Anyone played this? I think it's a really great way to play and enjoy classic wow that solves all the design problems/limitations of enduring mmo worlds. They should do more with permadeath in rpgs
>take an already slow and grindy game>now make it even slower and grindier because you're playing in a super safe and defensive way>permadeath in a game where it takes 200+ hours just to hit max levelgenuine autism
>>740545769Permadeath is a cheap way to introduce tension.Looting players is way better.
>>740546017You should try it, it makes the game meaningful at every level, is fun and relatively challenging to play through, brings use to all sorts of forgotten items, trinkets, craftables, consumables, etc, to preserve your life, and makes group gameplay way more interesting/memorable.
>>740546225Vanilla already is meaningful at every level. You don't need to introduce memedeath mode to make it fun.
>lose 300 hours of progress to a random lag spike or disconnect>"wow this is fun!"Anyone who plays this shit is mentally ill.
>>740546376>lose The purpose of a game is to have fun. If you want progress in wow classic you can make your own private server and spawn all the items the bosses drop for yourself. >loseYou also lose all character progress every single time an expansion is released. It's less about progress unless you're one of the very few people on earth who complete Naxx on hc.
740546519>if you don't want to lose hundreds of hours to a lag spike that means you just want everything handed to you instantlythe cope hardcorefags spin up is hilarious
>>740546017sry bro ur clueless. how is it slower and grindier? you just cant die. which makes it 10x more exciting
>>740546595>playing super slow and defensive and careful at all times is "more exciting">never ever ever taking any kind of risk is "more exciting"Like I said, genuine autism
>>740546560I'm just saying, it's a well over 20 year old video game which has pixels you can equip on your character as "progression." Boiling things down to "muh progress" and "muh lost progress" misses the entire purpose of playing video games to me. If you play this game with friends you WILL have memorable experiences, and eventually your character will die. That's the nature of the game. not endless prooooogress
>>740546560>>740546670why are you mad about being too much of a pussy to play hardcore. just move on pussy
>>740546670Your choice to play like that. In my experience the vast majority of players play the game pretty normally with a few extra items and whatever. People aren't playing as defensively as you seem to think they would because the point of the game is to have fun. Hell people were even playing that ultra hc mod in addition to the hc ruleset in order to make it even more difficult to play.
>>740546128This, shame the average player is a carebear and allergic to pvp.
>>740546519based fun haver and game enjoyer. I am at the age where i dont look at the time as "lost" bro its already lost lol, you are playing games, the point is did you have fun
I thoroughly enjoyed the material that griefers made like koronehc, terrorizing trannies and streamersbut that's about it, nothing else good came out of fagcore
>Man I'm so hardcore and epic I play where death is a REAL possibility! The true WoW experience!>Has 5 petrification flasks in his inventory and refuses to leave cities until he has every world buff
>>740548756it's not about being hardcore and epic, it's about having meaningful experiences with the gameworld and playerbase Petris can only be used after level 50, most characters in the game world aren't level 50
>>740545769I played this and it was awesome for about 1-2 months. Then the bots, gold selling, etc settled in and it was completely ruined. I really liked that dungeon had 1 day lock outs, I wish it was like this even on normal servers.
>>740549708what did the bots and gold selling ruin for you?
>>740545769Hardcore on a serversided game sounds retarded
>>740545769No. I’ll continue to play on my own solo server and avoid other people.
>>740545769every game should have a hardcore/perma death mode of some kindit's a good way to get players to utilize and explore every design possibility and engage with the game at a deeper level, it's the funnest way to play any game from a moment to moment perspective
I don't really understand why "hardcore" doesn't enable world obligatory PVP anywhereYes it can seem cruel but isn't it the point of Hardcore? I can also lead to more interesting interaction with players, like others trying to help each others, or players who kill a lot of other players being hunted down in the game by others to avenge their friends
>>740552830people just play the game anon, world pvp is complete ass with no meaningful interaction ever, those what if imagination scenarios don't existidk what you're suggesting exactly
>>740553216he's just a faggot who's never played the game and has no idea what he's talking about
>>740545769Why hasnt blizzard made a more iconic character than Whitemane will all their billions of dollars and 20 years of work, can anyone even name another female from wow that isn't jiana or sylvanas?
>>740553741azshara, alexstraza... uhhhh tyrande, maiev... uhhh
shill thread. you are defending a product. you are telling people how to engage with a product.
>>740550178The server
>>740554471how though?