How would you have fixed Xenoblade 3, /v/?
Put the cuckold scene closer to the end so you can carry that energy tot he finale.
>>740466757remove Shania
>>740466757Have XBC2's world being nuked. Would have saved 1's world and prevent 3 from ever existing. Saved the fucking franchise.
>>740467484Improve Shania
>>740468378not like that's a high bar
>>740466757do you have anymore shania getting angry. it's insanely hot.
Don't resurrect Shania as a Moebius. Instead actually bring her back as a Keves/Agnus soldier. Ghondor's ascension quest can then be encountering the reborn Shania and seeing how she's changed and how she doesn't recognize Ghondor anymore. Say Ghondor tries to give her some pointers, Ghondor-style, and Shania calls her out for being a cunt. They fight, Ghondor inadvertently kills the less-experienced Shania, who gets reborn yet again. Ghondor then realizes she's been a horrible friend and decides to leave Shania alone from now on, wishing her luck.Also at the end of the game explain how only the people of the Bionis and Alrest will be remade by Origin after the worlds are remade, and the City and all its residents won't come back, cause they were born after Origin recorded souls. Don't just gloss over that.
>>740468530I do, but they're full nudes and they have her hair untied.
more Sena
>>740467878
>>740468774and? catbox exists. sauce a brother up and submit positive karma for yourself in the universe. think of it as giving a old man on the roads your travels a sip of water. umbasa.
>>740466757by giving Melia a good ending with a new handsome love interest
>>7404667571. No NPC following/scent chasing quests2. Add the ability to level down at rest sites from the get-go, not only post-game 3. Lower enemies' debuff resistance across the board4. Make it so level up EXP gained from elite enemies and chain attack overkills is stored as bonus EXP instead of instantly applied5. Remove fast travel reseting the clock at 8 am by default 6. Add an option to disable IRIS Network and Chain Attack from playing, instead having the current field theme playing in menus and the current battle theme continue through the Chain Attack 7. Half the requirements for leveling up Soul Hacker arts and skills and the exp requirements for unlocking new classes8. Add a new fusion art/combo move mechanic for switching between Kevesi/Agnian Ouroboros forms9. Fasten the speed at which you can change playable characters mid-fight, or add a radiant menu to directly select who you want to control
>>740468942https://files.catbox.moe/m4aa4w.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/jv4jp3.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/3rvtl9.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/d4s14b.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/sewvsd.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/zluf2b.png
>>740468907I don't get it. I remember how people actually praised 1 because it was very solid anime adventure.But then 2 was out and people started to complain that it's HURR DURR ANIME comparing to 1.Where did those people crawl out from? Even X was anime so it couldn't attract this crowd.
>>740469772>bondagebased>ryonanot my cup of tea, but I respect that>no spatscringe
>>740469004At least they could fix her and Shulk classes
>>740466757God she's so desperate for a Western man's penis.
>>740469772bless you stranger may the gods watch over your journey
>>740469779The answer is incredibly simple: it got mainstream as the primary JRPG on Switch, especially as technically first-party titles. So suddenly normies were putting their eyes on it, and the one thing that's weird about normies is their inconsistency for what they really want as they bitch and moan about anime until they suddenly want it.
>>740469873>no spatsI have this, I guess?https://files.catbox.moe/pv2ybp.png
>>740470030good shit. Sometimes I feel I'm the only spats appreciator on the interwebz
>>7404667572DE when?
this game actually got a lot wrong. the combat system was the worst of 1 and 2; you couldn't attack while moving, but you also couldn't animation cancel for faster attacks. giving every character access to every class adds nothing to the game other than pointless grinding. there's nothing to say about how chain attacks work in this game that hasn't been said before, what a complete fuck up. the mechs also are incredibly boring with a limited skillset. X had the same problem but at least you could pilot them in the overworld. the sentai villains were god awful and clashed horribly with the emotional core of the story/characters. in fact, the entire plot was ill conceived from start to finish. the alter-ego N and M characters served well but once that was all resolved there was not a single fucking thing left other than REMEMBER MELIA???? even the towns sucked ass. what a piece of shit.
>>740470202>oi rex enough drinking i didnt ask for you to come and talk about dumb shit i shaved me minge for this so hurry up and shag me
>>740468907>>7404697791 and X didn't look like this and the story is x10 more juvenile than both 1 and X.
>>740470301Aka you want to performatively virtue signal about how you only like 'the good anime' and are 'totally mature and grown up' because some elemental spirit equivalent has bubbles.
>>740470301???
>>740470301????
>>740470376>>740470439?????
I'm not too far along yet but the combat system in 2 feels like a one step forward two steps back situation compared to the first gameThough the combat in 1 also took some time to really click
>>740470301>can place the X cast in bunny girl outfits>fanservice galore with certain character outfits in 1, aka the FIORA ASS GAMEYeah they got a hentai artist for 2 but like, god that is so massive an amount in the industry of people that do that, you'd have to be specifically hunting for individuals not tied to that shit. And you were playing a teen on a lighter adventure that escalated to shit hitting the fan, go figure it's gonna be a bit more juvenile. They wanted something a little more traditional JRPG versus how the Xeno series loves to utterly fuck with expectations.
>>740469779It's simple really.XB1: Classic shounen manga.XB2: Battle harem light novel slop.
>>740470479just hold on until chapter 3 I think when you're inside the titan/water area, that's when the game unlocks the full combo system and shit gets really good
>>740470461I like this design. It looks unique and colors are appealing to eyesHating it for big boobs is super retarded.
>>740470479It take a whopping 7 chapters for the gameplay in 2 to fully unlock.
>>740470202Next year for its 10th anniversary, same as 1DE and XDE
>>740466757Fully uncensor the part where she shoots herself. Wanna see her noggin' smeared all over Ghondor and Nia's house.
>>740466757remove chain attacks
Why is getting MC's dick the most important thing for most people?
>>740466757>ANON HAVE SEX WITH ME RIGHT NOW I DID EVERYTHING RIGHT AND SUFFERED FOR SO LONG JUST FUCK ME ILL DO WHATEVER YOU WANT
>>740466757Change the class system to be less grindy, it took me at least a dozen hours of mindless grinding to max out everyone in the post game.
>>740470202>>740470601Retard.
>>7404704792 takes a long time to finally give you all your tools. Like, combat's great once you can use 3 blades on every character and unlocked arts canceling on everyone, but by that point you're 25/30% through the game
>>740470725>uhm sorry but I still have gunpla to make >later cunt
>>740470642Glad I'm not the only one who found this scene strange. This is as close to her head to points the gun. These games can never even try to be dark as Gears and Saga.
>>740470693Obsessed.
>>740470748Or make expert mode available since the beginning
>>740466757Make it its own thing. The need to tie in to 1/2 hampered the shit out of it.
>>740470889That'd be nice too.
>>740470693im just here for shania images
>>740470202Never. It doesn't need it.
>>740466757I barely even remember what happens in that game but my immediate thought was that the antagonist was realy lame
>>740470795unf she's unbelievably sexy
>>740471102B-b-but my wholesome DLC about 3 women sharing one man...
>>740466757Wtf is her appeal? Is it the covered navel?
>>740471473>Wtf is her appeal?"I CAN FIX HER", is her appeal.
>>740471192>I barely even remember what happens in that gameTwo nations are in eternal war with each other. They have to slaughter the other side to consume their life force or their own war machines will steal their own life force away. One day a squadron of soldiers from each nation is sent to eliminate a mysterious source of energy, which instead frees them from their enslavement and grants them fusion superpowers, and they're labeled traitors and hunted by their own forces, and so have to team up to reach the giant sword and uncover the truth of the world.>but my immediate thought was that the antagonist was realy lameThe antagonist is Z, the evil embodiment of mankind's fear of obliteration made physical form. He started the forever war to amuse himself, but also to distract humanity from the despair of being annihilated from two planets obliterating each other. When the heroes kill him they manage to resume the cosmic clock and allow things to play out once more.
>>740471473BORN TO DRAWFORCED TO FIGHTWORLD IS A FUCK
>>740466757Why she angry
>>740471473interesting tragic charactercould've been fixedironically more likeable than the guest star party member who opposes her
>>7404707702's combat is shit.The game is a slow slog at the start, and at the end you're just breaking the combat system with spamming the best move in your cooldown sequence with no tactical thought about it
>failed to becomae an artist>became evil insteadWOW! SO FUCKING DEEP, TAKAHASHI!
>>740471473Nothing. She's the worst girl in the entire series.
>>740471696She didn't fail to become an artist, she WANTED to be a soldier and everyone told her to just stop and do art instead. The Hitler parallel doesn't work when the game emphasizes that what everyone wants for her is not what she wants for herself.
>>740472068>everyone told her to just stop and do art insteadIt was literally just Ghondor and her father. If you played Lanz' side story, you would know that The City very heavy importance in war time roles and anything seen as not immediately practical was disregarded as a waste of time. Secondly, when Shania's sister died, who was the Reid clan's chosen representative to be part of the Ouroboros candidates, it threw a wrench in everything. They literally had no one else besides Shania, who was never meant for it. But despite this, she did extremely well, making it to 8th out of 100 accepted candidates, but this wasn't good enough because if you weren't in the top 6, you essentially didn't matter.The thing is a lot of people were aware of how unhappy Shania was because of her mother, including City Elder Monica, but no one chose to do anything because of bugman mentality ("it's not place to say anything, so I will not get involved.") Shania's character is a multilayered commentary.
>>740472557People hating Shania just proves that there is a big lack of empathy in our society,
>>740472557Societal expectations are one thing, but an individual's desire to excel under those expectations shouldn't be disregarded so quickly. Some people want to go far under the system they live in, while others wish to rebel against it.Shania is the former. Idolizing the talented Ghondor, she adopted caestuses as her blade weapon too. But instead of Ghondor supporting her friend, she chastised her for "copying her", telling her to go paint instead. After her sister died Shania took up her sister's pistol as her new blade weapon, but again, she was pretty bad at it, and her father told her to knock it off and go paint, the thing she was actually good at doing. There was no support. And despite coming in top 10 for the Ouroboros Candidates list, like you said because she wasn't top 6 her mother called her a failure, and she tore up her drawings. Shania WANTED to live up to the expectations the City and her mother put on her, and blamed herself when she failed to do it.It's why it's tragic, because just about nobody else in the plot can understand this mentality. The City, the Lost Numbers, the Ouroboros and freed colonies, they all seek to break the system they were born in, not excel within it. They weren't living up to legacies. The only one that might've understood is Joran, who suffered much the same, and took his frustration out from his many failures as a Moebius, but ultimately regretted not being able to stand by his friends' side. And even Moebius both didn't understand and also didn't care, X thought it was funnier to give Shania an ironic fate instead of the second chance she wanted. Becoming a Moebius for her was the ultimate consolation prize, eternal proof that she wouldn't be able to prove her worth like she wanted, and was given a pity win instead. It was unfathomably hollow.So in the end, Shania was truly alone.
