Uh Where is it bros?
Never ever. The only reason AC6 sold more than 10 copies was due to being carried by Elden Ring and normalfags still being infatuated with it. Now that the honeymoon is over and From knows no one genuinely likes giant robots they decided to stick to multiplayer games.
From has become addicted to easy money so they will continue to pump out low-effort slop like Slopreign for now. There's no incentive to invest time and money into making another actually good video game with a well thought out story and world building when millions of Fromdrones will happily lap up the lowliest SLOP
>>740543674Don't care, don't want it. 6 is rollslop garbage.
Why would they make 7 when the expansion game for 6 isn't out yet? Secondary retard.
>>740545698There's no iframes or rolling though
>>740543674Thankfully 6 bombed.
>>740544419ac6 sold more than every other mecha game put togetherthere is no way they won't keep doing more
>>740546161It made more money than any other title in the series
>>740546170What part of "due to being carried by Elden Ring" you don't understand? They won't make more because no one genuinely wanted it.
>>740545802erm, 6 WAS the expansion (hence having a subtitle?)
>>740546313Wild thing to claim when it reviewed well, sold well, and is generally like if you venture outside /v/
They will probably reveal it at the Japanese Game Show, I also expect something new about Nier/Drakengard
>>740546313yes, it sold because it's fromsoft and the next one will sell because it's fromsoft too
>>740546313but it sold well, there's no way to derive people wanting it from that fact
>>740543674Your 10 years too early, mate. Armored core games have a decade gap between each other.
>>740544419How do you even come up with this schizo head cannon?
>>740546464>Wild thing to claim when it reviewed wellSo did Dark Souls 2, because when a developer is extremely popular journos aren't willing to give it a bad review. >>740546490People don't care about Fromsoft as much as they did years ago. Which is one of the reasons they won't bother with Armored Core again. >>740546584It sold well because normalfags loved Elden Ring and though AC6 would be something similar. Then they found it wasn't and the game's sales plummeted to the point where while it indeed sold well at the end had the worst modern From Software sales since Dark Souls 2 (see a pattern)?
>>740544419TrvthnvkePeople realized they wasted their money and that not all From games are good that day
>>740546735>though AC6 would be something similar. Then they found it wasn't and the game's sales plummetedsource? It seems more likely fromsofts popularity simply exposed ac6 to more people than normal, then among those people were those who AC appealed to but otherwise wouldn't have known about it nor had faith in the developer ofSo rather than a "large number of people were tricked" it's more like "large number of people were made aware of ac6 and a small amount liked what they saw"
>>740546735>People don't care about Fromsoft as much as they did years agoThis is pure fantasy. SotE released just two years ago, sold great, and was nominated for GotY despite being an expansion. It seems like you really need to believe that AC6 was some sort of unmitigated disaster but reality tells a different story.
AC6 didn't respect the player enough, the only time anyone in the game gives a shit about you is when you one man army against the entire red army, literally every other mission in the game people are just shitting on you and calling you a noob
>>740543674>Wanted 6>Unreal Engine>EpigOnlinySpyware.dll malware.They didn't get my money. All From had to do was not take Timmy Tencent's blood money.
>>740543674Likely Project FMC and announced at the VGA. Duskchuds has to release for the Fischer-Price tablet console first.
>>740547315>SotE released just two years ago, And since then they decided to focus on multiplayer Souls games because they realized the money is there. >sold great5 millions vs Elden Ring's 20 millions. 75% fall off doesn't sound like good sales to me. >and was nominated for GotY despite being an expansionBecause journos had to suck From's dick due to still being super popular. Now it's not the case anymore.Remember, people are extremely bitter about Miyazaki vetoing the Bluepoint's remake and From is blamed for Bluepoint's closure.
>>740547432>people are just shitting on you and calling you a nooband then you murder them
>>740547093>So rather than a "large number of people were tricked" it's more like "large number of people were made aware of ac6 and a small amount liked what they saw"It was both. But the "small amount who liked what they saw" was just too small to justify wasting money on a new Armored Core.
>>740543674inside my 9thball
Waltuh
It's pretty telling how Megaton Musashi W was vastly superior to AC6 as both a mecha game and as a videogame and still it was a massive bomb just because it didn't have From's logo in the box. It's a perfect example of how no one cares about giant robots.
>>740547532>since then they decided to focus on multiplayer Souls gamesGame. They've release one game since then.
