https://youtu.be/YCjNT9qGjh4?si=uxgiB5Shd7StCb2Z&t=7061>you can't get lazy and say "oh we're moving the story forward", that's copping out of your obligation to gamers.>Yes of course they love the story, they love many aspects of it, but sort of saying that your reason to do it is because people wanna know what happens next.>We could have shipped it. It wouldn't be that hard.>My personal failure was being stumped>I couldn't figure out why doing Episode 3 was pushing anythinh forward
They would probably feel a bit more pressure to make more Half Life if Steam wasn't printing them endless money
>>740486935This, limitations do wonders for creativityOnce you have everything, your focus is all over the place, everything interesting gets abandoned and nothing gets finished, after all, why bother if you can try again for free?
That's OK gabe, your cult would never get mad at you or hold you to account
>retcons 13 year old cliffhanger to "push things forward" with VR>VR still isn't a thing over half a decade later
>>740485778>that juden like schnozzer
>that reason never kept them from making episode one or two>even though episode one and two were such non-innovators that they didn't even have new weapons>even though episode three was already set to be more innovative than the prior episodes because of that ice gun if nothing else
>>740485778Just do it to have a fucking conclusion man, not everything has to be deep just make the game fun already wtf we really need to be in connection with ourselves and understand what made us come this far, at least he should know that.
>>740488519Episode 1 brought HDR (which was already a minor addition) but what did Episode 2 added?
>>740488449>brown online fagget sees long nose and think Jewish Christ you people are annoying look up the difference between Roman and Jews nose Arabs and others with west Asian dna have big noses you can find them in South Asia west Asia and all over med areas
Lmao what did ep1 and ep2 push forward compared to the basegameThe zombine and the magnusbomb?They were the same shitGayass argument to not release ep3 with kewl smile shits and ice guns which were already way more impressive than the two previous eps
>>740490401*slimeBut I've been smiling a lot too these days
>>740488449He's an old man anon
>>740486935They would have made HL3 more than a decade ago if it wasn't for Steam. Steam allows them to coast without really doing anything but autistic tech shit
>>740487770This. He is like Donald Trump of video games. He could literally shoot someone's daughter with a gun and everyone would forget about it within a week.
>>740491692>shoot someone's daughterI don't really adore gabe and some of his practices but I'd applaud him for that. One less cunt on earth.
>>740485778>I couldn't figure out why doing [...] was pushing anythinh forwardAh Miyamoto's Dictum
>>740487138because making video games doesnt matter. We only have one thing left.Banish the Jews from power structures.Til then nothing will get done and everything will be a waste of time.
>>740490401thats epîsode not half life 3 u tardo same as opposing force or blue shfit not being half life 2 ALLO
>>740485778Ever heard >you finish what you startGabe? Let's not ptetend that a 2 hour mini expansion like ep3 would have been, just like ep 1 and 2 were, would have been some life changing experience and technical revolution The second coming of christ is what hl3 would have been about
>>740490663some say he is 5000 years old, not born of a mother nor of a man, the high priest of men
>>740485778lol. He just wanted to push gambling on kids with his pc monopoly. Fat retard couldn't care less about games.
>>740485778Half Life 2 was a glorified tech demo and I'm sick and tired of people pretending it wasn't.
>>740488519Ice gun was saved for deadlock
>FPS>storyjej
>>740485778>>I couldn't figure out why doing Episode 3 was pushing anythinh forward>>740488587Yes, just have Freeman destroy the The Combine somehow, have him become a G-man at the end or some shit. It's not rocket science.
>>740495740If you mean a demo geared towards other game developers, sure. They did try to show others how to make good games. But also, like, they improved their tech and weren't afraid to use it. Also there's a story that doom 3 had gravity gun as a dev tool. but they weren't gonna give it to players because they could break the game.
>>740491692>and everyone would forget about it within a week.Anything short of a nuclear bomb going off is forgotten about in a week, even the threat of it.
>>740485778Ok, so what this is telling me is that we’re just waiting for him to die now so someone who’s not gimmick-driven will actually finish the fucking thing.He’s the fucking George RR Martin of video games.
>>740496434wild when normalfags sperg out about GRRM like he's some paragon of literature
make left 4 dead 3 you fat faggot
>>740487770I don't even care. I've got no interest in finding out whatever was supposed it happen next.
>>740496670also TF3 you obese nigger
It wasn't worth the weight.
>>740496434It is finished. No more sewer levels, wooden crates, gray corridors, long-winded monologues, or bazinga-tier hipster bait from this series.
>>740488671>what did Episode 2 added?Cinematic destruction physics from that LotR animator Valve used to hire at the time.
>>740490401Episodic gaming, it's hard to remember but there was a time when that idea was new and popular.
>>740491692>He could literally shoot someone's daughter with a gun and everyone would forget about it within a week.nah, people would go like>OMG THAT'S LE HECKIN BASED ACTUALLYcult worship knows no bounds
>>740486935>>740487138They also have infinite money from Counter Strike and another dose of infinite money from Dota 2 while being a relatively small studio. You idiots.
>>740496434Just ask Grok for HL EP3 if you don't care about it actually being good, you faggot. >He’s the fucking George RR Martin of video games.If you want other people to finish that story then I have good news for you: That's what the TV show was, you dumb retard. >nyooooo, not like that Kill yourself.
