>Discussion completely dead less than two days after the revealHas any other developer ever fumbled their golden goose as badly as Capcom has with Monster Hunter?
Wilds is legit the first MH game I give 0 fucks about.
>>740540068I wish they'd just give me Dos Remake instead.
>>740540068After Wo Long 2 being revealed and a few others coming out next year I am hard pressed to care especially since it will launch with very little content and it'll be 12 months until they give cut content back.
Capcom pulled a Disney Star Wars, Wilds was so bad it salted the earth for the IP.
its not coming this year pointless to talk anything
Using level of discussion on /v/ as a measure of something’s success is fucking batshit. Ironically it would mean Concord is an outstanding hit.
>>740541541>RemakeJust port the old games to modern platforms
Lmao crazy cope
>>740541714as if, the next switch one could spontaneously spring to life and skullfuck the emperor to death live on national television and japs would still be taking weeks off work to play it day 1
I don't think Gammoth can get all the way up there...
I'm so glad Tokuda got his just deserts I hope he gets sent to the japanese corporate room of shame and commits harakiri there
Fat chance hes hot at work getting MH7 for a 2038 release and its going to be the biggest scope MH ever with lots of story.
>>740540068When most of the discussion is just /mhg/ bleedover, you know the game is fucking dead.
>>740541894Incredibly disingenuous. Monster Hunter is in the top 20 most popular video game franchises of all time and /v/ has blown up practically every other time a new game or expansion has been announced. The completely apathetic response to this one is absolutely damning and would've been unthinkable just a couple of years ago.
>>740542656In the DLC the pair of Valstrax and Gammoth will be replacing Seltas Queen and Seltas
>wow, kushala daora is back, how exciting>I sure am glad they brought back the first and worst big siege fight directly after one of its strictly better descendantsStatements dreamed up by the utterly deranged
>>740540068>Has any other developer ever fumbled their golden goose as badly as Capcom has with Monster Hunter?i could say squarenix with FFit's honestly hard to fumble that hard
>>740543203Wilds is just trying really hard to go down as the worst Monster Hunter ever.
>>740540068Its their own fault wilds sucked.Fights had no bite.The walking tour of every single map. The whiny little jeet bastard. The unfinished end game.Wilds is trash. Ive played through world like 4 times I wont ever start wilds fresh the characters are too annoying.
>>740542432nah, the original dos is actually very boring to play without some hard qol stuff that are standard in the subsequent 2nd and 3rd gen games
>>740540068Sonic 06. Took a decade and a half to recover.
>>740540068>Monster Hunter>golden goosethat misconception was what got them in this mess to begin with
I’m really curious how boost gauntlet will effect fast weapons like SnS and DB, the GL and GS movesets seemed to be similar but sped up
>>740543531Bold of you to assume they would port anything but the old G rank games like Freedom/FU/3U/4U/GU
>>740541659Base wilds still doesnt even have an ending>beat xeno jiiva>huge party celebrating the end. Credits roll. Everyone chooses to stay to keep exploring.>kill zoh Shia>itll come back keep hunting, fuck face>plopped back onto the map with no changes or fanfare.
>>740540068I really tried to like wilds but it just didn't scratch my itch for exploration I really liked the slower pace in world
>>740540068>le floating rocksMonhun is just AAA slop now, isnt it?
>>740543094Didn't happen for Sunbreak
>was sure based Suzuki would be developing thisIs he working on Rise 2 G already? Sunbreak was goated, he better not be gone
The fuck did they expect to happen? At the absolute fastest we will get this is in six months, since they didnt say a month or quarter then it is safe to assume we wont see it till summer or fall or god forbid next winter. They were fucked no matter what they showed.
>>740542926It was like that for years though.
>>740540068/v/ is 90% astroturfing shills. Capcom stop paying their MH shills.
>>740541714Yeah whatever comes next is no longer an instant buy for me and I really loved 4,world and I even sort of liked rise.Wilds was just so mediocre.