I think we just need more hot brownies in our games and they go from a 9.5 to a 10
>>740472557Reminder that Melia lived a much, much worse life than Shania but Melia never tried to commit genocide. >>740472783This but with people hating Melia.
>>740474419Why did you bring up Melia for no reason? Different people react to things in different ways. THat's a fact of life.
>>740474496NTA but our local schizo mindbroke some people
>>740474496because shaniafags and their "woe is me" act are annoying.
>>740474496Melia gets more hate than Shania does
What will the hair color of the next xeno protag be? I'm betting they'll be a redhead.
>>740466972Good point. It's a cuck driven series at the end of the day.
>>740474725Al is not a protagonist, retard.
>>740474801Stop being pedantic and give an honest answer
>>7404697792 contains a bunch of heavy and overly direct references to a bunch of classic anime, and while the people saying that the tropes are too heavy are probably correct, the majority of the complaints on 4chan come from people who for the first few days some people were saying that this and that scene were dumb and made no sense (example most of the shit with Rosa) and got caught for being secondaries, so now they are extra mad at the game and its fans but cant explain why.
>>740474496>Different people react to things in different waysyes, good people like Melia react in honorable ways and bad people like Shania react in evil ways.
>>740474825Kys.
>Reeeee you only hate it because it's more anime than the other ones!I'll play underage panty quest if it's fun. But xenoblade 2 was tedious, the characters sucked, and the character designs were inconsistent and all over the place.Now stop whining every single fucking thread, it's getting pathetic.
>>740474419>Reminder that Melia lived a much, much worse life than Shania but Melia never tried to commit genocide.i mean the genocide already happened before she had a chance to, and then Melia made absolutely sure to kill off her half-sister who was the last surviving member of the race she hated.
>Melia>hatedWho the fuck hates Melia?>>740474825(you) are the protag
>>740474914Her life didn't stop being shitty when her people got turned into telethia.
>>740474956>Who the fuck hates MeliaYou new around here?
>>740474956>Who the fuck hates Melia?Takahashi
>>740474960It pretty much did. After she finished off her sister there was only the fight with zanza and then her life from there was pretty fucking solid.
>>740475047>and then her life from there was pretty fucking solid.No it fucking wasn't. She's still alone and miserable by the time XC3 starts. Then she got captured and tortured for 1,000 years. And the end of XC3 shows she's still obsessed with Shulk.
>Lorithia>Melia's sisterIs that supposed to be Indian ragebait?
>You can only be happy if you have a bf/gf.this is why you fags are miserable.
>>740474914>kill off her half-sister who was the last surviving member of the race she hated.Didn't play the game award.
>>740475145That's the message that Takahashi pushed with XC3, so take your complaints to him, not us.
>>740475145She doesn't have a positive conclusion after 3. It's not about bf.
>>740475205>It's not about bf.It's not SOLELY about that but it's part of it.
>>740475205>Confident leader>Reliable allies>Inspiring>Strong emotionally and in a fight>One of the main figures that help correct the situation in 3.If you don't think that's a positive conclusion then you're an egocentric fatass.
>>740475154I played it on the wii so I'm like 90% remembering things wrong, but wasnt the bitch who joined up with zanza who you fight inside the bionis' kidneys her royal half-sister? Or was she the stepmom or an aunt or something?
>>740475298No, you dumbfuck. It sounds like you're combining Lorithia and Tyrea into one character.
>>740475272Takahashi said making babies is the most important thing ever. So she has a bad ending.
>>740475272We don't actually see any of that in 3. What we DO see is that she still keeps Shulk's sword hidden in a secret passage in her castle.
>>740475337Eh, probably. Either way all of those mean girls who bullied melia died in the holocaust except the one who melia hunted down later.
>>740475381I wonder if it was awkward when Shulk told Rex his sword is also called Rex.
>>740475412>didn't play FC or 3 Retard.
>>740475381>We don't actually see any of that in 3.Go do her ascension quest.
they're so large
>>740475471I did
>>740475205>It's not about bf.yeah that's right you little lapdog, your sacred cow Takahashi said she's a strong independent woman so your cuck joke days are over.
>>740475472I do wonder if the Aegis forms are predetermined. Like, the personality is based on the driver like any other, in her case Addam's fears of being a father, but was it also his decision to give her fat fucking bonhonkadonkaloos?
>>740475272She comes back to nothing but a big mess (emerged worlds) which she is going to solve. Just more troubles right after being locked up for 1000 years. And judging by her side quest she is also going to do some heavy lifting on Alrest side too.She doesn't live for herself anymore, she lives for others. And in all other Xeno works the mix of egoisticism and caring about others was displayed as the best way of life.And all this happened on her birthday.Honestly, fuck Takahashi. It was her final appearance and it's so unsatisfying.
>>740475449I do admit, I must have skipped the part where the high entia race came back and she had a chance to genocide them and chose not to.
>>740475630They still exist in FC and 3 retard.
>>740475537>Please, please like my cuck memes I was so masterfully creating for yearsFuck off, retard. Only /dbs/ could make them. You are all pathetic copycats
>>740475659You were the one spamming cuck memes, faggot. Kys.
>>740475610All the main antagonists of xenoblade are egotistical, selfish manchildren that throw the world into chaos because of what THEY want.If anything, Melia's a fantastic counter-argument to them via the fulfilment of the self by also living for others.
>>740475630Are you genuinely retarded?
>>740475704It's still shitty that she never gets to be happy.
>>740475704I wrote that it's a balance between being egoistical and caring about others.And Melia barely has any egoism (in 3 at least) which isn't good thing for Takahashi.
>>740466757>Keep New Mio and Original Mio (M) dead (she can return as a spirit in the finale I guess) >Change the 10 year cycle to 20 to allow real growth of the characters>Change the twist of the cycle being a ploy to the ouroborous manipulating everyone's memories to an extent to make them think nothing is wrong>Make Noah move on and accept grief to actually distinct him from N >Remove the deus ex machina near the end >Drastically cut down ouroborous count to probably 10 members >Revamp hero stories for the main cast to being actually plot relevant and not just side stories >DON'T have the ending be a reset>Change up the other hero stories to also be relevant in some regard>Remove some party members like Camuravi, Ethel, Teach, Isurd, Juniper, Segiri>Have Vandam have actual screen time before killing him off >Expand initial section of the game to allow the group to actually come together naturally and of their own volition >Change interlink forms to not be forms but instead a creature that can allow them to break fate like it seemed like it was going to be in the initial trailer, who they can tap into for more power, all six members have their own form now instead of the forced syncronicity sexual metaphorical bullshit>Have ACTUAL interchangeable outfit parts for hero classes you unlock >Option to play as a hero member if you so choose, or disable them And there's probably way, WAY more I would put here, but I can't remember everything. And this is just for if 3 turned out with the same premise as it has now. Otherwise the game would be completely rewritten to be what Future Redeemed was for its entirety, much more fleshed out.
>>740475630>Indian ragebait
>>740466757All the female characters barefoot and ages halved
>>740476281based Pragmata enjoyer
This is what happened when Melia saw Z for the first timehttps://youtu.be/zYarhwMNhmE&t=51
>>740476380no that's clearly RE4
She's so pretty...
>>740476751O MY MONADO
https://youtu.be/j3a5qMLqoQM?si=yF-F0nyUxNbzEhCjWhy are the vocal songs in these games always so damn good?
>>740468907joseph hamsterson didn't say that
>>740476751She's so offmodel... kill yourself... you poser piece of shit faggot...
>>740477193I think you have severe autism and/or psychosis. 90% of fan art doesn't have the exact proportions of the official art
>>740466757She did absolutely nothing wrong and I'm not kidding.
>>740477309She tries to steal Taion's virginity
>>740477369>trying to commit genocide against an entire city including children and babies >not wrong kys
>>740477309I think you have severe manchild syndrome and a porn addiction, please find the nearest shotgun and pull the trigger while it's aimed at your mouth and loaded. Thanks.
>>740477628How come you get angry whenever you see a woman with large breasts?
>>740477628>t. the biggest 2fag who never played any xenogame
We need Shania and Fiona animations.
>>740477581>trying to commit genocide against an entire city including children and babies >not wrongYes.
>>740466757Rounded up anyone that played it and shot them.
>>740477789Nothing can beat the old imagination
>>740470582Just wait til 20 hours into the game, it gets good after 20 hours
>>740466757Chain attacks break the game, needs a new system.Make the max level 200 so you don't get to level 30 in 25 hours and 65 in the next 90.Make the plot rise it's stakes, it kind of dies after N, maybe Z doing the Satan a last time with an NPC or Shania being the guardian of Origin would have helped, or X and Y having a plot beyond dying inside.Having the main guy having excalikatana from the beginning was retarded, the clocks needed a less dumb solution than that.Don't hide mechanics beyond having to reach the tutorial, the beginning is harder than it should because the game doesn't let you play with all the basic controls.
>>740477834>war setting>it's just killingImagine if the Flame Clocks didn't supress their instincts to fuck.
>off modelIs it?>>740477858Can't you just ignore Chain Attacks if you don't like them?
>>740477953Cute Fiona.
>>740477835Good news is that if you learn to step cancel you can break those hours into a very easy and faster chore.Tap the movement stick a bit after the first attack just to start the step animation and it cancels the attack animation of the second attack into the first again, this gives better DPS than the three attacks for a while. Find an accessory that improves basic attack damage and you're on easy mode for till it gets obsolete.
