Why was Metroid Other M so hated?
Because it's very, very bad.
>>740378768>why people no like bad game?
>>740378768Because it's shit and made Samus a pussy
>>740378768Shit localization.
OTHER M ROCKS!
>>740378768Because it sucks.Are you asking as a rhetorical question to start a thread, as someone who has played it and wants to know the complaints, or someone who hasn't played it and is considering giving it money? Because overall, the game is pretty bad. Even the good parts of the game (there are some) really don't make up for how awful the rest is, and how bad the whole package ends up as a result.
I enjoyed it on release solely because I was extremely sleep-deprived at the time and my cognitive abilities had dulled just enough to find the dodge-shoot-dodge-shoot-dodge-shoot combat flow entertaining, as well as to not put any actual thought toward the events of the plot going on.
>>740378768Horrible story that was character assassination for everyone involved Mediocre gameplayHorrendous wiimote only controls for a 3D action adventure
>>740378768Because westerners don't want women to be women.
>Start Other M>First title screen>Press start>10 minute intro>THE BABY is said 11 times>2nd title screenAnd it doesn't get better.
>>740378768the only good thing about this game is the controls. objectively bad;>plot holes>retcons >nonsensical fanservice>no self inclined actions>tropes but badly done>forced detailing when time-wise, it has been made incorrect>entire game is one long hallway>symbolism is one note but repeated every chance it gets, even outside of the game itselfsubjectively bad;>cannon breaking>bad acting>bad gameplay>bad music>bad dialogue writing>forced conveyed concepts that exist already in better scenarios and timeline of events>awful enemy design>awful characters>framerate instability>released when people were asking about dread for 10 years>wtf is that gravity "suit"?>phantoon in a different part of the galaxy for no reason>M:OM GET IT?!?
Insane how people shit on Other M yet I never see any slander for picrel. Metroid Infection fucking sucked yet nobody brings it up. WTF???
>>740378768No idea, I loved it personally
>>740379025How? She's literally the same as she is in all the other Metroids
>>740381905>the only good thing about this game is the controls.lol no. you beat basically all the fights by mashing D-Pad directions for the auto-dodge and insta-charge shot, and having to point at the screen for stationary FPS mode in order to fire missiles - or solve those "spot the stray pixel" sections of the story - were awful.
>>740382871>this random shitty looking fangame also sucks>why doesn't everybody talk about this shitty looking fangameProbably because nobody has heard about it, and probably because anybody who did just thought it sucked and so didn't share it with people and warned people against it when it was mentioned. Are you really surprised that more people have played M:OM, a Metroid game on one of Nintendo's most popular systems, as opposed to a shit Flash game that couldn't even find its way onto Newgrounds?
>>740378768Pretty much everything about the game is mediocre to awful.I'd say it looked decent for a wii game except all the glow effects ruin that too.
>>740378768Because retards had a head canon that didn't fit with what the game was doing.
>>740378768Why shouldn't it be?
>>740383274I've said this for years but Other M has 2 good qualities - being a 3D Metroid with shinesparking in it, and making power bombs feel extremely powerful. That's it.
>>740378846It's not. It's pretty good.
>>740383214>>random shitty looking fangame dude Infection was on the Wii, you can't gaslight me I played that shit firsthand
>>740383921>Other M in the same tier as Prime 2>Prime 3 and Fusion above Prime 2
>>740384073Prime 2 ammo system and Light/Dark world were really annoying to play through. I played 1 Remaster,2,3,Other M, Hunters last year to prep for 4, and I realized that while it was a fun time, those elements really annoyed me. Loved the bosses stealing your abilities though.
>>740378768It made Samus just kind of suck as a person and the gameplay was naff. They made a 3rd person 3D action game playable only with the D-pad, what the fuck were they thinking?
>>740383093When not ridley comes back she freezes with childhood trauma. Maybe I'm a secondary since I haven't played every single metroid game though so perhaps it happens elsewhere.
>>740384257It was made by the Devil May Cry team. It was a DMC game with a Metroid skin. Pretty different game in general. But it was a fun time.
>>740384204I do think the dark world is rough at first, but once you get the Dark Suit it's fine. The ammo system is stupid, but I never really took offense to it or anything. I'm honestly more offput by Prime 1's special beam weapons like the flamethrower and all that, I think those are worse but also ignorable.
>>740383128DUDE GREEN BLOOD ON GREEN GRASS LMAO
>>740384319Team Ninja did nothing wrong, they did what they were hired to do. It's all Sakamoto's pants-on-head directorial choices that killed the game.
The only bad thing was tying such an important function like shooting missiles to a pain in the ass wii mote fps aiming. Everything else was fine. If I wanted Prime aiming I would play Prime.
>>740378768Is this game about Samus having a still birth? What is up with all the baby imagery?
>>740384598And Samus' characterization/monologues, and the concentration mechanic trivializing combat, and being able to dodge by merely hoverhanding the d-pad, and structuring the game to effectively be Fusion but worse, and basically there's something wrong with the game almost every moment it's running.
>>740384794The Alien franchise is a significant influence on Metroid, and that shit goes pretty deep into themes of motherhood.
>fought ridley a good 3-4 times by now>nows the perfect time to make her freeze up due to trauma
Because it was shit. Next question.
>>740378768it's like a bad western movie
>>740385061she had a woman moment xDdd
I played other M back in the day ironically and actually enjoyed it. I was playing a lot of supposedly bad games back then like kane and Lynch. But I kind of liked other m and thought it got unfairly made fun of. I enjoyed it way more than any ass creed game. If it didn't have the metroid name and was a new Sony IP or something it'd have 5 sequels by now and be a staple like zero dawn horizon
Because kids who grew up with Prime as their first FPS were upset that it wasn't Prime. Was it a good game? No. Was it a better take on 3D Metroid than Prime? Yes.
