To this day, irrefutable. Talented and gifted people always have it easier than others.
Being born rich will give you more advantages than anything else
>>740558325>MUH TALENTthe final cry of the worthless lazy faggot
>>740558325That would imply that wealth was born of meritocracy
>>740558325>>740558493Luck is also talent so that checks out
>>740558325He's wrong though. The magic ticket is "money" or "power"
>>740558325Adachi had talent, he just was a pissy baby. He had a pretty decent life going for him, but he was mad at the world that he didn't always win all the time.
>>740558325I always think it more as others who were born into better means to hone their skills from an early age are seen as talented. Like somebody whose father played guitar, lent it to his kid, and probably got him lessons too. Meanwhile another child has a mother who didn't give a shit about actually being a parent and just wanted him to fuck off in his room because he was giving her a headache. Sorry, I'm projecting.
>>740558561Okay how do you get those, retard?
>>740558697You're born with it, underage dumbass. Only an extreme minority break out of their assigned social class at birth.
>>740558325Nah, it's all about who you know. Talent is like fifth most important for actually making it.
>>740558325>Worthless baby rager pisses and moans his black pill epiphany until you swallow it with himYukiko.jpg
>>740558325>being born with talent is what makes you succeed in lifeno, it's being born into a wealth family with connectionsadachi is stupid
>>740558325I've never related to a vidya character as much as Adachi
>>740558325Maruki's reasoning was better.
>>740558325you ever hear of nepotism
>>740558325When was Adachi held back in life due to a lack of natural talent?
>>740558325No, talent is a factor. But if someone only has talent but lacks money, social IQ, connections, opportunities, genetic health, family then talent alone won't amount to much. You can have an easier time in your environment if you can outpace your peers but you could just as easily get taken advantage of by the ones born with real power.
>>740558325He's wrong though.Nepotism >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Talent
>>740559303Attractiveness>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Nepotism>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Talent
>>740558810>Talent is like fifth most important for actually making it.I think you're exactly right.1. Wealth2. Health3. Social skills4. Intelligence5. Talent
>>740558325In my 20s, I would argue against this point.In my 30s, I'm just encouraging everyone who thinks like this to neck themselves. Go do heroin until you're not my problem anymore.
>join the police force just to carry a gun like you're a fucking child>waaaa I have to actually be a cop??????>get demoted for pretending to be a rookie all the time and doing dumb shit>wtf society hates me?????>boss invites you to his home regularly for dinner, town generally likes you, an old woman even offers you free food daily>fuck I have to rape and kill women nobody likes me
Being born as a child of famous celebrity is usually a bad thing.A wealthy businessman that nobody knows is better.
>>740558325The talent of having a trust fund.
how do i reroll on life?
>>740559540Adachi was just terrible with women and an actual incel.A good girlfriend would've fixed him.
>>740559743Reincarnation but you can't kys because those souls have a special place in hell
>>740558325'Talent' is always the cry of the ignorant. By a lot of metrics, Adachi succeeded at life: he was born from parents that got him to study hard, he got a job in a highly-respected profession, and he was even lucky enough to not only keep his job after messing up, but also got relocated to a smaller community that he could become a vital part of, AND he got a mentor that is highly skilled and wants to train Adachi to become the best he can be. But Adachi doesn't focus on the benefits of his life, only the downsides. He takes no responsibility for his own life, and seeks out any possible excuse to justify his self-made hardships.
adachi's definition of talent is successfully raping wealthy women
>>740558325He is also forgetting connections and luck which are far more important than talent.
>>740559010Not really. Maruki didn't really solve anything and just shuffled people to other shit rather than what they wanted. Besides, if a teenager could beat him then the world would have been utterly fucked if/when Nyralathotep rolled in
>>740558325>was literally gifted a Persona>has a gun in nipland>could rape freely>Ameno Sagiri chose him as a hostSeems like Adachi was pretty talented and gifted himself which kind of defeats his own argument.
>>740560718>>740558325Frankly, Adachi had a pretty cushy gig. Barely had to do any actual work in a comfy community on top of the powers. Shit, if he wanted to go the rapist route, he could've just lured women into the tv world and use charm moves on them or something
As someone who had never touch the Persona games, is the villian motives actually sums it up just to rape in Persona 4?
