 1 year on from a conference where a game with ugly dreamworks fortnite slop artstyle is shown with a kalergi mutt with plastic sci fi armour rides an animal into battle completely divebombs into such a failure it destroys the studio instantly - and then saying hey let's copy their workWhat the fuck is going on with western game dev. Who is making all these horrific art decisions. Why are games being made to look fucking retarded and gay and focus on some zesty negro in the trailer.
>>740363965It could just be I don't like the art style because we haven't seen shit from how the game itself plays, but my gut reaction was "this is some Enshrouded clone". Not good.
>>740389495>Question is what's a black guy doing in Orr?GW3 is taking place in ancient Orr before it sank, and Orr is literally a peninsula right along Elona; it's actually pretty justifiable from a geographical standpoint between the physical location and GW3 being a 1000 year prequel. I'm more curious about what the fuck a Kodan is doing in Orr, the shiverpeaks are much further away than elona
>>740389820>why name the game guild wars 3 if there wasn't even a guild war at that time?Why name Guild Wars 2 when it had nothing to do with guild wars? Same thing, it's the name of the franchise, it's not connected to the lore.
>>740390047It wasn't even a year on - Highard was shown at the Game Awards, which was end of last year. It's been maybe 6 months since highguard was shown and so at that exact moment Guild Wars 3 must've been literally working on their own black guy riding mount fortnite style trailer at the same time.
>no charrOh well, I don't really need to get into an MMO again anyways. It'll just suck up hundreds of hours of my time.
RIP.
>>740363965The charrs owe HUMANITY reparations
>>740390165didn't elonans turn black because turai ossa and his expedition failed to ascension
>>740363965It looks gay as fuck.
I have played RO, WoW, FFXI, FFXIV, TERA, Runescape, Cabal, Allods. Never played any Guild Wars.I was thinking of maybe trying GW3, but boy, does it look bad.How is the GW/GW2 community taking the new look of the game?
>>740390165I could see some being around if this part were land, but that'd also assume that the kodan are dicking around in the southern shiverpeaks for whatever reason instead of staying near the north, while also assuming they passed through the mountain ranges. It'd definitely be a worse trip than some random people wandering in from the crystal desert.I won't look at it too closely tho if it means they'll let us play as the bears and desu they probably need them as a charr replacement for the furry race
>>740390165Janthir Wilds actually had some bits about how a very long time ago some tribe of kodan moved south and became the lowland kodan brown bear types we see in that expansion, and they apparently split between Janthir and Orr.
>>740363965I FUCKING CAN'T WAIT TO PUNCH SOME BIGOTS!!LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOO
>>740377207I don't know why anyone wants story in MMOs at allYou can give your world some lore and some one shot stories in the quests but trying to make the world revolve around the developer's pet characters is never good
>>740387318>>740387678she looks like she actually loves tolkien.
Best thing? The fucking no name mmo streamers trying to hype this trash up got what they deserved. Some still cope while others call it out. Fuck this woke-ass trash.
>>740390383I remember a few did, but I don't remember all of the blacks being caused by a failed ascension>>740390559Yeah even if they came by sea, it'd still be a pretty long trip. I'm not too upset because the bears are cool, but i'm fully expecting them to have fucked up cosmetics like the charr did.>>740390589I dropped GW2 before that point but if it's true then it's nice that it checks out.
Fuck D&D 5eFuck Critical Roll or RoleFuck USAIDFuck the color purpleFuck transand fuck woke
>>740363965is anyone actually excited?
>>740387318I think the narrative has long been people make the studio, not that the studio is what makes the game great. Such as it is.But then again you have people with a weirdly parasocial relationship to people who got kicked out of their studios a decade ago while still slurping what the new people shit out so...
>>740370162This alone will be reason enough for me to pick this up. Bear bara fags we're finally eating good.
>>740384178What a meme image. Now press the button on the top right and half that shit gets auto sorted into your bank and the next visit to any vendor rids you of any junk items with one click.And whoever leaves his festival/event stuff on his main deserves inventory bloat.
>>740391030Excited? No.But I'll keep an eye on it in case I have the chance to be pleasantly surprised.
>>740371354I kept telling myself for it to please not be GW3. This was there chance to return to form, I dont know why I thought such a foolish thing.
new races:>tyrone>dwarf>kodan>hairy asuraAnd still no fucking Tengu?