Definitive means to fix Xenoblade 3:>During the fight with N and M, Lanz and Sena should die. Annihilation event against N, who survives because Z won't let him die. End it with a fight against N and M's Moebius fusion that can't be won. >Since we go to Colony Omega so soon after, it's better payoff to revive them there than just having fucking Mwamba show up again. >Make it EXPLICIT that memories belong to the soul not the body since retards couldn't infer the obvious from Origin emulating the UMN and missed the obvious Fei/Elly retellings. Do this at Colony Omega, in Origin, during the Matha Wildwoods segments which REALLY needed a technological fantasy segment. >ACTUALLY have the city lose most of their people. M saved as many as she could, but not all of them. Side quest to go save the baby you met earlier. >When M does the reveal and you fight N with your Sword of the End, give Noah and Mio new Ouroboros forms that resemble N and M's moebius form but "corrected." >When fighting N at Origin, give him an Ouroboros form he utilizes alone, with only his memories of Mio. All this to make Noah's Ouroboros power up again at the very end, with the sword of the end, properly powered up. Xenogears imagery. Let Noah activate his Ouroboros and carry everyone's soul with him ala Matthew's Ares Ouroboros in the overworld, let him fly. It should be a fucking reward. >Make it clear, again, since retards could not read between the lines until Xenoblade X that the soul's experiences are eternal, and that they will remember and meet. >Correct the translation about Origin's functions so it's clear that it rebuilds everyone after the worlds merge and destroy everything.>One fucking reference to the Conduit/Zohar. Just fucking ONE. >Also make it so quick reposition actually lets you dodge hitboxes. That shit was lame and useless otherwise.>Final boss against Z needs to not be against a giant angry bunch of heads. It needs to allow infinite Ouroboros at some fucking point.
>>740477953Oh, I prefer the Chain Attacks to discovering I didn't equip properly for phase 2 and it has dozens of millions of HP left.Compared to 1 & 2 it's broken as fuck, they should have designed combat different so you didn't have to choose between suffering for not reading the guide or carrying a broken team or pulverizing the boss by having him spinning on the air for ten minutes while the party does quickenings.
>>740478539>Make it clear, again, since retards could not read between the lines until Xenoblade X that the soul's experiences are eternal, and that they will remember and meet.That would be heavy handed and would be cringe.
>>740478656You can do it in a way that it isn't. Even just a line like Rex's "it'll go back to normal" - No, fuck that, we HAD that and it wasn't enough for illiterates.
>>740470202>they're gonna censor pyra and mythra in xc2deI am NOT ready for this.
>>740471693Thats down to the base game being too easy and allowing to yolo your way through basically everything that doesnt have shackle blade/driver. Bringer of chaos really allows the combat to shine and forces you to strategize to clear fights without overlevelling. The slow drip feed of mechanics is one of the games flaws though I understand why they did it for balancing reasons but its still frustratingly slow.
>>740475680Cute.
>>740478539>>Final boss against Z needs to not be against a giant angry bunch of heads. It needs to allow infinite Ouroboros at some fucking point.Goddamn that fight was awful. >14 fucking phases>die at any time and you go back to the title screen>the one and only time the game sends you to the title screen for dyingI was almost 10 levels below the final boss and that was a long drawn out fight.
>>740478860Also some of the scenes like the in battle scenes, you couldn't skip
>>740478539Actually make a proper finale instead of trying to attract newfags ala Future Redeemed.
>>740478540Oh, we are talking only about 3. Then I agree. The damage needs to be tuned down.I think it could be cool if chain attacks actually worked in the way that you need to choose between extra damage, extra defence or full healing. Not unga bunga shit.>>740478860I did a lot of quests before + explored Origin so I was a little overleveled
>>740478860It's unreal how much this game shit the bed when it shit the bed. It has really really high highs but the lowest lows in the series by far, save for Xenoblade 2 chapter 4. It felt the most like a classic Takahashi affair for better and worse out of the series, a lot of really cool ideas that absolutely got raped by production limits.
>>740478942Future Redeemed is the best Xenoblade experience full stop. Pacing is perfect and so is the gameplay and fanservice.
>>740466757Story wise, nothing. I think it was great as it was. Gameplay wise, I wish they added more classes. Most of the DLC classes didn't really bring much to the table. They could also have made all the recruitable characters playable with changable gear.And for the love of GOD, fix the fucking debuff system. It made two classes nigh useless unless you played on easy (Stalker and Machine Assassin) and on easy everything has such a low HP pool it's not worth using them anyway.Also make the AI more aggressive. MS had four games to work on the AI, but they are still almost as bad as they were in Xenoblade 1.
>>740478992What about Torna?
>>740477789someone needs to draw Triton & Fiona doing the Hugh & Diana pose
>>740478992I agree. In general the extra outside of the original in each game has been pretty good, even if XB1 Future Connected is a bit lackluster at points. But the new ending in XBX really ruined the Xenoblade lore dump of the original and moved from science to more magic styled explanation of multiverse and love.
>>740478724who cares
>>740478759I don't think so. Seems MS like to honor their design choices from previous games if you look at XB1DE at least apart from a few changes like changing the key on Alvis to a core crystal. They even added a new pure sex armor for Fiora.
>>740479149>Fiora and Melia have the same walking animationLazy
>>740479149Fine, I'll play XCDE.
>>740479149Or well, now I remember censoring Lin in XBXDE.
>monolith rumored to be working on oot remakeWe’re not getting xc4 in 5 years…
>>740479149>removed ass crackNice try
>>740478860>I was almost 10 levels below the final boss and that was a long drawn out fight.I was level 92 and the sucker took forever to die. What were they thinking. Y died so fast in comparison. Even the level 90 unique I killed before saying it was time to see the ending died faster.
>>740479276It'd probably be even worse than 3 anyways
>>740479210It is just the superior version. It even fixed a lot of bugs from the original, so you don't have gems that doesn't work anymore.>>740479279It's not that it was "removed". They moved away from the painted on shadings (although I think it's still there a bit) on models and instead letting the engine do it. Fiora still has it, but it blends into her skin color.
>>740470301>the story is x10 more juvenile than both 1 and X.So you havent played 2 i take it?
>>740479020Redeemed is better than Torna by a lot. Torna is fine but it shits the bed so often, like the forced sidequest gatekeeping, the bad final boss out of nowhere, the weird retcons to the main game, it wasn't nearly as clean.
>>740479276Monolith is a lot bigger than they used to be. They've grown more than nearly any other studio in Japan
>>740471473A tale that you need supportive people throughout your life
>>740479496Melia had less support and never tried to commit genocide
>>740479403It's also kind of stupid how much of the original XB2 story has moments in it that in retrospect made zero sense until you played Torna. Like i sort of get why they wanted to make the prequel, but at the same time the characters it features were never all that pivotal to the plot nor did it really extend a ton of extra value into the rest of the game. I find it kind of weird how much praise the game gets when it's practically stiched together from concepts and jamming from a variety of artists and designers, which also means the tonal whiplash is all over the place. I mean, what the hell was the point of the Nomura trio exactly?
>>740477176 He essentially did during his play through of 2. For some reason he "hates anime" yet loved Xenoblade 1 and Persona. Xenogears/saga/blade, Persona, and Tales of are basically the most anime of any JRPGs.
>>740479663There wasn't one, outside of Malos, who was just a hype man for some other dude who was sad and overpowered because reasons. The whole game was a study of how humans interact with different people, the fear of rejection, and those sorts of hedgehog's dilemma things. They SHOULD have been more present in the story, but they were just a quirky miniboss squad. Torna was the worst part of 2, and the whole chapter in Temperantia with the "war" between Mor Ardain and Uraya was so pointless. Remove it from the story and absolutely nothing changes.
>>740479663>I find it kind of weird how much praise the game gets when it's practically stiched together from concepts and jamming from a variety of artists and designers, which also means the tonal whiplash is all over the place.The whole game is a honage/parody of anime/manga cliches it was the entire point of hiring guest artists to design characters/quest arcs.
>>740469779Every Xenoblade is heavily inspired by different anime tropes and genres to the point it references scenes like satire. I think it was more blatant in XB2 though, while 1 and 3 tended to be more typical. I think all four games are great and scratch different itches but still feel like they are part of a bigger story.
>>740479663I've never understood why so many people complain about them using multiple artists. I always liked it even though I only knew a few of the artists at the time.
>/v/ says that people hate 3>Noah, Mio and Eunie are more popular than anyone from 1
>>740479942It doesn't matter what the "point" is when it doesn't land and detracts from the experience. The design language of Xenoblade 2 is so inconsistent it genuinely hurts the game. It's not a parody or homage, it just uses stock tropes like several other stories do. That's not a bad thing, but it's not going to be everybody's taste especially when it was so different from 1, Xenosaga, and Xenogears. You can't just expect everyone to like it.
>>740479849>Remove it from the story and absolutely nothing changes.You could say this for half of the game and replace it with something more substantial, but unfortunately we have an entire segment of Mor Ardain reserved for Poppi Super Sentai and Blue Smurf Amalthus malding over having a crisis of faith and letting Malos dick around like he owns the planet.
>>740480037So glad we eventually got the costume.
>>740471514I don't want to fix her. I want her to succeed.
>>740480070It isn't that different from Gears and Saga, maybe it's a bit heavier on the lighthearted stuff than them but tonally it is very close to Xenosaga 1 in particular.
>>740474725Here's your X protagonist
>>740480135I really need to replay 3 once i'll grab a Switch 2 in Fall. I have no desire to go back to the other games as i've played them to death.
>>740480246I've replayed it so many times just to get all the legacy of the seven accessories so I can give them to all my party members.
>>740466757XCX ruinned XC series for me. Everything just feels too anime after that.
>>740480346>anime is too anime
>>740480346The extremely anime mecha game made everything else feel too anime?
>>740480171It really isn't though. I don't know why this is so hard for people who mainly like 2 to get - It is a very, very different story with a very, very different tone. At no point in Xenosaga 1 does the shota protagonist wake up in someone's boobs and go all circle eyed who then slaps him and calls him a pervert. That doesn't happen. There's not a mascot character with a speech impediment loli fetish robot.None of these things are bad! I'm not saying I dislike them. I laughed a lot through 2. It's just very, very different presentation and not everyone is going to like it. Blame! and Made in Abyss are actually very similar stories, but the difference in presentation and subject matter is going to prevent some people who enjoyed Blame! from reading Made in Abyss.
>>740480402>>740480416The wrong kind of anime.
>>740480431You could have just said that sex stuff makes you uncomfortable. Just because some humour is centred around sex doesn't mean it is fundamentally different from the humour in XS1 which is somewhat less centred around sex.
>>740480418I can sort of see why N wanted to keep M around so possessively.
>>740480563No shit.
Shania did nothing wrong.
