Booted up og Dark Souls after playing Dark Souls Remastered for the longest timeOriginal looks so much better it's not even funny. Literally soul vs soulless. Also cant unsee the broken foot ik in animations.What were they thinking? All we needed was a 60 fps patch and port to modern consoles.
>>740490640how did you fuck up the remaster shaders OP
>>740490640you're retarded
>>740490640now play PTDE and notice how dogshit the controls are
>>740492702Not OP but the controls are perfectly fine.I use mouse and keyboard btw.
>>740492702The controls are exactly the same?Oh wait, don' tell me you actually play Dark Souls with a mouse?
>>740492798>I use mouse and keyboard
>>740493172I also never use lock-on
>>740493172It's just a differnt style of control. You do fine movement with the camera instead of the character, it makes a surprising amount of sense and you don't even have to claw it
Dark Souls Remastered recognizes my controller, while PTDE doesn't, so it was an easy and obvious choice.
>>740490640
>>740490640Dark Souls already feels so nostalgic I don't even like remembering it exists, it makes me sad that I'm old as shit now.
>>740490640How does this ruin your gaming experience exactly? You've already played through it multiple times. You're never getting that whimsical wonder of an experience you got as a kid anyway.
>>740494995Dark Souls is a beloved treasure cherished by millions of gamers. QLOC spit on that.
>>740490640From got lazy and outsourced it some random company, which is a consistent problem.It's why I don't understand people asking for a remake, as if they wouldn't outsource and ruin that too.
>>740494995You're just jealous you didn't get to play it.
>>740490640I haven't played Remastered since launch and it never got updates.
>>740494224What about when you need to gradually adjust the movement speed? The lack of analog left hand input is the biggest issue.I just default to controller when playing action games.
>>740498131This
>>740498145There's a walk toggle
>>740493305Rolling being locked to 4 directions actually makes locking on detrimentalWhy didn't they fix that in DSR?
>>740490640your game is broken
Which Dark Souls 1 is better? Xbox 360 or PS3?
>>740499919>he plays moddednice try falseflag kun
>>740492702retard
>>740490640every remaster is a cheap, low effort cash grab, so they werent thinking about anything except money
Particles and darkroot garden look better in DSR. That's about it
>>740500363that isn't modded , that's the remaster base game
>>740500154360 just for being backwards compatible. I'm playing it on a series S at locked 30 fps.
>>740498994The game is balanced around you playing locked on which is why so many bosses turn into absolute jokes who will never hit you with a single attack in a million years if you fight them locked off.
>>740500753The path that leads up to the wolf ring is blue for no reason whatsoever.
>>740493172it just works, never had a problem in souls games
>>740490640Is there still no mod to fix the shitty remaster assets and lighting? There was that re-remaster mod but it changes a whole bunch of other shit too. I would just use DSfix on PTDE but it breaks the sun/sky rendering and 60 fps is broken too
>>740502168dsfix 60 fps is fine. Just hit backspace to disable it before you do the one broken jump or go down the one broken ladder
>>740494715Are you playing pirated PTDE? You can just add it to your Steam games list, that fixed it for me
>>740492798>that disgusting jittery movementKBM fags are mentally ill
>>740502168The sun occlusion bug is still there in the Remaster, actually, kek.60fps is indeed much worse, the game murders even modern CPUs in Blighttown and the likes. I just play it at 30.
>>740502541Fast and precise controls >>>>>>>>>> muh smooth movementYou can't even move the camera yourself while fighting something so you are permanently locked onto shit.
>>740503102>You can't even move the camera yourselfSkill issue.
>>740500753No, everything looks worse in the Demaster. The particle effects look shit too, ruined the stylized bonfire swirl, ruined the pyromancy effects. Even little things like the particle effects for when you slam a Zweihander into the ground, which in the original is a nice subtle effect, but in the demaster it kicks up a ridiculous amount of dirt like a grenade just went off under the ground, and if you're on solid ground it kicks up giant rocks everywhere, the new effect looks straight out of a cartoon it's SO bad. I should actually make some comparison webms
>>740503102>Fast and precise controlsIt's literally LESS precise, especially when you're playing unlocked as it means you can only move and aim attacks in 8 directions which is utter shit
>>740503680I can aim with the camera, which is analogue and has unlimited directions.
>>740493305never played a souls game and every single fight looks like you roll around dodging everything until boss stops for some reason then you hit it
>>740503540Yeah wtf is this. They thought the fire was supposed to be like a real bonfire and not some otherworldly phenomenon?
>>740503950There's a reason it's called rollslop
>>740503786Can you backstab an enemy while unlocked?
>>740490640Why are modern devs afraid of contrast?
>>740504328Yes, see>>740492798
>>740503950>"it looks like [explains gameplay], wild innit?"