>>740546005wouldn't know, didn't play it, but I saw one of my favorite youtubers say it was shit so I won't play it
>>740547624>was just too small to justify wasting money on a new Armored Core.do we know the budget and dev time?
>>740547718Games: Nightreign and the upcoming Duskblood. From realized that Souls' multiplayer component is what prints money so they decided to refocus all of their operations on those games.
>>740547718well they're making a switch one as well
>>740547794Do you honestly believe that Armored Core 6 had a small budget? The kind of budget that would be able to make a profit from 100k sales? Not even the cheapest looking D3 Publisher games are able to make a profit from sub-200k sales.
>>740547713hmm yes the brand name is definitely the only reason ac6 did better than this nintendo game, surely
>>740547926I thought it sold 3 million?
>>740548062He's a schizo inventing reality in his head to suit his arguments
>>740548062Yes, but that's not the point.Those 3 million sales came from people who came from Elden Ring and expected something similar; the actual people who genuinely liked the concept would be 1/10 of that.
>>740543674we got gundam instead
>>740546245It didn't sale Elden Ring or Souls numbers.
If Armored Core 6 had sold due to audiences genuinely liking it From would have milked it rather than going back to Elden Ring with Shadow of the Erdtree and Nightreigns. From knows that it was carried by Elden Ring and that a new Armored Core game would be a massive commercial failure.
>>740548204I think ac6 was worth the dev resources then, I'm sure 7 will be too
>>740548315Yeah, souls fans bought it for mecha Souls but it doesn't play like a souls clone so the next one would bomb hard.
>>740548307it had a higher peak player count than sekiro or any souls game
>>740548307And it also had a lower budget than Elden Ring. Small budget+big sales=big profit
>>740548356>I think ac6 was worth the dev resources then, I'm sure 7 will be tooIt wasn't. That's why there won't be a 7. Compare it to Ace Combat 7: no popular franchise to carry it so those sales it had were on its own merits and were profitable enough to justify an eight game. Ace Combat 8 is releasing in three months while Armored Core 7 doesn't exist.
>>740548315Fromsoft doesn't release games that fast, and tends to be tight lipped about games that are too far out. An expansion for ER was already guaranteed.
>>740543674too busy rushing out their annual rollslop
>>740548415But was it higher than Elden Ring?
>>740548535>comparing a flight simulator to a good gameFuck off to your pink hair tranny thread.
>>740548612don't pretend to be retarded
>>740548675He has no other argument
>>740548675But was it higher than Elden Ring's?
>>740548535And yet nobody ever actually talks about ace combat games themselves. Hmmm.
>>740548736did sekiro and ds3 "bomb"?
I CANT TAKE IT ANYMORE. NEARLY THREE FUCKING YEARS
>>740548824Now you're being disingenuous. Of course Armored Core 6 didn't bomb (assuming that those 3 million sales were enough to make a profit compared to its budget). The point is that those three million sales weren't due to people genuinely wanting to play Armored Core, but because they loved Elden Ring and though that a new experience from the same developer would be of their liking too. From knows that audiences won't fall for the same self-deception again because now they know what Armored Core is about, so they decided to archive the franchise again and go back to what actually sells (Soulslikes).Valkyria Chronicles sold very well on modern systems due to the novelty and the game's prestige as a legendary "PS3 hidden gem", not because people genuinely liked the concept (remember, the original release bombed in PS3) but rather than reading between the lines Sega made Valkyria Chronicles 4, which ended being such a massive failure it killed the franchise for good. From is simply avoiding the same mistake. >>740548750No one talks about Armored Core either. But still Ace Combat managed to actually prove itself to be profitable.
FYI Armored Core 6 has one dedicated shitposter that has been malding about it since release. Literal DCS-kun tier spastic.
The only people who didn’t like Armored Core 6 were souls fags who got filtered by the helicopter boss or Balteus. Not good enough pilots to become a Raven
>>740549331Does Animal Crossing have a malding schizo? Might be A. C. games are cursed.
>>740549241>From knows that audiences won't fall for the same self-deceptionWhat deception? Other than the usual autists and old-AC diehards, people generally liked AC6. What would indicate that AC7 wouldn't sell?
