https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuclsDMslyQ
>>740535345Comes with support for fan missions apparently, according to Steam page :"Built-in support for custom campaigns, enabling access to thousands of hours of additional content."
>>740535345I have de souling fatigue
To this day I think Garret's VA has one of the most relaxing voices ever
>>740535567So its confirmed that this is at least a version of the game with the patch already applied, huh?
https://store.steampowered.com/app/4200960/Thief_The_Dark_Project_Remastered/>Kex engine >those soulless models>those blurred out HD AI upscaled looking textures >dev said they re-recorded the voice lines, unnecessary and retarded I'm gonna fucking puke. bet it doesn't have EAX audio support either
>>740535345Massive Thief fan (even FMs) here for a few decades, this looks like a super lazy cash grab, holy moly. There are mod packs to remaster the game with the help of AI already, and many different styles of texture swaps ... And it's only the first game, doesn't even include the second game...
>>740535345>>740536028Reminds me of that Deus Ex "remaster"
I mean it was obviously going to happen once system shock 2 was done because they already converted its engine to KEX
>>740535345>Play the hitman and thief series for the first time in 2025>they both get remaster announcements in 2026i have the cheese touch, any old franchise you guys don't want me to curse?
Thread themehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGZa5vQCP9Y
>Mission selectorAlways found it so weird that there's no way to do this and it took a remaster to get it. Unless I'm wrong?
>>740536328splinter cell
Love Thief. Love Stephen Russell. Hate Nightdive. This looks like a completely soulless "remaster" like all the others they've made.
>>740536445System Shock 1 was pretty good, though.
>>740535949I suppose they completely rewrote the game engine, but kept it to specs of the original dark engine + patch
>>740536328Play every single fucking game ever made so this industry can collapse once and for all
>>740536028Those new models killed System Shock 2 for me too. They should really do something else, this rounded style maybe worked for Quake but that's about it.
>>740535345I hope it's not just a graphics wrapper and actually has some improvements to the engine that carry over into dromed.
>>740535345Why color banding is still a thing?
They know they can't fuck this up, right? Like you can argue that Deus Ex was too niche to go all the way in or whatever, but Thief is still fucking alive and have an active community. Its not Doom, sure, but this is the easiest fucking way to make your money back if you do this right. They NEED to be open to feedback on this.
>>740536328Î Have No Mouth And Must Scream is barely playable it is so broken.That shit has no fanpatches or anything and is honestly sueable that it is still sold in the state it is in.
>>740535345instant buy. but fuck nightdive.
They're not going to be stupid fucking assholes and delist the PC ports on Steam that go for less than fucking 70 cents, are they?
>>740536372lmfao no way, i was actually planning to get into that series sometime this yeari did play a lot of Blacklist as a teenager (both online, coop and singleplayer) but i've never touched the old games
>>740536717Honestly I wouldn't have minded a System Shock 1 like remake. That game was flawed but I really enjoyed it and I thought it measured up to the original well.Just enough of the remasters, nightdive. Make some fucking games.
>>740535345Meh, I played the whole series and it's flawed as fuckamazing stealth mechanics and setting but the objectives make the nice maps to go to waste1's surreal environments can only suffer with the HD treatment
>>740536821of course they will.
>>740536846cant be any worse than what ubisoft ISNT doing to SC
>>740536851>Just enough of the remasters, nightdive. Make some fucking games.I am absolutely fucking curious what they would make with what they've worked on. They've made mistakes but I trust their direction more so than the cunts at Bluepoint.
>>740535345>nigger diveThis is no different than Paradox or some other massive corporation using games to get paypigs.>it's le hd, because I downloaded some shitty 2x texture pack from some ESL!>>740536531They removed a lot of weapons and couldn't be bothered figuring out how to modernise the levels. It's not worth buying. None of this shit is.
>>740536350Very good. I did not see you approach.
>>740536821You better tell your friends to buy that shit right now if they still don't have the games on their libraries.People are playing through FenPhoenix's mod manager anyway, but still.
>>740536605aye. idk why devs can't just leave shit alone. is nothing sacred? to me games like Thief, Quake, Unreal etc are beautiful in their own way. it's interesting to see developers try to work around limitationsplus the stiff animations look out of place with these newer models, something they didn't even bother to fix with new ones
>>740535345Getting real tired of demasters. The models look pretty bad and high-resolution textures on very low-poly geometry is jarring.Since it's nightdive I suppose it's going to be technically competent, but there really is no point since digital copies of the game already come with the fan patch and it just werks out of the box.
>>740535345Totally unnecessary imoThose are one of the few PC games that have aged extremely well. Instead they should remaster or remake something like Hexen 2, but they want to bait the nostalgia fags so bad.
>>740537329true, but it's hard to get a hold of Thief TDP, the superior version. all the storefronts only have Gold
>>740537270I really hope we will quickly get a mod/filter/wtv for pixelated textures. I really don't like how 'clean' the remaster looks like.
>>740536821>>740537184Some games should be considered abandonware regardless of what scummy company bastards holds the license to them in 2026. I don't care if it's Steam or GOG. Do not buy nearly 30 year old games.
>>740536910what difficulty did you play? expert basically makes you explore the entire map`
>>740537557The problem with that is that abandonware doesn't put up those old ports despite the fact the remastered version being a completely separate product so that leaves the old version of the game to be just out in the void hopefully surviving off like three or four seeds. I guess you could argue it could end up on archive.org but I'm not too familiar with how good that site is on game preservation.
Why not metal age as well?
>another game raped in search results and discussions and mistaken for the soilentdive slopmaster
>>740537270You vill buy the hyperrealistic JC Denton at $50.>>740537634Not only that, but complexity doesn't mean more fun. The Bonehoard, arguably the most complicated T1 level, has lots of simple objectives and things to do, it's not forcing you to do multiple complicated things if you don't want to.
>retarded third world kids who don't play video games screaming about demakes and "slop" instead of hoping for improvements to dromed and the underlying physics and scripting in the game because FM mappers are already hitting hard limits with maps like Reflections in RedIf any of you dumb shitskins actually played video games, you'd talk about more than surface level blanket statement complaints.
>>740536821Being able to do that is definitely one of the reasons they're demastering it. Why sell a game for $0.70 when you can slap in a low-effort texture and model "upgrade" and ask for $30?
>>740537756>Why not metal age as well?Metal Age aged more gracefully than TDP.
You can already remaster the game with texture packs if you look a little on the ttlg forums. The bonus is that, you can keep the "feel" of the OG vanilla, or change for a grittier look even. The models become a little better too without that soulless "Remaster" feel like what was presented here.But if you want to play FMs though, you better let the original textures to avoid conflicts.All of that can be configured really quickly with the help of AngelLoader, for all three games!Loading a FM, loading the textures pack, loading the original games, all within the mod manager super quickly with the press of a button.The Thief community are insane people who've done so many things for more than 25 years, even multiple FULL GAMES that are better than the originals.
