What is it about this little handled that makes this board so mad?
It can't be pirated or emulated. So all the poor browns on /v/ are seething that they can't play the exclusives.
>>740451408>What is it about this little handled that makes this board so mad? haven't been told what the zelda game will look like yet so there's no way to know if the purchase was worth it
>>740451408I bought one and I don't feel like it was worth it yet. Hopefully a direct comes soon and announces some really good games
The release of this thing and the current hardware costs delayed the transition to the next generation by like 3 years probably.
>>740453274How did the Switch 2 in and of itself delay the next gen?
>>740451408It has games and can't be emulated
>>740453353i-it just DID, okay?!
>>740453274delayed the next generation how? Sony sure as hell isnt releasing any games
>>740453353>>7404534053rd parties will continue developing games for the current consoles instead of the next generation.
>>740451408Needs more non casual/core casual games that aren't third party slop
>>740453394>>740453405because all 3rd party games have to be built to work on the switch 2
>>740453515>you wont have to upgrade to play the newest slopbased nintendo
>>740451408well, /v/ stand for /v/rowns you know?
>>740453515OK?
>>740453551devs will have to optimize instead of forcing us to buy the newest graphics cards or a $1200 PS6? BASED NINTENDO
>>740453158I dunno man, first year was pretty good. Bananza was great and brought back the Kremlings, a longtime fan request. MKW and the grind mechanics are a great innovation for the series. Pokopia is the best Pokemon spinoff in years. Yoshi and the Book is on par with Woolly World. Pretty good.
>>740451408It's the one console (and handheld) that still produces games worth playing, doesn't have an insane upsell, and is from a company that still focuses on ACTUAL VIDEO GAMES.>>740451859Also this.
>>740453994This.I just love video games so much I can't stand it`
>>740451859exactly, /v/ is basically one big emulator general
>>740451408For one it games, so snoys seethe to no end. peecee pathetic race vegans hate it because not only they don't even game, but most of all, they can't pirate games or emulate it.
>>740453551wtf, that's based!?
>>740451859It's literally just this. Although it's not just browns, it's largely redditard pc vegan types who are the biggest pirates and feel very self entitled because muh corporations bad.
>>740453515What do you think next gen games will be? PS6 and Xbox 5 are both based on RDNA 5 which isn't packed full of new hardware rendering features compared to Nvidia hardware, next gen games are just going to double down on ray tracing with ray tracing expected to become between 4x - 6x cheaper per frame, asset quality will remain the same, actor density will rise but that's scalable, resolutions and framerates will rise, but you can scale all of this back to PS5 and even Switch 2.
>>740451859It doesn't have a single goddamn game I care about, Nintendo needs to get it together. It is a nogaems machine for me.
>>740455096sounds like you have a bad case of shit taste.
>>740451408It's a shit piece of hardware that doesn't do anything right yet tendies bought it
>>740451408no games. I have one and wish Nintendo had made more games for it
>>740451408>gamekey cards>nogames>overpriced dogshit with underpowered hardwareliterally no redeeming features tbdesu
>>740455418why would tendies buy the ps5?
>>740455375>sounds like you have a bad case of good taste.ftfyIt's a curse. Can't even enjoy pokemon anymore. I wish I had shit taste.
>>740455515i doubt that you even play games.
>>740455096>It doesn't have a single goddamn game I care about, Nintendo needs to get it together. It is a nogaems machine for me.Maybe you're just a dumb brown normgroid
>>740455418it plays games just fine, so I'd say it does what its made for
Success breeds jealousy.
>>740455478tendie, I don't care for your gay little politicsat least the snoybox is 2020 hardware that released in 2020the switch 2 is 2020 hardware released in 2025it does nothing right>>74045606030fps isn't fine in 2026 if you have eyes
>>740456712it has games unlike your favorite box.
>>740455096DKB is great. Absolutely a reason the buy the whole console for it.
>>74045671230 FPS is fine, some of the best games ever made dont hit 60
>>740451859fpbp
>>740456802games aren't a property of the hardware, it's the operating system that could be transplanted onto anything else >>740456827I'm sorry for your loss
>>740456872how is enjoying games my loss?
>>740451408it insists upon itself
>>740456872Maybe someday /v/ will learn most people don't give a fuck about frame rate.
>>740456923you're so ignorant that you manage to stomach 30fpshope you'll one day witness what 240hz feels like>>740456984>tripfag loves eating shit and appeals to retardation unsurprising
>>740457123>you're so ignorant that you manage to stomach 30fpsyoure so autistic that you spend more time looking at framerate than palying games
>>740451408it's expensive and successful, and this is a poorfag snoy jeet board
Ban all snoys and PCfaggots.
>>740457402>you don't care about games if you have standards for performance
>>740457490on the contrary, deport all tendies to /vp/ and turn it into a tendie centric board
>>740457515if youre autistic about framerate*FTFY
>>740457618Oh fuck off. If anything, you snoys and Palsnoys should be deported to a containment shithole board.
>30fps doesn't matter!>over inflating some faggy cozy slop and shitty open world mario kart just because it's exclusive to a cucksole>blatantly samefagging and posting from a proxy site>muh salesthese nintendo adult niggers really are the new snoys huh
>>740457727look at the catalog you retarded tendiesee how little tendie activity there is?you're a minority, pc is the majority and you're squirming
>>740457736>those games dont count!>LOOK AT THE FRAMES! THE FRAMES! STOP ENJOYING GAMES, LOOK AT THE FRAMERATE!!!what a sad, pathetic life you lead
>>740457736All consolefags act the same, desu
>>740457618okay, as long as you faggot stay off.
>>740457663>everyone that isn't used to blindly and unquestioningly eating shit like me doesn't like games
>>740457830I count 4 nintendo threads, and 3 threads seething about nintendo
>>740457830>pc is the majority and you're squirmingSnicker.
>>740451859piracy will happen only reason it hasnt is because security is tough now so exploits will be hoarded for as long a spossible. we only got switch 1 hacks because ktemkin stole an exploit found by others and sold it to nintendo it was big drama at the time
>>740457927everyone who is autistic about framerate and tells others to stop enjoying them because he's autistic about framerate doesnt like games*FTFY
he's in his "i'm totally a PC player" phase of his meltdown, i see.
>>740456937Personally, I think it's rather shallow and pedantic.
>>740457932exactly, out of 200 threadsthat's nothing, if Nintendo was relevant it wouldn't be that few>>740457949how many board polls have to be made for you to stop deluding yourself, you attention whoring tripfag?
>I shall have my Milky Bar now, motha'Then of course, Nintendo still has that nostalgia-cow they can milk to eternity. They just (re)released Donkey Kong 64 on the Switch Online service (with Expansion pack), so you can easily "switch" from modern gaming to classical games from when your parents were still together and you had potential.
>>740458243Buddy, the only reason people discuss PC these days is to complain about how expensive they are now, how Valve is fucking itself into oblivion, and how irrelevant PC has become.
>>740456091flaseflag
>>740458002maybe you shouldn't be on a videogame board if you're extolling your ignorance and lower standards be a casual all you want but don't act like it's a virtue
>>740458243if nintendo wasnt relevant there wouldnt be 4 threads up at the same time seething about them
>>740458418extolling my ignorance? have you even played anything today or just spent your entire day making threads seething at the Big N?
>>740458343now that's delusional >>740458438you're right, if nintendo was relevant there would be 20
>>740458414Perhaps but she's not wrong
>>740458501For some people raging at Nintendo is all they have.
>>740458581>if I dont see threads about [company[ on a taiwanese basket weaving forum all hours of the day, its irrelevantwhat a truly sad life you live
>>740458609kys tripfag noone asked you
>>740458501yes, ignorancethat's how you end up defending playing shit at 30fps in 2026
Should i pick one up now? I mostly want to play bananza and kart
>>740458714Oooh, touched a nerve. Does Nintendo's existence and continued success offend you?
>>740458717if I play games regardless of framerate, thats gaining more experience and knowledge of games, whereas by being incredibly autistic about framerate, youre ignorantly missing out on at least half the games coming out these days
>>740458789Yeah your faggotry really got to me
>>740451859>exclusivesLolLmaoEven
>>740458812what fucking bubble are you living in where 30fps is commonplace outside of the subterranean standards of tendies?
>>740458414>flaseESL or just retarded?
>>740458910more exclusives than both competitors combined
It was supposed to be another Wii-U but it's looking more like the 3DS to the Switch's DS.It'll be a modest success but won't be able to reach the Switch's success for reasons outside Nintendo's control.The fact that it'll get more third-party support than normal Nintendo consoles due to the power gape being less of an issue and the RAM/flash fuckery delaying the next Playstation/Xbox a year at least.
It's amazing how hard Nintendo's success makes snoys and PCsnoys seethe.
>>740458929shift those goalposts harder
>>740459005boo hoo. maybe they'll actually have some games for you then.
>>740459005>It'll be a modest success but won't be able to reach the Switch's successDelusional snoy.
>>740459016You will never play marathon
>>740459093good.
>>740459093oh nooooo not the extraction shooter slop losing players daily!
>>740459035no goalposts have been shifted here only tendies play shit at 30fps at this point
I gotta admit, anything that doesnt run well and/or perfectly on either Cemu or Eden (only an emulation progress issue at this point with my 9800x3d/5070ti) does make me want to grab a Switch 2 before the price hike, then grab a Pro Controller 2 for more immersion in my PC emulation tooThis will only get worse once they release that OoT remake, Duskbloods, new Mario and future Zelda... you know what, maybe it is a good idea to buy one, i'd literally have all my bases covered since I hate movieslop "games"
>>740459157youre right, because snoys dont even play games
>>740459157And yet it doesn't stop games from selling.