>>740497440new particle system
>>740498063Thankfully, we got the leak from Laidlaw years and years ago.
>>740487138I think anon just meant that Valve have less incentive do make games since they are rich anyway but you make a good point too
>>740486935Not just Steam, but also all of the other games that Valve was getting involved with during that time. CS Source, DoD Source, Portal, TF2, and Left 4 Dead were all being done at the same time as HL2's episodes. Later on they had Portal 2, L4D2, CS GO, and DotA 2 on their hands, which along with TF2 were live service titles. I think Valve realized down the line they were no longer structured in a way where they could directly participate in game development like they used to.
This is preferable to sloppification.
>>740486935well between one game and an useful platform+storefront that treats it's users relatively well I think we ended up in the better timeline
>>740490401Ep1 and ep2 were mistakes.
>>740485778I hate these cunts who are so obsessed with "MUH INNOVASHUN" that they legitimately believe there's 0 point to making a game unless you can shoehorn some retarded gimmick into it.Miyamoto and Iwata were the exact same. Stubbornly refusing to revive certain series (eg. F-Zero, Metroid, Star Fox) unless they could come up with a stupid control gimmick for it where you get to jack-off a Wii remote or dance around with a Gamepad.And guess what happened when Miyamoto got sidelined and Iwata died? Nintendo stopped doing that shit, and their games improved for it. Now Nintendo's only concern is making a good game and so they've revived shit tons of previously-dormant series like Mario & Luigi, Star Fox or Famicom Detective Club. WITHOUT the need for gimmicks.Like >>740496434 said, the Half-Life series as well as stuff like Portal and Left 4 Dead are just completely fucked until Gabe retires, dies, or gets sidelined by someone younger who is focused only on making GOOD GAMES, not tech demos with games attached.
>>740497504and boy was it ever
>>740500949kys faggot, no one likes you
>>740488449>>740490118>>740490663/pol/fags dont go outside, not even to visit family members
>>740500949keep yourself safe, everyone loves you
>>740495924You mean Kelvin's Frozone shit? Not the same thing at all. If anything Prey ended up beating them too it with the gloo cannon.
>>740500978A weird experiment. Not quite a sequel, not quite DLC and not quite early access.
>>740498063>If you want other people to finish that story then I have good news for you: That's what the TV show was, you dumb retard. >nyooooo, not like that >Kill yourself.You're having an argument with someone you invented in your head.
>>740485778Half Life was never a relevant franchise.Half Life 1 was quickly forgotten and only got mentioned because of Counter Strike mod.Half Life 2 was a scam. Why was it a scam? Simple, it was made for Steam and it required Steam. The whole purpose of HL2 was to make as many people as possible to install Steam. That's it. Gabe even did the most dishonored marketing tactics ever called "publicity stunt" with the "half life 2 leak by a German programmer in 2003" (but it worked, so I don't blame him). Suddenly, Half life 2 became a big and most anticipated game ever, covered by every gaming website and magazine from back in the day. Gabe use HL2 as a bait and successfully lured everyone to install Steam. Imagine requiring everyone to install an additional software and authenticate online to be able to play in plain 2004? Yes, Gabe did it and everyone praised thinking that they were about to play the best game ever.As you can see, Half life was never relevant outside of marketing and publicity. The game is a tech demo, but not that tech demo that you are thinking about. It was a tech demo for the Steam platform, to benchmark its servers, infrastructure, user experience, scalability, etc. "B-but... the physics?!". Naive and idiot zoomer, the physics are handled by the Havok engine, a physics simulation engine found in PS2 and Xbox games.If not for the Counter Strike HL1 mod popularity, Gabe would be fucked. If not for the Dota mode, he also would be fucked. This fat fuck got so damn luck with the modding community literally giving him the holy grails.For Gabe, HL3 would make sense as an Steam Machine exclusive game, to force the idiots to buy his gaming PC, but I think that would backfire, outraging the gaming community.Therefore, you ignorant fools must stop asking for Half-Life 3. It has no other purpose for Gabe other than to please the retarded gamers. He is here for the capital, not to please you.
>>740501978>Gabe did it and everyone praised thinking that they were about to play the best game ever.not quite, plenty of us were mad as hell about having to install some online shit just to play games we paid for not to mention the latest counter-strike
>>740485778Oh fuck, he's Valve's Miyamoto.
>>740500949>games improved when iwata died
>>740502613Wii U games were objectively fucking bad, you brainrotted zoomie.Odyssey and DK Bananza both utterly wipe the floor with 3D World (AKA New Super Mario Bros 3D).
Episodes 1/2 didn't push anything forward though?
>>740492349Indian post
>>7405034421 was about if they could make Alyx work as a constant companion, 2 was about bigger maps which is mostly only in the driving parts, at least that's what I remember them highlighting in the commentary, completely minor things though and not what people remember them for
>>740492960
>>740485778I feel like if you can't come up with an aspect to "push forward" in 20 years then that implies that the genre has plateaued.