Fuck off with gaymasters
>>740538021>FULL GAMES that are better than the originals.let's not get too carried away
>>740535345The audio design of these games is so great, even the cutscenes had so much atmosphere and texturehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iye3Xtbetbg
>>740535345I'm somehow both surprised and not surprised at all that this exists. NewDark makes the game perfectly functional and you can customize it to match the original version too if you want, at the same time this and Deus Ex are the prime targets for cheap demake shit Now that I think about it, it will split the fanbase too considering fan missions are still being actively released to this day
>>740535345let me guess, doesn't come free if I already owned the original, right? Then it's irrelevant.
>>740537954Well duh they only care about the skin colour of a character and then point at the screen when someone is as dark as their seanigger reflection.
I dont care about grifters im happy I can play it on ps5 now
Disappointing, I thought they at least went The Dark Mod kind of remake instead of this. So they're just fucking with the texture resolutions, lighting and voicelines? At least it's neat to run on modern systems. I'm sure you can just download a fix for that for the originals but this should be right out of the box.
>>740535345So will it sound as good as the original game when you had an A3D card?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siAyIWqBdmcWe have the tech now, don't we?
>>740536028Holy shit this looks badHow can a +20year old game look better than a modern remaster. Look at how Black Parade mogs the shit out of this garbage
>>740537634Normal, but I actually meant the opposite of what you are trying to saymany of the requirements to complete the missions are extremely slow to complete if you are not using a guideHad to abandon my pacifist run because exploring The Sword was too slow with guards around. which reminds me some guards simply know you are there even if you are completely still in the darkness
>>740538084There are full campaigns that are much better than Thief 1 or 2. Some FMs are hit or miss, but there are thousands of them. Some FMs are masterpieces of level design.And the last full game that was released "Black Parade", is indeed a better game than the OGs. Many Thief fans feel that way, not just me. Also many FMs are very experimental in their approach, with many good stories that are sometimes better written than the main games.Some FM authors have been doing their craft for WAY longer than the original devs, at this point, they have completely mastered the engine. (And it's such a shitty engine to work with...)
>>740538371>no mouse support>no portability>have to log in every 30 days to be able to playworst version by far
>>740535345It looks like absolute fucking garbage.
>>740538421>At least it's neat to run on modern systems.This has been a literal non-issue for 10 years or more. From the original Steam 1998 version download, you get a little .exe program, and boom, your game runs perfectly with the correct resolution etc.You can EVEN download a little program to simulate the EAX echo sound effect the original games had if you had a Sound blaster Creative sound card.
>>740538652WHY IN GODS NAME I WOULD WANT A MOUSE PLAYING ON MY PS5 YOU FUCKING RETARD
>>740535345What's the point? Hd textures look like shit compared to original
>>740538590>massive Thief fans excited to play it for the first time, asking if they messed up by starting with TBPOpinion disregarded
>>740538421>I'm sure you can just download a fix for that for the originals but this should be right out of the box.At least on GOG it just werks, you don't need anything. You get widescreen support and all.
I don't understand remasters, the existing games and fan missions work great still
>>740537465Nah, Gold is superior, also this version is Gold.
>>740539128>I don't understand remastersmoney
>>740535345No Gold content? I know the levels are controversial, but I enjoy Mage Towers and Song of the Caverns.
>>740535345>newdark already exists for modern supportSo what's the point of this? New textures look terrible
>>740539128It's for the modern audience.
>>740539128>i dont understand remasterswhat if you could sell an old game that went for 1 dollars before, now for 50 bucks, wouldnt that be epic? heres your reason
>>740538518Yeah Thief is a slow game, if you found it slow on normal you'd despise it on expert. My first playthrough took 50 hours, full blown pacifist on expert (I didn't pick expert on my first 'through because I think I'm hot shit but because I read that the other difficulties literally remove chunks of each level). With that said, I don't think that makes it flawed, but if you're a 15hour game type of guy it's definitely not for you, probably no immersive sim is.
>Buy Thief: Remaster>The changes suck>Played more than 2 hoursMoney stolen.Devs: And that's a good thing
>it's gonna have achievementsoh boy
>your favorite game gets a shitty remaster
What for? TDP and Metal Age are fine
>>740535345will rip the voicelines. won't be playing. nightdive suck me
>>740535345I'm guessing that Black Parade won't work with this
Is there anything a remaster like this could improve about Thief? Everything has been patched at this point, you can even watch the AI upscaled cutscenes on youtube if you love that kind of shit
>>740539384almost like it takes time and money in make a new game
>>740536028Some of you motherfuckers don't deserve anything good. They should have had Aspyr remaster this game so you actually know what a shit remaster actually looks like.>>740537270>why devs can't just leave shit aloneIts a remaster. You are complaying about them remastering things. What the fuck are they supposed to do?
>remastered to look 25 years old instead of 30 years oldwooooow
neat, will buy it on ps5 on sale
>Try to kill everyone with the sword just for a change of pace>Hammerites doing their little wibbly wobbly sledgehammer one-handed half uppercut from between their legsI get it, you don't want to make duel fighting viable but that's just a big wonky fuck you to the player trying to block it.
>>740539804Mission selector.
>>740539785If it does you'll get to enjoy a mixture of TBP textures alongside the nu hd textures
>>740539931Their hammer will smite thee
>>740539858>They should have had Aspyr remaster this game so you actually know what a shit remaster actually looks like.How about no remaster
>>740538090Well, if they could somehow get the cutscenes in 4K it'd be at least worth it.
>>740535345did atari woke up and started to release remasters left and right?
>>740539785The Steam page explicitly states compatibility with FMs.
This doesn't look good bros...
PLAY THE BLACK PARADE NOOW
>>740539931yeah hammerites are the most troublesome melee human/humanoid enemies tg and t2 combined. they're harder to deal with than haunts, and while rogues/thieves are faster, it's easier to get behind them while hammers can track you perfectly while you try to circle around them, also hammers' got those bullshit attacks from impossible angles. mechanists are wimps in comparison
>>740540143That's not how it works. Those FMs are all built to work on specific versions of NewDark. They'd have to be remade for the remaster.
>>740537465Holy shit, the green rat spirit!
>>740540150Feels like Judge Dredd: Dredd vs Death, up in here
>>740540229>Those FMs are all built to work on specific versions of NewDark.I have not played any FMs that don't work on the 1.28 patch.
HD mod bros... we're vindicatedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPNGGxF2NVA
Beware the dawn of the Metal Age™https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSdXZv7rJg4
>>740540281Yeah and I doubt the remaster will have NewDark compatibility on day 1.
>>740539535Okay, fairExploring is fun and once you learn where things are I imagine it only gets better but a few maps are actually pure chores and fetch quests (the one wher eyou get the eye and the final stage of 2)
>>740540150
I'd rather play the original with the fan patch and the HD texture mod
>Metal Age remaster is announced one year later>All the copper has been recolored green/blue "because it looks cooler"
>>740540354It literally says it does. Why do you keep making baseless claims when they've explicitly said otherwise?
thief is the most overrated of uncslop
>>740535345what's remastered about it? looks the same
>>740540385The mod where the author inserts pics of his gf into game artwork?
