Is Virtua Fighter bland?Is VF6 going to save the franchise?
Tokon is all that matters.
Peak "Read the extra source material to understand" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIjRQaFgN00
>>740410924>Is Virtua Fighter bland?Yes>Is VF6 going to save the franchise?No
>>740410924VFC looks so good. VFC saved the FGC.
>>740410924
>>740411065>Dust stepping>Rangi>Kelsang>YunDamn they really doing like Blazblue with Naoto.
>>740410924>summer gay fest happens>thread turns into complete shit why
Can you feel, no matter where you are.
>Max gets Avatar exclusive gameplay >Max gets Tifa exclusive gameplay>Max gets a literal japanese man to come to his home and shill Final Fantasy 7 exclusive gameplayHow do the boomers feels, the ones who had their moms and dads telling them to stop playing video games and get a real job while Max is out here living the ultimate gamer dream?
>>740411310Cute
>>740410924>Is Virtua Fighter bland?I can't think of a more boring fighting franchise.>Is VF6 going to save the franchiseProbably not. The story mode might bring some people in, but after that people are going to drop it.
reminder to just play games you find fun and don't worry what twitter or duh effgeecee thinks
>>740411320Even if you're on a distant starIt'll reach you without failWake you upNo matter who you areOur spirit will not fadeWashing away the sand in your heartWOOOOAAAAAAAAHHH
>>740411341>poor brown one is crying about max try to improve your english first
>>740411516TrueFuck the FGC
>>740410924>Is Virtua Fighter bland?A bit, but I don't care cause it has a luchador and that's good enough for me.>Is VF6 going to save the franchise?I hope so, timing is pretty good, I just wish we'd see more gameplay. I get they have to appeal to casuals but I really just don't give a fuck about the story. These things are just never good.
>>740411516It's just not the same when the choked one doesn't piss herself.
>>740411516but what if you don't find any games to be fun? what if all you do is doom about all the games?!?!?!? SF6? doomVF6? we never play VF but doomStrive? Doom. I never played the older games but I doomGranblue? I don't know I just doom. I don't know why anyone hate it. Why do you hate granblue? asking for a friend. I have not played a fighting game in about 6 months. I come here to doom with the bros because it's fun. But I don't really know much about fighting games lol
>>740410924Did they actually show anything that looked fun? The single player looks like an MK movie game with brawler fights thrown in. Others are assuming its a yakuza or Shenmue style game but I've seen no evidence of that.Im also kind of worried about the actual fighting game aspect of it because they spent so much time emphasising simplification and being casual friendly, this has literally never worked out for anyone who didn't create an entirely new genre with casualisation in mind from the start.
I know some of you are in the guest character fatigue but 57 year old Ryo Hazuki when
>>740410987Based.
>>740411227>Vs.jesus fucking christ this picture is old as fuck, i'm even surprised this fucking game is mentioned
>>740411908>Others are assuming its a yakuza or Shenmue style gameIt's because they also showed off that you can just run around the city and explore shit, people are assuming considering the devs, that there will be things like minigames scattered around the place.And I do think that's the best way to go about it, just distract people away from remembering that VF6 is a fighting game and it'll probably sell well.
>>740412035At this point Ryo is not guest character. Imagine being like Nash, Leona, and Heidern are guest characters
All of you should be housewives by now, why is there so much christmas cake in here?
>>740412317>just distract people away from remembering that VF6 is a fighting game and it'll probably sell wellIt's funny that whenever the question of how to make a fighting game sell is brought up, the answer is almost always some variation of "Make the fighting game less of a fighting game."Makes you wonder why games in this genre keep getting made when it's public knowledge that fighters are so niche and disliked by most of the population.
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I like how corny the story looks, the new character designs could be more iconic though
>>740412901there is nothing wrong with RGG you should try playing single player games for once. The Yukaza series is great if you're not brown
>>740412901>the new character designs could be more iconicSounds like they fit right in with the other VF characters.
>Am I in a nightmare? Code Veronica? TUPAC?!? LMAO yooo Aris got my chest slayed over here
>>740412317>It's because they also showed off that you can just run around the city and explore shitdid they? The only gameplay i saw outside of combat was what looked like very scripted action chase sequences
I have single player focus in fighting games fatigue
I have waste of resources fatigue
>>740412835Fighters are niche because there's fuck all value for money and poor player onboarding but there's immense potential and history as a mainstream genre. They just haven't evolved enough since the arcade era.This is the way games used to function, halo existed as both a single player game and a heavy multiplayer experience, they captured a mass audience in a way marathon as a multiplayer only gaas flop cant. There's no reason you cant have a 3d fighter that is both a good single player experience with souls tier boss fights and exploration while also having a multiplayer VS mode for fighting game fans that uses the same core mechanics. Good single player action games are often fighting game like in their combat style.
>>740413637>Fighters are nichewhat the fuck this dude talkin bout lmaoSaudi giving us SUPER EVOSfighting games make more money than ever before causing everyone to bring back their fighting game IP all we're missing is Konami you dirtnigger
Crossroads looks like what we got during the 5-6th gen golden age out of the genre instead of only training mode + shitty ranked grind since sf4 that the fgc nignogs defend to death.
any other fighting game dev would have given bosch away as a free bonus characteronly capcom is jewish enough to charge people for reused assets from world tour kek
>>740411516>reminder to just play games you find funYou know that you need players to play against in a fighting game, right?Everyone hitched their wagon to Duty Fighter 6 and it's ruined the entire scene.
>>740412835>"Make the fighting game less of a fighting game."Modern fighting games had less content than 6th gen ones until recently
>>740413637>There's no reason you cant have a 3d fighter that is both a good single player experience with souls tier boss fights and exploration while also having a multiplayer VS mode for fighting game fansThe only thing you get with these hybrid fighters is two undercooked halves. It won't be as good as other dedicated action games and won't be as good as other dedicated fighters when the focus is so split.
>>740410924Yes.No.>>740410987Avatar Legends is all that matters.
Virtua Fighter's story mode seems legit good on its own. World Tour with effort
>>740410924Sega needs to have Japanese pros shilling the game if they want to save the franchise. It's what worked for Capcom
>>740410987HulkCHAD.....I kneel.
>>740414003You just need 1 other guy to play fighting games.
>>740414303...of similar skill level, who lives in your region, and wants to play with you
>>740414178Nobody cool likes AvatarI’m seriousThe people that like Avatar are cringe and worse than shounentardsThey’re in the same camp as the isekai fansJust lame, truly truly lame
>>740414021Tekken 5Soul Edge to Soul Calibur 3Every Smash except 64 and 4 maybeBlazblue entire IP
Every fighting games now focus on both singleplayer and multiplayer. Well maybe 2xko since they focus on multiplayer.
>>740413937>he buys male charactersTroon
why is the fg internet acting like a story mode in a fighting game is some crazy cool thing? show me how it maintains 60fps and what the rps is like for whatever weird gimmick meter system they made for the game. playing shenmue with an arcade stick is not fun. world tour is for weirdos, go play cyberpunk or something geeze
this week I made a handful of player ragequit on fightcade. I guess I am getting decent at SF3. I still get 10 x 0 by actual good players though, especially if they use certain characters.I hope the new avatar fighting game is good.
>>740414208>Sega needs to have Japanese pros shilling the gameMore like get japanese vtubers and their simps hopping on it as dating app just how sf6 managed to copy that from valorant.
>>740414364>..of similar skill level, Fair enough but doable.>who lives in your region, This ain't 09 anymore.>and wants to play with youJust behave normal.Which game do you want to play?
>>740414514The vtubers came in part because the SFV pros kept shilling for the game and mentored said vtubers
>>7404144232xko is a game that was 10 years in dev so it makes a lot of sense why the focus is so outdated.
>>740414460You sound like a tranny
>>740410924of their four new main characters, they picked the worst to be the new face of the series
>>740414393I don't care about the show or the source material.The fighting game is all that matters and it is looking better than everything else at the market right now.
>>740414571>This ain't 09 anymore.Try playing USF4 in America with someone from Europe. Or father. It SUCKS. Hell, even coast-to-coast sucks.
>>740414661He gets more pussy than (You), even his best friend's sister wants the dick
>>740414661who likes cielo?
>>740414639I have grown immune to being called a tranny on chan. virtua fighter will have poor sales because no one buys a fighting game to play shenmue.
>>740414698They never patched rollback into it?
>>740414879No. They never fixed SFV's netcode either.
>>740414661Knowing myself I will be gravitating towards the boss character no matter how overcomplicated and gimmicky they are.
>>740414460>>740414873Sorry that you will never get a multiplayer only fighting game anymore.
>>740410924DOA7 got announced so people can stop pretending they like VF
>>740410924>Is Virtua Fighter bland?Always wasIs VF6 going to save the franchise?Probably. Its definitely a step to the right direction for the franchise
>>740414759>that part of the trailer where he reacts to the animated attacks of the old cast graffitiPure kino, even if it is boomerpandering.>>740414898Goddamn capcom man. But not surprising considering how fas and hard sf4 got dropped by the entire fgc to shill duty fighter 5.
>>740414979There's this red flag called DOA6LR
Is it even possible to enjoy more than one game at a time, I'm only playing Granblue but I have been considering buying SF6 and the new (old) DoA 6.
>>740414970or I just delete world tour and save space on my ssd and simply do not buy virtua fighter because shenmue was fun for exactly three hours in 2007
>>740414759me
>>740415063I have no problems playing Strive, KOFXV, SF6, BBCF and +R back to back.