>>740490640Both are soulless, you fucking faggot.
>>740503786Which means you need to keep babysitting the camera ALL the time and always keep the enemy at the center of the screen, otherwise you miss due to 8 directonal aiming. Face it, keyboard is shit
>>740504398Looks like shit but fair enough I guess.
>>740500772That looks legit cool, how did you set that up?
>>740504491Your favorite slop is soulless, suck my cock faggot
>>740503950The DLC was the turning point where these games went to shit and became exactly what you describe, before there were blind spots you could aggressively position yourself into and not roll just to survive and wait your turn like you're playing a western boss fight. Demon's Souls and Dark Souls are really great games, if you can live with the fact you'll never find anything like them.
>>740504673DS1 is the only good souls game.
>>740503950>looks like you roll around dodging everything until boss stopsIt's funny, because almost nobody plays like this naturally their first time playing. Most people will start of using shields heavily and will slowly lean the game like this, and this is a good way to play regardless, while and rolling around randomly can actually result in getting punished heavily unless you already know what you're doing.I strongly recommend playing Dark Souls 1 if you haven't before, because it's basically an amazing adventure game with a super interesting and well structured world to explore. Please ignore what these vids made by people with hundreds of hours playtime look like, the game is a lot more interesting than that and has stupid amounts of cool shit to discover.
>>740504515>you need to keep babysitting the camera ALL the timeHave you ever played with a mouse? You're making it sound like aiming with a mouse is some kind of herculean task.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93LFz_j5fQAWhat a fucking game. I think this was the last game I was truly hyped for after DeS. Actually the project beast stuff was pretty rad too.
>>740505252Maybe someday. Everyone seems to like them a lot so they must have some merits.
>>740500363I'd like to see you play PTDE without mods retarded-kun.That shit was literally unplayable.
>>740500772It's definitely a mod, the original textures for armors are still unfixed to this day.The thing is, this game with mods looks better than PTDE with exception of firelink, that PTDE blue is just unmatched
>>740512501The stock PC version was essentially the Xbox 360/PS3 version except it ran better since you could brute force 15fpstown with a good enough CPU
unironically the switch version of the remaster is the best looking version
>>740513328PC is better
>>740513047Really can't tell if you're that stupid or just ragebaiting, good job.
>>740514289Anon said it was unplayable, but PTDE PC was just a straight port of the console version. Unless they are trying to say the console version was unplayable too (the version almost everyone initially played since PC came out a year or so later)?
>>740503540>headcanon retards are STILL upset their gay little theory about the bonfire not being actual fire was wrong so they tell you From "ruined" an asset they created themselvesLMAO get fucked faggot
>>740517025>so they tell you From "ruined" an asset they created themselvesoutsourced
>>740515379Historical revisionism only goes so far anon, PTDE to this day, with all the patches and mods, still can't maintain 60fps which it didn't matter anyway because playing above 30fps breaks the physics, and no dsfix doesn't fix any of this, the controls were terrible to the point that you needed a controler but good luck because anything that wasn't a xbox 360 controler didn't work, online was basically lag switch simulator.>Unless they are trying to say the console version was unplayable tooIt literally was considered unplayable at release, they had to patch a lot of shit, blighttown on ps3 used to get single digit FPS, that was insane.On pc you have the old PTDE with broken and unfixable hardware/physics/gameplay problems that was never fully fixed and remastered that fixes all of the performance problems but fucks the visuals, but nowdays you can't fix the visuals(except for the original firelink armor effect) and have to perfermance.
>>740517025Fromsoft didn't make the demaster, it was outsourced to QLOC which is some shitty no name company. Imagine acting this confident and arrogant while being wrong. Just from one post I can tell you are an utter low IQ subhuman who should be ground into paste
>>740515379Online was completely broken for the longest time for one. Fuck you if you had a ping higher than 100ms to the average player, you couldn't summon anybody, you couldn't get invaded, everything would time out. PTDE also had extra input lag and there's an exclusive crash on a long fall in Catacombs.
>>740517864but nowdays you can fix the visuals(except for the original firelink armor effect) and have the perfermance too.*Fixed
>>740517864>>740518349>PTDE to this day, with all the patches and mods, still can't maintain 60fpsYes, because it was a straight port of the console versions which ran at 720p at a hard-capped 30 fps.>It literally was considered unplayable at releaseNo it wasn't>blighttown on ps3 used to get single digit FPS, that was insaneYeah it was shit, as I said at least on PC you could brute force 30 fps in blighttown with a good enough CPU.>OnlineMaybe online was fucked for PC for some. Personally I didn't notice any difference in online between console/PC.>PTDE also had extra input lagDoubtful>there's an exclusive crash on a long fall in CatacombsI can't find any reference to this, nor have I ever experienced it. Probably exists, but is rare.Again Anon said it was literally unplayable without mods. No it fucking wasn't.