>>740488310what a silly birb
>>740485778ITT: zoomer faggots complaining were not on Half-Life Ep7 like Call of Doody
>>740500949>(eg. F-Zero, Metroid, Star Fox)>And guess what happened when Miyamoto got sidelined and Iwata died?F-Zero got a battle royale remake that only 10 people play including me and TJ "Henry" YoshiMetroid 4 was a failureStar Fox got a third remake
>>740488310>implying vr and ar aren't going to eventually merge with ai for some insane cool shittulpa headsets incoming
>>740504895oh please the AI industry is in a state of collapse
>>740500949make your own game then fag you sound like a whiny bitch
>>740485778You can still release it, Gaben. It doesn't need to remain a personal failure of yours.Who the fuck plays Half-Life 1 and 2 because they pushed vidya boundaries? All it needs is 1. to be interesting 2. to be fun. That's fucking IT.Episode 3 could have been that, HL3 could have been that.
>>740504895>merge with aiA game that always lets you win because the LLM is pre-programed to be insufferably helpful by corporate decree? sounds awesome!
>>740504995cope troon>all kids are being raised with ai to cheat on their assignments>tonnes of million+ view videos on youtube and other platforms using ai>plenty of reports of game dev studios using ai here and there>mass game dev layoffsthe only ones hating on ai are the screeching troons like you
>>740505120>i can only fathom ai at it's current level even though a few years ago it couldn't do anything and couldn't even make a proper human faceyou sound like a nigger if i'm being honestmaybe try thinking beyond the present day
>>740488449thats the nose of an old english man
>>740505361lets bereal thats jewish leftovers. depends on his family you never know but he doesnt look very jewisha jew would have added a subscription to steam long ago
>>740500678Steam is singlehandedly responsible for physical PC games disappearing from stores, and with them, customer rights. This is is definitely the bad timeline and Gabe Newell is responsible.
>>740505524physical PC games have been a joke for longer than steam has sold other people's games
>>740505524no fuck you i don't want physical copies for my 300 fucking steam games fuck off
>>740505303>The super duper AI hasn't been created yet, therefore it can do anything I think it can do because TECHNOLOGY!Grow up, kiddo
>>740505303LLM-based AI will never improve in any meaningful way, not in a trillion trillion years. It has already reached its limits.
>>740505201>ai attempts to do coding>royally and anally fucked attempts at coding>can't even code byond in for shit>ai will only be good for unreal jew and jewnity
>>740505705keep seething you disgusting fucking troon>>740505709cope, looking at early ai videos the difference is night and day, ai voices used to sound like microsoft sam, ai music used to be complete shit, ai art used to have dozens of fingers by defaultcope all you want troon you're getting replaced fucking kill yourself you disgusting pig>>740505801okay but that all applies to jeets and the kikes keep paying them to code anyways so what's your point??>>740505801
>>740485778What the fuck did the hl2 episodes push forward?
>>740505524>customer rights
>>740506049>The technology will always improve because it already improved.Real 7th grade logic here.
>>740506401>the technology won't improve more because i said sodilate
>>740506623No, it won't imporove because LLMs have reached their limit. At this point it is cannibalizing the shit being pumped out by other models and spiraling into hallucination. You "super duper AI" will not be a LLM, kiddo. If you know how to read past a middle school level, you would know this.
what theyre saying makes more sense if you realize all half-life content is gimmick based even in hl1 each chapter is 'now youre on a rail cart for an hour' there is no non gimmick based half life experience they make a new gimmick every hour or so. Thats why the last HL game was Alyx because the new gimmick was VR and if they feel like theyve done everything you can do outside of vr in a fps game and thats just how they see it. They dont want to revisit things like he says in the documentary theyve done all the ways you can fight the enemies already. This is also why bluue shift is considered the weaker hl1 expansion because opposing force stuck to this it had its own exclusive gimmicks.
>>740488449Everyone knows he's jewish.
>>740507210>no it won't improve because it won't improvewow fucking brilliantand no one has ever been impressed by your liberal arts degree faggot
>>740505524>Steam is singlehandedly responsible for physical PC games disappearing from storesNo it's not. They would have died anyway as internet speeds and storage tech advanced, making digital the superior option.>and with them, customer rights.Customer rights have absolutely nothing to do with physical vs digital. The real enemy is DRM and that can come on a disc just as well as it can in a download. There's no reason you can't own a digital game.
>>740507752It's ok, kiddo. I don't hate you, I just pity you. Good luck in high school!
>>740509056>troon practicing talking to high school kidstypical
>>740511679Don't get ahead of yourself. You still have to graduate middle school and it seems like you may be a bit behind your peers.
>>740506623the data already suggests that AI development has plateauedand other studies have found that there's no difference between the big corpo AI and privately run AIs that's installed on pcs
>>740506052>dynamic lighting>hdr>new shader system (seen in the superportal)>new particle system (seen in the bridge collapse)Go play the original 2004 build of HL2 and compare it to how Episode 2 feels.
>>740513687now compare it to this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Qo1bD5Oxw4
>>740505524there's a lot of criticisms to be made about steam and you chose the most retarded deluded one congrats>if steam never existed we would still be buying boxes!insanemovies and tv shows moved to digital distributionmusic moved to digital distributionbooks are ebooksmanga can be bought and read weekly onlinebut games would be the one thing safe from it forever, somehow
>>740513618okay so what are the troon artists capable of doing right now that current ai isn't able to do?