>>740415151>or I just delete world tour and save space on my ssdThen Sega should give the option to delete the story mode.
>>740415063lol you boomers are pathetic bitches
>>740415063how many hours you have in grubble? how did you not get bored of it
>>740415063Having a maingame or two is natural but you seriously get more enjoyment out of the genre if you play variety. You will also see your main game in a new light from playing other games.
>>740413723>saudis pissing money down the toiletyeah, the sky is blue, this indicates nothing. Every major fighting game IP is selling below where it used to when they were a mainstream genre. Have you been in a coma for the last 20 years of casualisation in a desperate attempt to recapture the mainstream?
>>740414759paraguayanon here, well aware of bias I am hopeful, but dear lord, those two hair twists are terrible. If Cielo curses in Guarani and drinks some tereré, I'm all set.
>____ will save fighting games>I'm going to get into fighting games when _____ comes out!No. Play +R.
>>740415063Yes and even better? I'm enjoying Strive, Granblue and BBCF just fine.
>>740415339I have been saying this for years bug our cavemen boomers just stick to one game and all other games just suck ass.
>>740415307honestly vf6 looks like the whole game is the story mode and the actual game looks more like a def jam arena fighter
>>740414021I dont think its ever been attempted before. You cant just take street fighter or tekken and glue another minigame onto it. You have to develop the game with both in mind from the start. Usually the VS modes are subordinate to the singleplayer though and im not sure VF can take that risk. There's no general rule or game design conflict that prevents you distilling what is fun in a multiplayer fighting match and placing fragments of it into a single player boss.FROM is the closest to cracking that problem, I can totally see them making the most popular 3d fighting game of a future era if it was taken seriously and attached to one of their single player games.
>>740415519based
>>740414208pros were a part of it, the main thing is they were hanging out with and training Vtubers.
>>740415329Only around 40 hours, I wanted to get into the genre after decades of not playing any fighting games.
>>740415660>Singleplayer only fighting game????? They gonna have multiplayer.
>>740414460Its not pitched as just a story attachment, they are acting like its a yakuza game with fighting game combat depth. This hasn't been tried since Shenmue and even that was some half hearted basterdised version of VF crammed into another game.
>>740415834cool. I’d like if they showed said multiplayer in their presentation of their fighting game; a genre well known for their multiplayer mechanics cool cgi was cool in 2001 when they made final fantasy spirits within. we collectively as a species have moved on. because it looks more like def jam than anything else and if you disagree, wouldn’t it be great if they showed how the game actually works as a game? or are polygons in a shenmue commercial enough for (You)?
>>740415613WTF are these upper body proportions? Capcom still can't into 3d fighter models. At least the absurdly huge hands and feet were gone the instant they kicked that gay bara clown Oro out.
remember, it could always be worse
>>740415932I really don’t give a shit about learning which moves have hit advantage when fighting random npc bots though
>>740415712>You cant just take tekken and glue another minigame onto it.
>>740414021Usually you're right, but to me in this case it's different. The single player is being done by the Yakuza studio with a lot of big name writers. Sega had Shenmue, a single player franchise with VF-like gameplay, proving that the formula can work. It seems like they're focusing hard on the single player. For the fighting game part, they're doing experiments with VF5. Like adjusting the netcode, or removing joystick mashing in the latest patch. They're also hiring people from the FGC, I have no real source but I vaguely remember Juicebox quickly letting slip on stream that he was in contact with Sega giving gameplay advice for VF6.
>>740416018>I’d like if they showed said multiplayer in their presentation of their fighting game;https://youtu.be/AyxSIdfI4fQ?si=hphK2Fy3LDEyNM20&t=1242
>>740416018They kinda already did but not muchhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HwrVtTwtcI
>>740416018>cool. I’d like if they showed said multiplayer in their presentation of their fighting game; a genre well known for their multiplayer mechanicsIf you're talking about SGF, almost no game showed gameplay there. But they ended their presentation announcing another presentation which two other anons already linked, maybe you missed that.
>>740415712>You cant just take street fighter or tekken and glue another minigame onto it.So you never played Alpha 3 or Tekken 3-5.
>>740416114NOOOOOO YOU CAN'T LEARN BASIC STUFF IN SINGLE PLAYER WHILE YOU HAVE FUNYOU NEED TO PLAY 8 HOURS OF TRAINING MODE AND THEN HIT RANKED
>>740416282okay. I concede my point. that looks like virtua fighter.
>>740416114lucky for you both VF and every action game ever is just some form of rock paper scissors and every difficult action game is just repetition which is identical to learning timing and advantage.
>>740416457im talking about a full single player campaign with gameplay depth you would expect from one, not a literal minigame.
>>740411310I miss blazblue. We've already had a decade of guilty gear.
>>740416282>>740416290>barely two minutes of talking about the fighting in their fighting gameI'm gonna guess that the gameplay sucks ass now and they're really pushing the story mode as a kind of smokescreen to get people to buy it.
>>740410924no, this is what faggots who never played the games think because they're not familiar with the characters >Is VF6 going to save the franchise?if it was well-written (nothing in the 8 minutes of story trailer was) and the new characters weren't fugly it would havelet's be real, none of the performative "omg so heccin diverse such a bold choice I never played a fighting game but I'm here for it!" faggots will buy it because when you close the twitter tab and the lights are off, nobody wants to pay full price for a game with an ugly seanigger on the cover but making posts online is freemarketers knew ages ago you need someone attractive on the cover and people hated them for it, but it's true and will always be
SF6 is one of the most unpleasant fighting games I've ever played. Not fun at all.
>>740416562I was mad at no gameplay too watching the video just earlier but thankfully they cramped some at the end. Not much shown but I do like them changing blocking animations to be more dynamic.
>>740414661for me its her
>>740416717Break and Rush is limb break mechanic. You know the glowing red effects on the trailers? When you got those on one limb you lose a part of your body means less health and locks some of your moveset. It's not confirmed yet it's a permanent thing or if you can recover your limbs though. The blue effects when defending? It's flow guard and well lets just say it's different than regular guard.
I don't see this VF6 doing that well. It'll survive which would be good enough. No one really gives a fuck about the characters or plot though and these character design aren't that interesting. Wolf is the only one who stands out atm.
>>740416963Is it a woman? Very androgynous.>no gloveWait it's not the big ring boss?
>>740416760I think it's close to being very fun but the way oki and system mechanics are structured just sap all possible fun out of the game
>>740417087Street Fighter never adapting oki options into the series really makes it so unfun. Needs rolls, quick standup and such.
>>740417063>No one really gives a fuck about the characters or plot thoughtbf the plot seems to have nothing to do with the older VF characters and is primarily focused on the 4 newfags in the cast. So they can just tell an original story from there and hopefully get some people interested in them (ft. some boring guys and gals from that Virtua Fighter game).
>>740417368It's a good move. VF's biggest bane was always the relative boring cast.
>>740416760Drive makes every character feel the same and every match play the same
>>740416671Blazblue didn’t go anywhere. And that’s exactly because guilty gear took the bullet for it. Be happy.
>>740417063>>740417368I think the devil are very aware that nobody gives a shit about VF characters considering there was a joke in of the cutscenes where literally nobody knew who Pai Chan was except the fatass.SF would never make a joke about Chun-li being a literal who for example, but you can do that with VF cast members.
>>740417671>devil*devs
>>740417762>she’s legal in dog years
>>740417368>tbf the plot seems to have nothing to do with the older VF characters and is primarily focused on the 4 newfags in the cast....which are even blander and less memorable than the old characters seriousl, why are there so many people praising the move because "the old cast was lame >:(" as if these new guys aren't even worse? it legitimately would have been easier to "fix" the old cast than to try and sell people on fucking cielo
>>740417368>>740417671>Everyone agrees that most VF characters are lame and forgettable>Even the devs are poking fun at how they're all unknowns>Story mode has nothing to do with the old characters because they're not interesting>Please buy our game anyways>In a genre where games live or die depending on how interesting the cast isWhy am I supposed to be excited for this game again? A story mode about some literal who new characters?
I don't play fighting games but VFC looks cool. I prefer a more realistic fighter without any bullshit special powers. Might give it a shot
blazblue shouldve been the one to get strivefied it was already baby surface level franchise for casuals and i wanted to see bullet and litchi and mai in 3d
>>740418108No you see when devs insult the existing fans and change the game for the modern audience it's a massive red flag and cringBut when I'M the modern audience and it's a game I never cared about, it's actually based and the right call
>>740418150for whatever reason it has a reputation for being hard as fuck and hyper complicated but its actually one of the easiest fighting games to get into. Its probably one of the better entry points next to SF
I actually think some of the characters are cool, just needed a rebrand in looks. Idk man, feels like they went the SF6 route and this Ciello dude is just meant to feel like Luke
>>740417560>>740417762>>740418148BuruRaji Sovl
>>740417667It's kind of funny how every fighting game series that Sony touches with exclusivity contract gets cursed.
>>740418080>>740418108You can have the boring new characters or the boring old characters.Pick your poison.
>>740417368The VF plot is just a generic>evil criminal organization wants to take over the world so they kidnap people and make experiments to create their super soldier cyborg DuralEvery character's motivation is like, two sentences at most. For a genre where the plot is an afterthought, it's even more for VF. Hell, the new VF5 re-release doesn't even have a plot as far as I know.>>740417459I will say though, that while the cast looks boring now, their simple designs combined with the low poly look made them stand out back then. Easy to differentiate and identify from a distance
>>740418108>it's a diapershitting banjofagFigures this poster was one of not sane mind.