>>740558325This is a good thing tho, if you are white, were born in a wealthy family and are decently attractive you should've it easier, only unwhites will seethe but he is a chinkoid asian so I get why he is so pissed.
>>740560718Nah, I mean he is talented, but not talented enough to his standards to not hate his life
>>740560718I want an actual adachi post game where he has to confront his sins and hypocritical nature. Dude really is his own counterpoint. Ultimax didn't do his prosecution justice.
>>740558325And? You gonna do something or are you gonna cry about it? Cause if it's the latter you might as well just kill yourself.
>>740558697Nepotism, or affirmative actionOr be jewish and get both
>>740558325Actually, talent means nothing.Success in life revolves around one and only one thing: how much people like you. Which is influenced by looks, charisma, and perceived power.
>>740559010Shiho shall not be unraped, heretic.
>>740558325Can't stand japslop all the writing is done by bugmen with arrested development, low T and high cortisol
>>740561358This + nepotism and there is a small chance you crash out after getting it with both if you are a total retard but the bar isn't that high
Everyone doesn't realize their is an individual human limit that you will hit. A fucking wall that only the best break down and being gifted will let you reach that block faster than others but mentality is what breaks through and turns you into a champion amongst others.
>>740561420This. Japan is racist, mysoginistic and antisemite.Good thing we have western games!
>>740561358Only if your competitive environment is low stakes. High stakes wealth and real power matter, most importantly the criminal or judicial capacity.
>>740561420so true girl I am glad we have our Goddess of War game. snap snap
>>740561035???
>>740558325Just means you have to claw your way out of hell harder than other people; so what? The hell are you going to do about it, cry and stagnate until you're immobile? Yeah, some people have it better than me. Some have it worse. I don't give a fuck. I'm me, nobody else. The ones who want shortcuts to get them where they want to be without actually working towards it, those are the ones you should hate, as well as those who look down on those who have to work for a living. It's pathetic, the way people lie to themselves like that. "I'm better because I didn't have to work as hard," "I don't need to learn because other things can do this stuff for me," it's all just cope. You're still a human, don't pretend you're on another level just because you were either born with a handicap or given one by society. Get over yourself, get real. That's the problem with people today. They've channeled their insecurity into a weapon they can bash other people with. You see it all over the internet, you see it concentrated all over /v/. So many Adachis.
>>740558325Don't forget about money. Obviously an asshole is gonna get a huge headstart if it's from a wealthy family
>>740558325He may be right...BUT HE IS TRYING TO MAKE THAT EVERYONE ELSE PROBLEM! FUCK HIM!
>>740558325truth nuke
>>740559010>jackass decides he knows what's best for everyone and changes reality to his whims >he's not even good at being a god since if he can't solve a problem he just shuffles someone into a different path in life>it's actually just a coping mechanism because he can't get over his own trauma>leaving this guy the keys to realityakechi was right
the only thing that matters is how rich your parents are
>>740558325>figure out the villains motivation>"i'm just crazy and want to burn it all down"This faucet ran dry real fast. It's like mystery games where the the answer is that it's all in your head
>>740559010No.
>>740558325Talent is just pursued interest.
>>740558325this argument doesn't absolve him of murder though.
>>740559010Maruki's personas should have been in the inverse order, as they are right now he does appear to be a well intended dumbass
>>740558325Talent doesnt exist.
>>740558325Talen isn't real. Your just a lazy retard that can't be bothered to actually put any effort in to pursue your dreams, and them blame it on everyone and everything but yourself. Talent isn't what drives a man to draw with his fucking teeth when he loses the ability to move from the neck down, it's passion and effort, things people like you have neither of. Anyone can do anything if they put the effort in, but it won't just happen because you want it to, you have to make it happen. All your doing is making excuses.
>>740559350Nepotism>>Attractiveness>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Talent>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Effort
>>740558325the first time the narrative introduces adachi he's puking after witnessing miyumi's body. he knew he killed her at that point. dude doesn't believe a word he's saying. he's been on copium for 9 months trying to rationalize his murdering 2 people.