Snoys need to be killed, holy shit.
>>740451859This right here we've seen people get scammed thinking they'd get to emulate it only to realize they got scammed and blame Nintendo for it.
>>740459157>youre being ignorant of games by playing more games>uh b-but what about these games I THINK are above 30 FPS???sounds like goalpost moving to me
>>740458717I play shit at 30fps on my PC all the time so I can crank up the RT. Git gud
>>740459220ok? snoys eating shit sometimes doesn't justify you tendies doing so constantly >>740459224I don't see how you think blind consumerism is a win, tripfag
>>740459448>eating shit sometimes>sometimeslol
>>740459448>I don't see how you think blind consumerism is a winsays the PCfag, the pinnacle of a blind consumerist.
>>740459448It just shows that the vast majority of people don't care as long as the game is fun.
>>740451408It’s Nintendo
>>740459005I don't think enough people realize how bad the RAM/flash situation is gonna fuck up the next Playstation/Xbox.We're now looking at close to $1k for a fucking console. Remember when the 3DO launched at $700 and flopped because of it? Couple that with the current state of the economy and you have a recipe for disaster. Sony and MS might just try to wait out the price hikes but that'll push the launch year into 2028 and beyond.The worst part? There are NO games that actually push the hardware of the PS5/XSX like what the PS3/360 and PS4/Xbone got. The best looking games this gen look barely any better from the prior gen. We've officially hit a diminishing returns ceiling.
>>740459509nothing blind about it? you're picking exactly what you want and you know what everything doesconsoles are a package deal for low info retards>>740459407disgusting
>>740451408>It's Nintendo>Not hackable yet (or day1)>Exclusives>Not bent the knee to graphicfagging>Part of the group applying predatory practices despite being the last one to join and only joining after it was made a thing by consumers>It's a success>More importantly... it's NintendoAlso >>740451859
Reminder that even Stellar Blade 1 will be ported over to Switch 2 KEK, judging by equivalent GPU it'll even hit 60fps at 1080p with some scaling helpThis generarion has taught us that only Asians are interested in making good games, thus you're more than covered with re-releases/port being brought over
>>740451408Console wars never died. All of the “mature” people that think they’re above it just engage in it covertly. For instance Resetera is always glazing everything Sony does but if you ask them if they have a bias they’ll tell you console wars are childish. Most PC players have a superiority complex or are massive cultists for a platform like Steam but also see console wars as childish. It’s really sad and pathetic
>>740459576havent you heard? Sony has the inside track to get RAM and parts for cheap that no other console developer, tech company, or data center thought to use and theyre going to eat $300 per unit to win back marketshare
>>740453515And? How this is Nintendo related since 3rd parties actively avoid them?
>>740459660>Most PC players have a superiority complexIts nice seeing them eat crow lately.
>>740459703>since 3rd parties actively avoid them?what on earth did you mean by this
>>740459660Resetera is politically driven and captured, we used to fight for games not sucking up Sony California because of troon dei support, its a different context
>>740459703>since 3rd parties actively avoid them?Welcome back from Mars, things have changed since you left.
>>740453515Anon, the current console AND next generation is Switch 2. It's a 10th Gen system. PS5 and Series X are still 9th gen system.
>>740455096I too constantly post in threads seething about things I "dont care about"
>>740459616>constantly buys games he will never touch just because they are on sale>buys the best PC parts even though the only games that require them are unoptimized trash>only loads up a game so he can take a screenshot of it at max setting then closes it and never opens it again
>>740459616You're not some CS Pro competing for first lol get over yourself
>>740453515Switch 2 is the start of the next generation, retard. - PS3/Xbox 360/Wii- PS4/Xbox One/Wii U- PS5/Xbox Series/Switch- Switch 2/???/???
>>740456091Falseflag because all Nintenchads are also Steamchads.Yes I own a Switch 2 AND an 'Eck.
>>740455096>It doesn't have a single goddamn game I care about =/= not having gamesShit, faggot; the PS5 has no fucking games and even being nice acknowledging those shitty cinematic crap that I don't care about that are actually exclusive, like 3 of them, is a good thing since it's something for the dumb lot that cares about those anti-games.>>740456712>caring about fps in 2026Is it 2007 again? Where were you faggot when all the PS360 games were tanking performance? Complaining about Wii instead?
>>740451408it's shit>atrocious and ghosting IPS screen instead of an OLED>battery capacity on par with phones despite being a fucking gaming handheld >technologically primitive unergonomic remote shaped controllers >soc from 2020 featuring a CPU so bad that every phone released within the last 8 years rapes it because it's running at 1 ghz and a work harder not smarter GPU that's on ancient silicon and is only efficient because it runs at fucking 500mhz in handheld and has way more cores than it should to compensateNothing about it is good
>>740457852It has no games and shitty framerates thougheverbeit
>>740460092>unergonomic remote shaped controllersfits fine in my hands, maybe try holding them
>>740459982>all Nintenchads are also Steamchads.Speak for yourself, cultist.
>>740459089He's not wrong; follow ups after a massive success rarely surpass it. PS2 is an anomaly in several regards, only time will tell if Switch 2 becomes another anomaly.
>>740460138it clearly does have games, because they outsell the slop sony and Xbox put out every week
>>740460020ESL gtfo
>>740459747>what on earth did you mean by this3rd parties doing everything the can to avoid putting games on nintendo systems, you know this already
>>740460235I dont, because its not happening. third parties are moving to S2 in droveswhat alternative universe are you living in?
>>740460020No retard, it's 2026, we have more beautiful and responsive screens than ever and you defend your blinders because your master is regressing to 30 fps
>>740460235So, ten years ago? The only company you're describing is CyberConnect.
>>740459809>things have changed since you left.>Wii U didn't see third parties favor>Switch rarely saw anything beyond low effort posts>Switch 2 has, once again, no exclusive from themNothing as changed beside 3rd parties being more at risk than ever before
It's annoying how these retards can have threads crting how they are persecuted like jews and at the same OPs like this, truest zionist behavior.
>>740460226NO.
>>740460368>Switch 2 has, once again, no exclusive from themoh, is this the part where we pretend third party support only counts if theyre exclusive?
>>740460368>>Switch 2 has, once again, no exclusive from them>does he know
>>740453797>literal walking sims with no fail state, aka movieshit>goodPeople liking Pokopia and Tomodachi life will forever confuse me, just like seeing people enjoy Uncharted and TLOU.
>>740460296>>740460343>the only exclusives so far on S2 are Nintendo IPsNothing has changed.>CC2Did the CEO take his head out of his ass finally? Did they put one exclusive in the leading platform by now?
>>740460368Oh, so now they have to be exclusives. Way to move those goal posts.
>>740460507not one of those games is a walking sim
>>740460449>oh, is this the part where we pretend third party support only counts if theyre exclusive?>buying 3rd party multiplats>Implying they matter for a game systemAlways have been this way; this is why PS2 is a stellar console.
>>740460609>>Implying they matter for a game systemthats literally all xbox and playstation have
>>740460194It clearly doesn't though
>>740460559Then why did they literally advertise Yoshi's game as being super casual, without being able to die? How is that fun?
DESU I bought a Switch 2 on day 1 (i honestly dont know why) and all I did was play the new mario kart that is worse than double dash, and i played tears of the kingdom and realized its worse than breath of the wild. I did beat super mario 3d world a wii u game. Had fun with it, even. But yeah wasn't worth the money genuinely haven't touched it in like 8 months. Nintendo doesn't make games anymore.
>>740460649sure it does, you just dont count them because you only care about LGBT cinematic experiences
>>740460449>Oh postingfuck off niggerdeen.
>>740460546>nowAlways have been. You only, either, choose to forgot in gen 7 or were gaslight'd into>>740460641And the exact same reason why they have been shit for decades. Xbox far more noticeable due completely ignoring exclusives made by themselves.
>>740460609And guess what, the Switch 2 has amazing 3rd party support now.
>>740460698>sure it doesNo it doesn't>you just dont count them because you only care about LGBT cinematic experiencesYou're right, I don't care about faggotslop like Trannydachi kek
>>740460676because the game is centered around interacting with the fauna and wildlife in the game, not killing things
>>740460676Because they hid the fact that you're supposed to solve incredibly esoteric puzzles and use outside the box thinking. It works really well.
>>740460686>Not waiting for the OLED revisionJUST>>740460726>CP77>SF6 >Most of the decent line up are game cards What amazing 3rd party support? You only could think that because you went from starving to eating reheated leftovers.
>>740460761it does, in fact you just named a game they have, lol
>>740460813>Most of the decent line up are game cardsThrowing in another specific element, are we?
>>740460829LGBT cinematic Mii shovelware for fat women =/= games
>>740460686Why didnt you play bananza?
>>740460790>>740460768>akshually the game has amazing 500 IQ puzzles that require incredible thinking!
>>740460813Post your Armored Core 6 playtime, sealiontranny.
>>740460768>not killing thingsActually...to finish the game you have to break quite a few eggs, this Yoshi is brutal and the Book is a psycho.
>>740460883Keycards became an issue with good reason.
>>740460918that isnt even what I said, Why do you seethe so much about pouzzle games existing?
>>740460909because he doesn't actually own the system.
>>740460149>CultistOf Nintendo or Valve?
>>740460918>the first thing that comes to his mind when he reads "hard puzzles" is fearSorry you are dumb anon
>>740460920I haven't even started the first one.>>740460925And then they dare to call it baby game lol
>>740460989Valve. Ready to pay for your fat lord's next boat?
>>740460952it's only an issue to retards. are you retarded, anon?
>>740461015Well it kinda is, which makes it even more shocking that you need to kill to finish the game.