>>740480548I didn't say that, and it doesn't. Why does it always go to that with you? Those are extreme examples of tonal distance between 1 and 2. I literally went out of my way to say "I'm not saying I dislike them," because I don't. It's the difference between Evangelion and Martian Successor Nadesico. Do you have enough media knowledge to understand the difference there? Yes, Eva has a lot of humor. It even goes SD sometimes, but it's rare, and the tone overall is very serious. The tone overall in 2 is not as serious. Not everyone will like it.That's it. That's the summary of what I'm telling you. 2 is different. Not everyone will like it. X is different. Not everyone will like it. 1 is different, 3 is different, not everyone will like your preferred Xenoblade. Holy shit, man.
>>740480015You have garbage taste. Very common with the average Xeno 2 defender.
>>740480789>Why does it always go to that with you?It doesn't, I was responding to your two examples, which were>At no point in Xenosaga 1 does the shota protagonist wake up in someone's boobs and go all circle eyed who then slaps him and calls him a pervert>There's not a mascot character with a speech impediment loli fetish robot.which are both centred around sex.>The tone overall in 2 is not as serious. Not everyone will like it.The tones are very similar, 2 is just a much longer game with many more characters, so it has more comedic moments. However when it comes to the main story each chapter in Blade 2 has serious moments far outweighing the comedic moments, even in chapter 4. I don't know when you last played Saga 1, but it is not as serious as you make it out to be, even the very serious cyborg character starts cracking jokes. >That's it. That's the summary of what I'm telling youYeah, and you're wrong. Have you even played Saga 1? >>740480885Okay, Amerimutt, explain why having multiple artists is a bad thing. Go ahead, I'm waiting.
Not giving that retard any more (you)s, we had a nice thread before this.
Why do Americans get so flustered and start crying whenever their retarded views get challenged? They state their views so confidently too, yet the slightest disagreement has them wetting themselves.
Happy Pride, Xenofaggot
>>740480789>It's the difference between Evangelion and Martian Successor Nadesico. Do you have enough media knowledge to understand the difference there?
>>740481174What kind of fucking retard says that shit?
>>740480665That's one part of the story I thought was so weird. Sure, she has the freedom of choice of how she acts, but despite several powerful people knowing her circumstances and knew it was wrong, they did jack shit. Especially Ghondor just because Shania admiring her gave her the ick.
>>740481174uhmm...xenosister? I thought Xeno is based conservative and redpilled series????
>>740481338Ghondor was really immature, that was part of her character - But she was so rotten and unlikable.
>>740469926Snow Indian post
>>740481386But Monica also knew how she was treated.
>>740481174
>>740481435I think the whole deal was that shit societies are shit. Monica left the issue for when she had time till she didn't gave a damn (or straight up didn't) and everybody else was as bad or worse. So Shania blew her brains and became a monster that could stop time, her main desire.
>>740481469adult Rex is hot but not as hot like Metsu
>>740481609I prefer long haired Shulk
>>740481174can't believe the Scissor Sisters are real.
>>740481719Hag Nia and Melia are truly a blessing to the soul.
>>740480037>normalfags have shit tasteMany such cases
it's amazing how even saying something as innocuous as "xenoblade 2 is different" is enough to set off the tard squad2 is my fav because it's different, the fuck is this weird denial
It's amazing how people will make laughably false claims about the tone of Xenosaga 1 without ever having played it.
>>740481940post the titty jokes from xenosaga 1, thenit should be trivial to find such an iconic scene on youtube, right?
>>740481686He aged like shit
>>740482007I wish I could look like this in my 40s.
>>7404818622fags are thin-skinned, please understand they can't stand it if people happen to talk *slightly* negative things about XB2 despite you're not even shitting it.they will start calling you either 3fags or resetrannies next.
>>740481998See, it's always complaining about sex with you. Americans have been so mentally raped that they think sex jokes are tonally different to any other kind of joke. There are plenty of jokes about Kos-Mos' tits in Freaks anyway, if you need to see that then go play it.
Don't mind me, I am just going to post laughably retarded fan theories about games I have never played. If anyone says I am wrong I will cry and call them thin-skinned for correcting me.
>>740482275okay, then if you're not still replying to that guy's comments about sex, post the scenes comparable in xenosaga 1 to xenoblade 2. you won't, because you can't, because it isn't similar. there are multiple genres of comedy, and some third world retard not understanding subtlety isn't surprising
Speaking of Future Redeemed, relegating Smash/Burst to a button you always have access to was such a genius decision.
>>740482313you seems butthurtwhy people calling your favorite games being tonally different offend you so much, bro?dude ain't even shitting XB2, get a fucking grip
>>740482474Don't even reply, guy does this in every Xenoblade thread. He needs your oxygen to shit up the thread.
I think I don't hate any party member in Xenoblade trilogy.
>>740482658It's a really strong ensemble. The worst you can say is that Shania like doesn't do much.
>>740482362The entire first act is filled with jokes about Allen, who is constantly used a comic relief throughout the game. The vast majority of scenes with the Elsa crew besides chaos are comedic. The scenes at the Kukai Foundation. In fact the entire residential parts of the Kukai Foundation are used for jokes, especially with the NPCs.The jokes and banter between Jr and Marry and Shelly, in fact their characters are used almost exclusively for comic relief. Every part involving Bunnie.Ziggy jokes around with Momo and the rest of the cast before the end of the game.Albedo is a camp villain and acts that way in every scene he is in. He's even more camp than Malos.Even in the second last scene of the game Shion makes a joke about Kosmos. Plus more than half the NPCs in the entire game make jokes, and it was even toned down during translation.
>>740482718>ShaniaDid you mean Sharla?
>>740482774Again, not all jokes are equal. Something having jokes or a comic relief character doesn't mean it's identical in tone to another work that presents itself as a shonen anime. Claiming Mary and Shelly are solely comic relief is insane. Having a personality doesn't equate to comic relief. Like, I appreciate you're attempting, but I really want you to compare the two. They are different. If nothing else - If NOTHING else - Xenosaga has one art director and only two artists. Kunihiko Tanaka and CHOCO are the artists responsible for carrying out the art direction, which is comprehensive and coherent throughout. It is different.Being different is not bad. I don't get what is so hard about this for you. Allen being a pathetic loser who can't ask out Shion is written naturally, not like a series of jokes. A scene can be funny without being jokey. Xenoblade 2 is jokey. It's fine that it's jokey. Fucking Xenogears had jokes, but it wasn't jokey. Something can be jokey and still be serious. Not everyone is going to like it. Do you think Xenoblade 2 is just like FF7 too, because Tifa calls Barret a retard?
>>740482960Oops, yes.
>>740483004this kind of thing seems like it should be common sense, even monolith says 2 is tonally different, even takahashi says he wanted something more like the anime he enjoyed as a kid compared to the darker content of other games. why get defensive about that? i don't understand.
>>740483004You aren't saying anything substantial. You can't back up a single point you're making, you just state the point then repeat it again.>Again, not all jokes are equal. Something having jokes or a comic relief character doesn't mean it's identical>but I really want you to compare the two. They are different. If nothing else - If NOTHING else - Xenosaga has one art director and only two artists. Kunihiko Tanaka and CHOCO are the artists responsible for carrying out the art direction, which is comprehensive and coherent throughout. It is different.>Allen being a pathetic loser who can't ask out Shion is written naturally, not like a series of jokes. A scene can be funny without being jokey. Xenoblade 2 is jokey. It's fine that it's jokey. Fucking Xenogears had jokes, but it wasn't jokey. Something can be jokey and still be seriousYou don't actually say anything at all. Just "it isn't the same because it just isn't". If you want to say something substantive then define "jokey", explain what you mean by that. Explain how Allen being involved in a series of jokes at his expense is not a series of jokes and is actually "natural" like you claim. The way you're painting Xenosaga 1 is that it is a "serious" game while Xenoblade 2 is not, yet both have roughly the same ratio of serious moments to comedic moments and Xenosaga having more of its main cast used exclusively as comic relief. I have no idea why you started rambling about how "coherent" the art design is, that is irrelevant to what either of us was talking about.
>>740483252If you actually read what Takahashi was talking about there he was making reference to the tone of Xenosaga III, which he felt strayed from what he wanted. This and the quotation about Xenoblade 1 being "more simple" than Xenosaga are constantly taken out of context for some reason.
cannot wait for xenoblade 4 to be BL story about Metsu/Malos with male MC
>>740482658I kinda hate Tora, but the rest are solid.
>>740483004>Being different is not bad.NTA but you straight up said earlier that having multiple art and writing styles for the guest content made the game worse.
>>740479149Its designed by CHOCO btw. You can tell by the very sleek early 2000 plastic aesthetic.
>>740483568I wonder if we will get another Logos alt beside MalosMalos is just so perfect and Malos 2.0 will be perfect.it's not fair how Logos doesn't have another alt like Pneuma & Ontos
>>740483568The series is going nowhere if its just gonna retread old characters.
>>740483841Takahashi's already hinted that Malos will be relevant, and honestly, out of all the old characters they could bring back, Malos makes the most sense.>>740483808We definitely will get Logos alt & his transcended form, trust the plan.I'm more curious if Logos gets another alter ego and what kind of personality he'll have.
>>740481174amazing how after this was posted 1 hour ago, the thread is suddenly become a bit bearable.guess /pol/ack who constantly shitting the thread now can't latched onto xeno anymore after the creator are revealed to be pozzed, huh?
>>740484361Its pretty obvious none of them play the games. Even le based 2 had a very liberal, leftist message.
>>740484110>Takahashi's already hinted that Malos will be relevant, and honestly, out of all the old characters they could bring back, Malos makes the most senseHe says a lot of things. I want something fucking new from Monolith. I'm sick of Conduit Zanza and Malos shite, it's boring atp. Takahashi is just repeating himself every game if so. I wanna see something new and ambitious from Monolith, not rehashes of the same old.
Why so many Xeno threads lately?
>>740484617Cause something is brewing
>>740484515Takahashi has gotten worse if X's new chapter story is anything to go by. It's getting rote and boring.
>>740484617A storm is coming...
>>740484501Liberal, yes, but not leftist. Leftism is about collectivism and dismantling hierarchy.
One certain character is going to be executed on the next Direct.
>>740484361they will just coping it's Soraya who are pozzed not Takahashi, while Takahashi putting the feminist schtick ''uhmm making the female android as secretary-type is sexist yknow" in 2006
>>740485301It was written by Soraya btw.