>>740386209>a staple like zero dawn horizonSomehow this is the most offensive part of your post.
>>740386265In theory, in is. In practice, Sakamoto went full retard and did literally everything he could to sabotage his own game. I still think if you replaced everything obviously wrong with Other M with common sense solutions (example: USE THE FUCKING CONTROL STICK TO MOVE IN A 3D GAME FUCK) then it'd be a genuinely solid Metroid game.
>>740386301I honestly can't remember the actual name of that stupid franchise
>>740383214It's porn.
>>740386265>kids who grew up with Prime as their first FPSI feel like the implication is that they wouldn't have a reference point for what makes a good game but even sticking to the FPS genre TimeSplitters 2 came out on GC the same year as Prime 1. Everyone who had a GC also had a GBA so they'd have Fusion and Zero Mission to compare Other M to.
>>740387639Nintendo fans wouldn't touch a game from another developer. All other FPS games on the GC were massively hampered by the awful C-stick, which was never intended to be used as anything other than quick adjustment, which is why Prime's control scheme was such a fucking trainwreck.
>>740378768Shitty story that constantly contradicts the other games, presents Samus as a whiny crybaby with an electra complex, portrays Addam like a petty retard who died for no good reason, surrounds Samus with idiot annoying characters and makes her monologue endlessly.The gameplay is mid as fuck, it plays nothing like Metroid, the gun auto-aims and Samus can insta-dodge making the game piss easy, the map design is extremely linear and funnely.The visuals are boring and uninspired, essentially just the more normal-looking half of Fusion, the suit design is ugly as shit and the federation soldiers went form the strong, heavy design of the Prime series to shitty scuba diving suits.The music is ass too, not a single memorable tune.
>>740387852>Nintendo fans wouldn't touch a game from another developer.Prime was Retro. Other M was Team Ninja.
>>740388234They saw "metroid" on the box and didn't notice.
>>740384314You haven't even played Other M, have you? You're just regurgitating the opinions of Youtubers
>>740378768Because the story is more hole than plot.
>>740384794Samus nuked all the metroids in Metroid II, but saved one baby metroid which imprinted on her at the end of the game. That metroid ended up being the giant metroid in Super Metroid (the sequel), where it got used as a genetic test sample and eventually sacrificed itself to save Samus's life.So it does make some sense that Samus would be shaken up over the whole thing. The problem is that it's handled poorly. Just endlessly repeating "The Baby The Baby The Baby" to herself makes her sound psychotic and unhinged, which really wasn't the idea that M:OM was going for.
>>740388709Samus spared the Metroid but immediately flew that shit to Ceres and aurrendered it to a Federation lab, the whole baby thing is Other M nonsense, she didn't even refer to it as a baby prior to that game, it was always called the infant, Other M tried to fabricate a sentiment that was never there to begin with.
>>740384314It does not happen elsewhere.And the only piece of Metroid media that supports the trauma theory at all is the tie-in manga series published seven years prior, and that was never officially translated.
>>740388373>They saw "metroid" on the boxThat doesn't explain RE4 going gangbusters to the degree that Capcom soured relations with Mikami to secure PS2 sales.
>>740378768my issue is the pacing and not being able to skip cutscenes on later playthroughs, otherwise I like the 2d with point and shoot gimmick
>>740388964By the time RE4 came out you could literally buy a gamecube for under 100 bucks. Everyone had one as a second console, I'm talking about Nintendo fans.
>>740384314Nope, just Other M.Moreover Other M is set near the very end of the timeline eith only Fusion and Dread after it, all other games (Zero Mission, Prime, Echoes, Corruption, Beyond, Samus Returns and Super) are set before Other M and Samus fights Ridley 6 times (Ridley and Mecha Ridley in ZM, Meta Ridley in Prime, Omega Ridley in Corruption, Neo Ridley in SR and Reborn Ridley in Super), so by that point she should not be having random bouts of PTSD bout it.Plus, the placement of Other M in the timeline is further problematic due to the fact that it makes Samus seem like a retard in Fusion when she trusts the Federation again and is surprised to find yet more Metroids im the BSL.
dobson was right. other m was good, prime 4 sucked
>>740382871>>740383959This isn't a real game wtf are u on
>>740389341Prime 4 sucking does not absolve Other M of its sins. They both suck.
>>740383128Don't forget the Queen Metroid fight where you spend an hour dodging and shooting and then get randomly thrown into a qte where you have to use the power bomb in the thing's throat even though the game never told you the power bombs had become authorized so you just have to know and do it or get insta-killed and start the fight from the start.
>>740389319>Everyone had one as a second consoleThen they wouldn't have bothered porting it to the PS2 and the PS2 port wouldn't have outsold even the Wii edition. That said I think it's kind of a moot point. You've started going on about "Nintendo fans" but who's more qualified to judge games from a Nintendo IP?
the baby
>Never beat this game as a kid>Got stuck on the monster spawning infinite metroids>Found out it's from Metroid 2 >It was one of the last bosses in other m and I gave up and never finished the gameC'est la vie. Also anyone that ever mentions the personality blackhole that is samus's character is a retard
>>740378768Bad gameplay, bad story, bad controls. Federation Force, Samus Returns, and Prime 4 also being bad will never vindicate Other M in any shape or form.Perhaps the funniest thing is that Hard mode removes all the collectible items but then removes the one postgame boss.