>>740544063And yet they chose to show Kushala and Lao
>>740542432I think we are due a new Generations side game with modern engine and graphics
>>740542854>with lots of storyPlease, god, no.
>>740544237>a retarded ass windbag>a fan favorite, all be it notoriously slow fightthe genius of capcom never fails
I can't think of anything they could reveal that would get me interested or excitedAnd that's ignoring the fact that the most probable roster additions are EDs that have already been in World and/or Rise>Wowee it's Kushala and Teostra AGAIN>I wonder what permutation of Kirin, Chameleos, Shagaru, and Velkhana will be joining themGet fucking real
>>740543851Yes I am aware they half assed the End and released Hr Zoh Shia 3 months later with gear. Looks like MildsAss will be timeskipping the story post that event.
>>740544237>>740544549>westerners continuing to show how disconnected they are from the japanese.Did you know, kirin and khezu are beloved and very popular in japan and always have been?
When is itchy nose going to bless us with Portable 6?
The retards celebrating that this faggot is back never fought himArguably the worst "fight" in the whole franchise
>>740544740That's great and all but they still wouldn't be interesting reveals nor make for good fights no matter how popular they are in Japan
>release the exact same game for 20 years>why is nobody excitedoh I don't know maybe because I already played the exact shit they want to collect 80 bucks for again
>>740544740Nigga Zorah is considered one of the most popular monsters. Go look at the full poll and see how high that bullshit is and the 150 monsters ranked under him.
>>740543760>5 out of the top 10, 3 of the top 5, and both of the top 2 best selling Capcom titles ever are Monster Hunter games released within the last ten yearsThere's absolutely no misconception here. Even Wilds itself sold ridiculously well on branding alone until people realized how bad it was.
>>740544740>japan
>>740544835that's still zorahat least i can fail lao
>>740544940so fucking glad i dl'd the mod to turn that shit off, was so annoying
>>740544740I live in the west and khezu is one of my favourites.
>>740544893cope
>>740544940Kek
>>740544897>one of the most popular>didnt even make top 100No one likes the zorah magdaros fight they like the monster.
>>740544940Every day doing tempered Lagiacrus, the quest would have all faints left but as soon as he starts dashing in electric mode, everyone dies
>>74054141There is a Dos Remake, it's called Monster Hunter Freedom 2.
>>740544835https://youtu.be/ymHyOmlUlP0Why is this lao and fatalis?
>>740544835yeah man im sure they'll put in lao exactly how he was in FU with no attempt at improving the hunt at all
I hated Wilds so much that I just don't care.
>>740545205Guess that's the latest poll. His ass should be at the bottom 10 not over 52 others.
>>740545308>attempt at improving the huntworst case scenario for this fight in mild
>>740545308hes in the exact same mixty canyon you fucking dumbass, you tell me what they would rather do, copy/paste a local or make one from scratch?
Porting GU to modern platforms is the only way spark the flame for the playerbase again
The biggest curveball is if they only have 3 Elders return and all the rest are new elders
>>740545394and fatalis was in castle schraude in IB, the fight wasn't 100% the same
Gog wasn't the same fight in 4 but somehow was way more fucking shit lmao.
>>740540068shouldn't have made it require a 5080 and 9800x3d to hit 30 fps with framegen and dlss off at 1920x1080
>>740545587that was 100% on tokuda, have some faith in hiraoka
>>740544740>Bringing back monsters only Japan likes and putting them front and centre in the marketing right out of the gate>Shitting out a desperation port of Wilds to Switch 2It's all making sense now, they're desperately hoping that crawling back to the Japanese fans will save the game
>>740545394>>740545587People literally will just say the most retarded shit in their WDS lmao
>>740545714Oh sorry you're correct Gog was amazing in Milds really great boss design.
When Ascendance comes out and based Hiraoka redeems Wilds Tokuda will go down as the most hated director in the franchise
>>740545809Yeah he’s fun, reasonably challenging boss that mixes siege mechanics and classic combat
Shouldn't have put a jeet boy central to the main story
This is another FF15 situation where Nomura fucked off for 12 years and two console generations just for Tabata to pick the game up and have 15 months to release something. Hiraoka will be the fall guy so Lord Tokuda can claim his throne once more.