>>740485364and? Soraya stopped being involved in Xenosaga 3 after XS2 debacles.doesn't change a fact it was Takahashi who put that shit in his game. hell, even in XB2 he made Brighid & Pyra being disgusted with Tora's perception of women in his H2H.just admit both couple are pozzed as fuck
>they expect something and unrelated to the previousI doubt that they connected X with the trilogy just to move on
>>740485364>implying Takahashi doesn't share similar sentimentHe made Xenosaga to appeal to women, btw.
>>740485639>even in XB2 he made Brighid & Pyra being disgusted with Tora's perception of women in his H2H.By that logic all anime is pozzedActually I remember when Takahashi made a joke calling the western fanbase a bunch of homos.
>>740485950Some of those homos are ITT right now bitching about XB2 being too sexualised.
>>740486139I guess he actually needed to add bulge slider into X.
Xeno were never redpilled.if you want actual based redpilled JRPG play SMT because it was made by actual japanese nationalist & traditionalist
>>740485639>doesn't change a fact it was Takahashi who put that shit in his game. hell, even in XB2 he made Brighid & Pyra being disgusted with Tora's perception of women in his H2H.Take the english translation with a grain of salt. Like with Quantum Technochampion H2H between Zeke, Poppi QTpie and Tora. In the english version she has a "dog mode" which she just barks, but in JP she says she wants to be petted and spoiled. Tora reacts to it with it's supposed to only be for him and shouldn't be used around others and the reason why he locked it away was because for just that reason (implying like in the english translation that people will take it the wrong way).
>>740486218Finally, a game that let me larp as a japanese nationalist.
>>740486218Too much aura
>>740479728He has wrapped himself in so many layers of irony I'm sure he can't even tell what he likes and doesn't like anymoreHe also plays video games with one eye on his chat and the other eye on his child and wife, so I don't really trust him to say anything insightful anyway
>>740486139>trying to dragging homochads to your petty culture war because you need boogeyman to be mad atsorry, anon. I am too much of faggot to care about your ugly sexualized whores. the girls can be naked and I don't give af, because i am too busy lusting over xeno males>>740486218kek, I remember reading a blog how SMT creators hate Jews and purposely putting JP nationalist allegories into the game.
>>740480431>"KOS-MOS makes little girls gay" never happened
>>740484110>Malos makes the most sense.Mythra and A/Alvis make the same amount of sense
>>740486609Didn’t the Jews create homosexuality? You should support them more.
>>740486609>I remember reading a blog how SMT creators hate Jews and purposely putting JP nationalist allegories into the game.that was true, the former creator even blatantly saying it:"If we were to follow the theory that the [Japanese] Imperial Family is part of the Hebrew lineage, then [Masakado] would also become the one who opposed the Jews. The imperfect hero, so to speak. It would be cool if that kind of man existed." -Kazuma Kaneko, series artist and creative directorit's really fun to read the mind of schizo: https://eirikrjs.blogspot.com/2017/06/jjcat.htmlI still have this bookmarked lmao
>>740474725Why is Alois blue?
I really want the Saga series be rereleased on the switch 2.
>>740486753I don't care about jews because I am a goyim and jewish men are ugly>>740486843yep that blog site, it was wild reading all of that but I guess SMT being created by JP schizos makes so much sense & why it's so interesting sometimes.speaking of SMT, I need to start playing DDS soon.
>>740487140Goy is the singular.
People fought about the blue light being MOS-KOS or World War 2, but what if it was both?
>>740487371It's Galaxy Federation. The next game is about big war for the Earth against old humanity Wave Existence is the final boss
You're standing at a loss...
>>740487673No you
It's been 1 year and 10 months since the recruitment call was posted for Takahashi new RPG.We're definitely going to be seeing something soon.
>>740466757Game peaked at the execution scene but everything later with the theater guy was a wet fartWhich was a bit disappointing since it seemed to follow how XBC1 had its big moment midgame at Prison Island and XBC2 with Vandham's death and decent climax later
I love X
>>740487748>that trinity processor color schemeand people still think Trinity Processor will not be relevant huh
>>740488432I'm going to enhance my new dildo with it.
>>740466757I would have given Mio big tits
>>740488713Eunie should have been the main girl
>>740488432I'm sick of the Trinity Processor weve already had the Klaus saga shit and dealing with that. You're basically just confirming that Takahashi and Monolith have ran out of ideas. Fucking Trinity Processor shenanigans AGAIN??? Fucking hell, change the fucking record.
we need more nerdy girl like Shion
>>740488713
>>740475954So many pantie shoots...
>>740484760What? You didn’t think NotRex having everyone suck his dick and Benny Hilling off of Mira to escape the space jannies wasn’t good? Clearly you just don’t appreciate good storytelling. Takahashi watched 2001, y’know. He’s kinda smart.
>>740488432I'm almost 100% certain that the trinity processor has become integrated as some higher being in the xenoblade universe after the merge. Maybe not the conduit tier power, but Pneuma could already alter reality and her core crystal was present in XB3 Future Redeem in Matthew's glove. Same with Logos. His core crystal was in Sword of the End. I have a hard time thinking Alvis didn't know all that happened wouldn't happen. The whole gist of him is predicting the future. During the fight against him, A's core crystal starts to glow when he is about to be finished which makes me think Ontos moved most of his power to A. Also A and Alvis is the same being. They both represent Ontos. I am almost 100% sure both A and Alvis shared consciousness and knew everything from Alvis's and A's perspective. It was all planned from the beginning.If we don't get anything remotely close to the Trinity Processor, even a lore dump saying they are basically part of the universe, I will be mildly disappointed.
>>740488989for me, we need more tasteful girl like Elly
>>740489565
>>740489565Mio is EllyMelia is kinda too when you meet her for the first time
>>740484760Just my 2cents, but the problem with Takahashi (and honestly Xenoblade's writing as a whole) is that he keeps using the same writers, Hyodo and Takeda, and they're kind of hit-or-miss.Xenoblade needs new writers, and I don't think I've seen Takahashi trying to nurture any proteges or younger developers to become his successors.Just look at Persona, Final Fantasy, FE, etc. They all have new directors and writers taking charge. Takahashi needs someone who can tard-wrangle him in for once, or at least let some newer developers take the lead so the series can feel fresh again.I don't mind them reusing old characters and concepts as long as they can transform them into something new and interesting. That's why I'm hoping Xenoblade 4 gets at least a new writer.
>>740489967>Final Fantasy, FEFor worse. Hasn't really been a single good Final Fantasy since FFX.
>>740489967Maybe he has yet to find someone new or younger who has yet to prove they can measure up to their elders and betters? Sometimes, most of the time, it's as shrimple as that.
>>740489967Well the 3 was about giving the torch to new generation so I guess he realises this.>I don't think I've seen Takahashi trying to nurture any proteges or younger developers to become his successors.Why are you so sure? We don't know what is happening inside of MS.Also I think I recently saw some tweet by Soraya where she said something about proofreading writting of her kid. So maybe their kid is going to work in Monolith.
>>740489967now that you mention it, FF has Hamaguchi as the new face, FE has Kusakihara, and Persona has a bunch new team. I have yet to see Xenoblade has 'new face' to lead the series. it's always Takahashi, Kojima, Hyodo, & Takeda.surely Takahashi get new writers during all those Monolithsoft hiring right?
Wish Harada joined Monolith. We need a guy who would write walls of bullshit lore every day on his X.
>>740466972when does that happen ?
>>740490341Maybe the plan is to not continue with Xenoblade after he is gone?
>>7404902203 wasn’t exactly great as far as story goes. It was a lot of “OH SHIT!” moments and connections being made for the greater series lore. But we’ve been over this in multiple threads, a lot of what goes into making a cohesive, beloved RPG story and world is at odds with the themes and setting they wanted 3 to have.
>>740490220probably, I hope that's the case.because he & kojima already getting old so I expect they have some proteges>>740490224that would be cool if Takahashi kid becoming his successors.>Why are you so sure? We don't know what is happening inside of MS.Maybe I'm jumping the gun here, but as someone who's read and followed Monolithsoft interviews, I still haven't seen any newer dev who look like they're being groomed to take over from Takahashi or Kojima.Honestly, I'm not too worried about the director role. what concerns me more is whether Monolithoft can find good writers to carry the series
>>740466757For one the interracial couple and the start from there.
>>740490757Am I the only one under the impression that Takahashi was in his preaching phase when he was writting 3?
>>740466757impreg shania
>>740490796>whether Monolithoft can find good writers to carry the seriesthis, they need to prioritize getting good writers ASAP because X ch.13 is fucking terrible in many ways & I cannot believe it was Xenogears creator who write that shit
>>740466757Mandatory story quest where you impregnate and marry Shania.
>>740466757Was that a good choice to make so many lore details cryptic?
>>740491092I think they just wanted to connect the numbered and X games even if it didn't make sense. It had some really cool moments, but as people rightfully say, the writing was a bit... weird.
>>740480135>>740480418>>740480563>>740480596Noah fucked to this?
>>740491018You are not. 3 is very much A LOT of an aging man, boomering about vaguely fixing the world.
>>740466757The only problem I have with 3 is the story, and it's specifically the last two chapters just completely sucking ass. It's like they stopped trying. An entire chapter of Nia giving exposition was a fucking stupid idea. And then they follow it up with a totally pointless Triforce Hunt-esque fetch quest to do some shit with zero plot relevance. And then the ending where they just stop trying and start smashing robots together while all the characters turn into author mouthpieces was something so bad it felt like it belonged in Persona. That and the final dungeon was one of the worst things I have ever seen in any of these games. Totally boring and devoid of character.I couldn't believe how bad the last act of the game was. Every single character stops talking to each other. Nia exposition dumps the truth of the world on them and they don't even react. They literally run off before she finishes talking and then never talk about it among themselves. The nature of the ending itself is kept as a really stupid last second twist, which is only explained in post-game content. It's like the worst decision you could've possibly made as a storyteller because it just made the ending super confusing the first time. If you had to do just one tiny thing to massively improve the game, move that twist out of the post-game, and have one scene after the stupid fetch quest where the party just sits around a fire and talks to each other about how they feel about the worlds separating.
>>740491018well yeah, XB3 is basically Takahashi ranting how evil JP boomer politician are & forcing capitalism dystopia unto young'un that caused them not wanting to have children (thanks to karoshi).literally the message encouraging young people to change, and get their shit togetherexpect XB4 we will get Takahashi's ranting about recent political wave/trend
>>740491635The last third of the game was so bad I STILL haven't gone back and done the DLC.
>>740491747For as much as I loathe the last act of 3, the DLC is pretty good, you should play it.