>>740460686Lmao nogger they just came out with yoshi. Splatoon and starfox this month too.
>>740461047>it's only an issue to retards>t. digitalcuck
>>740460985ugh do i actually have to dox myself and take a picture of my switch 2 collecting dust? i will. i promise you there are thousands of people just like me who buy the shiny new thing and realize it's disappointing and hollow because consumers aren't actually your friends trying to give you innovative new experiences.
>>740461121>acting like PC isn't all digital.
>>740461115>you live an era where people associate cartoonish artstyle and chil game pace as baby tierGen 7 did irreparable damage to gaming
>>740461162>I thought myamoto was gonna descend from the heavens and suck my dick man what a rip
>>740461162sounds like you are retarded and bad with your money.stay poor.
>>740451859>It can't be pirated or emulatedYet. Nintendo's fixation on making underpowered hardware all but guarantees you can eventually play everything on PC.
>>740461013>>740460974A puzzle game with no challenge is not a game at all. It's movieshit. God of War has """"puzzles"""" which involve you putting a ball in a cup-shaped indent. Should we praise it as a revolutionary masterpiece? It already has nothing in the gameplay department, if the puzzles can't even carry it, then what does it have?
>>740461305>A puzzle game with no challengethats definitely not yoshi's mysterious book. But you havent played it, so you wouldnt know of course
>>740461203And it sucks because of it. Also>implying everyone uses a PC to play games
>>740461294Two more weeks
>>740461354we already realized that you only use your PC to post on 4chan.
>>740461265hell i wish. at least a corporation will fuck you in the ass if you pay them. a woman will do it for free but i digress.
>>740461118starfox and yoshi both look terrible.
Its this game, OP
>>740461412>You use PC only to browse internetOne of its 2 intended purposes by god's desing. You're free to cope while I research psychology.
>>740461449yoshi's book looks great, dunno what game youre looking at
>>740461348Then please, regale us with a supposed 500 IQ puzzle that separates Yoshi from every other game in existence.
>>740461461Woops
the responses from seething browns and poors only prove >>740451859 right.
>>740461449Yoshi looks great, Star Fox isn't; both because of the artstyle only.
>>740461515>if its not a 500 IQ puzzle that requires scratch paper and pen, theres no challengewhat a bitter, stupid life you lead
>>74045140830fps and no good exclusives.
>>740461521>borderline perfect roundnessBased Sakurai.
>>740461567Yes. BOTWsnoys shat on the entirety of every zelda that came prior to their game because the puzzles weren't La Mulana tier. Now your elitism has come back to bite you. Oopsy daisy!
>handheldi keep it docked. I love this little fucking thing though, can't wait for Splatoon Raiders and tht stupid weeb game granblue something, i preordered both.
>>740451408Dunno about "mad", but for me:>shit-tier, ancient battery for no reason, making it hard to call it "portable">wide and tall instead of thick, meaning it's not even portable despite that being a feature of the system>power hungry, old-ass screen for no reason, also eating the battery>"Switch 2 upgrade" versions of Switch 1 games chug the battery hard as hell for almost no reason>all of the above preventing me from wanting to get one as a Switch 1 upgrade system like I was originally planning to (we'll see about a Switch 2 Lite. Fingers crossed.)I don't give a fuck about docking the system, which makes for a big chunk of the reasons why I wouldn't want one, it's shit-tier as a handheld.Bonus shit:>no games that call out to me yet (eyeing the new Pokemon though, even though I expect it to be shit.)>Prime 4 was ass>costs too much to justify buying it yet, and the price is going up, not down>GKCs existing at all pisses me off>sticks still aren't hall effect>no plans for a new Smash or upgrade ports of previous Smash games>no RPGs I haven't already played announced AFAIK>>740460092>on par with phonesThat one there pisses me off the most, the battery in the Switch 2 is like 1Ah more than what's in the Switch 1 despite all that extra power. Why the FUCK did they do that?
>>740461641oops, you made up a scenario in your head again and used it as a boast, try your luck next time
i had a lot of fun with donkey kong bananza
>>740461305>A puzzle game with no challenge is not a game at all. It's movieshit.Not quite. Movieshit is streamlined and shallow due linearity, Yoshi requires added exploration and experimentation in order to solve its puzzles; this compensates not being challenging puzzles (which isn't an issue by itself) since it proposes something different/interesting to it.
>>740461586>Mario Kart World>Bananza>Kirby Air Riders >Yoshi and the Mysterious book
desu ur allowed to enjoy the switch 2 but the people complaining about it arent wrong. the console is capable of 1080p 120fps for basically all first-party titles but nintendo refuses to do that. because muh 4k upscaled 30 fps is the next step in gaming! retarded as fuck. and yes, the switch 2 has a shitty catalogue so far. id argue its STILL A botw and totk machine. the 60 fps is amazing for these games and they look beautiful. hell they probably could've given us 90 fps. a lot of these games are just so BORING. they bring nothing new to the table.
>>740461248...I like the game, a lot, it surprised me how good it is I wasn't really expecting a lot from it, the game appeals to kids but it is also extremely fun, I've been playing it for a week and I've only fully researched like 5 mobs.>>740461305It has difficulty, you haven't played it.
>>740451408it has - uniquely among all current platforms aside from PC - good games
>>740451859>grr! i hate this company so much I'm going to go out of my way to emulate every game they've released!Basically this. Antis see emulation as moral grandstanding against a company they actively despise and get more ammo to complain.
>>740461661>eyeing the new Pokemon though, even though I expect it to be shiti will never understand how out of all the shit that a game company announced, you go straight for something like Pokemon. I don't get why everyone else does this either, and even goes as far to say that it would be "the only game the [nintendo system]" has. Pokemon, of all things.
>>740461703>Movieshit is streamlined and shallow due linearityWhich describes Yoshi. No fail state = no fun. Fuck movie games.
If it ain't PC it ain't fo' me
>>740461703Some are kinda difficult, specially those involving killable enemies that you need for research, also destroyable platforms.
>>740461951>No fail state = no funyou havent played it, so your post is irrelevant
>>740461951>no fail stateYou haven't played it.
>>740461661I completely forgot about the Switch LiteYeah...if all i want is a bettee portable experience then thats the way to go, the die shrink is mandatory though for efficiency
>>740461972>>740462019>>740462032>God of War: Yoshi Edition is totally good>no I won't explain how>it just isYou tried this bullshit with Metroid Prime 4.
Customers hate Nintendo because they have turned anti-customer by enshittifying the Switch 2 with a terrible ToS. Even moreso that Nintendo bans systems that play used games because they claim used games are piracy. Also Gamechat records your sessions to be reviewed by Nintendo if you get reported for saying naughty words. Also Switch 2 is $500 so poor people hate Nintendo, hate everything about Nintendo, hate everything Nintendo believes in, and hate everything Nintendo stands for. According to grifters Nintendo is the cancer that's killing video games because Nintendo is doing everything the competition is doing to lose customers. Also the new president of NoA is a woke feminist. And NoA bans uncensored Japanese games from western markets. Also Nintendo fans are a cult that must be "delt with".Did I get everything Eric?
>>740462161>god of war: Yoshi editionwhat on earth did you mean by this
>>740461427>looks
>>740461776I'm not interested in casual racing or sandbox games.
>>740461794>1080plmao it's 2026 unc
>>740462336what are you interested, in then
>>740462216Much like God of War, Yoshi doesn't care about providing an insightful or challenging experience. It's just pretty visuals and grade school """puzzles""" designed for extremely young audiences. If God of War and TLOU and Uncharted are bad games because they don't care about actually challenging the player, then why should any game be considered good if it doesn't care about asking the player to struggle or think? Nintendo hasn't made a single game fitting that description in at least 15 years.
>>740462384>Yoshi doesn't care about providing an insightful or challenging experienceI had a challenging experience, sounds like a you problem
>>740453515Fucking retard>$650 PS5>$900 PS5 Pro>$650 XSX>PC Parts being sold well above MSRP and CPUs are projected to be the next component that balloons in priceGiven how crazy price hikes for hardware has become, why the FUCK should games be made for the next generation when high-end current gen hardware is not getting cheaper? At some point, a line has to be drawn on the sand with the amount of power devs need to make games that run properly. They have all the tools in the world to make beautiful games that can run on toasters, but instead they ship out incomplete games with piss poor performance. If they cannot make grand games with hardware that's available, then they should not be making games to begin with. Switch 2 forcing devs to optimize their games is a good thing for you, retard. It means there'll be less games like MH Wilds or Black Myth Wukong that could barely hit 60fps on a 4090. There'll be more games that would run at 4k/120fps+ on high end hardware while also looking good. The Switch 2 isn't stopping Capcom nor Square-Enix. No excuses.
>>740462426He'll just call you a toddler it's sealionfag
>>740462384>Nintendo hasn't made a single game fitting that description in at least 15 years.IDK, Metroid Dread and WarioWare fit that to me. Especially GIT.
>>740462476>Metroid DreadLOL
>>740462647QTEs aside, yes.
>>740462647CLASSIC sealionpost your AC6 playtime
>>740462336One is a platformer.
>>740462161Eh? It has been explained to you, the game has 6 themed worlds, each one has several creatures you need to research, it doesn't have a clear objective, you need to figure out what to do, the levels are relatively small but they are packed with stuff to do, you can use the coins you find to "predict" an objective which is a vague abstract of it and pay more to get a hint which is its description, you still need to figure out what to do and how, some have fail states and most don't even tell you if you have met them so you need to restart the level.
>>740462776Technically that's half the game. There's more chapters unlocked past the main story.