>>740539816It's not a new game, it's a remaster.
>>740540441Fuck them and their shitty demaster.
>>740540092What if you weren't born?
>>740540585Thief is one of those games that are exactly as good as people claim it to be, and to this day you won't get a better DnD Rogue experience in gaming than Thief
>>740540682>this is reality?>well fuck all remaster slop!Do you even play FMs or are you just here to shitpost?
>>740540621
>>740540828Lmao
Are there that many people out there who couldn't install the NewDark patch?
>>740536028I don't see anything in that store page saying they redid the voice lines, and the one in the trailer was the original.>>740536154No that one was being remastered by literal pajeets, just look at it. Apparently it was bad enough that it's on permanent hiatus, Eidos removed themselves from any kind of involvement with it, and if you remember Sony had to trot out the PS2 port of Deus Ex for their show after the remaster was shown like it was a consolation prize for Playstation owners.
>>740536445
>>740536758What the fuck are you talking about, it's bundled in with ScummVM
>>740535345I'll buy it because I love the series, but I'm really not feeling the visuals; although it's probably just nostalgia goggles.
it's kinda sad that this is going to be the easiest way to play the dark project aka true thief 1 right now. that's if they don't fuck anything up with their shitty engine. hopefully there's a texture and model upgrade patch to get rid of the awful AI upscaling and the new voicelines.
>>740537792
>>740536028This is the fastest I've gone from being excited (seeing the thread) to being repulsed (seeing this post) in my life.
>>740540914the Nightdive guy mentioned it on the PC gaming show stream
>>740541049The texture work looks atrocious
>>740537075
>>740541181
>>740541258what's with the virtue signaling, who has ever given a shit about muh assassination handwringing on this site
>>740541258
>>740538445They added 3D audio support for Quake 1 and 2's remasters, it could happen again
>>740541181>>740541258>>740541349/v/ really has just become a twitter reposting boards, huh?
>>740541349
>>740535345More generic steal slop?
>>740536531kek no, kys demaketranny
>>740541469
>>740541547Interesting, however I still don't care about your twitter dramaslop
>>740535345What's the point? At its best it just looks the same. And for Thief with graffix we already have TDM.
>>740541129His exact words were that the audio and voicelines would be remastered because sound was highly important for Thief, that just means they're gonna clean up the files not that they're doing new recordings. It's the same shit they've done for all the other remasters.
>>740541547
>>740535345someone explain what is the point of buying this when I can just install newdark and angel loader?
I wonder what the new paintings will look like. Maybe just AI-upscaled?
>>740541689
>>740540914> the one in the trailer was the original.it absolutely fucking was not
ok what's with the spam wtf happened?
>>740541707None since Looking Glass is dead
>>740541707There's a chance their engine allows for better physics or scripting or better performance in FMs with stuff like dynamic lighting. If it's just a graphics wrapper, then don't buy.
>>740541707Reaching a new audience for the series (it won't)
>>740541767
>>740535345yeah everything is fun until you get to the gay horror bullshit. I love every first half of the theif games
>>740541831Anyone who wants to play thief has already done so
>>740541504Okay. Tell me why. I'm very confident you didn't play System Shock 1.
>>740541810>If it's just a graphics wrapperthats exactly what its gonna be and you know it
>>740541847
>>740541789someone with TDS waltzed into the thread with an ol' chip on their shoulda
>>740540775I'm here to shit on it's terrible demaster.
>>740541883Hence the (it won't)It would be nice if it reinvigorated the FM scene, though.
>>740535345Remastered what? It looks like a lazy upscale hack job like the Deus Ex remaster.
>>740541942
>>740541685No these are his exact wordshttps://youtu.be/tRVxQ7VLmHI?t=5791
Can you fucking twittter tranny already fuck off?
>>740542024
>>740541885Apparently SS1 needed a new wokefag writer.
>>740535345FUCKStop remaking games. Fuck this cancer. They are going to ruin my beloved franchise. Not like this, Thiefbros.
>>740541996I think black parade already did that
>>740541930No, I don't know it. And neither do you.
>>740542187
>>740542187I don't recall woke moments in the remaster. So I ask again, what changed between the original to the remaster that you were not a fan of? What addition? This is an easy question to answer if you have played either one.
you want to know the best theif game? >skyrim nightingale
>>740542187>He/HimWe're fucked...
>>740535345I HATE Nightdive, I HATE Atari, I HATE Stephen Kick, I HATE Larry (((Kuperman))), I HATE the braindead retards who keep begging for shitty unnecessary remasters like this, and most importantly, I fucking HATE the Antichrist
>>740535345daily reminder that an anonymous user created the practically standard source port (new dark) with enhanced script engine allowing it to be played on practically all PCs and have more complicated fan missions for free. jewdark would never
>>740542247The biggest remaster of recent times, Oblivion, was literally just a graphic wrapper. If a game of that caliber didn't have any changes, let's not pretend Thief won't be just a cheap piece of shit cashgrab with sterile textures and unnecessary, inferior substitutes
>>740542438I still think it was a looking glass vet
every theif game starts out awesome, and then they get gay with paranormal bullshit. > you have to avoid 50 skin walkers
>>740542492Fuck off down in the bonehoard is fucking p e a k.
>>740542532I just want to steal stuff man
>>740542532Boner hoard is pretty much the only good one, there was nothing like it afterwards.
>>740542532Play sepulchre of the sinistral. Great bonehoard FM
didn't their system shock 2 remaster have missing EAX and the original got delistedgrim
>>740542681my computer can't even run eax since 2007
>that loot sound effect
>>740541885I've played the original game multiples time over the last decade. I couldn't stomach finish a single playthrough of demake I had pirated. They stretched out the horrible cyberspace missions, which we already terrible in the original game, and replaced the unique electronic soundtrack of the original with a generic, instantly forgettable horror soundtrack that could be found in any b-horror movie. The fantastic intro of the original was made 5x as long, and has less information than the original's, while removing any sense of style or excitement the original intro instilled. The game is also padded with picking up garbage off the floor so you can buy shitty items for shitty upgrades that don't matter. Oh yes, and let's not forget the eye raping visual style of the demake. Seriously, fuck any one who defends the demake, you retards have zero taste and have most certainly never played the REAL SS1.>>740542187Kek not shocking at all.
>>740542680that looks pretty sweet.
Why? The original runs just fine on modern systems.Make new games.