>>740475171Not really, Lanz and Eunie were happy as platonic friends.The message of Xenoblade 3 is that we shouldn't be afraid to commit to genuine human connections amd that blindly adhering to us vs them tribalism robs us of our basic human empathy and leave us vulnerable to manipulation by a system of elites that at best sees us all as useful idiots, entertaining little ants or cattle to be exploited.
>>740491823Yeah, I know it's much better. It just really killed my momentum and I never went back to it. It's funny because with 1 and 2 I basically did full replays right away simply because I enjoyed them but with 3 I saw the credits, turned it off, and never went back.
>>740491712Even then the villain in 3 is a softball metaphor “le mankind doesn’t want this to change” boogieman, and doesn’t try to actually take any actual swings at the people ruining the world. It’d be like in FF7, if instead of Shinra being this monstrous megacorp raping and pillaging the planet, the planet was just kind of dying for no reason, and Sephiroth was just some guy who watched it and laughed about how no one was stopping it.
>>740492082But Melia is unhappy and never was rewarded properly for everything she did.No seriously, what is her character message?
>>740492520Melia is the beloved queen of an entire fucking world and has lots of friends who cherish and love her. She loves her friends, she loves her subjects and is very happy to see both flourish. Sometimes your teenage crush (or multiple-hundreds-of-years-old being's equivalent) doesn't pan out, but that's not the end of the world, and it's entirely possible to be happy with other kinds of love than that of spouses.
The entire plot of 3 is stupid as fuck>takes place only 12 years after 1 and 2>In that time, two different universes found out that they exist and how to talk to each other>Found out they were going to collide with each other, leading to mutual universal extinction >Design and build, two halves of a god machine that can weather the event>It will also suck the souls of everyone from the two universes into soul cubes so they can chill until the storm passes>Somehow hide this from EVERYONE not involved>Then, when everyone got sucked into the machine, everyone decided in an instant that throwing kids into a forever war was the best use of their time >Nia is a queen for some reason>When she wasn't connected to royalty at all, and never showed any political will or cared about it>The rules of Origin do not make sense either>It created Aionis, a place outside of itself as a VR chat room>But you can also be inside Origin>There's a city outside of it>So, that would technically make all the people in the city NPCs>If you get disconnected from Origin (which shouldnt be possible since it's the only reason anyone is alive) you die for good when you die>Except not really>Also, Riku is super old and shit, and has shulk's wife who is now a sword for some reasonThey should have scrapped this plot.
>>740481338>despite several powerful people knowing her circumstances and knew it was wrong, they did jack shit. Melia went through much worse and she never became evil like Shania.
>>740491228
>>740493046I know. But everyone is not the same. But considering how it's important to keep the City hidden, knowing there is some level of injustice going on inside the City, they just asked for themselves to be betrayed.
>>740492082>Lanz and Eunie were happy as platonic friendsEunie is for Taion, retard. >we shouldn't be afraid to commit to genuine human connections Melia doesn't have any. >>740492753>Sometimes your teenage crush (or multiple-hundreds-of-years-old being's equivalent) doesn't pan out, but that's not the end of the world,Then why can't she have a new love interest? She just has to be alone and miserable for her entire fucking life after she saves the world 3 times? What a load of shit.
>>740480135>Noah doesn't get N's hair They're so lazy.
>>740493118>But everyone is not the sameCorrect. Melia is a good person and Shania is evil. They aren't the same.
>>740483568YWNBAW
>>740484617/vg/ refugees trying to revive their dead general again
>>740485071>strong girl like her who gets over heartbreak Complete bullshit. In XC3 they made it blatantly obvious that she's still obsessed with Shulk hundreds of years later. She still has that fucking sword hidden in her castle because Takahashi just couldn't resist telling the players one last time that Melia is still longing for Shulk and will never be happy. Takahashi jerking himself off over "muh strong independent woman" is actually laughable. Guy must huff his own farts as hard as Kojima does.
>>740493251I think one key difference is that Melia still had people caring for her, and when she lost that person, she had already met Shulk and the others. Shnaya had the person caring for her die and she was completely on her own.
>>740493492>Melia still had people caring for her,No she didn't. >she had already met Shulk and the others. None of them are real friends to her. Sharla stabbed her in the back.
>>740493556>No she didn't.I forgot her dad hated her with a passion. Silly me.
>>740485071>En respuesta
>>740493595Shania also had a dad who loved her and then died just like Melia did. Play the game retard.
>>740493659>Shania also had a dad who loved her and then died just like Melia did. Play the game retard.>Shnaya had the person caring for her die and she was completely on her ownAre you just skimming through what I wrote?
>>740492823>12 years after 1 and 2It's a fan theory.
>>740493751>and she was completely on her ownShe had Ghondor. Melia was more alone than Shania was.
>>740493789They are literally celebrating Melia's 100th birthday at the start of the game. She was 88 in xc1.
>>740493804>She had GhondorDid you even play the game? Like at all?
Now when we are all in agreement that chapters 6 and 7 were rushed, the good questin is why they released their game earlier?
>>740493961Did you? Who the fuck did Melia have?
>Melia and Nia met the end of the world alone in their rooms>Melia during her birthdayWtf is wrong with Monolith?>>740493847It was never stated that it's 100th birthday. I mean it would be kino for a few reasons but it's a theory unfortunately. They were really cryptic about lore this time.
>>740494167>implying Nia had it anywhere near as bad Melia got
>>740494167>It's only a theory>When EVERY ONE of the main cast is around the same age>Mio>Noah>Eunie>And everyone fucking else is around the same age People who are already dead can't be sucked into Origin before it is activated for the first time.
>>740492082Are there seriously STILL retards who ship Eunie with fucking LANZ???
>>740494167It can't be that far into the future since Tora, Rex, Shulk and probably everyone from 1 and 2 are still alive. Otherwise they wouldn't be added to Origin. Lucky Seven is Fiora for example.
>>740494545>Lucky Seven is Fiora for example.Remember how Noah threw the sword into the ocean? Good times.
>>740494598>Remember how Noah threw the sword into the ocean? Good times.In the end it doesn't really matter since the world was about to separate and everything was going to go back like it used to be. Until Future Redeemed merged the two world instead.
>>740494598He should've waited until the world was back to normal before throwing her in the ocean
>>740494535some people really don't like Taion for some reason. Probably racism.
hopefully we get a new xenoblade during the June direct so that we can actual discuss something productive
>>740494836Better let's discuss which xenogirls have the cleanest xenoanuses.
>>740494836Hopefully we don't because it would be trash like XC3.
>>740492823you focus on the plot points and not the drama/though you're wrong about some stuff if the game didn't resonate with you I can't argue against that. You're right about that Nia thing though ever since the game was announced I was weirded out they made her the queen and the game doesn't give an explanation for that.
>>740495112I assume she was an admin and it made her queen in Aionios somehow.Also would make that it would better for politcal mess of Alrest if some neutral party was in charge of Origin.
>>740495209Nia was a queen BEFORE Origin was made. Melia addresses her as such through comms.
>>740495209Nope. They're called queens in a flashback before Aionios.
>>740495267>>740495269Man, I really forgot a lot of small details in 4 yearsShe called her queen because she thought that Nia is a black woman
>2 is gacha>DE is going to bring us guest characters like 2B and Aerith
>>740495458Fuck off retard.
>>740495267>>740495269Melia parallels are the actual reason most likely.But isn't she closer to Mythra than Nia?
>>740495669No one ever accused XC3 of being well written.
>>740494167Find someone who loves you as much as Takahashi hates Melia.
>>740466757It doesn't really need fixing. Being able to lower levels outside of NG+ would have been nice though.
>>740469779It's very simple.Shounen epic = GoodHarem gacha = Dogshit
>>740466757Shania sexo
>>740495735I love XC3. I think its existence also improves XC1 by having similar vibes and themes. Yes the plot is messy but the actual drama especially in chapter 5 and 6 is peak Xeno, it really made me fall in love with xeno games again and I have it tied with Xenogears as my favorite. And I realized XC3 is what I wanted from XC2. You have to be in a certain mindset to enjoy it I think because like when I got to Erythia Sea I was emotional because I'd been really the sickest I'd ever been in life.
>>740475003Enjoy your vacation?
>>740496365>think its existence also improves XC1Maybe if you hate Melia like Takahashi does.
>>740496365I just can't get past 3's dogass party. They're all so annoying and boring. All of them have the same boring child soldier backstory.
>>740466757Christ where to start?>Entire story goes against the side quests so they need to be changed completelyIt's hard to take side quests seriously when we know Mio is on a strict time limit. And it's made even worse with the side quests being built as if they can be completed any time, so there's a disconnect with the world>The story emotionally peaks with the Noah/Mio reunion and has nowhere to go after so it should have been in the endingI just don't see the point of the game peaking at the end of the second act then it just limps on for another 20 hours>The world itself being shaped as a circleI get why they did it, but it creates so many problems for making the world feel lived in and expansive.
I don't understand why Shania has such dedicated haters.Like what did she even do to warrant this? She wasn't particularly rude to the main cast, just towards the cityfolk mostly.
>>740496534She makes Ghondor and Monica look bad.
>>740466757make it Xenoblade 2: 2
I don't understand why Melia has such dedicated haters.Like what did she even do to warrant this?
>>740496534She tried to commit genocide against the entire city which includes innocent children and babies. She's objectively a horrible person. >inb4 "b-but her mom"If she hates her mom so much then she should've just killed her mom not the entire city
>>740496493Also field skills are the worst fucking thing to happen to the Xenoblade games and the fact that they're so prevalent in 3 makes me think they're going to be all over the next one too
>>740496534Canonically burns coal
>>740496613You mean OTHER than that unwarranted hostility?
>>740496694Huh?
>>740496663ok so? N also did that and I don't see people actively hate on him for that, or Noah by extension.
>>740496728You see, N is very cool swordman. And he did it for pussy (both meanings). So it's okay.
>>740496728>ok so? You really need to be told why genociding innocent children and babies is bad? >the most intelligent Shaniafag>N also did that and I don't see people actively hate on him for that, or Noah by extensionI don't like Noah/N either.
>>740496534You mean OTHER than that unwarranted hostility?