>>740492798>mousefixyou didn't beat the game
>>740517864>On pc you have the old PTDE with broken and unfixable hardware/physics/gameplay problemsThe only issue is running 60fps when sliding down certain ladders and making a specific jump. Otherwise it's a non issue>>740519692>but nowdays you can fix the visualsThere's no fixing shitmastered's visuals
>>740521146>only issue is running 60fps when sliding down certain laddersIt's never running at consistent 60fps, wtf are you talking about, anon? DS1 is jank and that's how it's supposed to be.
>>740521608>It's never running at consistent 60fps, wtf are you talking about, anon? DS1 is jank and that's how it's supposed to be.What do you mean never running at a consistent 60 fps. With a decent CPU and DSfix you can indeed run at a consistent 60 fps. There are other issues like jump being short, and probably timer based status effect stuff being double speed, but it will run at 60
>>740492798>>740494224>>740501621KBM for first person games is great. But for 3rd person games, it feels too jank and disconnected.
>>740504673You mean the bosses were braindead and you could circlestrafe and assstab them to death.
>>740496501>even at his most chivalrous, he still drew the ire and contempt of the foid
>>740523486No, I had to learn their movesets to position myself through rolling and attack the openings, only 2 lets me trivialize them all with blind sprinting.
>>740493305>ninja flip ringcringe
>>740524831You go fight two guardains faily, there is nothing fair about that fight
I know
>>740518349On console all you need is open NAT type. On xbox I connect in milliseconds.
>>740527386It wasn't a connectivity issue, the game was configured wrong on launch and you couldn't get any online activity going at all beyond signs if your P2P pool was composed of foreigners, only 20 slots available. It took them months to fix that.
>>740527703What do you mean, it's still 20 slots. It wasn't fixed, it doesn't need fixing.
>>740530730That's not what was fixed, you receiving/sending signs and invasions so late they would always time out was. I'm bringing up the amount of slots to exemplify how your pool would always get polluted with players you couldn't connect to if they didn't live near you. GFWL was so fucking slow to fill these up too.
>>740513682>how they massacred my boy
>>740531280Would this issue not also be present on consoles then? I didn't engage much with the online beyond dealing with the occasional invader, summoning, being summoned for covenant items, etc. and didn't notice much difference at all between console/PC. But I was also in oceanic region which is always fucked for this stuff.
>>740532828It wasn't, I actually looked up footage of people from here playing on 360 back then and it just worked. Like I said, they eventually tweaked it and I could finally play online.
>>740490640ds1 is better at 30 fps and without remaster bugsi do like the remaster tho but its better to play the og pc release or 360
>>740504597turn the in game brightness slider down. That's it. The default setting is too high so it lacks contrast.
>>740512869It's not a mod. If it were a mod I'd say.
>>740503950https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xe1BwQxZemk
>>740492702Controls are still shit in the remaster.
What's the best way to play DS1 on PC nowadays?
>>740499919I tried to tell him in the first post of the thread but the retard is just that retarded.
>>740490640Yeah I play PTDE with DSFix. It's fucked that it's not available anymore on Steam.
>the bug that randomly desaturates textures even more
>>740490640Yeah it sucks, visually the ps3 version blows the ps4 version out of the water, but it has horrendous performance.>>740494995I care.
>>740503950Because those game not that great on defensive mechanics. You either keep rollin', or sitting behind some big shield. There's hyper armor tanking as well, but effectiveness of it differs from game to game, being good in DS 1 and absolute joke in 3. Also the more series progressed the more tracking were added to enemies attacks, to the point when they do almost 360 turn mid swing to track you.
>>740493305Based. KB+M is absolutely superior, especially since you can flip the camera fast. And locking on is for retarded noobs.
>>740490640>From the company that reused low quality assets on all their games comes: no-effort demakeWoah
>play game about fromsoft's favorite shit: autistic detail, menu labbing, deadly mooks and gamer planning>laser focus in on the bossfights because you're a sperg retard normie>everyone else also does this because they are sperg retard normies>bound by investor will, the series shifts towards laser focus on bossfights and iframes>sperg retard normies do not understand any of this causality>sperg retard out and invent the phrase "rollslop">be shocked they got exactly what they bargained forall of (You) are why we can't have nice things
>>740502236It's only one ladder that's broken? Just replayed PtDE with dsfix and hit backspace before sliding down every ladder.
Xbox 360 - 2x resolution - brightness 7
>>740517864The ONLY issue I found with 60 fps via DSFix was single ladder left to the bridge wyvern, which makes you fall to death under textures if you slide down. Literally one (I repeat, ONE) problem, which can be avoided by not sliding down on the ladder.Can you enlighten me, and tell me if there's any other issues with it I'am missing?