>>740549241Holy newfagarmored core threads always reach bump limit. the ace combat numbers are inflated for sure people recognize armored core cues but not ace combat
>>740549241>Now you're being disingenuous.>Of course Armored Core 6 didn't bomb>>740546161>Thankfully 6 bombedhuh
>>740549460>people generally liked AC6. No, people liked Elden Ring. People gave AC6 good scores because they recognize it was a competently done game even when it was something they didn't like, and journalists gave it high scores because From Software is the industry's golden boy right now so no one wants to be "that guy who gave a beloved From game a 4/10" >What would indicate that AC7 wouldn't sell?Because it's not Elden Ring or a Soulslike, audiences got to play Armored Core 6 and now know it's not like those games they like, and more importantly normalfags loathe giant robots.
>>740549676It's pretty obvious >>740546161 it's not me.Again, if you're going to be disingenuous then it's a waste of time to reply to you.
>>740549725>No, people liked Elden Ring.>People gave AC6 good scores because they recognize it was a competently done game even when it was something they didn't like, and journalists gave it high scores because From Software is the industry's golden boy right now so no one wants to be "that guy who gave a beloved From game a 4/10"Genuinely, where the fuck are you getting this shit?
Oh, and forgot to add:There are so many Soulslikes from other developers because people like Soulslikes and those games were competent enough to get their own playerbases. Meanwhile the flood of mecha games released in the wake of AC6's reveal and release stopped as fast as it started because every single game bombed.
>>740549241>From knows that audiences won't fall for the same self-deception againI thought we established that it was a matter of exposure which is why you moved onto it being worth the dev resources
>>740549848Anyone with a functional brain can put two and two together. Did you know, for example, that plenty of Rotten Tomatoes' reviews shat on Pacific Rim calling it "Power Rangers silly shit"?
>>740544419they made Armored Cores 1-5 plus each one getting some type of expansion and those all combined sold less than 6they'll make a 7 for sure it just might not be for another 5 years or more
>>740549953In a bubble, and that's assuming that those three million sales were enough to cover Armored Core 6's budget (maybe they weren't and that's one of the true reasons behind From decided to archive the franchise again), the dev resources were worth. But now that the miracle was already performed, they know that it won't happen again.
>>740550009>plenty of Rotten Tomatoes' reviews shat on Pacific Rim calling it "Power Rangers silly shit"?You've lost the argument so you attempt to move the conversation to a movie from 13 years ago. Eat my asshole.
>>740550105>they made Armored Cores 1-5 plus each one getting some type of expansion and those all combined sold less than 6Those were back then when From was a B tier sweatshop that made all kind of odd jobs to keep their lights open. Videogame budgets were extremely different 30 years ago. >they'll make a 7 for sure it just might not be for another 5 years or moreThey won't make a 7. Why would they when Souls sells billions? >>740550201You're missing the point, again. I am citing Pacific Rim's reviews as an example of how audiences loathe giant robots, because you keep claiming that John Norman and little Timmy became hardcore /m/en since they played AC6, when they only bought that game because they saw From's logo in the box. Honestly I think you may have a mental disability given how I need to explain the facts in such a piecemeal way so you can grasp them.
>>740550146I think that normally when you have an unprecedented success you try to follow it up, not drop the ip, so I think fromsoft will make another one
>>740550408>I am citing Pacific Rim's reviews as an example of how audiences loathe giant robotsReviewers aren't the audience, they're largely psuedointellectual fart-sniffers and effectively 0% of the real market.
>>740550408The first Pacific Rim made money. The second one didn't, but it also wasn't a very good movie.
>>740550630>when you have an unprecedented success That's the issue: Armored Core 6 wasn't an unprecedented success. The game sold very well, but From knows that the game did it due to Elden Ring making people willing to buy their next project without thinking. >you try to follow it up, not drop the ip, so I think fromsoft will make another oneThey wont because it wasn't a success. In a way it's like those Kickstarters that get all the money and more due to the name of the developers but the finished project flounders: sold due to name and the audience's emotions, not due to the strength of the product itself. >>740550785Well, guess what: Pacific Rim was a commercial failure in the entire world sans China, and you know that China is very mercurial when it comes to media; they suddenly fall in love with something only to drop it at the tip of a hat. The only reason it got a sequel is due to the Chinese funding it.
>>740544419They've been making AC longer than your retarded zoomer ass has been alive I doubt they'll stop after their greatest success with the franchise yet
>>740547831Nightreign did what you literally are accusing AC6 of, riding off the coattails of Elden Ring, and it still sold half of SOTE. And do you seriously think a glorified extraction shooter in the form of Duskbloods, exclusive to a console nobody fucking owns, is gonna do even half as good as that?