>>740496365>I think its existence also improves XC1Yuck
>>740496460I think for me it's tied with Xenoblade 1. It has the similar issues as 1 but both still a lot better than 2 in my opinion. Like in XC1 you have Shulk, Reyn, Dunban and Melia with the best chemistry and then Sharla and Riki are just kind of there and in XC3 the best characters in the main cast are Noah, Mio, Eunie and Taion(is fucking annoying but I eventually warm up to him) and the same problem with 2 members Lanz and Sena being not that engaging. 2 had a bigger cast if you add some of the blades and Vandham but I only like Rex, Pneuma and Nia the rest are not that interesting.
>>740497052>the main cast are Noah, Mio, Eunie and TaionI only like Eunie and that's only because she's hot. Noah and Mio's relationship is so BORING. Anytime they (or N and M) are on screen it's just the most boring melodrama shit ever. They have no other characteristics besides flutes. And I have no idea how anyone could genuinely like Taion. I think you just got Stockholm syndromed after playing for 100+ hours.
>>740497187Play the game first.
>>740497052>like Rex, Pneuma and Nia Shit taste. Zeke, Pandoria, Morag, Brighid, Tora and Poppi are all great and are much more enjoyable characters than anyone in XC3
>>740497252I did, years ago. Keep coping though.
>>740491092Yeah admittedly it was fucking bad. The only bit I did like was Al in his Ares when he sees his sister in space (felt like Xenosaga) and Al's chat with Lin in front of the Ares. I liked those parts.
>>740497187I like Mio because she's unbelievably pretty. But the main couple really needed better chemistry for this story.
>>740497404But they are the only couple which kiss on the screen>Fiora and ShulkThe scene was cut out right before their lips touched
>>740497404Mio is just mid IMO. Her default clothes even look better on Eunie.
>>740497479>they are the only couple which kiss on the screenSo what? The build up/execution to it was terrible. >we're in love because uhhhh.... because we've always been in loveBoring.
>>740497187Noah and Mio are not boring, say whatever you want about Taion but I really don't like this argument that because they're nice they are boring. I really love Mio in particular and I think she's the best love interest from a xenoblade game. She does not feel like a caricature and I like how as the game progresses upto chapter 5 her struggle with her remaining short time was so well written, and it was bittersweet when she had the woman moment with Noah and expressed her struggles dealing with all that stuff. The problem is the game blows its load by chapter 6 after that nothing major character development happens
>>740490549Climax of chapter 7, if I remember correctly.
>>740497764>She does not feel like a caricatureNTA but are you implying that other love interests are caricatures?
>>740489967I've been saying Xenoblade needs new writers for years. The same old anime writers Hyodo and Takeda will just churn out the same shit. I have a feeling though that Takahashi has a hard time getting along with most people creatively so the reason he sticks with the same writers is cause he gets along with them and they get him. Honestly wish Soraya Saga was still writing Xeno. Takahashi has gone on record to say he doesn't really care about the characters and is more focused on the universe of the game, so we mostly have Hyodo and Takeda "fleshing out" the main cast, I put that in quotation marks, because the characters aren't really that deep compared to how Soraya Saga would potentially write them. I'll give the writers the benefit of the doubt one last time and see how the next Xenoblade goes but I still think the series needs to inject some new talent in the writing department. It's not like Hyodo and Takeda are amazing writers or anything special, they just write standard anime characters and scripts.
>>740497479Yeah but it didn't feel earned. And I was so confused by the terrible ending that I didn't get any of that emotional catharsis. By far the most emotional part of the game is M talking to Noah in the prison.From the plot perspective, the main factor in Mio and Noah's relationship is them desperately trying not to fuck each other for like the whole game, because Mio's on death's door. And then presumably after they learn they'll be separated forever they are even more desperate to not end up fucking each other, but then they give in at the end. To really sell this they needed to have sexual tension so thick you'd have to cut it with a chainsaw.They should've had like constant intimate moments where they're holding each other's hands and stuff. More bonding time, more casual caresses, lots of blushy-crushy. They clearly tried for some of this with swapping spit-stained flutes and stuff but Mio's too sad and Noah's too boring.
>>740497764>Noah and Mio are not boringThey are. >really don't like this argument that because they're nice they are boring. That's not it, you disingenuous faggot. Rex is also nice, notice how I didn't call him boring? Noah and Mio genuinely do not have ANY character traits besides flutes and being obsessed with each other. >She does not feel like a caricature Okay, so? You've set a very low bar, lmao. And yes she literally does feel like a caricature of a generic anime/JRPG waifu.
>>740466757The story is what really needed work. I would have made Babylon 5 mandatory viewing for the writers/designers/etc. That show did what XC3 was setting out to do way better. It's not even funny. Maybe make them watch Gundam as well.
>>740497849No I may have worded it wrong I meant to say like the other Xeno love interests like Mythra for example have to use tsundere tropes to make you like them initially. Nia, Pyra, Fiora all kind of fall into this and it's not bad I just appreciate Mio for being different
Noah is just another bland Shulk. It's fucking boring atp. Matthew absolutely mogs Noah in every way.
>>740498117>the other Xeno love interests like Mythra for example have to use tsundere tropes to make you like them initiallyYou are either a huge retard, or a newfag to anime/JRPG if you think Mio doesn't fall into blatant tropes. She is a textbook yamato nadeshiko.
>>740498206Shulk was at least autistic. So, Noah is weaker than Shulk.
>>740497529Eunie's hot, Mio is pretty. Mio is ridiculously pretty. Tuberculosis pretty. Everything about her is soft and sad and ephemeral.
>>740498278>Eunie's hot, Mio is prettyYou sound like one of those "elbows too pointy" neckbeards.
>>740474725>al>protag
>>740498278Eunie is both pretty and hot, and Mio is mid
>>740498357>birdcucks are jealous of cats again
>>740498724>catfags are jealous of birdchads again fixed
>>740498724Obsessed.
>>740498221You're entitled to your own opinion but I don't think she is poorly written or tropey.She has that woman moment with Noah where she lashes out at him because of her anxiety and I think that hit me in the feels because it had been quietly building in the game and it was genuinely a very humanising moment. And I have a lot to say like can't really talk about Mio without M but I sense you don't like her and are not going to be convinced and I don't have a problem with that
>>740499313https://youtu.be/me1dXXWnlbM?si=TzaeMv8ytR-uB3PV&t=29045
>>740499313>don't think she is poorly written or tropey.She absolutely is tropey. Google what a yamato nadeshiko is. You can't just accuse Mythra of being tropey but then ignore the tropes that Mio falls into, you disingenuous faggot.
>>740491034correction
>>740488429Really love the face technology in Xenoblade 3, it is phenomenal. Shame it was limited on Switch
>>740499863>>740496534>>740496278>Characters that would be completely fixed with just good dickI could have saved her
>>740498278>>740498724>>740499313Why are Miofags like this?
>>740499929She never expressed any desire for a boyfriend. She could be a lesbian for all we know.
>>740496598they were bad
I think what Xenoblade needs more than ever right now is an evolution of its gameplay. Every game really so far has just been big open maps which are all entirely static with MMO mobs placed in them with another iteration of the same auto attacking MMO combat (go behind or at the side of an enemy for more damage, break topple daze repeat). For me at least the novelty has definitely worn off for me and feels like there's not really been a big enough innovation or evolution of the formula since X in 2015 so I wanna just see something that feels a bit more ambitious and new whether thats the next Xenoblade or a new RPG. I don't wanna feel like I'm playing another Xenoblade 2 or 3 with the same gameplay and formula just with a new coat of paint. I want them to do new things with the gameplay instead of another iterative take the same thing because otherwise it'll start to feel even more stale. New stronger hardware, they surely are taking their next big leap. I'm done with the Klaus Xenoblade linear but big maps but static and auto attack MMO combat. It needs to be somrthing more, they need to properly evolve things further so that I don't feel like I'm just playing another rendition of Shulk Fiora, Rex Pyra, or Noah and Mio story.
>>740499929Never heard of "don't stick your dick in crazy?" Retard.
>>740466757Take Future Redeemed and make it into a full game. I get that they made XC3 the way it is so that it can be played as a standalone title and not scare away newcomers but it's dumb that the conclusion of an overall arc feels so disconnected from 1 and 2.
>>740500021Taking one for the team. Rather me than a whole civilization blown.
>>740466757Make Xenoblade 2 non-canon
Not have a dozen boss fights end with the same kind of two beat bullshit cutscene where the bad guys power up and monologue at my slack jawed party even though I just made the boss eat shit with a massive team attack. Just write the story in a way where this odious player cucking isn't necessary.
Mio and Meowscarada for Smash Bros
>>740500019It's interesting that whenever stuff like this gets posted it gets ignored. I don't think people realise how bad doing the same things with the series will be for the series in the long run. It's like they're so in love with what they've been getting they just want more of the same but the series isn't going to grow and find new audiences if it just sticks to doing the same thing over and over. Its the same way Zelda had to evolve because it was getting stale. The same thing would happen to Xenoblade. More fans need to invite change rather than fight it. It cringes me out when I see people being so protective of the MMO combat too when, let's be honest, it's not exactly gonna be grabbing any awards anytime soon. I feel like the gameplay in Xenoblade is still too weird I'm not a 20 year old contrarian who is passionate about Xenoblade staying niche either or niche things fuck the system mentality. I'm actually getting sick of Xenoblade not being more popular than it is.
>>740500019I agree. I was replaying XC1 and the action in those cutscenes is crazy and then you return to the gameplay like it was actually hilarious when Sharla and juju get captured and Shulk dodges shit so fast and jumps around and shit and then the gameplay resumes and you're just standing there slowly waving around your sword. In an Ideal world it would have KH2FM critical mode type of action rpg gameplay where lots of stuff is viable if you try to make it work and the gameplay is fast and fun and satisfies all your power fantasies>>740500386This. It's even more obsolete when XC3 exists and does not have field skills, poor localization, shitty gacha and N is a better Jin. Sadly Xenoblade 2 is reddit's favorite and liked here as well.
>>740500808>N is a better Jin.You mean worse.
>>740500729>I feel like the gameplay in Xenoblade is still too weird I'm not a 20 year old contrarian who is passionate about Xenoblade staying niche either or niche things fuck the system mentality. I'm actually getting sick of Xenoblade not being more popular than it is.I've been feeling like this lately where I used to be obsessed witu the series and believed it was everyone else who was wrong and the gameplay was this amazing thing that was too good for them to understand but as I'm cooled down on the trilogy I've been thinking more abd more that maybe the combat is actually kind of shite and that the games do actually look stupidly weeb to most people with bulb-headed anime character melodrama and shit.Idk man, I still love Monolith Soft and I'm excited as fuck for their next RPG. It's why I bought the Switch 2 but sometimes I think maybe I glazed the Xenoblade games too much and they're actually kind of wack and that's why they havent really caught on or broke more into the mainstream.