>>740461883I was born in 89. Pokemon will always catch my eye, even if I haven't actually PAID for one since USUM.Worst case scenario, I leech off leaks and releases to look at the new Pokemon and see if any come close to the goddess that is Meowscarada.Best case scenario, I visit my parents, hand my mom like $600 and have her pick up a Switch 2 + Pokemon WiWa whatever for me with her employee discount, then spend all day visiting them and come back home and start playing.Pic related, had too much sex with Meowscarada and now she's sore.
>>740462776>have flowey give you a flower crown>feed the flowey an apple>take it to flowers of its color>it puts on a crown>sit next to it while it walks back and forth among flowers>never gives me a crown
>>740462865Really? I just found the bird but wanted to get all the research done before I tackled it.
>>740462776>>740462865And where is the challenge?
>>740462971Figuring out how to fill every page of a creatures book entryor in some cases, how to make rocks in the level break when your groundpound and egg throws do nothing
>>740462971where's your Armored Core 6 playtime?
>>740462971In figuring out how to complete the vague objectives
>>740462971ARF! ARF! ARF!
>>740459192Does anyone know if the Pro Controller 2 will work on Cemu? And how does it work on Steam? Only with Steam Input (that reduces HD rumble quality right?)
>>740463056>>740463086But that's not challenging. It's like saying "Ocarina of Time requires a masters degree because you need to push a rock onto a button."How have people's standards gotten so low?
>>740463248Please enlighten us. what games do you play? and no cop out answers.
>>740463248>no it's unconventional so it doesn't count>REEEEEEEE WHY DID NINTENDO ALWAYS MAKE THE SAME GAMESSealionfag you're ridiculous
>>740462382Resident Evil, FromSoft, RPGs, metroidvanias, those kinds of things. I was looking at maybe getting a Switch 2 for Metroid Prime 4, but then it turned out to be open-world with Marvel-quipping characters and mediocre reviews, so that put a real damper on it. I would definitely have gotten one just for the Duskbloods if it hadn't been multiplayer.Overall the first-party lineup just feels like stuff you could find in the $25 cozy indie section of Steam, but with more polish and licensed characters.
>>740463248>"Ocarina of Time requires a masters degree because you need to push a rock onto a button."That implies the objective in Yoshi is right in of you, and the activation function is right alongside it. And that you have the capabilities of interacting with either them the moment you see them.
>>740463248Except no one said that? It's like >>740462898 saidEven if you get the hint, it doesn't guarantee you'll complete the objective, it often asks you to complete a chain of events and sometimes doing them out of order locks you out of it.
>>740463381So Adventure games? You would like Raiders.
jesus christ you guys are retarded. nintendo really is where the sheep flock huh?
>>740463326I mentioned La Mulana earlier, it was one of my favorite puzzle games because you had to write down shit. You had to figure out puzzles that spanned multiple areas, including their respective backsides. You even had to figure out how the levels are operated on a 5x5 grid, so you could figure out things like where you needed to chant the mantras to anchor Mother's soul to the ruins. >>740463414>>740463429In comparison, nothing in Yoshi even comes close. In La Mulana you're also at risk of constantly dying from everything, from enemies to hazards. That risk of actually getting killed made it fun. But i guess that's too videogamey for modern audiences.
>>740463481the only sheep are the Nintendo haters.
>>740463491la mulana is nothing like yoshis' book, Im not sure why youre comparing them
>>740461357Or 100. It's kinda inevitable.
>>740463546One is a puzzle game that isn't afraid of being incredibly difficult while still being a video game, the other is a movie starring Yoshi.I guess you're right. They're pretty much nothing alike.
>>740463481You misspelled steam
>>740463491Imagine being this dumb
>>740463679la mulana isnt a puzzle game, and it plays completely different from yoshi's book. Once again, you dont know anything about the game youre complaining about and your nitpicks with the game are incredibly obvious
>>740463679>One is a puzzle game that isn't afraid of being incredibly difficult while still being a video game>implying they can be seperatethis goes against your entire schtick
>>740463801>>740463749>implying they can be seperateYoshi proves that you can fail at being a puzzle game by having extremely trivial puzzles that require no thought.Why not just acknowledge that the game could use some more difficulty? Why die on this hill of defending casualization?
>>740463890>by having extremely trivial puzzles that require no thought.they do have thought. You havent played it, obviously, and yet you keep making claims that jusdt prove how stupid you are
>>740463960You keep claiming that the game is some masterpiece of puzzle design, yet you haven't even bothered to post an example outside of >>740462898, which is baby shit that requires no thought.Tell me, is there even a puzzle in Yoshi's game that requires you to spend hours across multiple parts of the game, writing esoteric clues down? I've yet to experience even a single puzzle that even compares to the beginner puzzles you'd find in La Mulana.
>>740464153no one fucking claimed that ACfaggot.
>a year into its life and we have pokopia, mkw, and bananzabros...come on.
Long story short; Wii U did poorly and people were thinking that this would be the instance in which Nintendo would go third party. Switch came out and completely demolished all expectations and succeeded wildly and that made some people mad as fuck. Now Switch 2 is looking to make approximately similar levels of success akin to how the 3DS did compared to the DS at minimum along with other statements other anons said.
>>740461587kirby's arm looks like a n64 model
>>740464153
>>740464153>is there a part of yoshi's game that requires [doing something that isnt what the game is about at all]I feel like I'm talking to a brick wall at this point, except even the brick wall would have the decency to not keep making stupid posts like this
>>740464153so your criteria of having a good puzzle game is if you spend a realllllllly long time on it, and have to spend hours writing shit down? Guess Super Paper Mario is a great puzzle game, then. Fuckin' idiot doesn't know what he's talking about.
>>740464270that's what he does. it's why people call him sealiontranny.
>>7404641986 years into the PS5's lfie and we haveuh...
>>740464278>>740464301>>740464270>>740464265>>740464191Then it's not good game. It's really hard to defend the casualization of the medium. Let me put it this way: is there a reason why Yoshi couldn't have puzzles AND difficult combat on par with Silksong?
>>740464448I'm sorry that your brain is so smooth that it takes you hours to solve a puzzle.
>>740464448> defend the casualization of the mediumif anything, its one of the best expressions of the genre. What other games forces you to interact with the levels this much>AND difficult combat on par with Silksongbecause its nothing like silksong? why do you keep comparing it to completely different kinds of games?
>>740464448Since when did you have to write shit down in Silksong?
>>740464504i was referring to the combat. Silksong doesn't advertise itself as a puzzle game. Although even its world is more interesting than whatever Yoshi tries to show off.>>740464503>What other games forces you to interact with the levels this muchAgain, why care about supposed interaction if it's a snoozefest? Where's the intense combat?
reminder that sealiontranny is the type of sociopathic retard who thinks that being able to kill everyone in a game is good game design.
>>740464639>should I pick a fighting, CAG or adventure game for its combat? >NO, I will pick this puzzle game
>>740464639>i was referring to the combat. Silksong doesn't advertise itself as a puzzle game. Although even its world is more interesting than whatever Yoshi tries to show off.What you said doesn't address anything of what I said in >>740464278 at all.
>>740464701>want good combat AND good puzzles>game like La Mulana already gives me that, and lets me interact with the environment in fun and meaningful waysNot sure why you have to choose between them.
All i want is to talk comfy misc Switch 2 things and theres a whole discord fight going on :(
>>740464794la mulana plays nothing like mysterious book, and its not a puzzle game, and Mysterious book never focuses on combat. Again, youre retarded and dont even understand how the game plays
>>740464771If a game doesn't expect you to put alot of effort into the puzzles, instead of basic surface level shit, then it's not a good puzzle game. AND you shouldn't have to sacrifice combat or other elements.
>>740464808who are you replying to?
>>740464851>If a game doesn't expect you to put alot of effort into the puzzlesmysterious book's entire gimmick is the puzzles, retard
The only thing that made me mad about it was the fact that it's what the Switch 1 should have been 9 years ago specswise
>>740451859>exclusivesWhere are they lmao
>>740464912bu-but they aren't the kind of puzzles I want. I want a nebulous, arbitrary kind of puzzle!
>>740464851>If a game doesn't expect you to put alot of effort into the puzzles, instead of basic surface level shit, then it's not a good puzzle gameSo are you admitting that you consider Super Paper Mario is a good puzzle game? You have to go across levels to solve for certain puzzles.>combatSPM has that.
speaking of autists
>speaking of autists
uh oh, he's sperging out
>>740464912So why did it have to sacrifice combat?>>740464968You know what, yes. I will gladly praise Super Paper Mario over Yoshi's Mysterious Book simply because it at least has bloody fail states. Proper fail states. It feels like a video game instead of some weird walking sim.It's a worse version of the original Paper Marios, but what can you do?
>>740464960exactly. I own one of these damn things and all they can respond with is>but but but the ps5!!!!bro. idont fucking care. it's been a year. release something.
>uh oh, he's sperging out
>>740465153and then we post a list only for you to go "those don't count". we've done this song and dance hundreds of times before
>>740465146>So why did it have to sacrifice combat?because its a puzzle game. I've told you this 3 times now, is there some word here youre not understanding?
>>740465153They'd almost have a point if botw 3 were out even though it'd probably be garbage, but the best they have is this
>>740465146why does it NEED deep combat if it is a puzzle game based on ecology?
>>740465146>You know what, yes. I will gladly praise Super Paper Mario over Yoshi's Mysterious Book simply because it at least has bloody fail states. Proper fail states. It feels like a video game instead of some weird walking sim.Uh huh. The fail states that become irrelevant because of 1-Up Mushrooms. Those fail states really do make up for the shittiest, bloated puzzles I've seen in a "video game". ALSO the puzzles themselves don't even have fail states like Yoshi does. You absolute larper.