>>740550972well it sold 3 million copies which is far more than previous games in the series, so I think it is a success. And it's an unprecedented success because no previous armored core game sold nearly as well. And yet, those previous games were considered by the developers successful enough to get sequels so then ac6 must be more than successful enough to get a sequel.
>>740551675Nightreign is being victim of Souls and From Software fatigue. Said fatigue doesn't mean people want Armored Core. Hell, that's another factor against a new Armored Core: the devleoper lost the prestige it used to sell people a game they didn't want. >exclusive to a console nobody fucking ownsNintendo consoles are insanely popular. >is gonna do even half as good as that?It will do very well because Nintendo fans always buy exclusive games regardless of actual quality. That's why no matter how awful franchises like Pokemon or Fire Emblem get they're always some the best selling games of their respective years. Did you forget that the Virtual Boy got revived and became a smash success? >>7405519253 millions due to Elden Ring and Dark Souls, not due to people genuinely liking the game. They're real sales made with real copies and paid with real money, but the truth behind those sales is one very different from "people liked Armored Core 6 and want mecha games".
>>740552091but if the previous games received sequels it only follows that the developers would make a sequel to the most successful game in the series
>>740552091Of course the success of DS and ER helped bring in a new audience. So far you've failed to justify the claim that a significant portion of those 3 million sales wouldn't buy a new AC game.
>>7405522761. From was a very different developer back then; it milked Armored Core because it was one of their consistent cash cows. Now that Dark Souls made them a AAA industry powerhouse they don't need Armored Core anymore. 2. The videogame industry was very different back then: the mission pack sequel was the norm and everyone was fine with it. Along with videogame costs being very small due to HD gaming not existing it allowed developers to pump out sequel after sequel of their cash cows and make a profit even when facing diminishing returns. 3. The audiences were extremely different back then. They're obsessed with realism and grittiness and only care about graphics, which places Armored Core in a position where it doesn't have a place in the modern world.Megaman had years of getting sequel after sequel after sequel, but eventually all came to an end.
>>740552487See>>740552529I just did. Basically "giant robots sucks, gimme medieval dark fantasy" is the opinion among videogame consumers. We got another God of War game while Battletech languishes.
Outside gaming, we had people like Sir Conan Doyle and L. Frank Baum. People didn't want ANYTHING from them that wasn't Sherlock Holmes and Oz so they had to keep making them until the end of their lives so they didn't starve.Armored Core 6 didn't bomb like Doyle's historical novels or Baum's non-Oz novels, but the principle is the same: people only want one thing from you as a creator and anything else is a waste.
>>740552627You still haven't demonstrated why there wouldn't be repeat customers for a new AC game. Don't bring other mecha franchises into this, they're irrelevant. This isn't a treatise on the mainstream viability of mecha.
>>740552529>they don't need Armored Core anymore.but that reasoning would've led them to not making armored core 6 in the first place either so I don't think that's a deciding factor>They're obsessed with realism and grittiness and only care about graphics, which places Armored Core in a position where it doesn't have a place in the modern world.but fromsoft's other titles, including elden ring, aren't considered graphically impressive and never have been, the praise for the popular souls games has always been its gameplay with its graphics only being given a pass at best if not seen as outdated, so I don't think that's a deciding factor either. Specifically, I don't think audience tastes have changed in a way that would make armored core more or less appealing, at least not in a demonstrable way
>>740553352>You still haven't demonstrated why there wouldn't be repeat customers for a new AC game.I did. >Don't bring other mecha franchises into this, they're irrelevant.They're absolutely relevant because AC selling on its own merits is dependent on the viability of mecha being commercially viable with mainstream audiences.
>>740552091>the devleoper lost the prestigeAccording to whom? Shitposters on /v/?
The moment Armored Core 7 is released I will be proved wrong. Until then I'm 100% in the right and I think (no, I'm sure) anons agree with me. You don't want to accept the truth because you want a new Armored Core. You're only harming yourselves.
>>740552627battletech is trash
>>740543674Be happy we got AC6 at all. Now Tenchu players. Those we can all laugh at.
>>740547713>but what about my heckin wholesome tranime game
>>740553617>AC7 will never come out because nobody bought Generic Mechaslop 35
I think fromslurp needs to allow ac6 players to invade tendies using their mechs in the tarnished edition of elden ring. Use cross play or something. Make the game always online too with invasions open 24/7 so they cannot escape>whybecause it's funny. It's the same engine so it's possible.