>>740538590I strongly disagree. It is somehow inherently unfair to compare the work of a small team of volunteer fans to that of a company like LGS with emplyees working on the game full time as well as being able to hire musicians and voice actors, but that's what you asked for.BP has levels that are much larger and more detailed than the original, thanks in great part to the lack of technical limitations on modern systems. However, in every other field it falls behind the original game IMO. To start with the obvious, the original game had better story, better music and voice acting, better cutscenes. These elements set the mood in thief and are very important. BP relies on the original or tries to imitate it, but it's much weaker and comes across as amateurish and unoriginal, as fan works inherently tend to be.In terms of levels, I feel like every location of the original game served to flesh out the world and was very memorable. The hammerite prison and church, the lost city, the manors of the nobles, the haunted cathedral. There was a strong adventure element to the game. I can't recall much of BP nearly as clearly. I remember a spooky house, a library, a castle, the city, but these locations aren't as varied and interesting, they aren't as revealing about the world of thief. They are just bigger and more intricate. After all, it would be hard for fans to introduce lots of new textures or mechanics.Also, it is an unfortunate truth of thief that being too good at it kind of spoils a lot of mechanics. Why use moss arrows when you can tap the forward button and be silent on any surface? Fan maps rarely have many fire torches as turning them off with water arrows makes the game a little too easy. But in being balanced towards very skilled and experienced players a lot of the fun gets optimized away. I do admit that the EMP granades were cool.And I do love BP, it's really cool and remarkable, but thief one and two are head and shoulders a better experience.
>>740535345After stuff like heretic + hexen new episodes, powerslave exhumed, system shock remake and blade runner ee they are probably my favourite developers but boring stealth shit doesnt interest me, how can this snorefest be in the same "genre" as system shock 2 and deus ex?
>>740542996>Make new games.They did just a couple months ago. and it was shit.
>>740543062Catfags are always retarded
>>740543295I know bloodfags have a huge problem with them and I don't blame you, just don't really care for blood :DD cultic is better btw
i feel like if you REALLY want to tangle with the thief franchise, you have to make something new for itbecause really, what's the point of this? the graphics upgrade is nothing special so it won't attract the normalfags, and all the people that want to play thief just played the originals. there really isn't much new here from what i can tell
>>740535345they will never capture the SOVL of the dark engine
Thief belongs in a goddamn MUSEUM
>>740543370There are so many good fan missions at this point, you could sink hundreds of hours into them if you wanted, something like Thief couldn't be made in current year anyway
>>740543397
Thiefags probaby hate to hear this but dishonoured was the perfect thief rebootNobody cares about this shit
Why the FUCK would anyone want to play Thief without the old graphics and audio? This shit is so bafflingly confusing to me. Why are you even playing old games if you don't want the real experience?
>>740543626old games are too liminal and yike me out frfr :(
>>740543397>the dark engine >it's literally dark bravo Kojima
>>740543626This but without texture filtering
You know why they'll never make the protagonist black in this series?
>>740535345It was only a matter of time before contamination and subsequent delisting.
>>740542681They used OpenAL instead
>>740543836Because he wouldn't need to hide in the shadows?
>>740543626>adore this late 90s PC aesthetic>if I make my game look like this /v/ will say it's PS1 clone slop so long, cruel world
>>740543836it's called thief, not mugger
>>740543583>Nobody cares about this shitJust like Arkane doesn't give a shit about Dishonored.
>>740543626
>>740535345Seems like they barely changed anything even the stiff knock out animation remains. On one hand I'm glad but on the other I'm thinking....why? This isn't bringing much to the table compared to what the fans have done with the original which still runs great.
>>740539128A remaster for Thief makes sense here since the original game doesn’t function on modern OS and requires mods. Even with mods, it’s really unstable. The game constantly crashes and functions don’t work at random.
>>740543836because she likes stealing and killing?
>>740535345>"oh boy, more remake shit"
>>740544187>caring about /v/'s opinionWhy? Too weak-willed to make your own?
>>740544315Thief runs great on modern systems. There is still a community making new maps.
>>740544271Arkane chose to die while making the best spiritual successor to system shock they could, which coincidentally is also a much better game than dishonored. Thief was always shit compared to other "immersive sims"
>>740539128Remasters are good for convenience.
they already remade theif. how much more can they fuck it up?
>>740535345WOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
>>740544473HEADSHOT BONUS!+100 EXP
>>740544431He knows, so don't bother. He gives the same answer to every remake, just changing the game's name.
>>740543626Because higher fidelity graphics makes a more immersive experience, specially for first person games.
>>740544464and? Doesn't make it any less dead.
>>740535821Same
>>740544431I don’t know what you have, but for me I have to download mods to get the game running properly.
>>740544187Just don't shit it up with CRT filters, artificial lowres, and intentional texture warping and no one will have a problem with it. Gloomwood would have been well received if it wasn't vaporware.
>>740544473>you know remember thi4f threadsdamn bro
>>740544464consider this: other immersive sims are all mostly gay as fuck and Thief is good precisely because it's less of an immersive sim
I'll try getting the comparisons
>>740544615He said even with mods it's unstable which is a lie.
I like how u keep misspelling theif. it's not worth being called thief
>>740544315>Even with mods, it’s really unstable. The game constantly crashes and functions don’t work at random.This has never happened to me. Maybe you double clicked the newdark install exe incorrectly lmao
>>740544626ugh don't remind me
I'd like if it had an option to play with the original graphics. A new, more stable version with the original graphics and voice lines is what I'd like.
>>740544626it's unfortunate you don't get to tie down your girlfriend who steals from you and rape her
Base game is stable and works fine, tf u doing?
>>740544626>>740544773https://voca.ro/1adoDJz4fhP1
>>740544626I remember the stream with /v/ on release. Comedy gold
>>740544643
>>740536028The models look and move like the originals but with somewhat higher polys. I guess you can say it looks bad in the big 26 but it's authentic
>>740539267I don't see how the modern audience would be into classic stealth without relying on linear levels, radar map, quest markers, yellow paint and 'press X to awesome'. It would be a miracle if this managed to attract new blood and inspire new games without corrupting the genre
>>740544643>people are going to pay $20 for AI texturesIt should be legal to kill to stupid people
>>740535567I wonder if they'll charge for that.>>740535345Absolutely retarded
>>740544643yuck seems like it's going to have lazy dynamic lighting everywhere which will really change the look.
>>740544934
>>740544881lmao
>>740544643>>740545159Soul vs soulless
>>740544881fuck you I'll stab you in the neck
>>740544881this part was probably my favorite part of the entire thief series
>>740544643>left is darker while right added more light sourcesI'm fine with the upgraded character models but its the environments I'm most worried about since the original used pre baked lighting which made every room and location have a deliberate look and style
>>740544315>original game doesn’t function on modern OSAre you going to use this move when the original Thief 1/2s are delisted, like you did with System Shock 2, or do you have other material prepared?
>>740544881>>740545216>>740545346>total chaos in the "theifdom"
>>740544881I know he is parodying bafford's manor but this sounds exactly like the homestar runner crew
>>740545383The delisting is the worst part
>>740539267It's way too slow for the modern audience. They need a minimap and dishonored teleport kills.
