>The reason female characters never look like their face scan counterparts is because the technology just isn't there yet to accurately capture peoples' faces>For some reason Debra Wilson is exempt from this phenomenonWhy do they lie?
Because they hate you, and they're doing it on purpose.
>>740558274It's like MaleShep never existed
>it's important that my children see their mother in video games>other mothers? Fathers? Literally anyone else?>no, I'm more important because I iz black
>>740558274She's easy to work with, chud.
>>740558274>the technology just isn't there yet to accurately capture peoples' facesThis is a flagrant lie. The technology was there 25 years ago.
>>740559191>valve added hag linesThey really were always woke
>>740558274Because she already looks uncanny.
>>740558940Have you seen him lately? That nigga turned into The Illusive Man
>>740558274>Redoing a laser scan: money>paying likeness rights: money >full body laser scan: money>tweeking a scanned model because laser scans are shit:money>Lying to the media and customers about a detail they can't be sued over: not as much money
>>740558274>Why do they lie?they are doing their ameri woke taqiyya thinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPCw09-DNFgkek
>>740558274People massively overstate the role of anita types in this type of character design. A lot of this is due to an obsession with realism at the expense of good art direction and an inferiority complex toward the medium of films. A lot of devs (like druck himself) feel an inferiority complex towards cinema and want games to be taken seriously as not just a fantasy for teen boys. So it results in bland corporate designs.Woke blandification absolutely does happen (like concord) but i dont think its the main driver in bland designs.
>>740558274She has her own military grade face scan rig
>>740559769>A lot of devs (like druck himself) feel an inferiority complex towards cinemaWell those devs are fucking retarded. Video games eclipsed film as a medium decades ago.
>>740559729>>740559769To be fair these are airbrushed, edited model photos for the women models and said women are using makeup in the photos, it makes sense their characters will look different. And in the case of spiderman 2, the models face was damaged in a car accident iirc. Not that it justifies bland corporate art direction for the women.People on the other hand are used to men looking uglier.
>>740559729I genuinely believe makeup is part of the problem. Women go to a lot of effort concealing imperfections that a face scan will not. With men you're used to seeing much closer to the raw face which is why is easier to recreate faithfully.
>>740559864No it didnt? Maybe in terms of the revenue you can generate, especially from live service, but as an art form it is still not taken seriously by boomers and you still see people trying to say violent video games cause mass shooters while you never see the same for violent movies. Video games still are not taken as seriously as an art form as films are and that's why insecure fucks like Druckmann make their way into positions at game studios and then make "le cinematic third person action adventure game with quick time events and 10 minute long cutscenes".
>>740558274>Debra not attractive but really good voice actorWhy not just have her voice act? Why do motion and facial capture?
>>740560089>airbrushing is the difference between hannah hoekstra and that fat guy with shit hair
>>740558274nigga what is "practice"?
>>740560089"Those men are ugly"Women squirt to Keanu on the daily, anon
>>740560109>>740560089that's 100% bullshit. the face scan first goes through a software like zbrush where literally everything about the scan can be altered or fixed, all the proportions, etc then the final model is retopologized for game engines. this is necessarily the pipeline.artists who study anatomy known exactly how to sculpt an attractive female face. you could study human anatomy yourself. the same principles apply.
>>740558274Face scan tech has been perfected for decades, anon. Western women are just fucking ugly orcs.Even google's algo knows it.
>>740560142We measure things off of US dollars, not baby boomers' feelings.
>>740560956musicbros...
>>740560089That is just pure bullshit. You look at Kojima and he did it on the Playstation 3. Stop eating a bag of dicks
>>740558274>>740558963debra wilson doesn't ask for it, the devs usually request a face scan of her.
>>740560089Elle Fanning also wears makeup but her scan in Death Stranding 2 is almost 1:1.Kojimbo just has alien technology i guess.
>>740559729here are your reasons, there are different beauty standards for men and womsn1. camera angles2. focal length3. lighting4. make upAction movie stars like keanu reeves look normal because he's filmed at a variety of focal lengths and wear minimal makeup in comparison to women
>>740561187So what you're saying is the developer is wrong?
>>740561362No I'm saying you're wrong for obsessing over it.
>>740560109No it isn't.
>>740561421>This kid keeps saying that the Emperor has no clothes>Fucking obsessed, what an incel
>>740558274>>For some reason Debra Wilson is exempt from this phenomenonThat's because she's fucking hideous, so even if her face-scan gets fucked up, no one is gonna be able to tell.
According to Kojima, faces with very distinctive features are much easier to scan and get right than more flawless or generically beautiful faces.
>>740559864No. Video games are not art. They are products and entertainment. People that make video games are only different from whores in spelling.
David Cage was able to perfectly face scan women back on the ps3 so what happened?
>>740558274>For some reason Debra Wilson is exempt from this phenomenonThis isn't true, there are sometimes clear differences in quality even with her, especially when it comes to her eyes looking weird or not. Compare her scan between Jedi Fallen Order and Jedi Survivor games for example.
>>740561421>stop obsessing over... the thing developers keep addingPerhaps you should say that to the devs
>>740559191>volvo gave her a strokeholy based
>>740561048>>740561306Kojima is more the exception proves the rule i guess. And kojima openly indulges in making his games silly and fun in a way that honors gaming and cinema alike, though he couldnt write a proper, well-edited and written story to save his life. Whereas the likes of druck are obsessed with being seen as the next terrence malick or whatever and that influences their art direction.>>740560705There are plenty of fat and ugly dudes who date, marry, and have kids with hotties. I am not a feminist but it's true women have lower beauty standards for men.