>>740514750create
>>740514750Nothing, bruhThey're totally pwnd and we get all the good art to ourselves
>>740515023>ugly bitches in aaa games>disgusting tumblr art with cleft lips and emphasised disabilities>furry inflation art commissionsyeah nah i think ai is already better
>>740497504Episodes were not a good idea. They were just short standalone expansions, which isn't as revolutionary as it sounds.Episode One took either as much or even more time than Fallout New Vegas, which was basically a standalone expansion for FO3.
>>740485778>I couldn't figure out why doing Episode 3 was pushing anythinh forwardThis is so fucking retarded. Just finish the story, we all know what a good fps plays like, just make a good fps, you dont have to reinvent the wheel every new game.
>>740515376>i think ai is already betterThat goes without saying, you're the exact consumer being targeted by LLMs
>>740516084plenty of ai videos on youtube that's already better than troonslop like hazbin or tadc and they don't even have characters that rant about being trans, cope
>>740517212Of course, your youtube algorithm is giving you exactly what you want. What more could you ask for?
>>740485778Honestly it really did seem like they were running out of ideas by Episode 2 so I don't blame him for that.
>>740517984you talk exactly like one of those completely socially retarded troons that goes around acting like they've come out of alice in wonderland
>>740486935Good, Steam is what prevents Valve from becoming yet another company who's only function is to defile their old series by repeatedly pushing out safe sequels and remakes for the sake of profit.
>>740507710But he isn’t ?
In hindsight, should they have made and released HL3 as soon as possible compared to not releasing it at all?
>>740519212Must happen to you often. You must be surrounded and accosted by libtards on a regular basis.
>>740500949>Completely fucked until Gabe retires, dies, or gets sidelined by someone younger who is focused only on making GOOD GAMESLike who? Where are the big-name up and coming young game devs?
>>740519617If they had tried to get episode 3 done and made sure not to end it on such a cliffhanger that they did with ep2 they would probably have spared themselves a lot of expectations.
>>740492960>posted on the video games board
>>740520495Great trees can grow from the smallest of acorns.
>>740505524Yeah great rights like>you can only install the game three times before the disc is bricked
>>740485778>>I couldn't figure out why doing Episode 3 was pushing anythinh forwardthat is the biggest most retarded ass cope I have ever seen. No one wanted anything "pushed forward"people wanted closure, always have. this fat fuck is lying.
>>740497927also infinity money from TF2, albeit less so nowadays, and will also have infinite money from deadlock real soon. they are already testing cosmetics slot in that game.
>>740522987Are the people that wanted closure in the room with you now?
>>740520915It was gaming journalists calling gamers entitled for calling out Bioware for Mass Effect 3's ending actually.
>>740523243lurk moar
>>740485778>we couldn't do HL3 because we couldn't find good enough shiny gimmicks to showcase I guess just making a good game that's loved by millions wasn't a big enough draw, eh Gabe?
>>740522987Nah he is legit like thatIf you haven't detected by now that what he really wants is to have his name in everything on the level of someone like Einstein or some other huge historical figure then i don't know what to tell you
>>740522987Half Life is the Starfox 64 of Valve.
>>740523158Yesi am, along with thousands of othersnow shut the fuck up
>>740488310god alyx was such fucking garbage, I hate how VR fags have to keep coping and pretending like the game is the second coming of christ for some reason, VR is definitely really cool for some niche use cases like vehicle games, military/tactical/gun autism, rail shooters, chat/RP/porn, but it will never go full mainstream or be "le heckin' future of gayman"
>>740485778What did half life 2 even innovate? aside from a gimmicky use of physics that really was the result of havok and general computing power getting better, and cutscenes that couldn't be skipped but you could crouch on kleiners head while he droned on. On the other hand, the game had barely any cool guns and a severely limited enemy roster. You know what would have been cool for episode 3? if they just made it noita 3D with chemistry physics and gun crafting. Would it have innovated the industry? no, but it would have been cool.
>>740492960You make a compelling argument
>>740485778>that's copping out of your obligation to gamers.Almost nobody gave a fuck about "pushing things forward", we literally just want to know what happens next.
>>740527395>cutscenes that couldn't be skipped but you could crouch on kleiners head while he droned onpeople unironically praise this shit because muh immuuuuurrrssion, half life fans are subhuman
>>740488587>Just make something you don’t want to makeNo.
>>740527395>aside from a gimmicky use of physics that really was the result of havok and general computing power getting betterThis was before your time, so you don't understand how big dynamic physics in video games was back then. The game doesn't even demonstrate the technology to its fullest extent, Gmod does. Keep in mind that this shit ran well on what you would today consider archeotech.
>>740485778>>740487770>admits his faults, takes responsibility for his own failures>retards will insist this is a bad thing actually
I just want a good game to play. It doesn't have to 'push forward' anything, I don't care about that and I doubt anyone really does.
>>740528936He's admitted his faults and taken responsibility, but is he going to make Half Life 3? I guarantee you that the answer is no. Ten more years will pass and they still won't make the fucking game.
>>740527395I wouldn't expect you to understand the move from radio to television either.
>>740528895No, I know, I'm 33 years old, but that's just valve exploiting that specific moment in history to make the first game with really good physics, but that's like being the first to make a plastic bottle after someone invented plastic, it was predestined to happen, you just made it happen a little bit sooner.
>>740529390it doesn't make HL3 but niggas shouldn't be demonizing him for what's frankly very fucking rare honesty in the industry
>>740529929I wish you were trolling but no, it appears your brain actually is that damaged. Unfortunate.