>As if you can't have smth like dgvoodoo to just play old games
>>740544315NewDark (the community mod engine you use to play Thief on modern OS) is not unstable
I love rhe old games, but I don't trust a new game
>>740544934left almost looks like an impressionist painting, no extraneous details, easy to read, low res textures fit the low poly georight looks like a 2008 mobile game, can't decide whether it wants to be low, mid or high poly. textures clash hard with the low level of geometry. could they not even add some actual level geometry for the beams in the windows? if they're going to go for this Frankenstein HD low poly look they have to accommodate more than just the enemy models and a prop here or there>>740545159more of the same. the big offender here is the original walls having more of a purple hue, and the trim above it has more of an orange flair (complimentary color) with some red pops to break it up, whereas the new one is more of a dull grey and has grey spots on the orange trim, lifeless I hate remasters and remakes with all of my being. these are the exact same pricks who would say games are art, mind you. the very same that take it upon themselves to deface classics
Torn between wanting to support official thievery, and thinking the new graphic suck. Thief graphics are like pic related or a Picasso part of the style and surrealism now.
I have no hope, but I'd enjoy a new thief game if it wasn't retarded and lame
When you could walk into a store and find a god tier game just sitting there.
>>740545702what fm
>>740545837Instead now u just get stabbed and there's no store.
>>740545159
>>740537307Exactly this. I have no idea why people eat this shit up. I think it's only console users looking for a port.
>>740545702FM?
Looking Glass website before Thief was revealed.
>>740545861>>740546013no idea it was just in my soul folder.
>>740545861>>740546013The Chalice of Soulspicrel Into The odd
>>740545931I already sperged out on the last post but this shit is painful why does the zombie on the right have a rim light / backlight? where's that light even coming from? it's not strong enough to be the light to the right since it's barely lighting up its surrounding area I'm gonna sound like an REfag but the original zombie looks effectively creepy because of its low poly nature and low res texture, it's almost like an uncanny valley effect. you can barely make out the features of its face, so you fill in the gaps yourself. I think there's a term for it, how our brains are set to high alert to find patterns and faces in the dark on the right you can more easily see what it is, its form and texture, and you can see its big fucking goofy ear, so that effective horror is lost
Okay, which mission will filter the modern audience the most? I'll go with Haunted Cathedral or Undercover
>>740546318>>740546460nice thanks
woe is me to have to witness cult classic ips get raped and gaped by modern media moguls looking for an easy buck.nothing is sacred and all becomes eroded.
>>740546532Thieves' Guild has been filtering people for decades.
>>740545931The new zombie looks like it came out of Timesplitters
>>740535345Hopefully it has steam workshop support and an in game fan map menu for one click easy campaigns. Might boost the scene for a bit.
>>740546532I honestly doubt anyone new will play thief. Anyone who wants to play it has already done so. Anyone too retarded to install newdark isn't getting through thief
Any good FMs with Trickster's minions as enemies?
>>740542318this
>>740546716exactly what came to mind for me too. based TimeSplitters enjoyer
>>740546821There's always new people. There's a certain type of person that won't touch anything without a remaster/remake and Thief is such a legendary game it will draw them.
https://youtu.be/GySn6_aclAM?t=41
>>740546873I remember Black Parade using that Ogre in the wizard castle mission, probably my favorite
I hope this doesn't split the fanbase and FMs... I don't wanna buy this gay cash grab.
>>740546948I can already imagine the reviews from outlets bringing up "outdated game design"
Looks too clean and bright, but if there's workshop support and I can just mod it back and have it autoinstall it's worth it for the convenience.
>>740546512>>740547262wut missions
>>740547130Oh yeah very cool. My favourite gimmick was the statues coming alive in the keeper compound. Freaked me out.
>>740545931
pretty ballsy of them to attempt this
>>740547427https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fayDMnIXylA>A child of flesh is loathsome and ill-tempered. But for what they lack, Karras has forged a child of metal that is constant, and true. I am that child.
>>740547297I am pretty sure both are from Arcane Sanctum in The Black Parade
Why doesn't he just get a job?
This one from the Sword doesn't seem to have the level specific guards skins yet
>>740547878He lives in a society
>>740547668Very nice
>>740548064>adding anti-soul gas and faggot little twinkles I'm mad
>>740547878He has a job, it's thieving and saving the world
>enter thief thread>90% of posts are twitter screencaps/v/ is so fucking dogshit its unbelievable how mods have let it get this bad
>>740544464>>740543583Dishonored is casual console shit and vastly overrated.
They're gonna de-list the original aren't they
>>740548651they'll probably delist it and sell a combined package with the original that's what they did with system shock 2
>>740545931Breaking up the tiled ground and wall textures and making them look a little more like what they should (like an early-mid 2000s game) is actually a good thing. Armchair expert shitposters who haven't stared at the vanilla textures of hundreds of hours in FMs need not reply.
>>740543583We hate to hear it because Dishonored is garbage and nothing like Thief, kys.
>>740548651Bro ur CD?
>>740536028All Nightdive does is slap AI textures on these old games and call it good. Absolutely dogshit scam "developer".
>>740536028>re-recorded the voice linesholy fucking SOULLESS
>>740547297i thought>>740546512was from mystic souls heart of bohn, but other anon is probably correct. if you want something similar to that screenshot check it out though
The feature list from GOG: >The pioneering 3D stealth game, remastered using Nightdive’s proprietary KEX Engine. Thief: The Dark Project Remastered includes all content from Thief: The Dark Project (12 huge missions with multiple environments) and the Thief: Gold update (3 new missions, which deepen the plot and add five new types of enemies).>Up to 4K 120FPS visuals.>Modern gamepad support adds a new weapon wheel, rumble, and motion/gyro controls.>Achievements>A Vault filled with a treasure trove of behind-the-scenes. >Graphic enhancements to textures, models, animations and more. Small fixes to the original level design.>Quality of life improvements include a weapon and item wheel to quickly select tools and gadgets.>Replay any mission you have previously completed with a mission selector.>Built-in support for custom campaigns, enabling access to thousands of hours of additional content.
>>740548915>Small fixes to the original level design.Ah shit, here we go again.
>>740548915>Quality of life improvements include a weapon and item wheel to quickly select tools and gadgets.why are zoomers allergic to pressing 1-9 on the keyboard?
>>740548752My uncle has them because I played his copies but I have the game files anyway
>>740548998It's most likely going to be shit with making new mantle work on certain surfaces without making it a total crapshoot.
>>740549056It's for consolefags.
>>740549056weapon wheels are objectively better when combined with keyboard 1-9 tho
>>740549056The wheel is for consoles
>>740535345Ngl, the only reason I haven't touched classic thief series is because of how outdated it is... Now they are giving it a remaster, Im quite existed to play it fully.
>>740549284gr8 b8 m8
>>740549056>not rebinding your most used shit around WASD like you're playing quake with bowsPeople these days generally seem to forget that button remapping is a feature that sometimes exists and then complain about default controls as if they're hardcoded. Dumb as fuck.
>>740535345It's going to be sh->>740536028Yup
>>740549056>>740549343for me it's mouse4 for square lockpick and mouse5 for compass
>>740549563Mouse 4 is square lockpick, then I'm one scroll away from triangle. My mouse has a little joystick that does digital inputs mapped to arrow keys, so up is compass, down is blackjack, and left and right are weapon swaps.
>>740549563shift + q for one lockpick, shift + e for the otherget on my level
>>740543583Dishonored is the perfect Deus Ex reboot that claims it has Thief ancestry, a real Thief reboot wouldn't give the protagonist god-powers that make every stealth encounter trivial to deal with.