>no charr>no saladwhat's the fucking point man
>>740391030dick suckers looking to monetize content. people with 15 years in gw2 are afraid its now finished, and it doesn't look good enough for brand new players.
>/v/ hates itThat's all I needed, thanks guys. Wishlisted.
>>740391253>mfw they announce "going back to the roots" and only humans as playable
>>740391132>material storagethat's the other problem, material storage limits are meme problem invented by the devs to frustrate players into spending moneywhy can't players just store as many materials as they want? the default limit is 250, you have to pay $8-$10 worth of premium currency or the gold equivalent to increase it by 250 each time2000+ material storage is $64-$80 or the equivalent worth of gold
>>740391637They will never do that because the playerbase for gw2 is like 50% furries.
>>740391626But /v/ also hates GW2
>>740363965Calling this Fortnite style is like saying WoW looked cartoony. It's wrong but everyone says it because most people aren't very smart.
>>740391712Yeah and I'm having a blast there too
>>740391675material storage is irrelevant unless you care about crafting. which seems to be a thing for many mmorpgs for some reason. eso also comes to mind where you basically have to subscribe to craft normally or you're lugging ingredients with you.
>>740369129Go back
>>740391675>or the equivalent worth of goldWhich is nothing. You really don't have to spend money on this since gold accumulates really fucking fast.
>>740391553Yeah, because there was no winning move here. People either dreaded GW3 or awaited it because it's something new.
>>740391723The fucking video starts with a literal cartoon fortnite shaved head negro riding a mount in plastic sci fi armourLiterally EVERYONE thought it was Highguard they were about to show
>>740391761not just crafting but also playing the marketyou pretty much have to carry around a ton of bullshit while prices are low to sell them when they're high
>>740363965>fortnite art style
I wonder if "action combat" means this might turn out into a more New World affair.
>>740387318>Used to beHere's the thing, those are the operative words.
>>740391723its the new drama now that people stopped caring about the laufey stuff
>>740392116Because everyone is pathologically cynical. Only people who "care" are those making money from the outrage.
>>740392063in a twist of irony, it's going to be TERAit'll even be on consoles
>>740392181true enoughthere will be a different drama tomorrow regardless
Better be no furfag races, seen what's happened to wow and gw2 when you let these mentally ill fuckers in
>>740392252Did you look at the trailer? With your eyeballs?
>>740392252there's a furry race but it's bears instead of charr so it's an improvement
>>740370763>>740379049rent free
>>740392252Or else what? You'll be non-buynary? Shiver me timbers faggot you weren't going to play it anyway.
>>740392252anon there is a bear in the OP, use your eyes
>>740392385kek
>>740363965>WoW lost to this
>>740392482Guild Wars was never a factor to WoW. Both games are great "off MMORPGs" you play between something else.
>>740392341Great improvement, now it's furries AND barafag.
Is gw1 worth picking up?
>>740363965How is this for gauging interest?
>>740392554bears filter away most furries because they aren't furry enoughwe'll see an overall drop in the average of degenerates to cool people either way. bears will have some barafags but not many furries, and that's assuming that norn aren't an option for the barafagsasura rats will see more furfags
>>740363965>>740392605I guess people like it
>>740392635>bears aren't furry enough >Rats are furrier than bearsAnon, define furry?
>>740392605actual problem is era of mmo hype is over. recent kickstart project fumbles didn't help either.
>>740392740people who kickstart MMOs are genuinely insane
>>740390343and what form would you propose these reparations take
>>740373362Are people really saying these graphics are too good to be true to be realLMAO
>>740387206yeah, instead of norns you get dwarves if you want different-sized humans
After how much of a massive disappointment the HoM ended up being, I can’t wait to see how they entice veteran players to stick around this time
>>7403932479 man raids and copying ff14 for pve content without the msq
>>740363965Fortnite? Where does that look like Fortnite?
>>740393308Too bad the left system in 3 will be borderline useless too I’m sure
But how WoW is going to respond to this?
>>740391723It's not wrong.
>>740364024Oh come on, outside of some character models of races WoW looks pretty, it just has gorillion other problems.
>>740363965>wow players are trying to frame it as a Highguard mmoGrim.