>>740529929>erm they may have done it on dinosaur tech, but it's not that impressive!Maybe you're just retarded and don't understand the accomplishment because you don't understand how difficult realtime dynamic physics is to process.
>>740528895>>740529823lmao nice argument retards, explain in your own words why it was actually revolutionary, and also please name like 5 games that came out later where those revolutionary physics influenced, impacted or changed them in any way
>>740520915>Bernie Stolar forbids anime games from Saturn and PS1, N64 gets no RPGs.
>>740530072It's been 20 years and we're still no closer to a release despite sustained demand for that entire time. Do you understand? Twenty fucking years.
>>740485778what happend to all that HL3 talk from last year? were all the leaks just bullshit?
>>740530247you can admit you weren't born yet little bro
>>740530351you said that
>>740530351Why does it matter if it would not innovate and it would just be HL2 in prettier graphics? Then there is story, but lets be real the whole story is just gman vagueposting and they do not really know where they want to take it.
>>740530461I accept your concession
>>740485778Its funny how Portal is the only Valve series that actually concluded (well TF2 as well if you count the comics)
>>740500949And I hate cunts who are obsessed for some reason with getting a sequel that just says "the G Man is some 3rd species of alien" and achieves nothing in gameplay terms
>>740530175>>740530139if it had been even five years earlier they wouldn't have been able to do SHIT, the revolution was in processing power, there was no true innovation being done by valve. it's like calling fortnite revolutionary for throwing that AI darth vader into the game, IT'S CARRIED BY THE UNDERLYING TECHNOLOGY.
>>740530539>he shouldn't be demonized for being the sole roadblock and point of failure for a game being made for 20 yearsHe could literally, today, right now, task his employees with making Half Life 3. We know he's capable of making decisions because he's done it for all their tech, linux support and even Half Life Alyx, but Half Life 3? NO! For a bullshit reason that people keep telling him that they don't really care about at this point.
>>740530680i think this all would have been easier if they just didn't make hl2 more story driven to begin with when hl1 kind of just focused on the game itselflikei would genuinely argue that source itself as an engine is 99% of where the fun comes from in hl2 rather than the content of the game itself
>no you see, the game where you have to just stand around locked in a room until the characters are finished talking, and you cannot skip anything because it wouldn't be cinematic is actually groundbreaking and revolutionary guys! you had to be there!
>>740530969You are retarded. Getting dynamic realtime physics to work on console hardware, which was shitty even for the time, was a technical miracle.>durr hurrrm it was inevitable tho it's not impressiveIt is and remains so for anyone familiar with software engineering. So it tracks that it does nothing for you since you're probably a nobody blue collar worker or NEET.
>>740530969>the revolution was in processing power, there was no true innovation being done by valveSo why can't you make your own game right now if it's this easy
>>740531364Diagetic narrative events using scripting that reacted to the player's actions was something they figured out in the first game, HL2 was about the physics. So no, it wasn't groundbreaking in HL2, but it was for HL. Most games back then were still using cutscenes and text splashes.
>>740530969>>740527395Half Life 2 has facial animation that has better syncing than certain AAA games I see that are coming out 20 years later
Gabe is the perfect example that no matter how good of a customer-focused business man you are, a bunch of whiny shits will still absolute hate you. He gets more flak than EA, Ubisoft, and Microsoft combined, yet he's always talking about the player or the consumer. He's guilty of being rich, that's it. He brought PC gaming to the table and flipped the damn thing. Long time console users have made the switch. He single-handedly caused the indie game scene to blow up. If half the CEOs and companies were run with even a fraction of integrity, we'd be eating high on the hog. Every counter-argument I ever hear is some emotional envious whining. The only legitimate criticism you could give him is if you're anti DRM and steam. However, I highly doubt 99% of my favorite indie games would have ever been created. Had they been, it'd be under some other DRM like EA or EPIC and we would be suffering.People really don't know how good we have it right now.
>>740531843>Diagetic narrative events using scripting that reacted to the player's actionsthat's a lot of words to say nothing of substance, I forgot the part where the characters react to gordon just jumping around and spazzing out, I guess they "react" if you do the speedrunner trick of bonking an object on top of their head to advance their dialogue/scripts>Most games back then were still using cutscenes and text splashes.which are better because they can be skipped, even MGS4 which is infamous for its cutscenes is more lenient and less annoying than HL2 which is kinda crazy when you think about it
>>740532456He could have made the game, he's in charge of the company, he has the authority to do it, he didn't and he still won't.
>>740531690>he goes from 1 post per minute to 0 after 10 minutes when i post thisConcession accepted.
>>740532596Choosing to not make a game isn't a strike against his character. I'm not personally wronged or offended that they didn't make a product. I'm disappointed and saddened, but if that's all he's guilty of I'll fucking take it.
to gabe half life is essentially a tech showcase vehicle and the storys just there cause it has to be
>>740532829>Choosing to not make a game isn't a strike against his characterIt is when he's well aware of the demand for it.
>>740530686you never made an argument actually, retard
>>740528936What responsibilities has he taken if nothing changes?
>>740532028and this improved gameplay how?
