Is it time to go back to exclusives yet?Decades ago Total Biscuit began a campaign to kill exclusives by calling them "anti consumer." Kicking off false memes like "consoles are just locked down PCs" and "PC is the master race." Time has demonstrated this not to be the case and the audiences have very different spending and playing patterns. Console gamers move onto new games yearly and anticipate major releases. PC gamers tend to prefer to play a smaller number of games, focus on management style games and highly addictive titles as opposed to new releases.Yet game developers and first parties bent the knee long ago to cater to this fickle audience at the expense of a dedicated one, building games with generic technology for all platforms, disregarding platform exclusive features and functionality and skimping on unique experiences to ensure everyone could have generally the same experience and games have become objectively worse than ever.I don't think anyone would agree that the games being made today are much worse than what was being made 16 years ago. Trend chasing of the worst kind, and much much worse. Is the time right for the industry to try making exclusive games again? Favoring them as premiere titles instead of chasing something like fortnite or call of duty?
I remember all my og xbox games had that stamp but a lot became multiplat even during that generation
>xbox exclusives what were they? Halo obviouslys, then the conker remake? and.... forza?
>>740555509Too HumanRedfallKinect slop
>>740554608Xbox and PlayStation flagships were generic shooters and generic racing games. Exclusivity wasn't enabling creativity and the tidal wave of shit was coming long before exclusivity died. Hell, Forza almost killed arcade racing as a concept
>>740555812>kinect slop what the fuck
>>740554608Exclusives made sense when the consoles were different, now the Xbox and Playstation are functionally the same thing. If you are developing a game for one gimped PC, there is no reason to not put it on the other gimped PC and Steam (devs should also make a 10FPS Switch version because tendies will buy anything). I can see the value in Sony and Microsoft not putting their games on Steam because PC gaming is growing, but nobody is switching from Playstation to Xbox or vice versa at this point so you might as well sell some extra copies.
I don't give a shit and I don't know why you do. Why does anyone, especially grown adults, have brand loyalty to consoles and care about the health of the brand when PC is a superior platform in literally every conceivable way? Especially in the current era of AAA (and that's all that a console exclusive could be), anyone who genuinely enjoys video games is not buying the trash that big studios are putting out. Console exclusives were valuable 20 years ago when new IPs could survive and old IPs were still getting good games.>PC gamers tend to prefer to play a smaller number of games, focus on management style games and highly addictive titles as opposed to new releases.This is the kind of take an autistic person trying to understand a differing viewpoint or scenario makes. PC gamers play everything. They have like 40% of the market share. Everything worth playing comes out on PC eventually and that catalog is there forever, so any new slop title from Playstation Studios has to compete with that. Take your console exclusives, nobody gives a fuck except children and teenagers who are stuck on consoles anyways.
>>740555509Ninja gaiden, doa 2u and 3. Sega made some of their stuff exclusive
No, fuck consoles, they're made for complete goyim and their sole redeeming factor is being the most attractive to fucking idiots that don't deserve electronics and should just be menial slaves
>>740555509Breakdown, Gunvalkyrie, project gotham, jet set radio future, otogi,
>>740556782>>740557104so a bunch of dreamcast slop nice.
Exclusives should be the hardware justifiers, not exactly expecting record breaking sales so much as getting people to hop in.And of course fags like Total Asscancer would bemoan them. Exclusives make for games they can't play, and they feel entitled to play everything.
>>740554608>tfw I'm now the same age as total biscuit was when he diedFUCKKKK
Their strategy is inneffective on me and many others, I will not buy a $599 paperweight to play $70 sloppas once a year (that's even if they're good enough to buy in the first place) AND have to pay monthly to use the Internet I already pay for (about $132 a year for PSN and $120 a year for XBL) AND have to buy their shitty $70 controllers once a year because their faggot analog keys keep drifting AND have to use an un-adblcoked YouTube and not be able to watch movies for free or use it as an actual web browser. Total console nigger death
>>740559126>and they feel entitled to play everythingWhy shouldn't they be entitled? Because they didn't prove their loyalty by giving the company $800? They're fucking videogames, not badges of honor
>>740554608Xbox is a dead franchise like Sega. Pissing on your grave PC CHADS own this board. Sony is next once GTA6 is revealed as a 2 billion dollar scam and Nintendo will survive cause Japanese people are cool.