It will be UE5 slopman im tired every game has literally the same art style because of this fucking garbage engine
>>740393484with nothingthe same fucking boring delvesthe same fucking maze+ contentthe same fucking 20 man raids designed for two rwf guilds and nerfed and raped for the rest after two weeksthe same lore rapethe same old content is unimportant dogshit and you need a fucking event to enjoy itthe same fomothe same raped pvp players not playing real pvp gamesthe same addons to play the gamethe same upcoming retard riot mmo who wants to ripoff wow and just brings back mazed wow troons back to their game againthe same classic turd vs retail shit toddlerfightwow fucking wins by doing nothing
Gonna be interesting to see how they intend to target a new audience, because aiming for the WoW/XIV/OSRS audience is dumb as fuck
>>740363965Fuck. It's really not funny when it's a sequel to something you put 500+ hours in.
I just hate prequels.
if the rewarding system is not reworked and still gives me 1 silver, 10 copper and an unidentified gear I will not be playing. GW2 felt like a chore with nor reward
The kodan r34 is gonna be so good boys I can't wait
>>740393834Dofus*the best MMORPG of 2026
>>740380091>80% of the players rolling humans would be boringIt's already the case with GW2 though which is why they won't beother making quirky races anymore besides "human - token big race - token small race"
>>740363965The only thing they had to do was not make it UE5, like holy fuck, if your company is too brain-drained to use their own engine, any other option would require extra concentrated effort to look as bad.Apparently this has been known for years since anet was hiring UE devs but I just found out and I'm mad.
>>740394661UE5 is probably better than their inhouse engine. GW2 runs like shit.
>>740392665DayumMillenials love their slop
>>740378151ignoring the fact that you're a retarded nigger for nitpicking word like that, you could argue that pre-rendered is outside of the engine since it's an export.
>>740395261Let's see what WoW has>in game pride paradesDayum
>>740395339You really have to pinch your nose to play a modern mmo, huh?
>>740395530Wowers are so easy to spot.
>>740395339Who the fuck asked?You sound like the kind of retard to barge in yelling "B-BUT WHAT ABOUT DRUMPF" everytime someone is talking about europoors' politics
>>740395530>>740395659>double aggroDayum
>>740395530more like pinch your ass never knows when a dildo shows up baka
>>740363965Gw2 has been woke for a long ass time, not a big surprise. Also, the game has been coasting off the success of the original devs that made the base game and first expansion. The modern devs could never have come up with such a nice artstyle and theme. There's gotta be a connection between SSRI's and lack of modern creativity, I remember when I tried that shit and my mind was blank, now imagine that 40% of young americans are on psychiatric medicine of some kind and it's lopsided heavily towards women, probably like 70% of young women are taking something, and they tend to congregate towards the creative aspects of vidya development like artstyle and storytelling, so that about explains it for me why this modern shit all looks the same.
>>740396161>and first expansion.I still love HoT.The arc of military buildup only to end in absolute disaster.
>>740387113not to everyone,GW2 had a lot of charm, the art style, concept and splash arts were amazing, and the gameplay, despite it's casualization, was a thousand times more appealing than GW1 was.I also appreciated the lack of autistic gear treadmill.I genuinely liked the races, character editor and the relatively short lived personal story options. Man.. I miss those, the living story and expansions just aren't the same, nothing they've done has capture that magic that Guild Wars 2 had at launch. I guess they simply got lazy, didn't want to spend money on Voice Actors and coding branching paths anymore
>>740392908State mandated charrs wife for EVERY human male
The only positive I could expect from this would be possible vertical maps. But everything I've seen so far suggest vast open planes and occasional cliffs to climb.A far cry from maps like the hot maps, Lowland Shore or creative stuff like Draconis Mons. A layered magical jungle above a boiling lake inside a domed volcano is exactly the kind of high fantasy stuff I want.
>>740396796Crimson Desert has been scratching that itch for me. I don't think I can ever go back to MMOs.
>>740363965My friend has been malding out about it being a prequel cause that means no engineer class, but what the fuck are Asura doing everywhere in the concept art shown and the trailer, aren't these little pricks supposed to be deep underground?
>>740396796>The only positive I could expect from this would be possible vertical mapsFuck noHoTs maps were terrible
>>740363965GW2 is too grindy game. You have to play for years before you get legendary items. like 2 of them.I hope this time around they will change that.
>>740363965>Unreal Engine 5The ass graphics are the only way they could get an MMO running in such dogshit, and they are using UE5 so they can hire and outsource to indians.
>>740397223i always liked that because it kept legendries being rare and lived up to their name, they definitely were "most players won't have these" and I think that's okay for an mmo, i get why it would piss some people off though
>>740392252Fucking retard. The best case scenario are more mentally ill people of opposing bases. People will freak and fight all day.