>>740485778he doesnt release it cause its going to be shit and they live off memes. If people turned on them they would be completely fucked, they get away with too much shit other companies would implode if they did too
>>740534346>gameplay out of NOWHERE when the conversation was about being revolutionary
>>740531378Of course it was a technical achievement, that's why they were the first, but if it hadn't been the first, someone else would have been first, it's purely a technical achievement rather than innovation. and what did half life do with this new feature? a gun that picked up debris and shot it as a projectile, and seesaw puzzles. it was nothing more than graphicsfagging. Gmod was made by garry newman, not valve.>>740531690>>740532610I went and bought a watermelon. And I never said it was easy, just that it wasn't innovative. It doesn't take a genius to extrapolate that "hmm, there is such a thing as simulated physics what if we...made the physics good?".
>>740535160>food analogy
>>740534712???????nta but why are you so vehemently against GAMEPLAY when talking about video GAMES, is the order 1886 revolutionary because it was a good looking and cinematic title for the PS4? seriously wtf are you on about, what does revolutionary even mean to you HL2 fags? you can pick up and play HL1 today and it still holds up save for the shitty xen levels, HL2 feels a lot more like a tech demo, HL1 really nails things down on a fundamentals level, HL2 when stripped of some impressive graphics and physics improvements does not hold up nearly as well
>>740532584>which are better because they can be skipped,I don't think video games are the hobby for you friend, you might want to try something else.
>>740535584I meant I went to the store and bought an actual watermelon which is why I didn't reply for 10 stinking minutes
>>740535160>Gmod was made by garry newmanUsing the source engine's highly efficient capabilities, made by valve. Retard. It's like talking to a wall, you just don't get it.
>>740535758>unironically defending cinematic, unskippable cutscenes
>>740536326If your first thought when met with a cutscene is "OHGOD I HAVE TO SKIP IT" then again, video games might not be for you.
>>740536404>people never replay gamesanon, just admit you would rather watch movies
>>740536169NIGGER WE ARE TALKING VIDEO GAMES NOT ENGINES, GMOD IS A VIDEO GAME, YOU HAVE GAME MECHANICS THAT ENABLES YOU TO PLAY THE GAME IN A UNIQUE FASHION
>>740536541No I'd enjoy watching the cutscene of the game I like enough to replay 5, 10, 20 years after it's release. I am not a zoomer that needs to beat the game as quickly as possible, I do not freak out at the idea of standing still for a couple minutes to talk to NPCs, I play video games to enjoy playing the video game.
>3D shooters still have issues with vehicles>3D shooters still have issues with big scale battles>3D shooters still have issues with ground-to-air vehicles>3D shooters still have issues with ground-air-space vehiclesThere's so much room for innovation in 3D gaming and I'm tired of pretending there isn't.
>>740492960Yeah but we cant do that so why bother
>>740537003different strokes for different folks, some people like the gameplay in a video game, shocking concept I know
>>740537027I still want to see someone take the AI concepts from FEAR and put them to work, continue to evolve enemy behavior instead of the shit we still get in single player games where everything just walks to a spot and stands still.
>>740485778>I think everybody that worked on "Half-Life" misses the working on that thing, but it's also hard not to be like, "Man, I've kind of seen every way that you can fight an Antlion," or whatever.THEN THEY SHOULDVE MADE MORE CONTENT FOR THE EPISODESThe hunters were ok but we needed more than them. Not to mention HL2 already didn't had enough weapons, just keeping the same roster for the episodes just made them seem boring.
>>740537228Then you have a few options.>Stay away from narrative focused games>Be an adult and deal with cutscenes >Learn to enjoy the narrative side of a game which you enjoy the gameplay ofYou choose the games that you play, seeing as you are a very different "folk" maybe you should learn to handle your strokes.
>>740496965>zero imsim games coming out besides Judas and Clockwork Revolution>WTF WHY WON'T VALVE RELEASE A NEW IMSIM, THEY'RE HOLING THE INDUSTRY BACK
>>740496434He's more like the Tolkien/(old) Tolkien Estate of games. GRRM is burned out, fat, and lazy. Gabe isn't necessarily lazy or burned out, just more or less obessed with only wanting to move forward with shit if whatever they're putting out is doing something new or building off their prior work in a different and innovative way.
>>740504895if you want to hallucinate, just get some shrooms for the weekend
>>740488449Only smashed and slammed meximutts post this
Valveniggers can’t count to 3
>>740485778That's really a case of being a video game guy during a rapidly advancing period fucking him over. It is fine in any medium for a sequel to not push the form forward very much but just be good and finish the story. That's not bad. They didn't not make return of the King because they couldn't "innovate" and make it a fundamentally different level and kind of thing than the previous movies were.
>>740505201short term "gains" with no long term success in sightbut the bankers will finally get their easily manipulable society of plebs to rule over
>>740537696funny how HL1 didn't have that issue, and other games seems to have a simple fix by allowing people to skip cutscenes, I know such a crazy thing to implement right?>Be an adult and deal with cutscenes lmao, the gall to even say that, with all the recent events they announced until dawn 2 and wolf among us 2, maybe those are more your speed bro
Jesus Christ it's not like you have to invent the wheel over and over again with each game.