Why is it most of the people who bitch the loudest on /v/ just come off like smashfaggots who want final destination fox/falco only?
Monster Hunter Generations Ultimate is currently on sale for 5 bucks on the eshop. I'm probably going to pick that up since the wait until whatever monster hunter after wilds is probably gonna be a while which really sucks.
>>740544915This is the only Wilds content I got in my feed from the 11s
>>740545043What's worse, a 20 minute glorified cutscene or a 25 minute toenail trimming simulator?
It's going to be grim if Ascendance will have less mons than Iceborne, which is a likely scenario
still no inagami, no buy
>>740545962>redeems WildsDo we have the technology to unfuck the game though, I'm not going to suffer through the base game to experience the DLC
>>740544835you just fucking know the camera gonna pan back and he's gonna do some overly long cinematic super nova attack
>>740546085hopefully hiraoka will kill off nata
>>740540068Oh no no no no
>>740540068In a sane world people would have reacted to botw/totk the same way they have monster hunter wilds
>>740540068Duh they didn't show jack shit just like the Iceborne or Wilds reveals
>>740544915I hate Japanese consumers so, so, so much
>>740546474Mildissies we are so back
>>740546474#ReturnToWorld2026
>>740545308Wilds Gogmazios is dog shit
>>740545205>fight they like the monsterSo the Japanese are just mindless consoomers who enjoy the idea of characters for merchandising purposes and not what they actually represent in the games? Gotcha.
>literally just a teaser reveal with barely anything shown>guys why is discussion deadLooking at Persona 6, if there is still somehow discussion about THAT with a teaser that showed even less then I'd say /v/ discussion is mostly worthless as any sort of meaningful metric.
>>740546550Milds reveal was small monsters in a dust storm with Rathalos at the end.Ass showed 6 character re designs for timeskip, a new monster and its attacks, Lao, Kushala, Boost Bracer and several weapons doing new skills. You are coping hard.
>>740546278Iceborne added 34 monstersSunbreak added 32Without counting recolors both are around 18-20 monsters that weren't in the base game, new or returning. Real problem is that even if the new map is good for fights Wyveria and the cliffs still suck ass and anything new added there will be kneecapped by that unless they go back and add more rooms to those areas.
>>740546265i will take the latter thx
>>740546765The rooms you fight in in Wyveria are fine it just sucks that you have to do that fucking spiral and can’t jump down the middle for some reason
>>740546684>New map>New monster>Returning monsters>New combat mechanic>New story >"literally just a teaser reveal with barely anything shown"Just because it all looked like shit doesn't mean it doesn't count
>>740546684Persona had several days of legitimate leaks leading up to today and is a series that people don't completely hate now.
>told myself I'd wait until a good discount if I were to buy it>currently 58% off>no interest in buying it at allCapcom successfully beat the MH fanboy out of me
>>740547305It's also a series where people barely talk about the actual game past a certain point of time.
It generated no culture war ragebait like stellar blade so it gets no discussion here. Want discussion? Make a ragebait thread about how young women bad.
>>740547440>they beat the fanboy out of me with this game (I didn’t play it)Fucking jump off a bridge you people are so annoying
>>740547763They had two open betas for people to try the game for free, retard-kun
>>740547458>game so shit you can't drum up console war engagement farming because even the tendies don't want to touch it with a ten foot polefucking dire
>>740548424>2.6k viewsoh no
>>740540068>DalamadurYeah, like that's ever happening
Wilds hate discourse is so overblown. Yeah, it's real fucking mid for monhun, but the people who spend all day hating on it this long after release are genuinely deranged. As someone who checks in on the Steam discussion boards every now and then while at work, there are still dedicated schizos that troll in the Wilds discussions to this day? For what purpose? Just don't play it.