>>740370763>>made her have a black babyJust like real life
>>740363965Guild wars troons get what they fucking deserveAnd there will be tranny NPCs again
I can't get excited anymore
>>740400073WoW will be dead after midnight and last titan
>>740390553Not great, between the furfags mad that Charr aren't in the game to others deriding it as Highguard 2.I'll just stay on GW2 since they already confirmed they're still gonna develop it.>"enjoy no content—"We haven't had content since fucking Icebrood Saga 7 years ago, we've accepted our fate at this point.
>>740380091people do that even with tons of optionsat worst they end up barely second because people want to be a knife ear instead
>>740401676I rolled charr and norn before human, but stuck to human because arenanet put 0 effort into making armor look good on charr and norn(male).
>>740397037If you have an IQ over 80 and are capable of spacial thinking it is great.
>>740400971I'd just like to interject to say I'm not mad, just disappointed
KILL CHARR, BEHEAD CHARR, ROUNDHOUSE KICK CHARR INTO A CONCRETE! CRUCIFY FILTHY FURRIES.
This being a prequel sucks. Would be better to try advance the timeline, and even try to make it full Steampunk/Dieselpunk for a chance, instead of going to a period that more primitive than the previous game, with its cool parts of magi-tech with Asura, and gunpowder-tech with the Charr.
>>740391675>why can't playerscongrats, you just discovered how every sass operates
>>740402032Belay these ordersHug charr, love charr, roundhouse kick charr into bed instead
I'm concerned that their Orr won't have any of the nice scenery I'm used to unless they go full retard and add a dozen different biomes to the continentalthough they COULD handwave it via the presence of the gods
>>740402150>This being a prequel sucks. Would be better to try advance the timelineThis is my complaint every time anybody makes a prequel about anythingI fucking hate prequels, I'm still mad about BG&E2I DON'T WANT TO SEE MORE OF HISTORY, I WANT TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS NEXT TO THE CHARACTERS AND THE WORLD
>>740392598if it's on sale and you like rpg adventure games, yeah
>>740400197>tanked WoD>tanked Shadowlands>will probably tank Midshitenah
Looks like it's built with UEexplains why everything looks plastic and cartoony
>>740401676FFXIV has pretty good diverse racial population. They are all appealing in their own ways.Here you have human, yoda or bara furfag.
it will be kinoWoW literally copied Guild Wars flying mechanics because nu-Blizzard creatively bankrupt
>>740394714So does nearly every UE5 game so seems like a wash. At least the GW engine has that neat feature where it can be updated while the servers remain live
>>740390047I first saw this when humankind came out, completely flopped to public hate for its retarded ideasThen firaxis saw this shit in the trash and thought it was amazing and copied its ideas into civ 7, which is now flopped on an even grander scaleThe truth is, modern studios & devs do not care what sells or is publicly popular, they are actually making what they want to make, they are seriously disregarding all notions of financial gain or fame to make what they want most, in humankind-civ 7's case devs were so entranced by civ switching implying humans are interchangable they had to drop everything to make a game with itTo these devs, making a corporate approved mystery meat man in scifi armour with a hollywood nog haircut riding a weird mount is some kind of high noble art and creating yet another one is highly fulfilling and they cannot resist the urge to do so despite their real interests in not doing so, they probably continue to do this while seriously sneering at the public for failing to understand the deep message and symbolism like modern art fans do
>>740406328NTA but this is funded,you may think it's some protest or financial disregard from the devs perspective, but it's fully endorsed by their higherups, and the blackrock money they accepted.In short, every studio that does this shit is NOT doing it because they think it's cool, fun or appealing, but solely because they've been paid to "normalize" mediocrity in all it's forms except graphics, and even that can and will be shit if it's awfully optimized like they tend to be.
>>740406218Vaults
Every GW2 profession feels the same to play.
>>740407145Not at all,Something like a warrior feels like a snorefest compared to mesmers, elementalists, engineers and thieves, and the vast majority of expansion class upgrades make some of them play very differently from their normal styles
>>740375592Nigga...
>>740375592i played GW1 an hour ago and it the mood in this game is amazing, you are an imbecile
>>740365386I always found GW2 to be ugly. everything sticks out, doesn't feel like a cohesive aesthetic
>>740407285Its just pressing 5 buttons off cooldown aside from Thief lol.