>>740488449Your ears and nose continue to grow as you age
Everything after the first is a waste of time anyways
fuck half life 3 when are we getting half life 4
>>740505801ai is good at coding though. at least good enough to eliminate mid level coders. you will always need someone competent but most people aren't so
>>740538658it's actually consistently terrible at it, only reason why you think that is because of it winning coding competitions where it's limited to something like 20 lines of codeit completely shits the bed on anything 1k+ projects that companies maintainjust look at amazon. they put an AI in full charge of handling the coding for the website, it didn't just shit the bed it deleted everything. it left the website inaccessible for several days
>>740488519Episode 1 brought a new light system that everybody copied the year after, even had a nice demo named lost coast.Episode 2 had a lot of new physic stuff for big cinematic scenes.
>>740535784baderbelon :DD
>>740485778>We didn't make HL 3 because it would be fucking dogshitBASED
>>740500978>>740501727I think devs pulled back on it when they realized the amount of effort it would take to make something people would be satisfied with was beyond their capability to keep producing. Games aren't like a TV series where you can do 15 episodes and air the one week after another, gamers expect quite a bit more.Even with a monthly release schedule, there'd be no way to make something like a mini-RTS campaign every four weeks without it being outdone by mods outside of the most well resourced companies. Better to spend a year and make an expansion pack so people feel like they're getting something substantial.Also, the way PC games have gone, you might wind up with a Paradox DLC situation: People see the pile of DLC/episodes that cost over $150 on a sale and just don't bother. You burn out on a game, come back a year later, and find out you need to shell out another $60 just to play the game you bought with the latest updates, so they skip playing it. They'll play other games and wait until years later to pick up the complete version of the game for pennies, which means a dev spent a ton of work on a game trying to sell it piecemeal only to wind up having to bundle it all together in the end anyway.
>>740505801it is good, if you use the paid version like a serious man. And with agents you can set them up as a small team where one codes and another makes revisions until you have bug-free code.
>>740537003but the half life 2 cut scenes are shitty except for the Gman ones, it's like a dumb roller coaster ride except it's just people fucking talking, and they're talking to you despite you having no form of input or even character, it's deranged. EVERYONE just starts playing with physics or something because they're fundamentally not engaging.
>>740486935/thread
>>740537552Yeah, if EP3 doubled the size of the enemy roster and your weapon inventory, gave you a new cool science gun, had memorable levels with a new vehicle and concluded the fucking story arc then it would have been remembered as a 10/10 game but this stupid ass obsession with innovation means that gaben can't let games be enjoyable for their own sakes.
Did anyone honestly think they were playing a revolutionary game when Half-life first came out? There was more to appreciate after the fact, but before HL1 I was playing action quake and a bunch of other mods for 1 and 2, and saw that they were making the same game on the same engine. All of this whining about progress and changing the landscape is wasted on fans and just serves to jerk themselves off while selling dota skins forever.
>>740502190>>740501978I held off on Steam for years, but two things finally made me install it. I lost my discs for CS/TFC after loaning them out to friends but still had my CD keys, which authenticated against Steam no problem. I was able to download all the goldsrc games from there and continue playing them.I would've probably forgot about Steam entirely after that point except when Steam had its first major sale in like 2007 or so. A crapton of games were priced at $10, $5, some even $2. In 2007, I was still regularly going to Blockbuster to rent games for a weekend for $7 for three days, so while I was skeptical of Steam's long term staying power, I figured even if they went under next month I'd still have better value than renting.I still got boxed copies of games for a long time until they stopped making them, and even today I back up everything that's DRM free to a hard drive and make sure it runs without Steam or anything else, but in the case of most throwaway AAA titles, if I buy it for $5 and lose it a few years later, I wouldn't be so broken up on it. There's just not a lot of AAA coming out nowadays that I'd bother to play, let alone keep.
Gabe used to answer my few emails in the last 15 years. Now he doesn't even read them. :^(
>We could have gone back and made Episode 3 it wouldnt have been hard and only taken a year or two>We HAD to make L4D2 >The game that L4D fans complained came out too fast while L4D1 was still thrivingPortal 2 and L4D2 are literally the exact same shit but Episode 3 isnt?
Why do game devs feel like every game has to push something forward
I'm convinced Valve only started making games again out of boredom.
>>740539659Both fairly minor things. Valve could easily come up with an innovation of that level for a new half-life game if that was the level of ambition they were willing to settle for. Hell HDR was already done by Oblivion before episode one did it.
>>740538182I wasn't aware that HL1 and HL2 are the same game. I'm sorry you have zoomeritis, might want to get it checked out so you can enjoy video games again.Or find a hobby that suits your tastes better.
>>740485778>steam became more successful than our games so we didn't feel the need to continue ftfy
>>740542646L4D1 didn't had steam workshop and other goodies they wanted to show. That's the entire reason L4D2 exists.
>The beta for Steam has a bunch of stuff implying the Steam Machine's release is imminent>Valve was meant to announce something at the Summer Game Fest according to https://github.com/SteamTracking/SteamworksDocumentation/compare/c67ce73976e7...e1386e708308>And yet nothing's happenedWhat went wrong? I thought for sure we'd see the Steam Machine and maybe even Half Life 3 on Friday and nothing happened.
>>740485778As someone who has never played Half Life or can appreciate FPS in any way: I think it doesn't matter what his reasons are. He doesn't feel he can do anything creatively with the series and hasn't continued it and that's infinitely better than having it become a gross parody of what it was. People bitch infinitely about Halo and Star Wars, or any other IP that has been milked to death and utterly ruined beyond all recovery. Half life is better off remaining as it is.