>>740549056In any rpg discussion of old ass pc rpgs, you'll find cucks begging for "controller support" and talking about how unplayable the game is. For them, keyboard playing is outdated, janky and "not gamey".
>>740535345I wonder if they'll update the shitty inventory management; only complaint of the original two
It feels bizarre seeing the atari logo over thief
>>740535345>>740536028You really don't hate Nightdive enough
i recently tried these properly since like 25 years ago and theyre fun at first, sneaking around big buildings, finding shortcuts, etcbut then it starts having monsters and shit and just gets boring. the third game has a good first level then a few hours later im lost in a sewer with monsters and dropped it
>>740549919Play Thief 2
>>740548064Thank you for these screenshot comparisons. I got a sudden urge to replay Thief.
>>740549859as a Bloodfag, this and the Nightdive logo gives me conniptions. welcome to hell
HD textures already exist, that hardcore fans traveled around the world to source the original references used in the game, took photographs, and remade them by hand.I don't know what the fuck this "remaster" is attempting to accomplish.>>740536361You console command to it.
>>740550048>You console command to it.Makes sense. Thank you.
>>740536028This ain't it
You know what this piece of shit demake could actually contribute in a very good way if they were to do it?A proper fucking level editor
>>740550048It's a key combo not a console command.It's like alt+shift+end or something to skip to next mission.
How much?
>>740547297>>740547262 is Winds of Misfortune(I think.) Great level and has a sequel called Reflections in Red.
>>740550308Probably close to the system shock 2 remaster price of $30 US
>>740543583Dishonored is closer to Batman arkham slop than Thief.
>>740550169I'm amazed that no one has forked trenchbroom for thief, it'd be perfect
>>740550169DromEd is awesome though
>>740550662It was probably okay for its time but going beyond the geometry of the 90s looks much worse than even this
>>740550169They're adding some modeling tools that allow people to make models in blender.
>Shartrannies who never played Thief or similar demonizes another game thread with buzzwordsDid the fucking code veronica remake threads got boring for these inbred indians too?
>>740546460Enjoyed this one but it had a bit too much trial and error difficulty at the start
>>740547262Winds of Misfortune, peak Dark Project fm
>>740550385Kek now where is this from
>>740548915>>740536028>Kex engineI have little interest in playing reworks of the original levels (I play lots of fan missions but rarely revisit the originals), but an engine port could be promising. Maybe it'll be easier for modders to add new enemies and such. The Thief community has done an amazing job with the tools they have available but they have to work black magic to get new features in the engine, and you can tell that a lot of new enemies are basically reskins.
>>740547262>>740551226Oh shit, last fm I played was the whole Black Parade campaign, there are gems released after it?
>>740551286>30_yr_old_tafferyou should update that to 40_yr_old_taffer.jpg, anon.
>>740548743>nothing like Thief,True, Dishonored is actually a good game instead of poorly aged dogshit propped up by nostalgic boomers lol
>>740551418(You)
>>740551329>Reflection in RedA nice castle heist with a twist>A Very Thiefy Christmas SpecialUltra-comfy Christmas-themed mission, from the same creator than Scarlet Cascabel
>>740536028Absolute goyslop
>>740551329Yes there's plenty good FM's that are on par with Black Parade qualityWinds of MisfortuneReflections in RedSound of a Burrick in a RoomRose GardenEndless RainAlcazarA Thief's TrainingInto the Oddpic related if you need more its my personal list so opinions can change
The Dark Mod has some nice FMs too.I really enjoyed Iris, Displacement, and Seeking Lady Leicester in particular.
>>740536028nnngh... very bad. cartoony, almost—no 2000s grunge
>>740551563>>740551753Aye, will check these out, thief fan missions are some of the greatest gaming experiences i had in the recent years
>>740551753> Rose GardenI see you are a gentleman as well as a scholar.
>>740535345why do you negroes care? if the remake is shit, the old version is still available on GOG, even if they delisted, the pirate version is easy to get
>>740540150Jesus Christ you don't have Night Dive enough
>>740551881Recently finished this one and loved all the different paths you could find. Very challenging FM if you're going for no knockouts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPiMwB6RUhY>i'm not crying, you're crying
>>740552117Disorientation is one of my favorite Thief fm ever, so let’s say I was completely floored by Melan’s work on this sequel. It’s not for everyone (beginners will absolutely hate it), but it’s incredible.
>>740540143>>740540441Yeah maybe it's out of the box compatible with old pre-NewDark missions, so stuff made before like 2013ish. But the claim of "thousands of hours of fan missions" is not true either since most missions aren't made for Thief1/Gold, but Thief 2.
>>740552490It's only compatible in the sense that it's gonna work with barebone fan missions that only use stock textures and nothing else, everything more complex than that will either break or will look odd because of custom textures and scripts. This "remaster" specifically is very bad because Thief has gotten a lot of content and patches over the years that will be simply undone for the sake of greed
>>740544315The Steam version is fucking ass, play the GoG one.
I wish I could say it's a good thing more people will get to know Thief, but in reality they'll get to experience an inferior, sanitized version of it with GTA SA remaster level models like >>740540150Maybe the cutscenes will look good *inhales copium*
>>740552714> everything more complex than that will either break or will look odd because of custom textures and scripts.Scripts are modular, either you load the corresponding dll or not.I agree with you for the textures, tho. I hope the remaster will get the original ones as an option.But my biggest hope if for an updated version of Dromed. I think jettisoning off the CSG model is possible without breaking existing missions (level geometry is compiled into a bsp tree).
>>740551329>there are gems released after it?>>740551563What he said plus I really liked the snow mission by the German modder girl.
>>740552714>that only use stock textures and nothing elseSo all the good ones?
Dont we already have mods that do exactly that?
>>740553316I’m sure you can post better bait than that.
>>740553316Specifically with thief gold (thief 2 is much different in that regard), all of the best fan missions were heavy on the stock stuff, correct. The point is however that custom textures were also used here and there, or modifications of the default ones, those will be the ones breaking the compatibility. Only very amateur missions were 100% vanilla content
>>740552891old textures had cranked up blacks and contrast since they were made for low res and old screens.just open the new textures and do the same til It reaches a sweet spot.
>>740553449What bait? Every decent FM you look at will explicitly say to not use modded textures or HD assets.
FUCK YES I GET TO PAY A PREMIUM FOR A GAME THAT CAME OUT 50 YEARS AGOHELL YEAH GIVE ME SHITTY TEXTURES FUCK YES I LOVE ITAHH GOD PLEASE JUST MAKE SURE YOU DON'T ADD NEW CONTENT THAT WOULD RUIN IT PLEEEEEASE
>>740553818Shartrannies arent sending xher best.
>>740552283>Emil Pagliaruno is in the corner working on level designAnd that's exactly where he should have stayed.