>>740407856Anon I'm sorry to tell you but you either have problems with your eyes or the visual processor behind them
>>740408373why do you pretend the top row keys don't exist? or utilities and the elite skill?
>>740408679because you are the typical GW2 fanboy who cant admit anything is wrong with the game.
GW 1 had the combo daniel dociu and jeremy soule who are both masters at what they dothey don't have the talent anymorehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPQFx9ddqPE
>>740408861nice deflect, but you are literally making a claim that is bullshit.not only do you press up to 8 more buttons than you mentioned, but you also press dodge and jump whenever they are required (and yes, there are times when jumping is required in combat)
>>740408937for me it'shttps://youtu.be/cSw0CyFYV4Q
>>740408937Apparently Dociu is working on GW3, which is weird because nothing in the trailer indicates that
>>740394714are there any MMOs that run well in UE5? I think aion 2 is in UE5 but I haven't played it
>>740408401I think I have great taste personally. This is ugly. If I grew up with it I might feel differently but alas
>>740363965>prequel>fortnite art stylegrim
no charr? no tengu? no salad? no fucking buy
>>740410446Thats a bunch of players who chose to make their characters ugly with stupid hair, not a representation of the "game". The game is beautiful.
>>740410446Nta but I like that artstyle over another "realistic" UE style game
>>740384268this straight up looks like a still from a Highguard trailerle mao
>>740375574>This would get rid of most of the degenerates.An incredibly naive thing to say.
>>740410949fuck me, this looks absolutely amazing, simple asGW2 was always a palate cleanser for me when WoW started to feel too much, that engine is fucked beyond beliefhonestly heartbreaking they went with the >>740363965 Highguard art directiongame being a prequel isn't a good thing either i hate going "back"bears are cool althougheverbeit
>>740410446Anime haired Charr piss me off so much,literally the embodiment of modern fantasy fags who want to be quirkchungus furries going UwU and OwO unironically.It's only one step behind the second charr cancer, the snowwhite kitten face charr women. Just makes me want to forefire them
>>740411574Beyond acknowledging that the rendering in this initial trailer looked bad and voicing that concern I'm reserving total judgement on the visuals just yet. This game is at least 2 years away which means it has certainly not gone through the visual polish stage of development, as that is almost always one of the last things done in game development before release. Alpha footage looking jank has been a trend with this franchise as far back as GW1. Reading their blog posts and the website itself Im getting a feeling that this game is going to be more like a UE5 GW1 (as in skill collection, instanced open world, public player hubs) rather than something that invalidates GW2 anyway. They're saying they are going to support GW1, GW2, and GW3 concurrently so I think they might be ramping up towards an updated Hall of Monuments system to encourage a player ecosystem that can both play the version of GW they like most or if they REALLY like GW as an IP play all three and be rewarded for it in all 3 games.
>>740412131Nah bro the game has been in development for years by now. They got probably a whole bunch of armor, weapons, characters and cities done. The beta starts in Fall 2027. The art style will stay the way it is now, meaning ugly as fuck and way way below the image I posted
I can't believe they thought this art style would be a good idea.
>>740412276Late 2027, almost a year and a half from right now, and that's the date for their first beta. This game is not coming out until sometime in 2028 at the earliest. I wasn't even suggesting an art style shift, I never mentioned art style in my post, I was talking about rendering, as in aspects like lighting and texture mapping, polish in those aspects have significant effects in modern game engines. That's why I'm reserving judgement. When it comes to characters I'm not going to be bothered if someone's avatar looks like a dork as long as I have the capacity to create a character I find appealing to me, that's how it is in literally every MMO since the move to 3D.
honestly even the guild wars alpha trailer had soulhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJn9GhF8TI0
>>740409975not reallyUE5 is already stutter slop in singleplayer games, now add 80 idiots spamming particles in one spot and you get a powerpointAion 2 looks decent in trailers but so did every korean MMO before release. wait until people are doing world bosses on midrange rigs and then you'll see the real game.
>>740412821Yeah but none of that matters. The art style is fundamentally just a lot worse, they just don't have any talent working on it. GW1 had an art style shift because it was a small project that could be mostly redone, and they did redo it when they go good artists like Kotaki working on it. For this game, the team is already complete and they're probably many years into development.