>173 repostsYIKES
>>740465260tell us exactly what is wrong with this webm.
>>740465314he cant
>>740465208a list? I can count on one fucking hand: hyrule warriors, bananza, mkw, pokopia.>>740465260>botw3don't fucking joke, lad. I've had botw fatigue since that shit stain dropped.
>>740465314I already did many times but you conveniently chose to ignore my points, therefore I have accepted your concession in advance
i'm looking through dildos on aliexpress and the recommendations have a lot of nintendo products
>>740465242>>740465269>>740465295You keep arguing on this implication that puzzle games are not allowed to have combat because it would somehow ruin the puzzles or something, when you keep getting examples otherwise.Why isn't La Mulana a puzzle game, for example? How does it having combat make it ineligible for being a puzzle game?
>>740465369I wish it were a joke. The past 2 games sold too well so get ready for 12 years of botw 3 and 4
I never thought we'd get a designated Mysterious Book schizo
>>740465497>puzzle games are not allowed to have combatwhere did I say that? Are you making things up yet again?
>>740465369here you go because I'm not typing them all out.
>>740465452Any dilators? I'd imagine they'd sell pretty well
>>740465497What did my comment here >>740465295 have anything to with what you said?
>>740465497>Why isn't La Mulana a puzzle game, for example?because its about platforming through tombs and fighting monsters, like a chibi castlevania
>>740465557no, a few speculums though
>>740465531it's ACfaggot. he doesn't like any game that doesn't allow him to murder everything.
>>740451408It's a disappointment. It, and modern Nintendo in general, should be so much better than they are.
>>740465606Which also features puzzles. I guess puzzle games CAN have combat and fighting and not just be cakewalks for children. Infact, according to steam, one of La Mulana's most relevant tags is "puzzle game". Now isn't that just a kettle of fish?
Yoshi is more of an exploration game than a puzzle game. Puzzles imply you have all the pieces. Yoshi is about looking for those puzzle pieces.
>>740453364What are the games
>>740465773>not just be cakewalks for childrenyou keep saying this, and yet you have no understanding whatsoever of how yoshi's book plays, so I dont get why youre calling it a cakewalk
>>740465813>>740465549
>>740464448Holy fuck Nintendo has been gaping your anus continuously for over a decade now
>>740465828The highlight of the puzzles that you yourself posted was "wait around until something happens." Nobody is trying to kill you, you're not trying to avoid death. It's boring.>>740465778see pic related.
>>740465549Nice bloated list, retard. The only decent games on that list are Air Riders and Bananza which are 7.5's at best. No one is dying to emulate those games.
>>740466002>those dont countits so tiresome
>>740466002>doesn't countthanks for proving me right, jackass.
>>740465962>The highlight of the puzzlesbeg your pardon?
>>740465828just stop replying to him. you'll never convince him. you'll never reach an agreement. you are just wasting your time.
>won't respond directly to >>740465604 because he genuinely can't answer, so he just lumps it with all the other mass (you)'s as a non-response.Pathetic.
>>740466031>>740466042>Star fox 64 remake number 4 countsNPC (Nintendo Persecution Complex) replies
>>740465549>shovelware>shovelware>okay cartoony game for kids>shovelware>obligatory mario rehash #123>obligatory other mario rehash #324>shovelware>okay cartoony game for kids>shovelwareGrim.
>>740466231>>740466249you just keep proving me right.
>>740466231>remake #4very sad that you think being retarded is some kind of gotcha
>>740466089see>>740462898Is this supposed to be fun?>>740465604Super Paper Mario's "puzzles" are legitimately not as pathetic as Yoshis.
>>740466332yes, because its not the only puzzle for floweyswhich you'd know, if you played even one level of the game
>>740466298You keep ignoring the truth but it just makes you look more and more like a cultist. Keep digging your own grave, cattle
>>740466332>Super Paper Mario's "puzzles" are legitimately not as pathetic as Yoshis.how would you know? you havent played the game
>>740466280i mean, a handful of those games are shovelware. a few aren't released yet.if we call crappy half assed games exclusives, i imagine the ps5 has quite a bit.
>>740466417>the truth>only remake is on the 3DSnope, doesnt seem that way at all actually
>>740466443there you go again.
>>740466380stop replying to him
>>740466380>>740466440>"you never played it!">no, we will not post examples of puzzles, or explain any of them in depth>just take our word for it
>>740466562>I havent played it, have no understanding whatsoever how the game works, but the puzzles are shit and the game is bad>just take my word for it
>>740466332Oh I'm sure. I'm sure that>hit button something amount of timesafter>writing down obnoxiously long codes of just numberswhile also>holding right, and then left, to get through another set of puzzlesis worse than Yoshi. PLEASE give me an example of a puzzle that is more pathetic than all of the Cragnon level in Super Paper Mario that I just described. That one level that you referenced in this post sounds infinitely more appealing than pure busywork in place of substance.
>>740465498>get ready for 12 years of botw 3 and 4>12 more years of seethingI can't wait
>>740466671Can't wait for something else to mog it
>>740466498idk why you niggers can't argue in good faith. the library sucks. In 6 months i'll be decent. shine post isn't even in fucking english.
>>740466443PS5 is a decent multiplat machine, the same cannot be said for the Switch 2. The exclusives are paramount since everything else will be greatly inferior to every other platform.
>>740451408>What is it about this little handled that makes this board so mad?It's made by nintendo. That's literally it.
>>740466774Lmao that's rich coming from you
>>740466814luckily for nintendo, normies and most gamers give zero shits whatsoever about which version is better and play it on their console of choice or PC
>>740466814Why would I play Mina or Silksong on any other console?
>>740466625>have no understanding of how the game worksThis coming from the guy who claims that puzzle games cannot have platforming or combat in them, otherwise they stop being puzzle games? Games are somehow incapable of having multiple elements?>>740466656Still waiting on even one single example of a good puzzle in Yoshi. Meanwhile if I look at a good puzzle game like La Mulana I could name a ton of good puzzles.>figuring out the locations of the mantras>deciphering the secrets of the gate of illusion to discover the hidden paths>discovering the secret of the dimensional corridor, and how it relates to its "backside" the endless corridor>proving your smallness with the mini dollIf you're gonna throw away everything else just to focus on puzzles, then they better be absolutely indepth and require hours of solving just to get through a single one. You threw away the prospect of difficult platforming and combat, so time to compensate.
>>740466930>This coming from the guy who claims that puzzle games cannot have platforming or combat in themoops, you're making things up again. Try again
>>740466959see >>740465242>So why did it have to sacrifice combat?>because its a puzzle gameWhat was meant by this?
>>740466930>Still waiting on even one single example of a good puzzle in YoshiI didn't request that from you, that was the other anon. What I want YOU to do is to give me a level in Yoshi that is WORSE than what I just described in Super Paper Mario. Stop involving me in your other shit fits.
>>740467023it means that combat has never at any point in time been the focal point of a puzzle game
>>740466863Yes, Nintendo's audience has no standards and will overpay for the bright, red N even as better choices exist. They'll even happily pay $25 for the romhack of a single 30-year-old game. It is known.
>>740467078>overpay for the bright, red N even as better choices existoverpay how? $70 is the industry standard for every game
>>740467031The flower crown puzzle is pretty bad, worse than Cragnon. Seems cut and dry.>>740467040That's only true for games that have no idea how to multitask. La Mulana was a puzzle game, and yet it had combat. Good combat at that. FFS, for a minimum of 60 dollars, you expect them to at least match up to a 15 year old indie game.
>>740467192you keep comparing the game to la mulana, even though theyre nothing alike. Is manic mansion an inferior aria of sorrow?
>>740467281La Mulana proves that you can have good combat AND good puzzles. There is nothing stopping Yoshi from having both. You can complain that the games are nothing alike, but I'm using it as an example that having difficult combat and platforming and proper fail states does not detract from the puzzles.
>>740467358>La Mulana proves that you can have good combat AND good puzzlesok, but its not even a remotely similar game>but I'm using it as an example that having difficult combat and platforming youre quite literally comparing two different kinds of games. Should I compare Starcraft and tetris?
Wow, another thread on /v/ where Eric and ACfag/Doug fill up half the thread with generic shitposting about games they never played. Not like this hasn't been happening for the past 10 years by now.
>>740467192>The flower crown puzzle is pretty bad, worse than Cragnon. Seems cut and dryBeing cut and dry is objectively better than a vapid bloated code fetch quest. This just goes back to my original point of why you have dogshit tastes: you would rather have a string bloated marathons along a track with busywork that's there because it fits the theme of a "puzzle game" (despite being a shit puzzle game, actually just a shit game in general),then something that is also a fetch quest, but actually has unique elements to it that have different movement options to it, with actual thinking to interact with it. SPM is genuinely like 15 minute pro longed qte with multiple sections to it, compared to Yoshi being an arcade level.
>>740467118That's like saying $15 is the industry standard for movie tickets, but then one gives you a seat in an IMAX and the other at a backyard projection playing the movie from a DVD.
>>740467593possibly the stupidest analogy I've read on /v/, and I'm arguing with ACfag here
>>740467428>ok, but its not even a remotely similar gameThen highlight the differences, if you may.>>740467554>Being cut and dry is objectively better than a vapid bloated code fetch quest. Seems like your average Yoshi puzzle to me.
>>740467118>>740467634>70$ is the industry standardTime for a new standard, then.