>>740548665It’s the same people posting here and Reddit lol just completely unhinged people who derived their value from landing level 3 GS charge
>>740546474>Rise at the bottomsausage
>>740548665I seriously think it's mostly driven by 5th gen babies who got mindbroken by the oldfags who were shitting on them for years for ruining classic Monster Hunter. They finally got a game that is undeniably worse than World or Rise and took the opportunity to release their pent up frustration. It was finally their turn to be the oldfags shitting on nu-MH.
>>740540068>Has any other developer ever fumbled their golden goose as badly as Capcom has with Monster Hunter?Just look at the absolute state of Halo after 343 took over
>>740548665Quiet acceptance of shit games is how you get even shittier games in the future.
>>740548930Rise never got any kind of reasonable playerbase on Steam. Even during Sunbreak’s absolute peak, it never pulled anything close to World/Icebourne numbers.
>>740549097Wilds really isn’t shit though. Like the story is annoying but it’s pretty minor all things considered.
>>740548665>Wilds hate discourse is so overblownnot at all, in fact it's the other way around, it's honestly disgraceful as a software before we even get to talk about the game itself
Watch all Wilds hateposting stop the second it releases on the Switch 2
It was one of the few announcements I cared about over the last few days. I do have some issues with Wilds but it's still fun. I really care more about the next game from the Rise team however and I don't like the heavy western pandering that World/Wilds do. I'm sure the boost glove thing will be fun though and I actually do love sky islands. Ever since watching Castle in the Sky as a kid, I've always loved them. Don't give a shit about Zelda though.
>>740549097You realize capcom not only have a page to submit feedback about the game, but also do surveys as well?
>PLEASE STOP MAKING FUN OF MILDS FUCKONG PLEASE ITS GOOD FUCK YOU KEAVE THE GAME ALONE ILL FUCKING KILL YOULol the game sucks ass
>>740549363Make that claim in that weeks famitsu thread.
>>740549268No there's a lot to hate about Wilds and it needs to be pointed out repeatedly so Capcom doesn't do it again. Millions of people agree because sales cratered after bad word of mouth got out a month after release.
>>740549502What happens if the Switch 2 port of Wilds rockets to the top and stays there for a few weeks?
What killed the hype?
>>740549591Oh, your that schizoid retard that just makes shit up about Wilds and has mods ban anyone that proves you wrong aren you?
>>740549268>Wilds really isn’t shit thoughYou are wrong, but thankfully very few people agree with you so there's still at least a faint hope for this franchise.>>740549383If those actually worked we wouldn't have gotten a game like Wilds, which doubled down on nearly all of the shit people hated about World, in the first place.
>>740540068More like Monster Hunter Wilds: Avoidance.Cause everyones gonna avoid buying it.
>>740549363it won't stop because i've hated on Wilds since release and i've never owned a switch. the game is streamlined garbage.
>>740548665The reality is that base Wilds is better than base World
>>740549838This isn’t saying much to be honest
>>740549620Of course you'd say that and not say 'outsell the PS5 version of the game'. I wonder why.
>>740549681>makes shit up about WildsYup, completely made up sales information.>has mods ban anyone that proves you wrongYou are insane.
>>740549874Everyone knows the PS5 version didn’t sell that well in Japan? That’s why they had bargain bin discounts after a while.
>>740544740and at the same time you get ugly NPCs and Capcom showing the middle finger to their jap audience.
>>740549838content-wise, maybe. but gameplay-wise world is ahead of wilds by a lot.
>>740549937>Noooo it’s totally impossible to do precision movements in milds without focus mode mods ban anyone that shows proves that it’s actually exactly the same in World when you don’t use focus Don’t deny this
>>740549937Post the latest earnings where Milds got destroyed by Rise AND Sunbreak and fell out of the top 10 so Shitcom extended the ranking list.
>>740547763>game needed a whole year to be somewhat optimized
How the fuck is the new gimmick going to work when all the buttons are pretty much occupied?
>>740550068>putting words in my mouthWilds defenders are actually schizophrenic retards.
>>740549989World is Wilds with simpler monsters that can be flash locked and mandatory fart sniffing segments
>>740540068Goddamn, this edit really emphasizes how fucking ugly the fog makes the game.