>Oh yeah. That happened
>>740418193Whoa look at those pokies.
>>740418353I'd rather just play a different fighting game that has interesting characters bro
>>740410987>Tokon is all that matters.Here's your dr doom lil bro. Have fun with your Arc Sys tranny game. (literally looks worse than mvc 1 2 3 and even infinite)
>>740418193TOO HOLY
>>740418346i liked the old man drunken boxer
>>740418550>tranny art>tranny gameuh huh
the og main 4 (akira, jacky, sarah, and pai) are great and the story should have centered on them going on wacky 80s hongkong kungfu movie adventures like the animeno I don't CARE what you nigs say
>>740418513Wonder if they will be cameos too
>>740418108The gameplay?>just remembered that gameplay doesn't sell fighters anymoreNevermind, game is fucked.
>>740410987FPBP.
>16 characters for the new vfwhose being left behind?
>>740418550People who think GG looks cool are never gonna like VF's characters, they might even struggle to like Tekken characters. There's nothing Sega can do here. Regular people wearing regular clothes is never gonna look cool to people who want to play as the Badguy Bloodedge who is a bounty hunter and a dragon from the future but also the beast of calamity and a scientist and...
>>740410924Yes VF is bland.No VF6 won't save the franchise, because it can't solve the core problem of fighting games, zoomers hate to losing
>>740418346>feels like they went the SF6 route and this Ciello dude is just meant to feel like Luke100%ironic how they kept talking about "innovation" and "pushing forward" during the devstream but it feels derivative and behind the curve in most ways
>>740418346im sick of these tatted up street kid mma guys, they're lame as fuck. luke got better when he moved away from that in 6
>>740418346I think I could name 4 or 5 characters on that box, but I legit forget about everyone else.
>>740418819vanessa and eileen are out, unfortunately
>>740418560I'm really annoyed that this guy voiced Doom.
Boomers do not care for single player modes so why cry that the story is written around a new cast with old guest appearances?Plus They already showed they have more than just the cinematic shenmue mode. They mentioned themed battles before that very shortly.That's where you can put a lot of the old cast and add new ones over time.
>>740418550Unique characters with unique gameplay does matter
>>740418841They're fundamentally different games and styles to begin with. Why the heck would i think Virtua Fighter isn't cool? I fucking love a ton of games with a variety of different styles. Street Fighter, King of Fighters, Tekken and so on...
>>740418904nomma iz le new zing and you vill enjoy ze mma rep in all your old fightan franchises, it's mandatoryno refunds!
>>740418819>Stella replaces Sarah>Cielo replaces Vanessa>Generic Suit Girl replaces Eileen>Dr. Nigga replaces Jeffry>Both old men are dead and cut>Sumo man that nobody cares about gets cut
>>740418560>>740419028Use jap dub
I think they're gonna cut Jacky as well
Remember: NEVER listen to the FGC tards.They are a core reason fighting games went into a trashpile by demanding less game for more money.
The "Go Ahead! Knock yourself out!" guy will get cut? No way.
>>740419062VF's problem is that there are too many generic kung fu guys, so while I'm sure their martial arts styles are different in some way, they never actuallydo anything all that different outside of more extreme cases like the little luchador guy.
VF characters are boring, but they're still not as boring as Fatal Fury characters.
If the fat comic relief becomes a playable fighter it will be kino.
>>740418819kage was already on the pc screen so hes in
>>740419317what you niggers don't realize is that the reason those old fighting games had all that extra singleplayer filler was because they were ports of arcade games and they needed something to justify the greed of selling the same game again to the japs who had already played it in arcades or could play it at any time for a coinwesterners never knew this because they had no arcades, so they thought that gay extra shit was always there because devs are just so nice when home console became the main platform, you started seeing fighting games as they had always originally released
>>740419317funny that sfv was a fgc aimed fighting game and it almost killed sf again
>>740418819Confirmed:>Akira>Pai-Chan>Wolf>Kage (we could see a bit of his face in the showcase)>Jacky (saw him in the graffiti)>Jeffry (mentioned in a side quest during the showcase)>Cielo>Stella>New office girl>New black guyThat's already 10. I suspect Sarah is the new Dural and Stella is her replacement, Dural is probably gonna be a single player only boss and not count towards the 16. I suspect they're leaving behind:>Shun-Di (too old, new game seems to be after a timeskip, he would be dead)>Lau-Chan (same thing but worse since his whole lore was that he was dying)>Brad (I can see one of the newcomers being a proper kickboxing function instead of Brad who mixes in some boxing)>Vanessa (Cielo is already the MMA rep which is close enough to her style)>El Blaze (we already have a pro-wrestler, easy skip)>Lei-Fei (Lei's whole thing is chasing Lau, if Lau is not in the game he's an easy skip)Likely to come back>Goh (unique design both visually and in gameplay, works for the villains which makes it easy to integrate in the story)>Jean (popular, Goh's rival)Rest: don't know, but I think we can expect even more newcomers.
>>740420051Jeffry is probably an NPC.He'd be way too old to fight and he was just listed as a quest giver iirc.
>>740411520What kind of joke is our destiny?Having to fightto truly get each other?
>>740419539because of Sarah Bryan (Samus Aran) rule 34 porn, right?
>>740418108because literally everyone realized this decades ago but generic kung fu and martial arts is just fucking boring
>>740418819God damn could they be more generic looking? Not a hint of personality in any of them, no fucking wonder this series never took off, same goes with Fighting Vipers
>>740420709>generic kung fu and martial arts is just fucking boringThis is me with Dragonball Z
>>740418108You're supposed to be hyped for the new characters and their story.But they all look just as basic as the other VF characters so game isn't gonna do well.
>>740420998>no fucking wonder this series never took offIt did. It died with VF5 which released before SF4 and had no online, and then Sega just ignored it for around 20 years
>>740416963Same.Probably the J6 operative.
>>740412901The language really confuses me. Why go for an M rating in a fighting game if the actual game part doesn't call for it, like MK?
The thing with VF is that you don't want a bunch of old guys on the roster and then you are just Tekken.Akira, Pai, and Wolf are already pushing it.
>>740410924Virtua looks amazing
>>740414759>my ancestor :)
Wait, the Kuni patch dropped and everyone was on solid terms with the state if tekken. What the fuck happened why is everyone mad again?
>>740410924>cool looking new chars and Tifa for SF6>character from my favorite manga for Tekken 8>City of the Wolves is fun as fuck and Kenshiro SOON>Robo-Ky in Strive SOON>they're putting OUR HERO green goblin in TokonI fucking love fighting games anons
>>740421961>>cool looking new charsRetard
>>740418904Diego just has no personality of his own, he is Jann Lee but less interesting. Jann Lee's origin was "brawler who had a rough childhood but watched Bruce Lee movies and was inspired to become the best fighter". Diego is just "brawler". And it didn't help that he was stupidly overpowered and easy to play, low investment high reward character.
>>740421961the only cool things here is robo-ky, who will get a botched move set like 96% of the strive characters, and green gobby
>>740421337BECAUSE THE STORY IS DEEP AND MATURE DUDE WE HIRED WESTERNERS TO WRITE THE LEAD WRITER IS THE GHOST OF TSUSHIMA GUYDID U RIKE?
>>740421908new director left just as he was turning things aroundnobody knows wtf is going on behind the scenes
VF stuff they showed yesterday confirmed to me that I will like the game. VF always had the gameplay down and it played well, but there was no passion or appeal to the designs of anything. The story trailer looks like it solved that by basically making the setting into a martial arts/crime drama movie and it seems great.
>>740421337There's blood and people seem to be dying in the fights
every virtua fighter video shown before yesterday had me excitedthen they have to show absolutely fucking garbage mystery meat brown man running around in a gay faggot story mode that looked like shit that shows that instead of refining the game in the areas that matter sega has been wasting time making a worthless story mode basically guaranteeing the game is going to sucki am no longer interest in virtua fighter and wish it would have stayed dead
>>740421961Nice. Dont let the boomers drags you into their despair. Being excited about games is such a nice feeling
>>740422474>just consume product
>>740422392yes, the game will suck, but have you considered that line must go up?
>>740422049All I can see they gonna remove his burn meter although it would be cool if it's actually Robo Ky Isuka.
>>740420051I really don't want to believe they'd remove the big time player himself.
>>740421337They're aping Asian martial art films, and those tend to be ultra-violent, even without the gore, plus they're also dealing with mafia in the story, so we should also expect some references to drugs, alcohol, and prostitution.But yeah, the shift in tone is quite jarring considering the past entries' tone was extremely vanilla compared to its contemporaries like Tekken and SF. Even DOA was never this gritty.
>>740422560>all they are gonna do is remove 50% of the characteryeah i just said that
>>740422374In the short fight gameplay segment they also showed a closeup of the protagonist face losing a tooth during a face punch.
>>740422026I'm going to rock your shit with BREATHJEET and the cute filipina and theres nothing you can do about it
I just want the Sarah Bryant cosplaying as Samus SFM porn to return
I want to get into fightan but learning the hard way is frustrating. Is there any game that eases this a bit? It can be literally any aesthetic I don't care I just want to learn to beat people up.