>>740467643okLa mulana is about exploring a tomb, fighting enemies, and solving cryptic riddles from vague signposts. Mysterious book is about interacting with fauna and wildlife in each "chapter" and chronicling your interactionshope this helps, retard kun
>>740467686he didn't say that. he said "$70 is the industry standard"why are you so disingenuous
>>740467732I did actually say that. Not sure what his retarded post is supposed to mean though
>>740467643>>Being cut and dry is objectively better than a vapid bloated code fetch questWhat? Would you call a 15 minute puzzle(the one that one anon talked about) bloated compared to the Cragnon level? Really? Tell me how the latter is not bloated.
>>740467829Oh, the cragnon level is bloated, but Yoshi is even more so. Lesser of the 2 evils. A game without any challenge can really feel like a bloated mess.>>740467710>Mysterious book is about interacting with fauna and wildlife in each "chapter" and chronicling your interactionsAnd why can't this have difficult platforming and combat? Why are they concepts inherently incompatible?
>>740467904because its a puzzle game, not a platforming/combat game. This is the 4th time I've told you this now
>>740467768wrong"70$ is the industry standard" != "$70 is the industry standard"
>>740451408it has game and they dont
>>740467968
Yoshi and the Mysterious Book is an objectively bad game. Fact.
>>740467634You pay the same just to have a relatively shit experience because it's your "preferred console". And while you could technically do the same with a beefy PC compared to PS5 or Xbox, that would cost much, much more, while a Switch 2 is almost the same cost as the others. It's a perfectly apt analogy. Getting a Switch 2 for third-parties is supremely retarded and prime Nintendo, unless all you play is Silksong I guess.
>>740467904>A game without any challenge can really feel like a bloated messSo you find Super Paper Mario challenging?
>>740468025you've never played it. Fact
>>740468025why
>>740468060>, while a Switch 2 is almost the same cost as the othersa switch 2 is in fact NOT nearly the same cost as a PS5 or xbox, my retarded friend
>>740451859FPBP
>>740468067It's more challenging than Yoshi and the Mysterious Book, but that's like saying that piss is better than shit. If I want a good Paper Mario game, I'll play the N64 version with romhacks. If I want a good puzzle game, I'll play La Mulana like said before. >>740467952>because its a puzzle game, not a platforming/combat game.A good puzzle game would include all of those elements and not sacrifice one to appease the others.
>>740468194>A good puzzle game would include all of those elements and not sacrifice one to appease the others.tetris doesnt have any combat or platforming, actually. try again
>>740468081I don't play objectively bad games.
>>740468257you never played it, so how would you know its bad?
>>740468145It's about 80% of the cost here, that's pretty close.
>>740468194>It's more challenging than Yoshi and the Mysterious Book, but that's like saying that piss is better than shitExplain how its more challenging. What I said wasn't a challenging level, unless you consider abhorrent level design challenging. Cite an example.
>>740451408Because It has the GREATEST games of the generation.
>>740468285hmmmmm nope, not really
>>740468223If it was proven that you could incorporate all of those elements into a seamless game, then yes the original Tetris would no longer have an excuse to omit them if whoever owned it decided to make sequels.>>740468292Fail states, my man.
>>740468349>yes the original Tetris would no longer have an excuse to omit them if whoever owned it decided to make sequelsnot only did tetris have sequels, but adding either of those elements would change the game entirely., Do you even know what tetris is?
>>740468349>Fail states, my man.I've already stated how those fail states are useless, man. Give me an instance where SPM challenged you. Not a game mechanic. Please.
>>740468407Do you acknowledge them as sequels? Unless they're the exact same game over and over again, they add new content, don't they? According to you, if it's not a 1:1 recreation of the original, then it's not Tetris. They're not allowed to add in stuff and multitask, remember?>>740468475SPM never really challenged me.
>>740468563>According to you, if it's not a 1:1 recreation of the original, then it's not Tetrisdo you think making up things that I said somehow helps you win arguments?
>>740468601>Yoshi cannot have combat because it is a puzzle gameDid you say this or not? Do you agree with the notion?
>>740468641>Did you say this or not?no, I in fact never said that. Mysterious book has combat and platforming
>>740468563>SPM never really challenged me.Ok. So you're basing any amount of challenge off of a game mechanic. That almost every game (including Yoshi's Book)has. Nothing else. Because that's the only amount of "challenge" that you cite that game having. A game over screen that you will most likely never interact with if you have ever played a video game before.
>>740451408I wanted a better system and the year 1 games sucked.
>>740468346If you average it out over the lifespan of the console it's nothing. If you'd rather have shitty framerates, 720p, garbage shading and pixelated hair in all games over the next 7 years or however long you're gonna use the console, rather than invest that small difference, you are an idiot and prime target for Nintendo. So I guess it all makes sense.
>>740468676That's not what you said here >>740465242>>740468714If Yoshi wasn't being pretentious and had traditional difficulty, instead of throwing it out to appeal to children, then I wouldn't harp on it so much.In a video game, the ability to die should be ever-present. Comfy games are a cancer and a scourge.
>>740451408No games. Show the fucking Direct already Nintendo.
>>740468789yes yes, you only like games that let you live out your psychopathic tendencies. killed any cats lately?
>>740468789>dieDying is not the only traditional fail state. Neither is a game over screen. Sometimes, you just go through the restart level sequence of shame.In every Yoshi level, you can get a fail state. So it is ever present in that game.
>>740468789I dont see anything in my post saying yoshi cant have combat. I said tis not the main focus, because its not. You are clearly illiterate and retarded
I'm tired of all the comfy shit. The upgrade packs also hurt the year one lineup
>>740468947That's like saying that God of War is a good game because, if you wait 5 minutes, eventually you can fail a QTE. Even by whatever metric you try to use, it's still not good enough. It's not even the baseline that a good game should be held to.>>740469062You said that combat had to be sacrificed for the sake of puzzles. That's just not true. You don't have to sacrifice actual, proper fail states for puzzles. That's fallacious reasoning based on ignorance of other games in the genre.
>>740469147>You said that combat had to be sacrificed for the sake of puzzlesno, I in fact did not say that
>>740469185>why did combat have to be sacrificed>because it's a puzzle gameThen what did you mean by this?
>>740457420I hate sonyboys so much.
>>740469231it means that youre an illiterate retard who makes up things that I said to try to make a point
>>740455096Considering the shitty sales of basically every single non-bundled first party game on the platform, especially when compared to the switch 1, it's not just you. Despite how the seething tendies cope.
>>740454395Being a pctard and being brown goes hand in hand
>>740469261Then what DID you say?
>>740469308Not much better on the ps5. It's all nogs and spics
>>740469147>That's like saying that God of War is a good game because, if you wait 5 minutes, eventually you can fail a QTEI didn't say that. I'm simply trying to disceen your opinions about Super Paper Mario, and how it exposed how bullshit your whole schtick is. And by the way, 5 minutes is also how long it would take for you to die in SPM, because of how overtuned you are at the end of that fucking game. With Yoshi, it's an instant kill/no second chances, start over fuck wad. This is comparing both games at their highest difficulty.
>>740469350I said its a puzzle game focused on interacting with the fauna and wildlife. Are you retarded AND alzheimers-riddled
>>740468819>No gamesThat can't be it because every game that gets announced for the switch 2 makes the board seethe even more
>>740469412I don't even like Super Paper Mario, just using it as an example of how a proper fail state makes it better than Yoshi.>>740469419>I said its a puzzle game focused on interacting with the fauna and wildlife.La Mulana does that too. It doesn't sacrifice difficulty in combat or platforming. Not sure why Yoshi can't handle it.>but they're not the sameThen prove it. Prove that all of the puzzles in La Mulana just don't exist.
>>740469602your fundamental misunderstanding of how Mysterious book plays makes me think you are genuinely special needs
>>740451408not getting a switch 2 until it gets cracked
>>740469639>still doesn't explain how the puzzles are somehow 500 IQ masterpieces>Can't even show off a single supposedly good puzzle>can't fathom that combat can co-exist with puzzle solving and platformingYour insults fall flat.
>>740469602>I don't even like Super Paper Mario, just using it as an example of how a proper fail state makes it better than YoshiAnd that's what I'm arguing against. You saying that already makes you a retard, and I'm 99% sure you know that already because of your cut and dry responses, but I want you to answer me this: >And by the way, 5 minutes is also how long it would take for you to die in SPM, because of how overtuned you are at the end of that fucking game. With Yoshi, it's an instant kill/no second chances, start over fuck wad. This is comparing both games at their highest difficulty.Which of these do you prefer? Considering you, obviously, have played SPM.
>>740469712>still thinks a puzzle needs to be a 500 IQ head scratcher to be a puzzle>still doesn't understand what mysterious book is and wants combat I shouldve listened to that anon, you really are retarded
>>740469639Nta, but yoshi just isn't that good. Let alone worth it's $70 price tag. It's telling that no matter the region there wasn't much discussion on it
>>740461294That applies to everything. The PS4 is emulatable. It simply doesn't have anything exclusive that anyone wants (except BB).
>>740469836how would you know, you didnt play it
Pajeets (the only demographic that Snoy has left), cannot stand the fact that they have no games to play. Snoy hasn't released a game since Bloodborne, like a decade ago, and Nintendo literally won't sell the Switch in SAAARRRland because the street shitters are too third world.
>>740464153>is there even a puzzle in Yoshi's game that requires you to spend hours across multiple parts of the game, writing esoteric clues down?No game in existence has this.
>>740469804I still prefer SPM because it has fail states. Hell, I'd rather play Metroid Prime 4 than Yoshi, since at least that has bloody fail states in it.>>740469808It is because of this that Yoshi does not want to be a video game. >still doesn't understand what mysterious book is It's not a game, that's for sure.