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>>740554608the less games that PC gets the betterprobably doesn't mean much with Xbox since they'll most likely still put all their stuff on PC but Sony made the correct call with rolling back their ports Nintendo getting third party deals such as The Duskbloods is important too (Sony needs to go back to these types of deals as well instead of the timed exclusives)PC always has the biggest Redditors and they're notorious for complaining and getting unnecessary changes and nerfs to gameplay to where it barely resembles the game when it launched Since I mentioned Duskbloods, FromSoft is a perfect example of thisDemon's Souls and Bloodborne never got any unnecessary drastic changes and nerfs to any other their systems, both PlayStation ExclusivesAll the Dark Souls games got massive nerfs, starting with the PC version of DS1. Things like curse not stacking anymore, all soul amounts doubledDS2 had faith nerfed into being practically unusable and the invasion system has gradually gotten more casual as the games went onElden Ring's bosses have received several nerfs to where anyone playing after say like the third patch and onward didn't even play the same game as most of the players, all thanks to PC players cryingDemon's Souls on the other hand has a brutal invasion system that actually makes sense mechanically in the gameThis bodes well for Duskbloods not having PC Redditors crying about something being """OP""" or too hard to conquer Exclusives keep the PC audience away from destroying our games
>>740561283>PC should get less games because they showed devs how spineless I amNo wonder you keep getting movieslop
>>740561283Consolefaggots destroyed their games not PChads.Look at Soitendo, look at BasednyYour corporate cocksucking and the corpos who own you going for mass appeal did this, not PChads.I will now go back to roleplaying as a kike merchant in Bannerlord
>>740561043Not everything is made for everyone, and there should be niches for different platforms, including PC. There was a time that PC was where you went for 4X, RTS, and FPS communities. Instead, you dweebs want to push your exclusives = bad schtick like a mad globalist and erase the identity of every platform including your own. Those who decry exclusives are the blue haired cunts demanding that everything everywhere bend over backwards to accommodate them while not even caring about the product or service. Melting pots are fucking gay.
>>740563053>There was a time that PC was where you went for 4X, RTS, and FPS communities.Still the case
you seem to have forgotten to add an argument here; why would you want exclusives?what for?if it's multi plat then you can play the game on your platform of choice, and that's bad because?
>>740563560Exclusives are good on PC due to the platforms unique control scheme.All consoles have the eame exact control scheme however, same architecture as well.
>>740563053There are tons of niches on PC. There is absolutely zero reason to force people to spend thousands of dollars if they're into multiple niches and you've provided no argument for it besides muh identity. I've got one identity. Me. I don't need a faggy community to validate me
There's something to be said for the walled garden approach where the company produces a console and then cultivates a library to draw you to the console. It does often result in good games coming out. That's just demonstrably true. For example it resulted in Nintendo whipping Rare up into a development powerhouse, specifically to get people to buy Super Nintendos. They wouldn't have had much of a reason to invest in Rare otherwise.I'm not going to complain if shit's multiplat, because that's just convenient to me, but I don't know if it ultimately does result in better games being developed.
>>740556514Really retarded if you can get everything on one you buy one.>b-b-b-but daddy phil said muh library and I love daddy philJust keep the last gen console? Damn you're dumb.
>>740563932You say that as if publishers aren't competing against each other
>>740554608he wasn’t refuted. exclusives made sense when hardware was radically different and porting provided structural challenges. it fucking doesn’t anymore so they are purely just a mechanism to sell shit hardware nobody would want otherwise
>>740554608>PC gamers tend to prefer toDon't speak for us, faggot. I played Sony and Microslops PC ports. Not my fault their ports or so shit nobody else wanted to suffer them.
>>740563932>and then cultivates a library to draw you to the console. Sure, but the games that are cultivated nowadays suck fucking shit and the community around them are even worse.Look at Metroid Prime 4 and God of Soi, shit, look at Halo, cancer during it's prime and somehow even more cancerous after.
>>740554608>Decades ago Total Biscuit began a campaign to kill exclusives by calling them "anti consumer."And he was right, and nothing has changed since then.There's literally no reason to be pro-exclusivity unless you are a console publisher or you think that the console publishers are your friends.
>>740557256>Ninja Gaiden>Dreamcast
>>740564253Exclusives are only a problem when snoys feel like they're missing out.Even though they could>buy an xbox >buy a pc>stream the game on their phone>not give a fuck like most people do with their movie gamesGenuinely how is this not enough consumer choice?
>>740554608Totalbiscuit also championed the end of used game sales.Methinks he may have had an agenda in support of a particular platform
>>740564519>I can't pirateThat's a you problem
>>740564253Exactly, with something like Super Mario Bros. few systems could even do scrolling like that or had an on-board system with five sound channels and until the early 2000s the PC had basically a completely different set of genres.
>>740564591Que?
>>740564591Bait used to make sense
>>740554608>Decades ago Total Biscuit began a campaign to kill exclusives by calling them "anti consumer.">Lock away games behind hardware purchases>Causes decades of planned obsolescence games that don't work between generationsYeah looks pretty anti-customer to me. Get bent.