>>740553528Heck, even Thief2X had a lot of custom assets, and the campaign is 20 years old at this point.Custom assets was how fms creators improved the look of their fms in the 2000s so that they looked more modern - I mean, look at COSAS, it’s incredible for its time. After NewDark, focus switched to the number of polygons, but people still use custom assets.Only time when people only use stock asset would be speedjams I think.
>>740535345I didn't like this game. I appreciate the passion fans have for it but with Styx, Tenchu and Splinter Cell, etc. I can't get into it.
>>740553914But the faggots shilling it are out in full force
>>740547806>Art thou not a thief? Then... steal thyself away, pest! hehehuhuhuhuh
>>740554084You have shit taste
>>740554084I love all of them.
>>740554178A lot of people in this thread as I've been reading have shit taste in my opinion so I probably think Thief fans have shit taste
>>740554272back to baby console shit nigger
>>740554327Consoles are dead and so is Thief
>>740554072Thief 2 had a lot of amazing fan missions that completely moved away from the pre-established conventions and were their own genres at times, pic rel is being a detective in a noir setting>heckKill yourself
>>740554072> Only time when people only use stock asset would be speedjams I think.The first thing I did when I started my first fm in Dromed was to steal those Sckacky’s big chains between every buildings in Endless Rain.
>>740544315go fuck yourself moron
>>740551286literally me
I really need to replay thief (2) and finally get into fan missions
>>740554272Spoke like a true /qa/trannywill you flood this and the code veronica thread with wojaks too? or the pisscord imageboard didnt ordered yet?
>>740555404If/when you do, hold off on Black Parade. Its too good and mogs everything Thief.
>>740555541SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR
>>740554165kekkarras patented the "seethe at your adversary over comms" move before breen
>>740535345>those obvious AI upscaled texturesis there anyone actually likes the way that shit looks?akin to using filters on an emulator
>>740555743Or use the jeet meme, because you fags doesnt play videogames.
>>740555968Johnny Normalbody might like it when he scans his ps5 e-shop for something cheap and interesting after slaving away at a 9-5
>>740551264No idea I got it from here.
>>740538505>How can a +20year old game look better than a modern remaster.EasyIt's a fucking remasterThe original game is what cost real money and vision to make
>>740556297Kek
>>740535345I was hoping we would get something more like a remake. Hopefully this is now playable with controller and cutscenes are now fixed
>>740541547>(((Feinstein)))
>>740536361You could literally ediy thr notepad to load the level you wanted.
>>740540828Soul. Shit like this is the only thing that would even make me use a texture pack.
>>740544616There's nothing wrong with CRT shadersThese old games had low res textures and they look shit at high resolutions
>>740544097Can someone explain this stuff to me? This is some technology that was specific to the sound cards of the time?
>>740544575>Because higher fidelity graphics makes a more immersive experience, specially for first person games.No they don't, you imbecile
>>740535345All night dive do is port games to consoles. They're the crappiest company to ever exist defended by a youtube mafia of civvie 11 and gmanlives and a bunch of other shills.Seriously what games have they made "better"? because even SS1 is debatable.
>>740557129Maybe anon was referring to CRT shaders at the developer levelYou just can't catch up with Retroarch autism
great news>>740539223always the same complaints same with ss2, the improvements are mostly under the hood, they'll touch up some animations and models use some higher quality assets fix some bugs and port it to consolesif you want to just play it with newdark you can do that
>>740557129>There's nothing wrong with CRT shadersThere's plenty wrong with them. They don't look anything like actual CRT monitors, at best they look like the photo of a monitor.Human eyes/brain and CRT work in tandem to process the picture.
>>740535345watch them de-list the originalfucking greedy cunting fucks.they did the same with system shock 2FUCK 'EMFUCK 'EMFUCK 'EMfuck nightdive foreverfuck nightdivethe CUNTSFUCK NIGHTDIVEFUCK NIGHTDIVEFUCK NIGHTDIVE
>>736174279>Still, there is no reason to buy itI won
>>740558039yeah I blame atari for that and eidos still owns thief I guess so we'll so what happens you have had 20 years+ to buy the games for a dollar though
>>740556214I always got the feeling a scene like this would have been a great introduction to a new campaign, or at least not something we get before the very end. Writing was the weakest part so it makes sense the pacing would suffer for it
>>740548835don't forget to mention that they ask at least double the price while delisting the original games. Despicable behavior.
>>740540336Garrett was such a cool protagonist. What happened to COOL protagonists?
>>740558039Amen to that. And fuck all of the shills that defend them too. The ones who are obviously sent out by some official discord group to give them good PR online
did karras do anything wrong?
>>740538505The original was devs doing their best to make a game that looks as good as they could with the limited hardware power available.Remasters are cash grabs where devs do their best to squeeze money out of old games with as little effort as they can get away with.
If it doesn't have EAX emulation it's auto shit
>>740535345I have remaster/rework fatigue
>>740558824>If it doesn't have EAX emulation it's auto shitIt won't even have the option for A3D because that's how little they care about anything. Nightdive are the biggest poser "retro" games company to ever exist.
>>740558039Nightdive are the developers. It's up to the publisher to decide what to delist and what to keep.But go ahead and continue being retarded for the rest of your life.
>>740559108They know by now whenever they work on something it delists the other. It's their responsibility as much as it is the publisher. Stop being a shill.
>>740549056>why are zoomers allergic to pressing 1-9 on the keyboard?They can't even use computers correctly.
Hard pass if this continues the trend of not including toggles to the original graphics/audio/assets, was already burned by System Shock 2. I don't understand why they'd suddenly stop.
>>740559108THEY FUCKING KNOW.we gave them the benefit of the doubt the first time around. get ur head screwed on fella for fucks sake
>>740536028>NightdiveHammer, anvil, forge and fire chase away the hoofed liar. Roof and doorway, block and beam, chase Nightdive away from fucking Steam.
>>740536028>https://store.steampowered.com/app/4200960/Thief_The_Dark_Project_Remastered/I'm going to throw up, it looks like they slapped some Unity texture pack on the game.Inb4 it's pre-alpha broIF THAT DOES NOT REPRESENT HOW THE GAME WILL LOOK DON'T FUCKING SHOW IT.
>>740560992pre alpha nowadays means it's almost completed
>>740560992>IF THAT DOES NOT REPRESENT HOW THE GAME WILL LOOK DON'T FUCKING SHOW IT.They'll say it isn't final until they ship it and surprise suprise, nothing will be different. It's how modern devs avoid any sort of criticism and accountability for their awful work. Those textures are legitimately the worst i've ever seen for Thief, they've literally made it look like a cartoon, the absolute worst made fan texture packs from 20 years ago were better than that and they're absolute shit.
>>740551753>pic related if you need more its my personal list so opinions can changeCheers for that.
>>740560992hmm, that lamp surely has to be the most powerful light source in the thief universe with how much pure bright is trapped within
>>740561596>were better than that and they're absolute shit.Shit because they're all mismatches and thus useless for FMs, not to mention made the game look too dark in specific levels.But yeah slightly more effort went into them by being original textures opposed to what was practically just no effort on this one.