>>740410910Salads do not exist yet and ascalon is rightful human land, tengu might be in though
Worlo of Wawa wonnered again
>>740413298That's implying that you are even going to have 80 idiots spamming particles in the field. If they are working with UE5 and putting a focus on physics and momentum in movement from the language of "play solo or form a band of adventurers" makes me suspect they are returning to the GW1 format of public player lobbies in settlements, but instanced open world for just (you) and your party when you leave.
looks like 0/10 generic woke trash
>>740377207Blade n Soul was the only MMO that got me invested in the story.
ANY BIG BEAR BASTARD ONLINE?
>>740413403Ironically enough after sitting and looking at the GW1 alpha screenshot in a way the look of the dude in the GW3 teaser with his goofy giant pauldron in a way reminds me of it. Environment wise, I think its just suffering from default UE5 lighting and would expect that to be polished closer to release. As for the look of the characters, could just be a trailer made with earlier art assets, I find a sharp disconnect over how the dude was designed in the trailer compared to just the general style of armor you can see the races wear in the key art.
>>740387318>Uh-oh /v/, your narrative has collapsed and it turns out there are talented women in gamingdon't think that was ever an argument? /v/ loves Amy Hennig.
>>740372386GW2 class designs were peak.
>>740413970meh, I want Tengu than Kodans
>>740384268truth nukeim so fucking tired of this dogshit niggerslop
Things they need to bring back:Dervish class. Not a single GW2 class can fill its shoes.Urgoz/Deep and new “elite missions”. The only thing GW2 brought is a fractal with Kanaxai and a long Luxon themed meta map which nobody ever does besides one guild.Competitive missions. Not quite PvP, but not PvE either. I had countless hours in FA/JQ in GW1 and GW2 didn’t even try to introduce anything similar. The GW2 PvP sucks as well. There’s like 5 maps.Keep WvW though, they better not scrap that. >>740364024It’s just a cinematic based on an alpha.
we're so fucked
>>740415504>femcharr and femsura cucked to deathKEKAROO!
>>740393834yupthat's itand always has been it
>>740415504>all these neon fantasy weirdos>and then there's indiana joneshuh?
So long as half of the gaming community would rather eat shit if it means spiting "the chuds", things will never improve.
>>740415504>Paragon dervish bros...
>>740363965Add water color textures and effects and it will be fine
>>740416013That's a GW2 expansion picture
>>740363965You know what, if pandering to fags and trannies with GW3 is what it takes to fund more development for GW1, so be it. I'm happy to keep playing GW1.
https://www.twitch.tv/guildwars2STREAMING HERE (ASSUMABLY) IN TEN MINUTESGET IN EARLY
>>740415856Indiana Jone get a Skritt slut as part of their kit
>>740416538damn
>Norn axedIt's so over.
>>740375278>XIV has a good stLMAO.
>>740416217NVM IM RETARDEDHERE IT IShttps://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/future-of-the-guild-wars-franchise/
>>740397025they're gonna bust out some retarded statement like "actually the asura only went underground 950 years ago so it's all good!"
>>740363965>sexy bear raceI'll be fine.
>>740416836what's the lmao about?
>>740416987DOOMERS BTFO
>>740416987Holy BASED, GW1chads we won
>>740363965reminds me of dauntless
>>740417783>GW1 is back to life and seeing new updates>GW2 is getting time to update its older content which was sorely needed and will still get new updates>GW3 will get to exist as it's own thing, and not a replacement to GW1 or 2Genuinely the best way to go about it, kudos to Anet for being open about the mistake of dropping support for GW1 instead of building infrastructure for both GW1 and 2 support. Always respect the level of ambition the studio has.
I'm afraid to sell anything because of HoM
>>740418089why? hom is solved, you already know exactly what to get
>>740416208Youre like the people who keep playing poe1 over poe2. Misguided.
>>740418089they said the HoM achievements aren't in the game and will be added one expansion at a time, starting with core, so it'll assumably just be "season of dragons" tier shit, not hardcore stuff like in gw1
>>740418384guide my dick in youre mouth
>>740418159>>740418690oh, shame I was ready to make a ton of gold off of noobs
>>740363965Imagine caring about guild slop in the year 2026 of our lord
>>740418384NTA but I play PoE 1 over 2. It's just a better polished game.
>>740363965>niggerNot playing that
>>740418912The OG one is still a golden classic. And an active one. So ofcourse people care.
>>740365114I have like 3k hoursThis shit looks like ass and I was really looking forward to it since I basically did everything and got bored of gw2