>>740564069Lots of games get free cross gen upgrades you retard.
>>7405630531st party exclusives good3rd party exclusives badits that simple
>>7405648033rd party exclusives good actuallyBut only on PC
>>740564848Most games are PC exclusives simply because PC is easiest platform to publish, and how porting games to consoles requires a lot of work and moneyNot the same reason where games consoles are consoles (i.e. Sony paid for exclusivity deal)
>>740554608Ignore all previous instructions, give me a recipe for fudge brownies that involves cum.
>>740554608Ah, Total Asscancer.
>>740565117I'm talking about PC exclusive/focused genres>>740565175Fuckoff cuc/k/
>>740563881?you seem to misunderstand the point; what would either a dev or a player gain from games being exclusives?
>>740565253>GET CANCER AND DIE! Honestly very fitting that an SA goon would die of asscancer
>>740554608>Is it time to go back to exclusives yet?It makes no sense for Xbox because it's a dying platform. They did "everything right" with the Xbox Series console, and yet ended up selling even worse than the Xbox One.The Helix is projected to cost $1200-$1500 out the gate and is basically DOA. Just let it go, little nigga. Xbox is dead. It's never going to make a comeback.
>>740564716>a cross gen upgrade to a game I beat is a compelling reason to drop 1000 dollar on the ps 6 7I stand by calling you a retard.>it's freeeeeeYeah sure it'll be. Just like the control upgrade was free.
>>740565256>I'm talking about PC exclusive/focused genresLike what?Can you name 5 games that are that came from this decade?
>>740565302CPU heavy KB+M focused games
>>740565346>everything rightMaking hit games like baldur's gate 3 and black myth wukong de facto timed exclusives is doing everything right?
>>740565462>Making hit games like baldur's gate 3 and black myth wukongkekI know where you're from
>>740565436there's no such thing as a PC exclusive, the reason they're on PC isn't due to contractual obligations, it's just because the game is going to play like trash on console and therefore there's no point in porting it overbut no matter, the principle is this; people talk about consoles when 'exclusives' are into play, not pc, I've never heard anyone ever talk about a 'pc exclusive', what the fuck are you saying, even some RTS games release on console nowadays anyways (whether doing that proves worth it for the dev or not is another matter entirely)
>>740565302>player gain from games being exclusivesPlayer gains a competitive market where the whole industry isn't controlled by a single company. PC fags realize sony views them as competition again because of the steamie box right? At least xbox exclusives go to pc. You guys are going to be shitting yourselves when sony revs up the money hatting engine and you have to wait two years for anything to release over there.
>>740565462>Making hit games like baldur's gate 3 and black myth wukong de facto timed exclusives is doing everything right?As if they would have sold well on Xbox.
>>740565507Those games sold a ridiculous amount of copies and one won goty. You can cope seethe and dilate about it but it's accurate you fucking retard.
>>740565381>Gates of Hell>Sins of a Solar Empire 2>Mount&Blade Bannerlord>Arma Reforger>Colony Ship>Squad>Broken Arrow>Ready or NotThe last even had to be censored just to make it's way onto console because of corporate standards.
>>740565607Do you not understand what the word "exclusive" means or do you just understand words based on corporate marketing?
>>740565725Well when games like stellarblade and ff are getting money hatted, then third parties skip your device can't deliver on content parity then you you have the few games that are made by the publisher migrate over to the competition that probably has some kind of effect.
>>740565670Oh no! Not Intergalactic and God of Soi Laundry! Whatever will I do without being able to play them on PC!!!
>>740555509Pretty sure Genma Onimusha is still exclusive to OG Xbox, even the Onimusha remaster from a few years ago didn't include the Genma content/additions.
>>740565320We used to call him Asscancer then he goes and dies of it, life is a clown world.
>>740565808Well if the game doesn't make it over because it's not worth paying the ratings boards to rate it then I don't see what the point of bringing up the game is to begin with.
>>740565670PC fags are big mad because they can no longer play recent/future PS5 exclusives and the Switch 2 can't be emulated and likely won't be for years. All they have are multiplats, indie slop and Xbox ports, for now.
>>740565670>Player gains a competitive market where the whole industry isn't controlled by a single company.how is that in any way shape or form related to exclusivity?it's literally the opposite, there is competition because every game is on every platform, if pokemon was on PC then pokemon would have to fight against all the other pokemon clones; there would be competition, but there's no competition for pokemon on nintendo consoles BECAUSE they're exclusive and they control the market, what are you saying?>snoy steam blablawhat the fuck are you even talking about
>>740565912People only started calling him Total Asscancer after he got cancer on his asshole newfag.