>>740536028>Nightdive>couldn't even get basic shit like the fucking jump height right in basically every "remaster" they've shat out.Can't wait to see how fucked Thief is and what in the absolute fuck are those textures, models and art direction in general. Who the fuck thought making Thief bright and colourful was a good idea?Nightdive are such fucking cancer.
>>740535345>Nightdive
in other news5 years later and this shit keeps getting updated?https://store.steampowered.com/app/1355650/Filcher/
>>740536028This is vile.
>>740562135The pure white highlights with bloom are grim
>>740562130I'm hoping at least one of these thief likes will ever release one dayhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/2642850/Serpens_Eternal_Thievery/https://store.steampowered.com/app/3674590/Noirmancer/https://store.steampowered.com/app/3970690/Project_Shadowglass/https://x.com/CitadelPrxjecthttps://www.youtube.com/@huelesceThese games could only be loosely associated with Thief conceptshttps://store.steampowered.com/app/3503810/TERRORtypeALCHEMY/https://store.steampowered.com/app/3994820/DreadBound/https://store.steampowered.com/app/3999040/Devoid/https://store.steampowered.com/app/3248910/Deserter/
>>740546716>looks like it came out of TimesplittersThis describes the fuck awful art direction perfectly.I love Timesplitters mind you, but Timesplitters is not fucking Thief.
>>740539128>I don't understand remasters, the existing games and fan missions work great stillThey can sell it for $20 instead of $2 and delist the original game from Steam, etc.
>>740535821Anatoly, there's only so much corporate calisthenics I can go through before I get queasy, so let's get down to brass tacks.
>>740536028>https://store.steampowered.com/app/4200960/Thief_The_Dark_Project_Remastered/>Built-in support for custom campaigns, enabling access to thousands of hours of additional content.Does Nightdive not understand how a lot of FM's are textured, or do they simply not care?
>>740551753>Hating on my waifu Gaëtane's missions... You did not!
>>740536028Their lead artist (if you want to call them that) should fucking kill themselves.
>>740535821its why nick is my go to companion
>>740535345Time to post this classic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZfEOncjZwA
I'm so sorry everyoneAll I wanted was a new Thief game..
>>740562130Thanks for beta testing, nerds.
>>740563239These threads were fucking unreal. I wish I had saved the Isaac Clarke vocaroo
I get sad every time I think of the Thief fandom because it makes me remember all those now dead forums and communities. Same with the old community of scifi/fantasy conventions and filkers before scifi and fantasy went mainstream and corporatized.Like that German Thief player Lytha who used to be active in the Thief community and did let's plays on youtube, got tongue cancer and her last videonwas about recovering from it.>http://www.lytha.com/>https://www.youtube.com/user/LythaJulianiaAnyone have those infographics on how to get Thief and VtMB running and what recommended patches to use?
>>740539128Nightdive's stuff is good for their console releases, modern controller support and maybe some of the games using more arcane engines. I don't really get why anyone on PC would buy the boomer shooters that already have fan patches/mods/source ports though.
Played some of thief 1 and I genuinely prefer 3 .
>>740544187PS1 games never looked that detailed or crisp.
>>740564480They did on ePSXe.
>>740563398Stealth doesn't sell. It's dead for Splinter Cell fans too so you should know better.
>>740562562>https://store.steampowered.com/app/3248910/Deserter/Really looking forward to Deserter. Gone Rogue was fantastic and is among the all time stealth greats as far as i'm concerned. It took the magic of playing the Thief in Commandos 2 and turned it into a full fledged game and did it fantastically.Hopefully those other Thief-likes turn out well, Serpens looks especially good. Honestly happy to keep playing Thief 1/2/Dark Mod FM's for the rest of my life though as the industry is clearly in a death spiral when it takes Nightdive longer to shit out a shit remaster of a game than it took the original devs to make it.
>>740536821is "thief gold (1999)" what you're referring to?
>>740536028What in the absolute fuck is that. I'm convinced Nightdive get off on enshitifying classic games.
>>740536028>Nightdive presents, UItima Underworld!
>>740566209ye nah it would be like system shock enhanced and I'd take that
>>740565451I'm both an Thief fan and Splinter Cell fan so i would be remiss not to tell you about a potentially cool indie SC in early development. Except it's co-op so if that sours it for you then i suppose it's not going to be that exciting. I just think it sounds conceptually cool to get a game that is going to be heavily moddable and have a level editor. Might get it's own form of modern FMs. The page was created last year:https://store.steampowered.com/app/4127010/Echo_Contingency/https://www.echocontingency.com/There's a few others but some might have be trapped in dev hell for all i knowhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/3285390/SeverLink/https://store.steampowered.com/app/2990890/Darkspy/https://store.steampowered.com/app/4435590/Lizard_State/
>>740566209>They get rid of conversation trees.
>>740566393That certainly looks as if it has serious potential and I like the emphasis on modding. I keep hoping someone does something similar to that but with a Tenchu Z style game. Full mod support, co-op, lots of levels/missions/layouts/characters/abilities etc Just good solid meat and potatoes stealth with practically infinite replayability.>Except it's co-op so if that sours it for youNot in the least, I still regularly play through Chaos Theory/Double Agent co-op as well as some Hidden & Dangerous 2 with my best mate, not to mention an absolute silly amount of sneakan in Payday 2.
>>740536028I don't see what everyone is upset about.Nightdive did a fantastic job of the GTA remasters, i'm sure they'll nail this as well.
>>740535345>>740536028Absolute fucking slop. Just zero fucking effort or care for the game whatsoever. Literal hacks just taking to other peoples work with a hatchet.
>>740535345What the fuck are those textures.
Will they add a proper sneaking button?I hate that its literally impossible to move without the guards hearing you
>>740568756this, and will we get thief vision? so sick of turning corners into guards i could've easily seen if they just highlighted them through walls
>>740568756There are two sneaking buttons? One is for walking (less sound) and another for sneaking, they both stack, albeit you go at a snails pace.
>>740569462Yeah, neither of those make you silent
>>740544934i think any comparison should turn off texture filtering in the original
>>740541049>easiest way to play the dark project aka true thief 1 right nowNigger just spend two minutes on PcGamingWiki and you can have Thief up and running right now.Look I'll even save you the trouble.>Download GOG>download thishttps://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=141148>done.>but I want fanmissions>use this in addition to the abovehttps://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=149706>done.You'd better play The Black Parade, Taffer.
>>740570251...are you walking on metal surfaces?
>>740570479>troonfixroguepatcher is better
>>740570723fine use that if you're so inclined.Point is you don't need to pay Nightdive probably 20 dollars on a decades old perfectly playable game just to have some shitty HD texture pack enabled by default.
>>740536028They couldn't keep the red crosses on the health bar shields of a 28 year old game? Do they really think the Red Cross is going to go after them for a remaster?
>>740536028>old good>new badyou can keep your uncslopthe next generation is here
I'm not impressed by the textures or new models. As long as they do everything right it seems inoffensive, but the original game works almost perfectly already, so its hard to justify its existence. I guess it will get more normies who don't want to mess with game files playing.