>>740469983>I still prefer SPM because it has fail states. Hell, I'd rather play Metroid Prime 4 than Yoshi, since at least that has bloody fail states in it.I just described a fail state to you. You're the one going>it doesn't countin a loop like a "bloody" bot.
>>740469983it absolutely wants to be a video game, and succeeds at it. Your metal incompetence doesnt change that
>>740469883I can tell from trying the demo out at target. It's like a end of system life game being dumped early. It isn't going to help sell consoles nor is it worth it's asking price. Remember that splatoon and star fox are starting nintendo's new price initiative since game attachment rate is quite low.
>>740470051Nta, but not even the japs really liked it and they go easy on nintendo games
>I played the demo, I'm an expertDid ACfag call for backup? I dont know if I can argue with two retards at the same time
>>740451408Somehow breaking sales records
>>740470051>>740470046>it wants to be a game like Uncharted and God of War>this makes it a good gamehey, I guess that makes FF7 remake a puzzle game too. Look at this 500 IQ puzzle. guess they should remove combat from the game, since puzzles are incompatible with the concept.
>>740470109>Nta, but not even the japs really liked itfamitsu gave it a 35/40
>>740470153>>it wants to be a game like Uncharted and God of Warlook, he's making up posts again
>>740469983So is Pokemon Snap a videogame? Is Wario Land 3 a videogame?
>>740470117Why can't you reply to me honestly? That just proves you're afraid of push back. Fuck me for trying a game out before dropping $70 on it right?
>>740470153Answer the response properly. >>740470046. This is the third time you've done this. Like a bot.
>>740470154Gamers anon, not reviewers. You really don't argue in good faith do you?
>>740470238nono, my retarded friend, fuck you for saying the game is shit because you played a 5 minute demo and consider yourself an expert on it
>>740470282I liked it a lot
>>740470236Not that guy, but those games all have ways to fail and encourage you to get better. Yoshi was made to be as "accessible" and easy as possible as nintendo is still trying to cash in on this comfy shit
>>740470282>those japanese dont count, only the japanese I make up in my head do
>>740470363It's called having an n2 and browsing their videos and posts.
>>740470206Uncharted and God of War don't like the idea of having fail states either. It's practically impossible to lose any of their QTEs. >>740470240your "fail state" barely meets the qualifications of what a good game would quantify it as. It feels like a cope to try and hide how bad the base game is.>>740470236To be honest, Wario Land 3 is not a video game. I'm gonna get hate for that, but the game only starts being a video game during the final boss. Pokemon snap is a weird case. It's not really about combat or puzzles.
>>740470407>its called following randos on social mediagrim
>>740470423uncharted and GoW also play nothing like mysterious book, so I'll add it to your growing collection of retarded examples
>>740470356No, they do not. You cannot lose in Snap. You are entirely invincible and cannot die in Wario Land 3.
>>740470423>To be honest, Wario Land 3 is not a video gameIt's good to know you think that. Now I can write off literally all of your posts as either bait or idiocy.>Snap isn't a puzzle gameI'm thinking idiocy, rather than bait.
>>740470504You can lose in snap. You need a certain amount of points to progress and must get better shots as you play. In wario if you don't learn how to explore and play with the game then you won't get anywhere. Yoshi is trying to be comfyslop first and a game second
>>740470423>your "fail state" barely meets the qualifications of what a good game would quantify it as. It feels like a cope to try and hide how bad the base game isOh, so now it has to be a specific fail state? Not getting all the objectives in an auto scroller level, and having to restart, isn't a fail state? Killing the wrong inhabitant and having to restart, isn't a good enough fail state? The game has to SPOONFEED you that you failed before you have to restart, I see.
>>740470501All three don't want to be video games. They just want to be about storytelling, aka movie games. FFS the game's selling point is reading text and dialogue. I can do that for free on the internet.>>740470576>It's good to know you think that. Now I can write off literally all of your posts as either bait or idiocy.Why?
I miss when we didn't have sunk cost fags defending everything. I like my switch 2 but this year has sucked in terms of games
>>740470623mysterious book has little to no story to speak of. Another stupid post to add to the pile
>>740470356>yoshi where your first instinct is to gobble up enemies>locks you out of completing an objective if you eat the wrong one>to complete an objective you have to give a fork to a shyguy>same shyguy with a fork can kill other shyguys >even if you leave him far away he will walk towards other shyguysThe fail states are very vague and often bizarre The game wants you to fail
>>740451859Jesus christ this place must be packed with browns
>>740470591>In wario if you don't learn how to explore and play with the game then you won't get anywhereJust like in Mysterious Book. In fact, the two systems are basically identical.>You need a certain amount of points to progress Just like you have to make a certain amount of discoveries in MB.
>>740470423>Wario Land 3 is not a video gameIf it's not a video game, please explain what it is ACfag.
>>740470691Not really. It was made to be as easy and appealing to women and children as animal crossing has nintendo going all in casual gaming again. Look at how they evem dumbed down pikmin for this audience. If we're lucky they'll scale back a bit thanks to the poor software attachment rate, but pokopia makes me lose hope in that.
>>740470835>It was made to be as easy and appealing to women and childrenhow would you know? you never played it
>>740470835ntaDawg, you talk like a shareholder replying to someone talking about a video game. You have shareholder brain.
>>740470739I'm sorry. These things are not the same. We're clearly never going to see eye to eye here, but yoshi is made for a far younger/dumber demographic. And I'm someone who believes all video games should be for kids first.
>>740470835Not really what? I described one of the many objectives that you can fail to complete even if you make a single mistake, are you saying I am lying?
>>740470613It's the most pathetic, barebones attempt at a fail state. Like Uncharted killing you if you wait 5 minutes without doing a QTE. >>740470817it's not a video game, that's what I can tell you. Why not include a proper fail state? >>740470691Again, these are uncharted tier """fail states""". Are they even permanent? Like can you be permanently softlocked and have your run be unwinnable if you do any of these? Or can you easily undo these mistakes?Kinda reminds me of other games with failstates, like Silksong, where they include harder difficulties for people who find the base game too easy, such as steel soul mode, which gives you one life, and if you die, everything gets erased. Does Yoshi offer a similar difficulty mode that completely bricks your save if you mess up?
>>740470897It's called being analytical. I see these trends coming after people mass bought animal crossing. At least the switch 2 releases kind of bombing has them reeling a bit. As someone who's loved nintendo since the n64 days their curren5 direction reminds me of the wii days
740470993>>nnnnooo these are not permanentlmao this guy
>>740470993>Like Uncharted killing you if you wait 5 minutes without doing a QTE.Not at all. You exit on your own.You aren't litteraly doing nothing, you can still explore and figure out what you did wrong, then restart. What you're describing is litteraly doing nothing and not playing the game. Though the latter fits you as a person.
>>740471129>You exit on your ownThe game doesn't even have the chutzpah to kill you for making a mistake. You don't even lose progress. Sounds like not a video game.
>>740471225It does tho, not often, but you have to play it first to know what I'm talking about
>>740470917You're free to say anything you want. You cannot die in Wario Land 3 or Mysterious Book. You only lose time or get locked out of a puzzle until you retry the level. You must complete puzzles to progress. You must use the moveset you have to move level elements about, carrying, throwing, attacking, or even being hit by them in the right ways. Some puzzles have timers or minigames you can fail. Just spouting "uh, we have to agree to disagree", is just you failing to admit you don't know anything about either of the games in question. You're claiming 2+2=5, then saying we won't see eye to eye when I tell you it's actually 4.
>>740471225>You don't even lose progress.You do. You have to do everything again, while improving on your mistake. That is, what restarting "bloody" means.
>>740470993>such as steel soul mode, which gives you one life, and if you die, everything gets erasedYeah, and you just easily redo it all. No punishment except a tiny bit of time wasting, exactly like Uncharted.
>>740471318>>740471293>>740471267>if you stand still in Gone Home, it counts as a fail state because you never make it to the atticThrilling. Why did Yoshi have to sacrifice the combat and platforming just for poorly made, and unchallenging, puzzles? That you haven't even posted a single example of, mind you? >>740471376Silksong has amazing combat and platforming, so your example doesn't apply here.
>>740471479whats the point posting an example of the puzzle when you never played the game and have no understanding of what even constitutes a puzzle?
>>740471479It's not a Yoshi's Island game, did you also cry when Yoshi's Safari came out? Yoshi's Cookie? How about Tupsy Turvy, Touch & Go?
>>740471479>Silksong has amazing combat and platformingAnd no true difficulty or failstate, by your own rules. And Uncharted fans believe it has good combat as well.>and platforming It has platforming, you're simply a retard.
>>740471479>>if you stand still in Gone Home, it counts as a fail state because you never make it to the atticIn Yoshi, you can do all kinds of things, but still get the "restart" fail state.
>>740471560Yoshi's Cookie and Safari also have fail states though.
>>740471572Also, the fact that you keep looping back to the "doing nothing" notion, further indicates that this is a bot.
>>740471601>moving the goalpost
Not samefagging, but I'm surprised to see such feverous fags defend a yoshi game. I wonder how it's even doing
>>740471520Still waiting on an example of those supposedly amazing puzzles. >>740471562>>740471572In silksong, the game is about challenging combat and making you master platforming. Yoshi is about puzzles, which aren't even good, and sacrifices everything else. The latter just doesn't want to be a video game.If Yoshi does indeed has fail states that are good enough to justify it being a video game, then it could've easily included combat as well, and the ability to die to things like enemies and hazards.
>>740471673what do I care how its doing?
>>740455096Nintendo might be full of psychotic assholes that throw lawsuits around and act evil for no reason, but calling the switch 1 or 2 a no-games machine is just objectively wrong.