>>740418819>vanessa is going to be replaced by this douchewhy
>>740419062the visual design of VF might be boring, but as far as gameplay goes they are top tier in how unique they are, in large part because their fighting style is actually based on real world martial arts instead of made up nonsense
>>740420051>>740422583brad and aoi will be replaced by their kid
Stop pretending like you give a damn about Virtua Fighter NOW!!!!! *cries* you never cared. Just like you never cared about Nep-chan!
>>740423640Street fighter 3 3rd strike. It has easy to understand mechanics and you can just play Ken and punch people and do fireball and dp. Don’t listen to any retard who tells you it’s only pros playing it because there’s a ton of beginners who haven’t played a fighting game before, I can tell from playing it myself. You tap forward to parry high and mid attacks and you tap down to parry lows. That’s the extent of the system mechanics.
>>740421961i agree with everything aside from the first point. tifa is cool but we really didn't need 3 new characters. sf has around 60+ usable characters to use.
>>740422583>new black guy has one of those muay thai armbandsthe brad show is over
>>740423880*rubs sweaty penis over your forehead*It's ok cutie don't cry.
>>740410924>>740412901>>740417368>Virtua's Fighter biggest innovation is just copying SF6's story mode down to the dogshit rap and boring ghetto looking charactersUnironically bringing back Yu Suzuki's boomer obsession with rural China would've been way better than this shit.
>>740416717This. I have anti hype with how much pussyfooting they've done with the fighting game part of a fighting game that I've lost any interest I might have had with this piece of shit.
>>740422037is jann lee the only bruce lee clone that's actually acknowledged to be a bruce lee clone in-universe? it's so funny to me that law looks and fights identical to him but it's never commented on, he's just a chef
>>740423880We need a Neptunia fighting game. And a Disgaea fighting game. And a Senran Kagura fighting game.
>>740424025This is literally china town.You don't play games so at least pretend you watched the trailer.
I don't think Virtua Fighter is a good name. Back in late 90s, when it was made, 3D graphics were the how new thing, so it made sense that Sega would want to advertise that. Since 3D graphics have been the standard for decades now, the name just sounds archaic. The average normie is going to think it is a related to VR or is a weird Street Fighter clone.
>>740423939He looks unironically badass. why can't the burgers make good designed niggas
>>740424048Law is one of the actual clones of Bruce Lee. He's a sleeper agent or something.
>>740424048Fei Long is even more of a clone, he's a HK movie star in-canon
why is it so hard to make a compelling native american fighting game character, has anyone succeeded
>>740424168That would be like saying "I don't like the name of [insert your big brand here]. [Big Brand] should change the name, forget legacy, just change it!"
>>740424352T hawk is kinda cool. That’s about as far as you can go without making the concept weird
>>740424328Since his SF2 ending implies the real Bruce Lee does exist, that just makes Fei Long kind of morbid
>>740424090>"Bro if you don't praise this shit then you don't play video games"lol. also rural china is not china town.>>740424352There are five characters in the pic you posted.
>>740424352Julias ass was fat but her roots on the level of a 20€ fashing custom for carnival.
>>740424352Wolf is fucking awesome.>WRESTLING IS THE ULTIMATE SPORT>AWOOOOOOOOOOO
>>740424201The West used to make them badass too, look at Blade. Now they're just tools to push diversity quotas.
>>740424352leaning too much into stereotypes unironically, like they don't need to be wearing denim and feathers and using tomahawks. make a weeb indian character or something
>>740424352Thunder is cool in game but never looks it in still images
>>740424352>Rick Strowd>T-Hawk>Julia Chang>Nightwolf>Not cool or compellingDumb faggot
>>740424526julia's a good example of indian characters not really working out, she's been around forever but she just never really stuck and made an impact. they've tried to rework her but that didn't work either, what can they do at this point?
>>740424743>but she just never really stuck and made an impactgenuinely who care nigger? do you want endless 3d porn of her to say she made an impact?
>>740424542No, the west makes them and everyone else look and dress like fucking nerds. they walk and talk like fucking nerds too. And they always are nostalgic about some shit like Sony CD Players from the 90s. It's the same shit over and over. They make a Black Spider Man and he's just a black nerd, not a nigga from the streets. Blade walked and talked like a nigga from the streets (plus I mean.. it was wesley fucking snipes). That's the difference
>>740410924I sont care what nobody says. That VF6 trailer was the highlight of that gayman slopfest.
>>740424429Other fighting games (Street Fighter, Tekken, Dead or Alive) don't have names that are not era specific.Super Mario 64 is an N64 game with an era specific name but that's fine because it's only one entry in a larger series. Imagine if Nintendo made a series with 64 in the title, and kept it like that for a Gamecube or Wii sequel. That's what VF is like.
so is she sarah's daughter or a clone or what
>>740421961>no mention of VFi, too, hate fighting games and only care about posing online
>>740424853i'd like to play her in tekken 8 which is looking unlikely
>>740424853Well, I wouldn't say no to it.
>>740424998No info yet but she's more likely to be Sarah's daughter.
>>740412146here's another oldie for you, complete with a thrice forgotten meme template
>>740424352wolf, fatal fury boxer and thunder (original not xbox) are incredible.I remember the MK3 one transforming?
>>740424976You're creating a issue that has never ever been a thing and you are the one and only person on this planet that has an issue with it. You're not going to groom me into agreeing with you because the name has a legacy that means a lot since most people who give a damn about VF grew up along side the series. And that goes for brand recognition in general, not just VF. I don't know what dumb shit you'll say next but I don't give a shit. VF is VF and it will remain VF forever unless you buy up sega stocks and demand them to change the name
>>740415465That's the most media exposure your country got since the 1864 war.>>740424352They're fine but people just don't care about natives anymore kinda like they stopped caring about monster characters (like Blanka).
>>740425213>KOF FOBWhat
In my opinion, jews are shifty
>>740418819They better bring back drunken fist.
Sexy.
>>740422560My hot take is if he's Robo Ky Mk2 (which I think it is), he's gonna be able to copy his opponent's movesSo kind of like SFV Seth could dohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XemtnJ_5pk
>>740425013I've never played Virtua Fighter. What did you want me to do, lie about having played it? THAT would be posing.
>>740424998Sarah and Jacky's daughter, they're from Alabama, and that's the big reveal from Yu Suzuki himself
>>740410924Hard not to be bland when the origin and genetic ancestry of your franchise is just a bunch of generic block people Lots of old games have low visual fidelity, but in other games like street fighter that low fidelity is meant to represent something greater than its pixels. Street Fighter characters have an identity, so you can extrapolate from the tiny resolution sprites into a full picture of a fleshed out character. This is represented in the boxart, in the character portraits and promotional material and in fan art where the fans can take the idea of the character and build art out of it. Virtual Fighter characters have never been presented in this way, as something which is greater than their blocks, the official boxart and promo material literally just presents them as a lump of polygons >>740418421They were never implied to be anything more than bland cubes, there's nothing going on, there's no idea to flesh out
>>740422583Cielo and Stella are copying his pose in the character select screen
>>740424998>They really weren't kidding about this being a fighting street.
>>740425530If this was Xrd I'd agree with you, but it's strive we're talking aboutThey're not making a character with 30+ moves
>>740424352Thunder is cool. Fuck outta here retard
>brown tomboy jk>swaggy balloon cop>my best friend, boschwhy am i supposed to be mad?
>>740424352What's your problem with Thunder
>>740426162SF6 made me realize that japanese people are actually stupid
>>740425530if this was the case the most i can see them doing is giving him seth v-skill 1 from sf5 where he stocks up 1 stolen move
>>740424352literally everyone there except top left chars are cool
>>740424352
I think you guys don't realized how good the new Virtua Fighter is. Like the people in charge have innovated and you're all here just shit posting. I don't even think you watched the gameplay preview. I want to discuss it but it's fucking pointless here so I guess I have no choice but to go lurk in some VF streamer's chat.
>>740426416the limb break thing worries me
>>740426416VF devs weren't talking to schizos that jump from shitting on new game to new game
>>740426219I've always said this, but now SF6 and twatter's auto-translate feature vindicate me
>>740410924Virtua Fighter is literally for patricians. It's fighting system is technical, deep, and good, not even disputable outside of prefference for Tekken's more spacing oriented gameplay. The presentation was always good, save for the very bland first game. 2 was classic SEGA, 3 had a nice funky style to it, 4 is a little harder to describe, as is the case for a lot of early 2000 games. 5 was just beautiful, possibly the most beautiful fighting game ever made, and that's not a remote exageration. 5R and 5S I think was a bit worse looking than the original 5. R.E.V.O. is perfectly servicable.They just don't have hypefaggotry, like Kekken. They were never as "flashy", though they absolutely had glamor. VFC is definitely headed in a different direction as far as presentation goes, and I know it will definitely bring in a lot more players to VF. They evidently want a story for it. Prior to this the story was always a background thing.
>>740426416the people here literally never have a positive opinion on anything, this website is full of misanthropes. but its still the only good place to talk about vidya anyway
I'll try VF6 if it's not a crouching punch simulator like VF5
>>740425879>They're not making a character with 30+ movesAsuka has 26 spellsThe problem is the asset pipeline, it probably wasn't a big issue for SFV Seth because they can retarget animations and cleanup since SFV is all mostly regular people, but that's completely impossible with Strive's visuals>>740426235Yeah, it's a cool concept but I never played SFV, and I think overall it would lead to more interesting combos with RCs in the picture
>>740426641Don't like dick punch counter?