>>740550068This is advanced strawmanning
>>740550107Post all the threads where you swore “milds will never get an expansion it’s dead capcom are already making portable 6 and abandoning mainline”
Worldbros?
>>740549363more like all Wilds posting, because the 1000 extra sales won't revive discussion
>>740550240Never claimed it was not getting G rank because G rank is developed along side the base game dumbass
>>740550068>when you don’t use focusfocus is the issue>b-b-but don't press the button!!not an answer
>>740540068I will play it but I am not looking forward to all the new story shit. I just wanna hunt some new monsters, I don't wanna slow walk around the new zone.
>>740548665calling other people deranged then admitting you frequent the steam forums just to get mad about posts is extremely deranged
>>740550398You gay retards kept stating that capcom “butchered” movement outside of focus to penalize players for not using it, which isn’t true at all
>no switch 2 portwhy not? Do they hate money? Are they that shit at optimization? Do they really need all the ugly flashy effects? I'd be ok if they tuned it down
>>740550497i've literally never said that, nor have I seen anyone say that. wilds haters aren't a vocal minority where you can generalize their arguments. focus mode unnecessarily streamlines the game and in some cases completely destroys the identity of the weapons(greatsword).
>>740550647It barely runs on a PS5
>>740540068The problem is that the game is fundamentally uninteresting because they completely raped the combat. So there's nothing really they can show or announce that gets me excited about the expansion. It's time to move on.
>>740550705I have a horrible feeling focus mode is here to stay, and that will likely push me away entirely if it does
>>740550647It doesn't run on the Deck so it won't run on switch
>>740550647They announced a Switch 2 port quietly after the expansion announcement, no footage or release date
>>740550182we know what the game looks like without fog
>>740550647What are you talking about? They literally announced it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8mEvYYU0dE
>>740550647It's getting oneThey're making it out of desperation
>>740540068There wasn't even any hype at the event it debuted at. lmao.
>>740550817Focus mode will 100% still be in Wild Ass but I doubt it'll return in future games
>>740550878Notice how it is the Wilds logo and not the Ascendance logo
>>740548665No it isn't. Shit sucks.>Yeah, it's real fucking mid for monhunAll the more reason to not to fucking play it and return to the older games so what's your point?>Just don't play it.And we aren't you dipshit!>>740549268>forced to have a bitch by your side at all times that'll never shut the fuck up>Wilds really isn’t shit thoughWilds is ass and it's also boring. At least Handler stayed at fucking camp and didn't tell me to pick up shiny shit every time the monster changes areas.
>>740551009You have to port the base game to a platform before you port the DLC expansion for that game.
>>740550131It’s just a super mode probably just “press R2 with focus mode on” or similar
>>740551196Or you just do them togethereither way, the DLC is not getting on the Switch 2 at the same time as the other platforms, it'll probably be the year after if ever
>>740550817I'm fine with focus itself being used to change the direction of your attacks, I wanted that ever since the broken dragon piercer in worldI even like the focus attack itself with some weapons like gunlanceI hate focus attack in combination with the wound system
I think a lot of people that weren't familiar with monster hunter thought this was going to be the equivalent of Elden Ring for the series, the jumping on point for a bunch of people that heard about how "hardcore" and "cult classic" Monster Hunter is, but then it ended up being completely toothless
>>740549363Every time a "never ever" got a nintendo port it only accelerated the hateposting. Why the fuck would you think that would change this time?Just about every switch 2 owner I knew reacted to the wilds port news with "I didn't want it in the first place"
>>740549838I really don't know why people think this excludes Wilds from being disappointingWorld was the first MH to make the jump from a 3DS/PSP game to proper home console and PC. Back then the MH team had >no experience with modern AAA titles>almost no usable assets >no comparison point so they were trying to figure out how to balance things and make everything work>limited time and budget since Capcom was borderline bankruptThe main objective of World was "simply" to establish the MH formula for a new audience, and be the foundation for the future titles.Meanwhile Wilds came out 7 years later, after the team accumulated years of experience and feedback, plus Capcom had all the budget, assets and resources they wanted Wilds being better than base World was the absolute bare minimum, and somehow it didn't even manage to do that in every aspect (not only that but it somehow got worse in a few)
>>740553534Unironically the most common comment I've seen regarding Wilds on switch 2 is "I wanted Rise 2, not a part of Wilds"
YOOOOO THIS 100% LOOK FIRE!!!MORE DMC AND FRONTEIR IN MAINLINE IS WHAT THE PEOPLE WANTWILDS G RANK IS GONNA BE DOPE AFLEEEETTS GOOO!!!