>>740471673I'm bored, someone else is using the s2 to play tomodachi
Yeah, Nintendo won.
>>740471706Yet again. Replying to irrelevant comments. Bot.
>>740471727I can easily call the Ps4 and Ps5 a no games machine, because nothing on it interests me. Why is the Switch or Switch 2 different? Walking simulators and bing bing wahoo are all the same to me.
>>740471848>Walking simulators and bing bing wahoo are all the same to me.that explains your low IQ takes on nintendo games perfectly
>>740471889Even the Nintendo games with proper fail states just aren't that fun, because they lack challenge. Remember when challenge was an important thing in games, instead of games being feel-good touchy feely bullshit?
>>740471956now that the thread is at bump limit, he's going to a different topic to ensure a better footing, despite doing fuck all to explain his jumpy argument
>>740471956>remember when games made you spend more pennies by being artificially difficult
>>740471956yah, like when I played mysterious book. Which you havent
>>740472070No difficulty = not a game. I have no interest in reading text boxes about random bing bing wahoo characters. It's like asking me to pay 60 dollars to read a book, only it's not even that good of a book.
>>740472150>I have no interest in reading text boxes about random bing bing wahoo charactersgood thing thats not what happens in mysterious book
>>740472150>It's like asking me to pay 60 dollars to read a book, only it's not even that good of a book.That is not comparable to what you said not even a paragraph to what you just posted. A bad book is still a book to you, yet a not challenging game is not a game? Are you just saying shit to say shit?
>>740472198Then please, regale us on what you actually do.>>740472259>A bad book is still a book to youEven that's debatable. If the book is just a bunch of coupon clippings with no overarching narrative, kind of like Yoshi's Mysterious Book, then I would struggle to call it a proper book.
>>740472317>Even that's debatable.Then why didn't you say that in your literal 3 sentence post, you fucking retard? You can't even do a low level analogy right.
>>740472376You'll survive.
>>740472460Oh I'm sure I will, don't worry about me, revisionist retard. Revisionist even towards yourself not even a minute ago.
>>740472567All these insults because someone insulted your game for being a walking simulator. Man, what a life. Did you really take such offense?
>>740472150>he thinks Mysterious Book is about readinglmao
>>740472620>walking simulator: :|>walking simulator, Nintendo: :O
>>740472620Wouldn't you feel anger at a utter retard trying to posture as some gamer expert, when he fumbles every other post he makes? Where's your gamer pride?
>>740472687mysterious book isnt anything like a walking sim, no matter how many retarded false equivalencies you make
>>740472662It's not having gameplay, so what is it about?>>740472725My "gamer pride" wouldn't allow me to defend a movie game like Yoshi's Mysterious Book. The idea that a puzzle game has to be casual and for babies just feels wrong.
>>740472728I'm sure you have no bias at all so I'll just take your word on it even though I've seen how the game plays
>>740472825>even though I've seen how the game playsin what? a dunkey video?
>>740472857Let me guess, it doesn't count
>>740472784>My "gamer pride" wouldn't allow me to defend a movie game like Yoshi's Mysterious Book. The idea that a puzzle game has to be casual and for babies just feels wrongI'm not talking about Yoshi. I'm talking about a casual so bad at pretending he's anything more than a casual.
>>740472898correct!
>>740472904>wanting a game to have more difficulty makes you a casualStrange leap of logic you made there, but okay.
>>740472784No, it's actually about reading I was messing with you, oh and also writing an essay to get the best score.
>>740472991Hence why I said you're pretending. As you chose to ignore. At least you're good at repressing criticism...
>>740473097So, by your logic, I'm not a real gamer because I dislike Yoshi and the Mysterious Book. I'm not allowed to want combat or harder gameplay, and I'm supposed to be happy with a 60 dollar walking sim with lame "puzzles" that don't even require thinking.Not following you here. Kinda reminding me of those ps5 threads where people call me a fake gamer for not worshipping the latest God of War or X-men.
>>740473163>a 60 dollar walking sim with lame "puzzles" that don't even require thinking.do you really think making false equivalences and completely failing to understand how a game works is some kind of gotcha to tendies?
>>740473163>So, by your logic, I'm not a real gamer because I dislike Yoshi and the Mysterious BookI didn't say anything about that. Anons in this thread have said they dislike Yoshi with actual substance to back it up. I'm simply saying you're pretending to be a gamer that's all about challenge.
>>740473280>Anons in this thread have said they dislike Yoshi with actual substance to back it up. You accused every single one of them of being a liar. wtf are you on about? Hell the entire thread was just an excuse to circlejerk about snoys and sales.
>>740473447>You accused every single one of them of being a liar.No, I didn't, I simply didn't reply to them. Nothing wrong with they said.
>>740473504Then point to the posts that have criticism that you accept as legitimate.
>>740473536see >>740468025
>>740473818>posts a response where you accused them of having never played itSame exact thing you said to me. Curious! Incase you want to claim that it wasn't your post that responded to that post.
>>740473818you didnt play it, so its not objective at all
>>740473898You have no proof that's me, be real. And they actually did play a demo, so.
>>740473993>a demohilarious that you wear this as a badge of honor
>>740473993So you accept their critique as legitimate because they played a demo. At that point you should accept criticism if someone watches a youtube video of the game.You just sunk your argument to the bottom of the sea.
>>740474025We both know that's more credence that that faggot will ever have.
>>740474091>equating playing a demo to watching a fucking a YouTube videoYou just made yourself even more of a casual, wow.
>>740474154>n-no, I played 5 minutes of the game, my opinion is totally worth anything!!lmao
>>740474154>>740474104>will scream about people having not played the game, but you can shit on a game and call it objectively bad if you play 5 minutes of it
>>740474217>nooooo you can't play a game for an hour and then drop it, you have to buy it firstlmao
>>740474234>b-b-b-but you only played an hour of the game, you CAN'T call it shit! stop! You do know what image I'm about to post, right? Are you really falling for this trap?
>>740474264the demo isnt an hour long, so...
>>740474314I'm not even sure who I'm talking to anymore. The guy I was talking to before said that you need to have extensive knowledge of the game and you need to have played it thoroughly to have an opinion, but then he threw me a curveball and said that I'm the only person ITT who didn't give legit criticism of yoshi. then he linked to >>740468025 and cited it as legitimate critique, despite the guy only having played a demo.I kinda gave up following the argument after that.
>>740474402Not surprised, really seemed like you're operating on fumes after being called out.
>>740474516You don't even know which poster I am. And if you're the guy who legitimately said that you can shit on a game after playing 5 minutes of a demo, after simultaneously saying that you can't critique a game unless you played it thoroughly, then you've completely lost the plot. You literally strangled your own argument. WTF were you thinking?
>>740474667>>740474667>You don't even know which poster I amOh, as if it's at all difficult to guess>>740474234. FYI, I never said you needed extensive knowledge of the game. The guy who played the demo KNOWS the structure of the game by the first three levels of the demo. At least he played the god damn to get a glimpse of the structure/feel of the controls/enemy interaction. Meanwhile you watched a god damn webm and read one anons 5 line post about the game. And YOU acted like that was equal to playing game.What were YOU thinking?
>>740474893>he guy who played the demo KNOWS the structure of the game by the first three levels of the demowhat an extremely stupid thing to say. genuinely mental retardation levels of wrong
>>740474947A FEEL, retard. You can get a feel of a granny game by the first 30 minutes too, and get that's its dogshit by then. Or would you genuinely play an hour of the recent Puppet Combo game to "legitimately" say it's shit?
>>740474893>you can understand the entire game after playing 5 minutes of a demo, AND you can say that the entire game is objectively shit, without elaborating on a single thingkek
>>740475046Hey, I said it was legit, not good.
>>740475028>FEEL, retard. You can get a feel of a granny game by the first 30 minutes tooif there was ever any indication you dont play video games at all, this is the post
>>740475074How can a criticism be legit, but not good? you're just splitting hairs at this point.
>>740475084And you clearly haven't played a truly shit game, either. At least I'm not the one Equalizing a playable demo to playing one. That's far more retarded and anti gamer.
>>740475151>At least I'm not the one Equalizing a playable demo to playing one.what the fuck does that even mean
>>740475129You can make a legit argument, something that adheres to the rules of argumentation. It can still be an absolute abhorrent point that doesn't make sense if you look outside for a second.
>>740475217For something to adhere to the rule of argumentation, it can't be abhorrent and it should make sense, otherwise it's nonsense.
>>740475179I meant equating a playable demo to watching someone else playing said demo.
>>740475279playing a demo and equating yourself to an expert is asinine
>>740475259>nonsenseA nonsense, yet legitimate argument.
>>740475350>you can make a legitimate argument, even if you don't say anything true and nothing you say is founded in realityuhhhhh
>>740475308who said he was an expert, all I'm saying that is he has more of a standing than >>740474091
>>740475416Why?
>>740475413You technically can, yes.
>>740475452Because he played a demo. You watched a video. You don't even know how the game feels. I'd believe the other guy more than you, and I have a 1/1000 chance of believing that guy.
>>740475483No, you can't. That literally goes against the fundamental definition of a sound argument. If nothing you say is true, then nothing about it can be legit.
>>740475542So you can play a 5 minute demo and discard an entire game as "objectively" shit, which means nobody is allowed to like it. Or do you not know the definition of the word "objectively"?
>>740475632You can. I, and you, and most likely everyone wouldn't believe that based off just that, but there's more of a base to it than yours. It's also most likely a shit post.
>>740475747>it's a shitpost>it's also legit criticismAt this point I'm just gonna assume you're either an ESL or a bot.
>>740475786Just because it can be, doesn't mean it is. And besides, a shitpost proved to be more believable than your point anyway.