>>740425302Don't really see how someone giving an option you disagree is "grooming" or "creating an issue." You could always explain why you like the name Virtua outside of it being attached to series you like.Sega picked the name Virtua specially to adverse 3D. They did it with other games like other Virtua Strikers and Virtua Racing. This isn't even just an option, but a statement of fact. The name Street Fighter isn't really specific to anything other than it being a fighting game.
bros.... she's cute
>>740426416if you're sitting in a fucking streamers chat discussing video games you should stay there and never come back to /v/ as long as you fucking live
>>740426416>>740426480>>740426586I didn't care about VF back then and I don't care about it now that it's pandering to zoomers. Bite me.
>>740426870VIRTUA COP ELITE EDITION!
>>740426380THawk and the chef's sampler
>>740426219SF6 did it? It wasn't the all the gachaslop they churn out and consume?
>>740426873yeah, during animations/concept art/2d promos, now check out ingame in a month
>>740426870>The name Street Fighter isn't really specific to anythingYeah this is how you know you're dealing with a 3rd worlder. Look up "Street" and then "Fighter" and then put the two together
>>740427109don't mind if i do, i like how sf6 looks. i'm not a contrarian
>>740424201this game was made by burgerslook at the extended presentation, half the team is foreignersa sad sight
>>740427132>Look up "Street" and then "Fighter" and then put the two togetherDid you not finishing read the post?>The name Street Fighter isn't really specific to anything other than it being a fighting game.
>>740426983So you only watch the single player trailer and not the gameplay preview. You're an idiot.
>>740410924I think Virtua Fighter is just gonna flop for one reason: Nobody cares about an open world game in SEAroach favela where everyone talks like a 15 year old beaner millennial in downtown bronx. I speak for literally everyone even people who do live in thai and malaysian shitholes in that nobody wants to be in dirty SEA slums. With a fat version of pic related quipping "I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU JUST FREAKIN' DID THAT WUBBA LUBBA DUB DUB" every ten seconds while you get passed back and forth to returning characters like a used onahole.
>>740427238>this game was made by burgersNah bruh burgers make shit like this the nigga dont even got an afro or the dreads with the sides cut
how can you unironically seethe over the fact that games are catering to 20 year olds instead of 40 year olds
>>740410924VFC feels like the second coming of Dreamcast Soulcalibur 2. Not since then has a fighting game felt truly next generational compared to its contemporaries and what came before it. I think Sega has a hit on their hands if they can market it right. I could totally see this breaking through to the type of normie crowd that casually plays MK for the singleplayer
>>740427365the "gameplay preview" wasn't shown at summer game fest because gameplay isn't what they spent the majority of their budget on nor is it what their business strategy is with the productthe lifetime of this game will be more mystery meat characters with zoomer pandering DLC and simple controls to appeal to the modern control scheme audiencecan't wait to see what rapper they put in as a cameo
>Dreamcast Soulcalibur 2
>>740427510The hilarious part is that Capcom is collaborating with a company that's doing the later part for 20 years and by some miracle, still not bankrupt. And Tekken is imploding because they're desperate to cater to 20yo
>>740410987>another active tag simple inputs gamejust stick it on the pile bro
>>740426219I'm glad people finally noticed this
>>740427484YOU HAVE 80 FUCKING THREADS UP FOR YOUR TWITTER NAZI SHITPOOPING ALL OVER THE BOARDUSE THEM AND LEAVE An ACTUAL VIDEOGAME THREAD ALONE
>>740425531no one here played VF because VF5 released in 2005 :D
>>74042751020 year olds like being talked to like 40 year old millennials?
>>740427664nigga the campiagn is optional, shut your dumbass up. you're lucky this site doesn't have names attach I would bully your retarded ass on a regularly basis.
"virtua fighter is finally interesting!" and Its the most boring and generic vf has ever looked. Where is the sega arcade charm? This series was never that grounded, you had Kage izuna dropping people from 15 feet and liquid metal cyborg killing machines. vf does not need to be this boring.
>>740427712SNK went bankrupt twice already. They got bought up by the chinese and then the saudis.
>>740410987BEASTulk!
>>740427695>two good things
>>740427109Mai, Chun, Ingrid, Cammy, Elena, and even Aki are all insanely hot. A female character looking good in SF6 is no concern unless you’re deranged
>>740427238>>740427484kek
>>740427835>campaign is optional just ignore it I'll just ignore the game. This is the fucking retarded City of the wolves argument again. This is entering a saturated market. What does it have for me?
>>740427873I meant Square Enix
>>740427857Atleast there's no fireballs and shits or using weapons or a gun
>>74042751020 year olds of today don't care about fighting games to begin with.
>>740427835the campaign may be optional for me what it wasn't optional for the teamthey spent 50% of their time making some shitass SF6 story mode ripoff instead of making the game actually good elsehwereI hope you enjoy QTE alleyway running scenes because that's what $40 of your $80 preorder went to, retard
>>740426380How did they fumble Lily so bad
>>740427895SoulCalibur 2 is the best "Dreamcast" game
>>740427948I have 3743 hours in Rev2. I have never played the story mode. Also I've owned the game on PS3 and PS4. Those are my Steam hours meaning it's more than that and I across three generations of console I have not clicked that story mode even once.
>>740427857Where is anything that SEGA would put into one of their games? No minigames, no interactable overworld, everything is static, and you walk slowly from setpiece to setpiece. The dialogue is Netflix slop and the campaign is set in the PS3 piss-filter era. Old Sega would set it in Super Malaysia where the streets are lined with gambling street vendors and you would be attacked by a monster halfway through the opening act. Why? because they make games with the idea that they're competing with flashing lights in an arcade, and make their games the same way.
>>740427835>nigga the campiagn is optionalSo optional that they spent 20 minutes of their 25 minute showcase talking about the shitty story mode and the city and how it's full of diversity and alive it is.
>>740427695Holy fuck I’m embarrassed lmao. I obviously meant Soulcalibur 1
>>740427380ok maybe the first 500 times this idea failed but surely this time it'll be a hit!you're gonna feel so stupid once the mythical modern audience + millions of seaniggers buy this game in droves thanks to the pandering (for $5, can't forget about regional pricing!)
>>740427510there are other games in the series outside of sf2 characters, why don't we stop including fucking blanka and honda for once? why is there little to no sf3 and sf4 rep, heck there a lot of fan favorite sf5 characters that aren't in, where is menat? why the fuck was bosch not included at launch or at least season 1? post like these piss me off so fucking much. this is a long running franchise with beloved characters of course people want some of them in but no instead we get nostalgia bait for fucking ff7, you know morrigan wouldve been a cool guest character and she hasn't had a game for fucking years and she is from an actual fighting game.
>>740428048Retarded argument only a fcg nigspic could make.SF4 and 5 had no content and still had the most garbage gameplay with decade outdated online.
I can't believe there are people gets triggered by a singleplayer content
>>740428048cry fgg cuck, companies dont need to cater to you faggots
>>740428303fgc nigspics nowadays are full of shills that keep saying they need full story mode campaigns to draw more casuals in.
>>740427510ah yes the demographic of 12 to 20 year old fighting game players who know virtua fighter from the arcade.
>>740427857they hired an english writer with no real credentials to put out movieslop for the campaign
>>740410924The VF story mode looks like what I wanted SF6 World Tour to be
fgg deserves all the pain it experienced after shit fighter v died, pathetic ass game
>>740428338they're the same people that defended Tekken 7, Sf5, MVCI, those indie fgs
>>740428338It's what happens when you grow up on Fightcade instead of 6th gen fighting games.
>>740428383Is David Hayter and Brad Kane that bad?
>>740428338because single player content is a waste of resources, fighting games are still niche outside of tekken and sf we have been trying with le single player content forever now and it clearly doesn't work.
>>740428338ok i'll just not play your game>nooooooo not like that!!!
>>740428547The most popular fighting games are MK, Smash, and SF6, all games with extensive single player focus
>>740428547>and it clearly doesn't work.It worked for SF.
>>740425531i want you to play it>>740427794you too
As someone who loved vf with all his heart, and played vf4 at a national level. If they ditch most of the cast, then good fucking riddance.The VF cast has always been fucking awful, it just plays the best of any fighter.VFC looks fucking great so far, and I had no hope for it at all.
>>740428582you don't play games at all who are you trying to fool
>>740428547I'm going to let you in on a secretSingle Player content in fighting games have ALWAYS been because most people play the single player modes of games. It's also the tutorial for the game that teaches you why you would want to use the mechanics, and when.So if the single player sucks, you just isolated upwards of half of your market.
i laughed when sfv flopped after it released with only ranked and a broken netcode
>>740428547>single player content is a waste of resourcesboomers couldn't stop getting hard over soul calibur 2's weapon master mode and virtua fighter's 4 quest mode.
>>740428724We play fucking fighting games to literally the entire market: you don't play games either. We play dinosaur dad games on the verge of extinction. who are you trying to fool?
>>740428614smash is not a fighting game
>>740428728b-b-but singleplayer is a waste
>>740428614>MKif sales is all the matters for you in video games then i guess sure but MK is not a game people actually play online
>>740428338i'm triggered because i tried to played it and it sucked. And i mean the arcade mode, you can't convince me to play your open world wannabe modes
>>740428446I still can't believe how insulting Tekken 7 was to the series legacy. Negative fucking content in a tekken game. Making yourself a cuck to onos crossover character being canon. The most terrible ost ever conceived. Selling out to sony to lock out other platforms from content. Movement gutted AGAIN and movesets hacked in half like casuals will care. Soul Calibur literally solved the moveset "bloat" issue since 2 or even 1 by having a signature skill tab.