>>740544671Yeah I think it's the ladder that leads to the three rats below hell kite bridge
>>740544986Emulator?
>>740544986DSfix - 1440p - brightness 3>>740545157Xenia Canary
>>740545242Remastered - 1440p - brightness 4Also >>740544986 is original release, not PTDE
>>740517864The only area in PTDE where the fps tanks hard no matter what is where Ceaseless Discharge is. Runs fine by me. Game looks better simply because of the lighting. Someone needs to post a video or pic of entering Darkroot Basin from Andre. Perfect place to compare the lighting.
The differences between PTDE and Remastered are so minor. I can't imagine caring this much, all these years later.I own both versions. I've owned PTDE since like 2013. I'm an old man that bitches about remakes and remasters. DSR is so fucking minor.
>>740545372Immediately put off by the shrinked health/stamina bar.
>>740545242What the fuck why is your MC so fucking fat in the PC version compared to the xbawks?
>>740546231Because I made a fucking chonker m8
>>740545242The shine in the OG is pure sex, can't believe they got rid of that. They made everything look WORSE and didn't even address the flaws in the graphics like missing cloth physics
>>740546231>>740546349Also the FOV is zoomed in for DSfix for some reason. Maybe PC PTDE or DSfix related dunno.
>>740490640The OG Dark Souls does take a lot of inspiration from OG Demon's Soul's Foggy Aesthetic. I'm sure this was a silent hill style fix to help the system not have to have such a large draw distance, but it still gives such an old charm and flare to the original releases.
>>740546618They lowered the specular lighting because it makes everything look wet. They lowered it too much.
>>740545372>it even has anti-sovl fog
>>740490640I always liked how armor gleamed and everything else was like dark blue/green with depth of field to give it a your a small person in a dark fantasy world sort of feelfirst time I got high with a friend the strange world and shiny armor was mesmerizing, and then we got to the forest area and the game crashed and spooked me lol
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>>740490640>What were they thinking? All we needed was a 60 fps patch and port to modern consoles.Unfortunately people whine and cry if you do that. RDR was a fantastic remaster: 60fps, 4K, HDR, modern platform support, almost everything else untouched, like it should be, but if you go to any comment section it's filled with mouth-breathers complaining that there's almost no difference and that it's not worth it.I'm glad Bluepoint didn't get their hands on Bloodborne, now there's still hope we'll get a faithful remaster/port at some point, unlike Demon's Souls, where the original version will never see the official light of day thanks to their garbage.
>>740545242DSfix - non-chonker edition. Not FOV related, just a massive fat cunt.
>>740499919Looks like shit
>>740547974>Unfortunately people whine and cry if you do that. RDR was a fantastic remaster: 60fps, 4K, HDR, modern platform support, almost everything else untouched, like it should be, but if you go to any comment section it's filled with mouth-breathers complaining that there's almost no difference and that it's not worth it.It's happening right now with the Hitman trilogy remaster, too.>Ugh, bro, it looks the same, so boring!>Why even make a remaster?
>OP states a well-documented fact that has been acknowledged for years>immediately gets swarmed by niggers defending the mediocre Polack remasterI don't get it.All this thread is missing is someone shilling FromSoftserve's trash.
DSfix
Remastered
Is there still a way to play online with the original? Like 85% of the fun I have is being a sunlight warrior and helping other people beat shit.
>>740542806B-bros?
>>740542806Remastered + Mods for soloRemastered for Multiplayer
>>740552365Which mods for solo?
I've played both versions a bunch of times. I think you fags get caught up on the graphics too much, they're both basically the same game. The real sin was splitting the community
>>740552451dsfix
>>740552486DSfix for remastered?
>>740492798>>740493172>>740502541>>740523227I got bodied by Kalameet like 20 times while playing with a controller.Switched to mouse and keyboard and beat him on my first try.Can someone genuinely tell me what happened there?Because i don't understand, i play most third person games with a controller, i don't understand how i did it, did i unlock my latent PCfag powerup?
>>740552486Oh I see, you meant PTDE w/ mods for solo
>>740547314Everything looks wet because everything is wet. The first parts of the game are all in dank moist areas with moss growing everywhere. On the other hand, places like Anor Londo don't look wet. The original devs knew what they were doing, there was no reason to fuck with it.
>>740494715>PTDE doesn'tI use an Xbox 360 controller and it picked it up instantly. What controller are you using?
>>740552624Its just a case of something breaking your bad habits. You knew what to do mentally, but had some performance block that switching to a new control style let your brain reset on.
>>740553808Thanks for the insight anon
>>740552624You probably stopped locking on
>>740552184You can still manually connect to players with wulfs connectivity mod, there's no matchmaking server to connect you with random players though