>>740550279Amazing how badly they fumbled the optimization for both launch and dlc. And then more than half a decade later they do it again and its even worse.
>>740545043You actually have impact when fighting Zorah. Majority of every Lao fight is spent waiting on that slow fuck to move.
>>740554041>You actually have impact when fighting ZorahYou really don't
>>740540068Wilds fucking sucks and this is just more Wilds sadly.
>>740553908Accel Axe never ever especially now that every weapon has it's gimmick. Oh well.
>>740540068They really pissed the japanese players off. Which doesn't happen often, showing how badly they fucked up.
>>740540068What can you even discuss at the point other than hoping the performance gets unfucked and that the new gimmick doesn't ruin it even further
>>740555045Performance is already unfucked. What you can hope for is for them to not refuck performance like they did with Iceborne.
>>740540068>Has any other developer ever fumbled their golden goose as badly as Capcom has with Monster Hunter?Yes. Many times. So many times to much greater degrees that it's sad. They ARE fumbling pretty hard with Wilds but there's plenty of runway to get their footing with MH eventually, especially since Stories 3 was actually good.It's insane that for a company so focused on remastering, collecting, and remaking games from their past Capcom hasn't made a single MH remaster unless you count the Switch port of XX/GU. An HD upscale of Freedom Unite or P3rd would make its money back twice over in Japan's first week alone.
>>740555170As in actual performance unfucking and not the "they said the performance is fixed so it's totally unfucked now" kind of unfucking.Since they're trying to get it working on the Switch 2 there's a chance it might happen though.
>>740549185And yet it constantly gets shilled here. Cope, Risetranny.
>>740555336NTA but the game barely ran on minimum settings windowed with my browser closed at launch, and testing it last week I was able to bump it up to low-mid with my browser open and still run better so it's definitely been improved. I dare not go fullscreen or crank the settings up too high though. Also the character models initially loaded the super-low-poly versions for like 30 seconds before the full ones even in cutscenes.
I hope they now know the RE engine should ONLY BE USED FOR FUCKING RESIDENT EVIL OR SIMILAR FUCKING GAMES. NOT FOR FUCKING OPEN GAMES LIKE THIS OR DRAGONS FUCKING DOGMA. World and even fucking Rise looks better than this shit.
>>740555581The funniest thing is that Rise runs on the same engine
>>740549937>MUH SALES MUH SALES MUH SALES!!!!And yet Rice still has the least active playerbase compared to World and Wilds. Curious.
It looks bad. Even with a bright blue sky the engine manages to make things look dull
>>740553908>they keep spending a fuck ton of time and resources on these gimmicks that more often than not just mess up the core gameplay and are abandoned by the next game release>but they can't give us a new weapon type after almost 15 years since the last oneI'm so fucking tired of this shit
>>740555686Rise has probably more players than both currently, but majority of sales are on Switch 2 rn.
gemma sexo
>>740555681Rise works because it's not suffocating the screen with trees and slopes and the maps were smaller while keeping everything vertical.
>>740555686Probably because 2/3 of its sales have likely been on the switch alone. The switch version of rise is still heavily populated.
>>740557239World really dropped the standards for "hot" MonHun girls into the fucking dirt
>>740553534>>740553862Even if people actually wanted Wilds on Switch 2 the game is now infamous for running like utter fucking garbage even on strong hardware and looking like muddy shit, so nobody's going to have any interest in a port that makes that shit even worse