I would rather watch Maxdood playthrough a fighting game campaign than play it myself. I only have time for training mode, rank match, shitting on trashcans. There's a reason why I have two monitors. I can't even remember when was the last time I played a fighting games shitty campaign. Deadly Alliance on PS2 maybe?
>>740428547>because single player content is a waste of resourcesYou say that but the discourse a few months ago was all about fighting games failing due to not being compelling products due to, among other things, not focusing on single player. This was obviously a reaction to 2xkuso failing while learning that even the "failed" MK1 sold a ton, FGC personalities had to find a justification. But now that SF discontinues World Tour and a game influencers are gonna need an excuse to ignore is including single player, I guess they're gonna shift discourse to what you're saying.
>>740428614Didn't MK1 flop?
>>740428832>>740428832why do people keep saying this, yes it is. i can find matches consistently
>>740428715>As someone who loved vf with all his heart>The VF cast has always been fucking awfulholy larp
>>740428864there has not been a single game outside of tekken, sf6, MK, and smash if you want to count that that has succeeded becasue of single player content. and these games can literally have nothing and the devs tell you to just imagine the content and will still be the most sold fighting games of all time.
>>740428997Blaz BlueSoul Calibur became shit the exact moment they gutted single player(and mutliplayer!) content in sc4.Even fucking xrd had an anime move mode and the arcade modes offering more canon and what if material.
>>740429117xrd nearly bankrupted arcsys you fucking retard
>>740428978It's true, it's always been true. The VF cast is what a SVU episode would imagine a fighting game cast to look like
How we feeling about STRIVE, fightan bros? I used to be one of Soive's biggest haters but 2.0 fixed half my problems with the game and Jam is fun as hell. Honestly at this point, I just wish the game had a good air dash everything else feels pretty good right now.
>>740428878Flop for MK standards and has no competitive player retention, but every other franchise wish they sold as much as it did
>>740429184it's street fighter for people that don't want to play street fighter and i've come to terms with that being the case, it's not anime enough for me and it will never be that.
>>740429184i tried it again after hating it on launch and still hated it
>>740429172and Cielo and not Sarah are the answers to this problem. You cant be real lol.
>>740429153Uh oh Melty Blood was a literal VN I read kneeling in front of my laptop with an arcade stick to be ready for the fights. A not unsubstantial part of why it got so big.
>Street Fighter V's biggest complaint was the lack of Singleplayer/Campaign>This community response made Harada delay Tekken 7 for a whole damn year so that Heihaichi's campaign was in the full game release>Thanks to Harada's decision as well as Capcom dropping the ball Tekken 7 was their biggest success>Mortal Kombat games literally sale on their Single Player campaign (and Youtube fatality montages because no one does them one by one in training mode) >Sega bros take in all the data>Segabros: Alright so in order to compete with these niggas we gotta have that big boy Singleplayer campaign. Call up the Yakuza studio right now >SEGA: Team 1, you focus on the fighting games parts>SEGA: Team 2, you focus on that Shenmue/Yakuza shit >Trailer drops and has everything>/v/: SINGLE PLAYER IN MY FIGHTING GAME?!?!?! AWW HELL NAW THEY RUINED THE GAME CATERING TO CASUALS lmao I wont lie I'm enjoying this turn of events. you niggers might be retards but at least your retardation makes me laugh
>>740429153and blazblue being popular because of single player is just not true, this game was HUGE in arcades before any of that
>>740429441its just fgg retards
I think VF Crossroads looks neat. I'll probably get it on launch if the rollback netcode is good.
Do people still play KI
>>740429184When I saw the first gameplay of strive my thoughts were "Why does this look like me mashing drunk on May in rev 2?" and I everything after just made even worse expressions.
>>740429441I don't give as much of a fuck as you think as a boomer, I just think it's funny that to sell fighting games to zoomer you gotta focus on everything but the actual part where you fight against another human opponent.
So was there any specific reason people wanted Tifa in a fighting game so bad or is it literally just because she punches people? I see people saying she was "perfect" for Tekken and I feel like I've lost my fucking mind. Yujiro was way better.
>>740429441They really pay 50 dollars for training mode and online
>>740428878 Was dead right off the release but it sold 10mil copies or some shit. It's every fighting games dev's dream if you think about it. Pump and dump
>>740429445Did you buy an arcade cabinet you dumb mouthbreather? No you did not.You bought a complete fucking game instead of a barebones early access skeleton with training mode and barely working ranked as vehicle to sell you more mtx.
>>740428728so we're now pretending a lack of singleplayer was the reason SFV flopped and not just being terrible in every possible regard?the game didn't work at launch and characters looked so bad they had to emergency fix cammy's face right before release due to outrage
>>740429746FF7 fangirls are mentally ill. Just look at any of the permanent generals they have up on /v/ for months.
>>740429184It's fine so far. Well the downside of nerfing all the roster means more homogenization and my fucking Sol is getting less sauce and less combo routes is crazy. Looking forward for Robo Ky and the two unnounced characters plus the short stories.
>>740429254>it's street fighter for people that don't want to play street fighterCrazy timeline>Wanna play a grounded Street Fighter-like game? You have options. You can play ArcSys' latest releases (Strive and Granblue), SNK's latest release (Fatal Fury) or just plain old Street Fighter>Want oppressive anime corner pressure? You can play Street Fighter. Not the anime game though, Strive has wallbreaks>Want oppressive anime pressure and combos but also good movement? Don't look to Japan for that, ArcSys and SNK slowed down, play western fighting games like Avatar, 2xko, Invincible or even the older Skullgirls instead. Even MK1 is relatively fast and with tons of oppressive tag based pressure, almost anime-like.Everything I've said would have sounded insane a generation or two ago.
>>740429746People expected Tifa in T8 due to Noctis appearing in T7 and the FVIIR series being recent.
>>740429746People will tell you its because FF7 is big everyone loves it and Ehrgeiz was good but it's all just larp. Tekken 7 got Noctis as a collab and people got mad it was Noctis and not any other FF character. Tekken 8 rolls around and people also assume there's going to be a FF collab, and with the FF7 remakes coming out surely it's going to be Tifa. Clive comes out and people start malding and talking about how it should've been Tifa since she's a good fit for a fighting game, etc.
>>740429746Max said it would be cool
>>740429746FF7 faggot are basically disney adults
>>740429916That pile of shit not even shipping with an arcade mode was literally THE biggest talking point about the game. Arcade with at least a story powerpoint chart at the start and end and maybe a rival match on 7th round was the bare minimum every fighting game featured since 5th gen. Even sf4 managed to do that.Because why care for any of the characters if you don't even see them interact in any way? Why buy a full priced product when it was just an esports grind scam platform?
>>740429851>Pump and dumpI think every fighting game dev's dream is making a cool game that people enjoy playing...
I always felt like a fighting game singleplayer should have just been a Beat Em Up game and finally one of the companies is smart enough to do it. It's not hard to be better since all fighting games have shit campaign modes since it's just some dumb version of the actual fighting game. But Virtua Fighter now has the greatest fighting game campaign to had ever grace the earth and it's not even out yet. Like bro, imagine if MvC's offline mode was just the 4player Xman game or 4p Marvel Ultimate Alliance. Shit would have been a 10 out of 10.
>>740410924Woke garbage with millennial humor and safe-horny women. No thanks. Picrel is all you need to know.Besides, no one will play this garbage because it's not Street Fighter 6 or Tekken 8.
>>740410987>being hyped for capeshit troonkon+100,000,000,000 izzat
Fighting game singleplayer should just be a glorified visual novel. Blazblue and Melty Blood had it right.
>>740429184I think the patch is a huge miss in tons of areas and in general S4 was better, I even disagree on changes to characters I typically hate, like SlayerThat said, I picked up Nagoriyuki and people are being very stupid and getting themselves killed, so I'm still having some fun>>740430069>Well the downside of nerfing all the roster means more homogenization and my fucking Sol is getting less sauce and less combo routes is crazy.I fucking hate this as wellNot just Sol btw, too many characters lost cool looking combo routes
>>740429746FFVII fans are obnoxiously loud and with her being a martial artist instead of using weapons makes her fit pretty good with the genre, she is hot so ofc extra points.
>>740430280Tekken had beatem up modes before! I think 3 had a sidescrolling one and 5 of course had the 3D devil within action platformer.
>>740430403nago came out generally unscathed in a patch full of nerfs, people aren't getting themselves killed he's just fucking retarded
>>740430317castrate yourself before you hurt someone
>>740430280>and finally one of the companies is smart enough to do itIt's been done. Guilty Gear Isuka had boost mode. Tekken had Tekken Force. Ehrgeiz had a roguelike beat em up that was more fun than the actual vs game. For some reason companies forgot about it when they forgot beat em up was a genre that exists.
>the actual best FF pick for a fighting game
>>740428520the crossroads trailer was like someone binged City of God and just decided to make it about slum fighting
>>740429746>So was there any specific reason people wanted Tifa in a fighting game so badIt's roots go way back as early as the late 90s early 00s. Fanfiction was very common back then especially on fighting game websites. Software like Mugen allowed fighting game fanfiction to become a reality during the early 00s. People would make stories, character lore, unofficial artwork, everything for these project to make them appear as real as possible. As a result, we ended up with iconic fgc stuff like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jq8lzaFgIMM There's a whole bunch of works like that one out there from the 2000s and FF vs SF (or TK) has always been a thing for a long ass time. Funny enough we still don't have Mortal Kombat vs Street Fighter and that one was probably the biggest one ever, AND EDBOON DID ATTEMPT TO GET CAPCOM TO APPROVE IT
>>740430601Auron Soul Calibur don't @ me>calls the souls Spira
Wait, corssroads is VF6 and not a spin off/prequel?