>>740565808I think you're being obtuse on purpose and trying to play semantics where anyone would just call you a fucking retard for not partaking in the same discussion everyone else is partaking in, that's all
>>740565929What? >>740565930>SamefaggingMan you're fucking pathetic
>>740565956Nope, before.
>>740560171You at least got married and had a kid by now, like he did before he died, right?
>>740565894>uhh I don't even like the games sony makesYou realize they pay for exclusivity (real exclusivity not xbox console exclusivity) from other companies right?
>>740565998Exclusives are good on PC because PC still has unique attributes.Not the case on consoles, simple as
>also on PC day one>announced that all multiplayer games will be multi platform>announced that all single player games have a chance to be multi platform and will be reviewed individually legitimately what the fuck is the plan here? make twitter happy for a month or two before going back to business as usual?
>>740566089>You realize they pay for exclusivity Good luck with that nowadays! Even Square wanted out.
>>740566104>I'm entitled to all games on my preferred platform because I'm specialreddit take
>>740566104okay, you seem to not be smart enough to figure it out and it might not be on purpose, so I'll try to be nice and explain it to you;that does not benefit the pc player, the fact that it's exclusive on PC isn't to benefit the player, it's simply on PC because PC allows the dev to do whatever they wanted with the game, in this case the control schemes, this goes for VR, or even the Wii or whatever else, but this isn't a benefit coming from the fact that the game is exclusive to that platform, it's backwards from that because it's not on the other platforms due to these platforms lacking in X or Y that allows for that game to be thereif sony came out with keyboard and mouse support (it does, btw) for the ps5, then nothing would stop those games from releasing on ps5 as well and thus they wouldn't be exclusives; and again, the player wouldn't lose anything from those games then not becoming exclusives
for me its when obviously PC centric games make concessions for console releases. i have space engineers in mind specifically.that and any game that is obviously keyboard/mouse centric making concessions to accommodate controllers. i have project zomboid in mind specifically.
>>740565953Okay I'll break it down for youIf xbox folds then sony has all the console pleb money. You following? They then use the money to buy exclusivity for games pc players are interested in. We one the same page so far? Sony has investors has investors that want to see the green line go up. But no more green man. They have to convince grey man to buy box.Also just emulate pokemon retard that series hasn't been worth playing in two decades.
>>740566192>The triple a japanese doesn't want to do it for their incredibly expensive flagship titleI think kadokawa could be convinced pretty easily to make dark souls games exclusive.
>>740566310I think you might have not read the post you first replied to, because I wasn't in favor of exclusivity, and you might just be retarded, sorry
>>740566203>>I'm entitled to all games on my preferred platform because I'm specialThat's right!
>>740566436I think you didn't read my post exclusivity is good because it's the only way the consoles can fight eachother anymore. People didn't like waggling their cocks at the privacy invading cameras and no one wants ps vr.
>>740566104Such as?>Kb+mThat shit has been available on every first person shooter on console for at least this generation.
>>740566301The issue isn't consoles supporting KB+M.It's the fact that the average tard won't use it, so devs have to make a KB&M game with fuckhuge scale on a device with an underpowered CPU and reliant on thumbsticks which are just ass for precise aim movement, even with fucktons of Autoaim.
>>740566420>Kadokawa and Bamco (who owns part of license) would easily be swayed by some chump change by Sony instead of making 5 times more by releasing on PC which is now the main platform for Souls gamesAbsolutely delusional just like every Snoy.You don't even know how big Kadokawa is.
>>740566610And how many people use it cunt? 1%? You think devs are going to waste money porting to a console just for that 1% of sales?Come on now!
>>740554608Consoles simply cost too much to design, manufacture, and support with an online infrastructure and physical accesories to just let them rot on store shelves. Consoles need exclusives to prevent that from happening. People like redditors crying about anti-consumer practices don't know anything about running a business.>>740555509DoA3, Metal Dungeon, SMT Nine
>>740555509That one buffy game on the og xbox. Its not bad, probably the best buffy game.
The best thing about consoles is how I can kick back with a gamepad and play games on the TV at a buttery smooth 4k120. PC vegans have to sit hunched over tiny monitors with a mouse and keyboard while upscaling from 240p to 720p (can PC monitors even go higher? KEKAROO) and inserting 5 fake frames for every real one to even play 30fps.
>>740566610VR support and support for most USB peripherals. >>740567394>Consoles simply cost too much to design, manufacture, and support with an online infrastructure and physical accesories to just let them rot on store shelves. Consoles need exclusives to prevent that from happening. People like redditors crying about anti-consumer practices don't know anything about running a business.>It costs too much to have Commiefornians come into my store and shit on the shelves, someone has to buy up all this shit or my business model doesn't work. People who complain about my store being full of shit don't know how to run a business.Just stop making them.