>>740469779The reason is because while all the other Xeno games are a jungian gnostic sci-fi opera, Xenoblade 2 leaned to the fantasy elements and into a more light-hearted tone, to the point it felt more like a Tales Of game. It didn't help that the early Switch game status made it into the most popular entry of the series, which brought in a lot of tourists who don't get and wouldn't like the schizo-kino elements.
>>740500021But fucking her would literally stop her from being crazy? Her whole frustration stems from the fact that she feels ostracized by the society. If someone showed her compassion and love she would stop her femcel tendencies and be normal.
>>740501852You are projecting your own woes on Shania and ironically, you don't get a woman fucking you wouldn't fix your insecurities either.
God please just give the next game mechs
>>740501852>But fucking her would literally stop her from being crazy?No it wouldn't, idiot. You're definitely a virgin.
>>740502180ok, so what are Shania's woes in your opinion?
Only Kallian's dick could fix Melia
>>740502405Shania was looking for someone to recognize her efforts. A loving relationship where she was actually appreciated and yes got fucked would fix her. YOU are a virgin because you have not experienced the comfort of another person's body, the full and absolute acceptance of someone's arms around you in the afterglow. Pillow talk. She just needed some fucking pillow talk, man.
>>740502417She tied her whole identity to Ghondor and lost herself in her. Shania would be fixed simply by removing her from the city and installing her somewhere Ghondor is irrelevant and unknown so she can discover who she is.
>>740502601Fiorabros...
>>740502536This guy >>740502180 is right you are definitely projecting lol
>>740502601This is why I will never have a figure of my wife A
>>740466757Haterape Shania.
>>740502601>MashaWhy did she flop?
>>740502612This. Give her somewhere else to be. Honestly, moving away from black people would fix a lot of us. Shania is just like me...
>>740502672Hey now, I'm an unrelated third party. Sex is powerful. That's why you should wait til marriage. I wish I did. Now it doesn't hit the same.
>>740466757She looks like she needs dicking
>>740502792Didn't ask
>>740502612>Shania would be fixed if she were isolated and friendlessCongratz now she will continue to go crazier and crazier, obsess over mistreatment that she was brought onto her and find ways to destroy the city and Ghondor from afar.>inb4 nuh uh that wouldn't you are le projecting!1...it's pretty much what happens when she becomes a consul
>>740502912I never said she should have been isolated, just far from Ghondor, you retarded virgin
>>740503005She was far away from Ghondor when she became a consul.
>>740503005Was she not alone majority of the time when she was stalking the party before they reached swordmarch?
Give more control over what party members are doing. As it stands now, the game practically plays itself unless you're in chain attack. 6/7 party members are AI controlled at any given moment. If it was for me, i would ditch chain attack and simply introduce an ATB esque system where you can issue a set of orders to your party members without swapping around so you could carry them out simultaneously or in a specific chain.Add enemy level scaling as an option so it's impossible to outlevel the content. I think DE did a great job with it, no idea why XB3 failed so hard in this regard.In terms of story the game is too much of a mess to really fix. You'd have to replace basically the entire antagonist cast minus N. I would probably just make N a true central antagonist, instead of fighting Z directly have him as a devil whispering into N's ear until the very end.Do something about the lame ass ending. That was probably the least satisfying way to end the game on. Ironically a fucking tales of arise did XB3's ending better than XB3 itself.
>>740496691You're confusing her for Eunie
>>740503005she was also far from Ghondor when Ghondor was in jail...your reasoning makes no sense and you are retarded
>>740502894And yet, you received! Ahh, I'm so generous... No wonder women love me... And now, you must love me too. I know, i know, it's hard to express it. You don't have to. Just have a wonderful day, anon.
>>740502912>picWtf, why is Melia evil?
>>740502912This image proved beyond a doubt how autistic Xenoblade fans are. Complete face blindness. It's obvious this is Melia.
>>740503146>Ironically a fucking tales of arise did XB3's ending better than XB3 itselfIts a sad state when Xeno is falling behind in writing quality to fucking Tales Of of all fucking RPGs. I'd be embarrassed by that. I wish Takahashi and his writers would aim higher than Tales Of tier writing in their games. It's actually surprising the series has swallowed its pride and sunk that low.
>>740503234>>740503134>>740503086You are ALL retarded if you can't understand the difference between being physically far and being removed from the societal ties. No, becoming a consul for 3 seconds doesn't count for like a billion reasons. It's the same difference between William Adams literally becoming another man in Japan and Napoleon being forced in captivity in Elba
>>740503146But when the combat is fun it's damn amazing, I was recently playing and fighting those 3 ropls to reclaim the ferronis hulk in torchlight hill and they were 8 levels above at 60 and I was struggling for maybe an hour until I decided to run a healer build for 3 characters that have arts instantly recharge when reviving and it was hilarious how fast the chain attack gauge and interlink was increasing and then I beat them and it was incredibly satisfying
>>740495458>Somehow manages to negociate guest characters with SE>Waste it on fucking Aerith instead of Fei or Elly, or at the very least a character from a game Takahashi worked on like Crono
>>740503731Unc...
>>740503146>You'd have to replace basically the entire antagonist cast minus N.Replace the entire protagonist cast too.
>>740503530>remove her societal tiesand how is that going to magically fix her without a support system?You think that if you just plopped her somewhere random in Aionios it would just fix all her problems?Genuenly don't understand what your "solution" would entail.
>>740503586The combat can be great when you know how to use it to your advantage by equipping the right accessories and the correct builds or whatever but ive been playing Xenoblade since the first game and I still have no clue how to properly build my party in a way that makes an enemy easier or whatever like that twat Enel does. I still don't really understand how a lot of the accessories work etc. Like a accessory will say adds 3% something to something and it's like 3% in a total percentage of what exsctly. Whst is the complete percentage, therefore I have no idea if 3% is good or shit if I don't know what 3% is compared to the total percentage. Other times I can't Break an enemy so I equip the best accessory that prevents enemies from being invincible to Break and it still doesn't work.
Mythra's kid
>>740504260no one cares
>>740504065>You think that if you just plopped her somewhere random in Aionios it would just fix all her problems?Do I have to autistically state she is going to build a social life or herself someplace else from the city like every single normal person just because you are too retarded to catch on the natural dynamics of socialization? Do yyou actually just want me to write a guide to use yourself on how to make friends?
Melia my beloved
>>740504502I do!
Melly's mellys
>>740504684no one cares that you care
>>740503228No.
>>740466757Two of my biggest complaints that I remember were Ouroboros forms being fucked, and Mio's unique soul blossom art being shit for no good reason. It really irritates me when devs do stuff like that, I remember it being a potentially super useful option for her that worked on every class and had high damage, but for whatever reason they didn't make it good. Melia's talent art is proof that they know what they're doing, so wtf. It's a specific nitpick, but fuck.Ouroboros could have been usable outside combat, let you fly or glide, had stronger attacks so they weren't gimmicky side-options, had fusion arts, faster movement speed than "slow waddle", better chain attack effects that were actually worthwhile...The design is just confusing to me. Why does it all suck? For what purpose?
>>740468907Xenoblade has been shit since day 1.
shania sex
>>740504116yeah that percentage and percent difference is very important to know. So percent is multiplicative so only in the mid to late game percent matters when you have good gear and classes leveled up. Anyways, percentage point will add percentage like 20 + 20 = 40 and percent will add like 20 * 1.2 = 24.>>740505013Have you seen the speedruns of this game? The way they use interlinks actually made it click for me but yeah it's kind of shit until you unlock arts cancelling
>>740505539prove it tough guy
What if you kissed Shania right before she blowed her brains out?
>>740504541>she is going to build a social life or herself someplace else from the cityyes I am sure she would absolutely still not obsess over her failed life with her family and Ghondor>>like every single normal person >Shania>normallol
At one point, Shania was up for Ouroboros candidacy. If she managed to get it, and they managed to become Ouroboros, we'd have an infinitely more interesting and varied party for Xenoblade 3.We have Jansen as the leader, as a member of House Vandham who has Ghondor as a niece and can be Shania's partner. Stalwart prince doofus with a sensitive brat. Then we have Nissick, a humongous aloof asshole chef who would pair great with Olive, two years his senior who could tease and encourage him gently and has the most level and gentle personality of the group, and lastly we have Kryto and Cyma. Kryto is militant and stiff, by the book, and Cyma is this emotionally available veteran who knows how things actually go. Their dynamics could be so good. They're so much more interesting than the bunch we did get, and they're all from these aristocratic houses with expectations and pressures outside of being Ouroboros... Dang it. We got robbed.
>>740506260>os, we'd have an infinitely more interesting and varied party for Xenoblade 3.Oh fuck off retard. You're like those idiots who romanticize concept art.
>>740506260FUCK I wanted more Shania
>>740506409>NOOOO DON'T THINK ABOUT THE GAME YOU LIKE OR OMAGINE OTHER THINGS ABOUT IT BESIDES CANONAphantasia is a medical condition
>>740506409Talking about concept arts, I really want rock star Noah
>>740506260it's actually implied to be ghondor's fault vandham and the stone were so far awayshania got robbed
>>740506697Beta Taion looks pretty familiar, huh.
>>740506876Yeah he looks like he's about to sell you battlechips at a markup.
>>740506572Retard.
>>740504116Alot of it comes down to raw knowledge most games don't have a bestiary because of how the point of no returns work and you can only find enemy data in the official guidebooks which are completely separate from the games. Typically sub species and equivalent paralels between games retain the same fundamental strengths and weaknesses to physical/ether between games. And as a basic rule of thumb the bigger something is the higher its resistance to break. Removing elemental weaknesses in XB3 really neutered the combat the game has the facade of having massive creative freedom in team composition in reality shit is either weak to keves/agnus classes and if you are the wrong one your dead weight unable to do any damage and all of your debuffs heavily nerfed.
Grats with another good Xenothread
>>740507670Always works better when you just ignore shitheels
>>740506876>>740507001
>>740506260No one talks about how horrible of a person Jansen is. He was hoping for his own brother to die just so he could shoot his shot with Monica. Imagine that betrayal coming from your own brother
Just stopping in to say rabbits are the best, thank you for your attention.
>>740508583God DAAAAAM that's some markup