>>740542646I will maintain to this day that the boycotters were right and that people's negative reaction to it paved the way for valve getting worse and worse since valve fans basically wrote valve a blank check when they said they'll defend valve against any criticism.L4D1 definitely had problem's with its design that led to L4D2's creation, but the question to answer there was why the fans were being expected to buy another game to fix mistakes valve should probably have avoided in the first place.Portal 2 had more justification. But between that, L4D2 and Dota 2 you got to wonder why valve couldn't have stopped to make episode 3 because they were clearly still working with source 1 at the time.
god what a fucking toolthey can't just make a really well made game, they have to come up with with gimmick to sell their game aroundno wonder this guy is a zionist
>>740544141Nobodys asking them to make a better game than HL1 or HL2 i dont think thats reasonable and it was the main fear the Alyx team had.People just want the story to finish its more like if Halo 3 never came out and instead we got Reach.
>>740544367that would be an apt comparison if reach retconned the end of halo 2
>>740486935yep the steam casino is too good
>>740537358fears ai isn't this ground breaking thing anon, they just faked a lot of its "Intelligence" with them communicating. Also realise that every area you fight them is incredibly small so that there's much less computations for them to actually do. The ai was good at faking being complex.
>>740485778yea sure fuck you you fat fuck faggot yacht you dumb fuck nigga. what a waste of my time seeing this stupid shit. I love Steam but not you you dumb shit nigga.
>>740488519I bet they already have a workable script for that episode 3 supposedly but fuck this gabe faggot
>>740545989The author finished writing the whole thing out years ago, they literally just have to make the games.
>>740485778ah yes the miyamoto disease
>>740533324>>740535784>>740532610Just for once accept you lost the argument instead of shitposting like a nigger. Just for once. Try it, it's liberating and you will grow up as a person instead of being a retarded nigger shilling yacht man's fake accomplishments.
>>740546849Just for once accept you lost the argument instead of shitposting like a nigger. Just for once. Try it, it's liberating and you will grow up as a person instead of being a retarded nigger
try hiring people instead of bragging about your profitability fat fuck
>>740488449That's a MAJESTIC AQUILINE NOSE OF ARYAN SUPERIORITY you tosser.
>>740496434Ruling is hard. This was maybe my answer to Newell, whom, as much as I admire him, I do quibble with. Half-Life had a very medieval philosophy: that if the administrator was a good man, the land would prosper. We look at real history and it’s not that simple. Newell can say that Breen became administrator and reigned for twenty years, and he was wise and good. But Newell doesn’t ask the question: What was Breen’s tax policy? Did he maintain a standing army? What did he do in times of flood and famine? And what about all these Vortigaunts? By the end of the war, Freeman is gone but all of the Vortigaunts aren’t gone – they’re in the mountains. Did Breen pursue a policy of systematic genocide and kill them? Even the little baby Vortigaunts, in their little Vortigaunt cradles?
>>740492960>banish jewsyes because the virtuous billionare white man will use his hoarded money to return civilization to glorious 1950s prosperity- ACK
>>740546849who are you talking to? I bought the watermelon and I am saying HL2 was not revolutionary.
>>740547706I mean, that's what Ford did
>>740500949> Miyamoto and Iwata were the exact same. Stubbornly refusing to revive certain series (eg. F-Zero, Metroid, Star Fox) unless they could come up with a stupid control gimmick for it where you get to jack-off a Wii remote or dance around with a Gamepad.And that’s a good thing. If you don’t have any good ideas for a sequel why make one at all?
>>740529929>valve didn't innovate anything by making the first game with good physics
>>740549073Innovation is more than pre-empting a trend.
>>740497504>Episodic gamingGenuinely has to be one of the worst ideas ever devised for gayming. Only franchise it worked well with was TWD and even then it didn't really add to the experience.
>>740549008To see the classic with new tech is reason enough.
>>740549275>no true innovation fallacy
See I wasn't around for Half Life 1, or playing FPS games during HL2, and I just didn't bother buying VR to play Alyx, so I never got to see how special the Half Life games were compared to other games at the time but I am really excited to finally get to experience Valve's innovation for 3.From what we've heard of it, it sounds absolutely amazing with all sorts of gameplay concepts.We know the Steam Machine is expected to come out during the summer and I truly believe HL3 is ready to go, they're just waiting to release the Gabecube with it. It won't be long now and I just cannot wait.
>>740549493If it was something like, aim down sights or whatever that's tech-independent then sure, but half life 2 released in the very brief window after advanced physics became possible and before everyone was doing it. That's pre-empting the trend. Their legacy was the dozens of games with shitty gravity guns, but it's far from being the inventor of physics, nor did it do anything especially interesting with it.
>>740549864lol
>>740485778The obvious path forward is a time manipulation gun. It already fits in-universe and gives a path towards reversing the cascade.
>>740550692>gives a path towards reversing the cascade.that suckshumanity can rebuild, just undoing everything is dumb
>>740549008>And that’s a good thing. If you don’t have any good ideas for a sequel why make one at all?Gimmicks for gimmicks sack isn't a good reason to make a game either. Game like Skyward Sword and Dawn of Sorrows are good despite the gimmick not because of it.