>>740424998She's flat-chested and has no ass, but we showed her midriff and a female designer so it can't possibly be offensive or safe
I want to get into Virtua Fighter, would you guys recommend I start at Shenmue, Judgement, or Lost Judgement
>>740430859Nigga have you missed bearded Akira? Bearded Wolf?
>>740429746 its because FF7 is big everyone loves it and Ehrgeiz was good
>>740431038to his credit, it wasn't called Crossroads when they showed those. It's easy to think they're announcing 2 different games
>>740430859Why would it be
>>740429184it's goodi just want faster airdashes and easier insta blocks, 2f is too demanding for me. Also replay takeover cause this is one of the most matchup heavy series and i fucking HATE having to do myself the stuff i need to learn to counter
>>740430403>the peak of Strive's awful powercreep was betterlol no. The game NEEDED to be toned down, it was becoming a clown show. S5 fucked over some characters but in general, this is a much better direction for the game. They just went a little too far with some specific character changes and that's easily fixable in the next few updates.
10 more years of drive rush
>>740429441VF6 is a carbon copy of SF6 with millennial humor. Miss me with that shit.
i hope if they retouch strive 2.0 like they said they move the power from gay ass 50/50 to better movement tools
>>740431005Basically Shenmue if you wanted to know how Virtua Fighter combat works in adventure games but beware of long and probably boring to you story. Judgement is good but long judgement is Tekken juggle fest if you know the combos and a better combat than Judgement.
>>740431343>VF6 is a carbon copy of SF6it looks 10x better than SF6's horrible singleplayer lol. that shit was embarrassing on every level.
>>740430484I see you've already led by example, young troon. VF6's campaign and lack of actual fighting will suit you just fine for the first three days until you return to SF or Tekken.
>>740431092>its because FF7 is bigIt's not 1998 anymore.
>>740431490what the fuck are you babbling about lol
>>740431183There's a mod for replay takeover at least but it really is something they should make common in every fighting game.
>>740431441If you're blind, maybe.
>>740430456>>740430585Tekken never had a good beat em up team to direct a beat em up mode for their fighting game, or they at least forgot they had one and didn't use them. Now they did end up making Death by Degree which is a full on beat em up Tekken game with a higher budget than Tekken force. But it turned out shit so they scared them from ever trying it again. Isuka is a literal side game. SEGA has RGG and their beat em up gameplay has been proven to be loved by everyone in the Yakuza games. So all Sega is doing is having that team make the offline mode while the fighting game team focus on the fighting game modes. They're doing it right and it will end up being the best offline fighting game campaign ever.
>>740431404>Judgement is good but long judgement is Tekken juggle fest if you know the combos and a better combat than Judgement.Oh, that was a joke on how the best way to play VF5 for a while was through Judgement
>>740431562Ah, pretending to be retarded. The hallmark of trans-coded responses. As I said, VF6 will be perfect for you.
>>740431237toning down anime games is fucking retarded
>>740431541Actually aren't the remakes struggling in sales?
>>740431598>and it will end up being the best offline fighting game campaign ever.Hey man hard to Soul Calibur 3 but I will not cry if it happens.
>>740429746There's an actual explanation for this that most anons seem to be too young to remember. Back in the '90s, Final Fantasy, Tekken and Dead or Alive some of of the selling points for Sony during the 5th generation console wars among other games. A lot of people who gamed back then were familiar with all these franchises sharing a space. When Ehrgeiz came out, Tifa was included in the roster that put her into the minds of the fighting game conciousness. The franchises all shared discussion in Sony's gaming space.Starting in the 6th generation, crossover characters became a point of discussion. Tifa was already in Ehrgeiz, and the Dead Fantasy CGI fan series of videos gained some popularity which was basically Dead or Alive vs Final Fantasy, so the idea of putting Tifa into a fighting game as a crossover character became prominent. As Dead or Alive lost market share, the bulk of the conversation shifted to adding Tifa into Tekken. This thought got grandfathered into discussion on crossover characters for Tekken after FF7 fell out of common discussion.Fighting games came back into vogue later, and FF7R became a thing, so it's really just an old conversation that became popular again. But then we got Clive, and people were shitting on FF16 from its announcement, so everyone started going "where's Tifa" driven by influencers who were kids in the 90s. The idea of putting her in other fighting games only came out of salt over Tekken, when no one actually wanted her in Street Fighter or anything.
>>740430280its been done before and it always sucked.it will suck now too.
why 2d fightans don't just do metroidvania single player modes? It works especially well for anime games, take a look at blazpoo entropy something. The strong movement helps traversing the map, lots of moves, you can lock shit in the forms of power ups you need to find, etc. It goes by itself. They only need to make a map and some mobs. Definitely more interesting than a beat em up and you don't need to worry about the z axis (i played the gg isuka beat em up mode and it was AWFUL)
Pai Chan? more like Pai Sex haha
>>740431598>>740430280Oh wait you're serious. You actually think this millennial humor slop is good? It's just a ripoff of SF6
>>740431831>actually aged up a womanBamco would never do this
>sfags are actually shaking in their boots because vf looks goodor is it tekfags? which one?
>>740431721Yes hard. The first one still got decent sales by the nature of lying so hard about what it actually is but 2nd fell off a cliff. And for 3 they dropped all exclusivity hoping to get as much sales as possible.
>>740431706Strive's anime fighter elements were toned down from the start, what are you talking about? What they toned down was the ridiculous unfun shit.
>>740427380I don't think the story for this VFC game will even be good.
>>740431824The real quest is why even bother with the fighting game part then? Entropy Effect is a success, it's just a single player roguelike.
>>740431831They aged her gracefully holy shit. She doesn't look plastic or like the poorly facescanned female characters. Take notes, everyone else.
Has anyone here played the latest version on VF5? I saw that it got review bombed. Apparently the update introduced an intrusive anti-cheat. I have an older version on PSN, but I don't if anyone still plays that.
>>740425325Pretty much, yeah. I'm kinda surprised. Sure, Peru has Azucena and Brazil had Eddy for a long time, so this is how it feels...I'd say the first run of WorldWarBot gave us more exposure than our own tourism ministry lol
>>740431984/tekgen/ is all ready to turn into /3df/ if vf turns out well. Sfags have always been sonyfan tier in how they shit on everyone else without break.
tekken is basically dead
>>740431824because it doesnt work well at all.fighting game logic locks two characters on opposing ends and all their actions including movement and blocking are relative to the opponent. every time a fighter tried to design its single player around that fact with multiple enemies on the screen it always felt like utter dogshit.single player in fighting game is a massive waste of resources.entropy effect is not a fighting game. if people crave single player gameplay then the devs should make single player offshoots with gameplay thats built for them.
Guys, i was never an Ingrid fag but her default outfit in SF 6 as well as her moon girl idol personality legitimately has me diamonds.
>>740432217SF6 is so awful
>>740410924dunno the new zoomer chink with chicano music sucks
>>740432145Every time I go in to /sfg/ they're complaining about slime
>>740432145>if vf turns out wellWhich it won't
Chun-Li is without a doubt the ryona queen in fighting games but who's beneath her?
>>740432145its literally the opposite. tekken fans have literally always insulted DOA and VF
I have no problem with VF itself I simply don't want the VFfags to be right. They weren't particularly obnoxious or anything, we've just been joking about them for decades and it'd feel weird now to stop.
>>740432217I kind of hate her god shtick and her terrible 4th wall bits. I hate her now more than I ever did. I like her hat though.
>>740418521Es is the best
>>740429746because nobody plays videogames so we are the point of "add whatever is popular to get people hyped".I expect pokemon girls showing up in a fighter using lucario or whatever.
Who would make for a good Guest character in VF? Only thing I can think of is Bruce LeeJet LiJackie ChanTony JaDonnie YenChuck Norris I'm sure there are some other martial artist I'm forgetting. With Sega bringing back dead people like Tupac I think they'll try to get Bruce Lee. I just hope it's not some modern day UFC fighter or Boxer
>>740430471>nago came out generally unscathed in a patch full of nerfsHis command throw got hurt pretty badly, both from losing the throw invuln and the return being only 50% Blood GaugeThis also makes Clone>Fukyo way worse because at certain ranges his only threat is 2P, and the only conversion that doesn't fuck him over in terms of blood gauge is CH 2P>6K>BSUI won't say he's significantly worse, but he got nerfed a bit and that's on top of S4 nerfsHe's not as intact as a Goldlewis, Unika, or Axl>people aren't getting themselves killed he's just fucking retardedPeople are 100% getting themselves killed, I just do staggered mids and zoning>>740431237>the peak of Strive's awful powercreepThat was release Wild Assault, unless you played Potemkin who could unblockable you from having blocked Blue WA in the airS4's changes were good because they focused on toning down retarded aspects of certain characters, like removing Nagoriyuki's high/low through both patchesI can't really think of a change like that in 2.0, maybe ABA having worse normal mode, but if you played resources you could already fuck her over>They just went a little too far with some specific character changes and that's easily fixable in the next few updates.I just don't have as much faith in them as I did after S4, plenty of characters are untouched, while others caught strays
>>740432210just add a dedicated block button that works both ways or remove block completely, it's not essential vs mobs. Have you played castlevania sotn? It has motion inputs and works fine
>>740432996If it's not Kiryu first then I couldn't care any less.