>>740561812>They are products and entertainment.Like most movies and music. High art is rare in any medium.
>>740559729>idris alba
Kojima proved that's not true
>>740562912>women have lower beauty standards for men.Ah yes, rich ugly dudes marrying hottiesThat's totally disproves hypergamy and proves men are the judgemental onesThat's totally how nature works
>>740560089>car accidentShe looks the same now as she did in the given image. Even if it were the reason they have people, and the old model, to fix anything wrong. It being that fucked is not justifiable- some faggot wanted her to look wrong.
>>740558274>Technology doesn't exist yet that could make Debra's face beautiful
>>740558274Men are also exempt from that. >Why do they lie?Because they are winners who don't care about gay shit like the truth. They care about winning. Which is why they have been winning a lot and are in control of most studios and media institutions now, while retards like you go "hmm, they're not being very truthful, guvna".
>>740559191the technology in half life 2 was literally just modeling the face in maya by hand
>>740558274Literally no one has ever said this
>>740566891why does winning entail doing ugly shit?is it a requirement somehow?
>>740567630box modelling is the master race way of making 3D models
>>740562912you literally dodged the fucking answer. Kojima PROVED that tech as old as the PS3 era can replicate western faces properly. It is a choice by design, not a fucking complication. There is no fucking exception. There is only exclusion because muh beliefs.
>>740568697The reason why Concord got all that hate is because of basic examples like this. MGS4 was released, Concord took 9 fucking years with the excuse of doing detailed face tech. What a bunch of lies corporate shareholders ate up because they are retarded about their investments.
>>740558274Interactive movie games usually have the character look like the actress. Kaitlyn in The Quarry is literally just Brenda Song.
>>740560956>books that high99% of it is the textbook industry isn't it
>>740560956i had no idea books made more money than filmsi thought less and less people are reading books
Modern /v/ really is obsessed with normie games
>>740559729WHAT THE FUCK KIND OF NAME IS HUMBERLY
>>740559729>>740561342How do you explain Spiderman, her eye position and forehead height is completely different
>>740558274Because they will frequently edit or adjust them after the fact, which means needing to use photo reference material communicated back-and-forth between retards.There will be consistent distortion, because of the use of iphone cameras, it's like if editors were told to make a voice recording sound like the 10$ mic of some random kid in the 2000s.Debra Wilson face scans include less retard back-and-forth.
>>740560142Who cares what dumbass boomers think? They think anything the next generations creates is trash anyway (whether it's true or not)And criminals use that as an excuse because they know how emotionally captivating videogames are, which is why it's a low hanging fruit for them to get out of a prison sentence. If anything it just proves videogames are more powerful than movies.
every character in this game looks like avengers live service game tier larping costumesits so badthe gameplay and "stealth" looked really bad too
doesn't even have to look like the actresshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_awS3u-V_nE>9 years ago
>>740558274It’s because we live in an age of darkness and evil detests beauty
>>740559769>A lot of devs (like druck himself) feel an inferiority complex towards cinema and want games to be taken seriously as not just a fantasy for teen boys.I hate that this trend has persisted for so long and doesn't seem to be going away. Although nowadays they seem to aspire to the grand heights of Amazon originals rather than Hollywood.
What if it turns out that all the face scans have been accurate and women celebrities just look vastly different when they don't have a bunch of professional makeup applied, fashionable clothes picked out for them, and favorable angles and lighting applied?
>>740562912>women have lower beauty standards for menWomen are 2-3x more likely to be obese than men in any given country lol
>>740568697>>740568762My point wasnt really disagreeing with you; bland designs are a large part due to dull design/art direction(My original post was here >>740559769). But you cant deny sheer ineptitude plays a role. Aloy in the horizon games has plenty of sexualized outfits, yet it didnt stop them from screwing up her face in 2 in an effort to make it detailed.Likewise, black cat in spiderman 2 is openly sexualized, yet because mjs face model was fucked up by an accident, mj looks hideous.As i said before, woke blandification absolutely does exist (the aforementioned concord) but i dont think it is the main driver of bland designs. And considering that horizon and spiderman have sexualization, i think a part of it is due to a competency crisis in aaa gaming. Kojima has been spearheading cinematics in gaming for decades, comparing the expertise of his team to other aaa companies is like comparing Scorcese to the russo brothers.My personal hot take is that anita types helped provide wokey justifications for developers to shift away from stylized attractive design, but not much of a catalyst. Woke stuff in the entertainment industries is more of a symptom of rot and stagnation than the cause of the rot itself, and often serves as a sleazy way to justify moronic behavior.
>>740558274Yall spics obsessed with this baldo
>>740559729Friendly reminder those men are beautiful and those women are ugly IRLWhat you want is for game devs to not only accurately model the face models but to also doll them up with make-up. The setting in most games don't warrant use of make-up for beauty.
>>740560751>artists who study anatomy known exactly how to sculpt an attractive female face.so you are saying you dont want the in-game model to look like the actual face model but attractive women?
>>740558274The actual reason is you don't care about Debra Wilson, and you don't care about men.Therefore you don't scrutinise their character models. You just glance at them and go "yup, that looks like 'em I guess".
>>740559729Those are ten accurate face scans, I don' t see the issue
>>740560627What's it like when you have extreme body dysmorphia but like, for someone elseI genuinely think Anons are breaching new ground here when it comes to mental illnesses
>>740576605i'm saying they have the tools and the knowledge to fix the models but they choose not to
>>740578249That would defeat the purpose of using someone's likeness
>>740561590She's been face scanned in less than 10 games anon.You genuinely are obsessed.