>>740432750She's out of place but mechanically she's almost everything wrong with SF6. Slow fireball, fireball drive rush, plus on block neutral skip, crouching medium kick drive cancel, retard easy 70% damage routes, a "fuck you" level 2The only reason she and Sagat don't have throw loops is because loops on top of all this is because loops got meme'd on
>>740432997>I just do staggered midsthis is like 90% of strive pressure and nago is a character that excels at this, he plays strive better than most of the cast
>>740428338>VF fans hating VF6>Marvel fans hating Tokon>SF6 fans hating S4>SNK fans ''hating'' CotW or KoF>Tekken 8 fans being dead quiet/v/ sure is an odd place.
>>740432996Literally fucking Ryo Hazuki
I kinda agree with the anon about the single player content. I would rather have game modes that you can replay multiple of times rather than a straight up 5 hour experience
>>740432996
>>740410924Fighting games have a thread on /vg/. Why is this thread allowed on /v/?
>>740433154Actual SNK fans don't even realize they're still making games as they keep playing the old KoFs and Metal Slugs on emulators
>>740433154>VF fans hating VF6tekfagsftfy
>>740433289>DURRRR DON'T TALK ABOUT VIDEO GAMES ON /V/ DURRRRRRRR
>>740426416Most people on /v/ don't play videogames.
>>740433154>Marvel fans hating TokonI'm pretty sure it's just salty MvCfags hating Tokon
>>740433024>just add a dedicated block button that works both ways or remove block completelydisgusting
>>740432507Mai
>>740433331>tekfagsits funny, if you go to their general on vg they have random meltdowns over sf6 and vf6
>>740431757>le ehrgeiz dead fantasysure, but nobody was asking for her to be in SF of all things. You know this anon.
>>740433209Singleplayer content with good replayability is a must
>>740433493tekken fags are secondaries which first console was the ps2. They don't even know kazuya and keep seething that jin isn't the face of the series on crossovers.
>>740432996>asking for guest slopkill yourself
>>740432996Joe Musashi skin for Kagemaru is a no-brainer. Any Yakuza character would work, Shenmue too. From other companies though? They already had Tekken costumes for the collab with VF5, they could get any Tekken character. Obviously they could get an SNK character as they just lend their characters to anyone. A DoA guest would work pretty well as cross promotion for DoA7 when DoA already had VF guest characters in the past.
>>740431831Kissable. Marriable even.
>>740428338People just understand second order effects, unlike your retarded ass.
>>740433154I'm not a Tekken 8 fan, I'm an Asuka Kazama fan, all I need is other characters for her to beat up.
>>740433663>NO WAY BRO! IN OUR GAME, NO WAY! HAHA NO WAY WE ARE GETTING GUEST CHARACTER. WE'RE SAFE FROM GUEST CHARACTERS HAHA!>meanwhile Sega's racing game is collabing with everything in existence Thanos: I am inevitable *snaps*
>>740428726>Single Player content in fighting games have ALWAYS been because most people play the single player modes of games. It's also the tutorial for the game that teaches you why you would want to use the mechanics, and when.lol
>>740433997Holy based
>>740434005i wouldn't mind Thanos in VF actually
>>740430259>Because why care for any of the characters if you don't even see them interact in any way?nice larp, thx for exposing yourself m8the game did have a story mode at launch with characters interacting, it was just shit like everything else (featuring art made in a literal weekend by akiman)
Why is there so much emphasis on DLC for these fighting games? Like there's no demand for in-game content or modes but DLCs are the biggest talk
>>740433154>>740433331It's not even VF anymore, just cinemaslop with a fighting minigame and nostalgiabait
>>740434170It's hype bro. Why are you thinking about hard about it? It's just hype. Exciting. HYPE!
>>740431775we have to pretend it's never been done to explain why normies didn't buy those games in droves
>>740433943You watched some celeb do a video essay about "second order" didn't you?
>>740434170because the genre has become pay2win shit, and we have plenty of people itt unironically defending it.
>>740434254no but the fact that you feel intimidated by such a word is very telling.
>>740434247LET'S GO MAX DOOD
>>740434329game good. I open wallet. what's the problem anon? game not good for you but game good for me. See? I have fun. You no fun. You disappointed. You angry at others for fun. Why you angry as others for fun???
>>740433943they showed the vs battle mode and it didn't seem like second order effect applied there.
>>740434170we used to just pay for a new installment every year or two and it was better i want to go back
Engrish
>VFC just copying SF6's World tour mode>"OMG, VF looks exciting! WOW!"
>>740433139>this is like 90% of strive pressure Kinda true ngl>nago is a character that excels at this, he plays strive better than most of the castNot really, and it's kind of the entire reason he has Clone to be able to force offenseHe can't stagger cS as easily as the rest of the cast, and his S/H buttons don't have the best frame data (excluding 6H, which is closer range)
>>740434150>1 hour mp4 file is a "mode"No and neither was it in Tekken 7.
>>740434554its actually unbelievable that subhumans were impressed by this.seriously one of the worst experiences I had in my life.
member this kino? i memberhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Grlck4PpWpwYou can tell how these companies give zero fucks by the way these characters are introduced. No cinematics, no lore, no build up, just "get excited for next product".
>>740433997Why are her shorts unzipped all the time
>>740431598what are you talking about retardit's it's not a beatemup, the single player fighting is the exact same as the regular 1v1 gameplay except you're playing against retarded npcs you can mash throughit's not yakuza gameplay
>>740434550me white gorrilla me have funI dont understand anon why he no fun? me see good game and have fun
>>740434554But it looks like they're trying to make it decent instead of the abomination that 6's was
>>740434554>>740434610Careful, they'll call you an "angry Tekkuck" and "not a real VF fan" for daring to point that out
>>740434624SF x T was 10 years too early..
>>740434541No it wasn't. Online was already bad when most games had delay netcode and no crossplay. Fewer players than nowadays too. All new versions did was split the fanbase between people who bought the new version and people who didn't, making online even worse. Only people who liked it had locals.
Looks like the shitposting seamonkeys found the thread who do not care about videogames.
>>740434814I'm not a "real VF fan" anyways.
>>740434554Correct me if I'm wrong but that's not exactly a new thing as of SF6, is it?
>>740434856Nah that shit was ono x inafune coded so it died
>>740434901oh no not the passive aggressive fag vaguepost
what's your excuse for not playing uni2 right now?
>>740434785>f bombs>le heckin' funny wubbalubbadubdub fat guy>girlboss>quirky brown dude>barely any fighting
>>740434948it is for SF.
>>740434901they heard someone making fun of them and came here like crows to a dead body kek
>>740433331/tekgen/ is having an total meltdown over VF6.
>>740434582again, way to prove you weren't therethe 1 hour story cutscene was added later due to complaints like yours, to no effect on salesbut the game did have the exact mode you described it as not having, at launch, with characters interacting over drawn cgs following their own stories with fights interspersed and a final boss at the end (the weird aztec dude who was the villain before they brought back bison)
>>740434921wtf is that real?
>>740434987>>barely any fightingyou've played it?
>>740434970i like MBTL better
>>740434901i hate when /vg/fags can't stick their highschool lunch table board
>>740434970ugly dlc girls kamone female design is some dei weeb take. I think he wants to strive gays to play his game
>Izumi and Zohar>Ugly
>>740434554Actually. SF6 copies Yakuza mod and VFC is made by the same studio that made Yakuza
>>740435086There's no gameplay so...
>>740434970I don't like anime fighting games.
>>740434554Shenmue was going to be a virtua fighter RPG before it became it's own thing. The "world" schtick seems to have been in VF to a degree as of VF4 with quest mode.
>>740435069no, but this is.
>>740435190>fully covered dei anime girls that femboys can cosplayyeah it's ugly
>>740434970combos too long which is boring.
>>740434649That's just how they roll in Madagascar I guess?
he forgot the one testament troon in uni that was the first dlc for the game
>>740435040>tekkenfags dealing with the double blow of VF6 coming after their crown AND losing out of TifaNot a good time to be a Kekken Kek.
>>740415030Only VF4 was good.
>>740434970routes are too long and too tedious to learn and the game doesn't have enough players
>>740435483You also forgot>Harada, Nakatsu left>Murray ready to leave https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zx0RSlO6plQ
>>740434970i'm heterosexual
I'm gonna miss you :(
>>740434970like other said I really dislike the combos in that game for being extremely tedious to learn and pull off in a match. I hope they tone it down in the next game. At least cut it in half
>>740434970Maybe later. If I get hit by Seth 2c again I'm gonna start kicking routers.
>>740435619All the sold shitters leaving is good. Let young people with motivation and bite have a go at it instead of crusty arcade boomers who haven't played a fighting game in 20 years.
>>740435619>>Murray ready to leaveDon't give me hope, that's the one thing that needs to happen for the game to truly continue getting better.
>>740435484DoA5 was good too
>>740435050That dude looks like a fusion of Luke and Jamie
>>740435050SF6 Season 5 guest
>>740435931who are those new young people when the team who worked up to S2? Are the team after S4 gonna be fired too? Do even know if were getting an new season after yujiro?
>>740435483>VF6 coming after their crown?????There is like, zero overlap between VF and Tekken kek
Why do Kekken Keks have so low IQs? are they all brown ESLs?
THEY TURNED VANESSA LEWIS INTO A FEMBOI????WTF
>>740436401pakis