>>740565485That's just Japanese detective stories which directly contradict themselves if the plot requires it
>>740565538>don't pay attention to this deliberate thing the game about psychology shows you and compare it to his later dialogueno thanks anonymous retard.
>>740558325This is yet another piece of media that doesn’t work as well anymore as the world has become much shittier. You’re bitching about a stable career? There are people far more talented than you working at Starbucks just trying to break into the industries they spent 8 years studying for. Boring but stable is a luxury.
>>740558325>talentdumbass, talent has nothing on being born into money, any talentless hack can "make it" with daddy’s money
Adachi is just a dipshit. He makes good points about the nature of the world, but he was doing very well for himself as a rookie cop in a place where jack shit happens, and could have easily worked his way up to a busier precinct if he wanted, he's competent. Dude took something as mundane and human as boredom and tried to gigafuck reality because he couldn't handle it. Then again, he wouldn't have been able to if Izanami wasn't an instigating cunt, so he's a victim in a way.
>>740566298How did he got his hands on reality changing powers?
>>740565674> game about psychologyYou mean Jung?Lmao, you can't be serious
>>740566493Izanami, same way the MC got his powers without a shadow awakening. She made everything worse, Adachi likely would have been just fired if he wasn't able to accidentally push Yamano into the TV. Having powers emboldened him.
>>740566921Why was Adachi chosen?
>>740566967Wasn't it just because he's not from Inaba?same for the other guy
>>740558657Nah, you are completely right. Von Neumann learned several languages and was tutored in science and math because his dad had a library and could afford it.
>>740567074Idk , why would him not being from Inaba give him powers?
>>740558325Ok but you gotta get over it.
>>740565747Eliza schlesinger is accussed of this and for being hot.
>>740566967She chose three ideologically distinct people and let them see who comes out on top. Of course, just like Yaldy, she says fuck it and curses humanity anyway. As it goes for any SMT or SMT adjacent game, gods are unreasonable cunts and need to be deported from reality.
>>740567321Facially mid, body is on par to current standards though.
>>740567351Fair enough, thanks. Yea, SmT always had crazy gods in the lore, even a fake anti christ. Appreciate the replies
>>740558325yeahnot an excuse to give up trying with what you have and living a life worth living
>>740567260I just remember somebody theorizing how Adachi, MC and Namatame arrived to inaba in close sucession and that probably was enough to catch the eye of IzanamiI don't remember clearly but it made sense to me when I read it
>>740559010Maruki's paradise falls apart when you see the game over cutscene that triggers if you fail his deadline. Everyone is just lying in bed all day in a dark room filled with cobwebs, rotting away while dreaming about a better world.
>>740567891What game is Maruki from?
>>740558325>talentwrong, it's really all about connections and nepotism.
Could he really be charged with only his admission but no physical evidence or plausible explanation for how he did it? He was just sitting in jail in Arena with nothing to pin on him IIRC. Then again Japanese courts have that whole 99% conviction rate the moment they think you're guilty
>>740560034How do I live forever with my richass high IQ roll?
>>740558325Perhaps, but that doesn't mean you should just give up and compromise yourself in comparison to them either.
>>740558325>now he will be called chüd or some different buzzword and people will fight over this shit for weeks after launch i am tired boss
>>740569254simply show your disagreement by not buying, Atlus admitted that actually hurts them
>>740558541>>Luck is also talent so that checks out>t.
>>740558481But you are proving him right, having the talent of determination is not something everyone is born with. It's not necessarily about creative talent.
P4's character resolutions are almost all about fitting into Japanese society with temperance.>character is miserable where they're at currently>realize they're miserable and attempt to seek a change, usually a radical one that goes against societal expectations>come back to their original station in life with a newfound mindset, realize they don't need to throw everything away to stay true to themselvesAdachi is the result of not hitting step three and having the means to continue on because you have these magical powers that allow you to live comfortably outside of the law. Those powers allow him to be an extremist, and he has no intention of compromising with society in the first place, so he goes wild. The reason his character works so well is that he truly doesn't realize how good he has it. He has stable employment and plenty of room to work his way up within reason, he just sees what the top tier of society has and can't get that out of his head and be happy with a mundane life. Namatame is the character who truly has it bad out of the three Izanami chose, and MC is a representation of being able to fit in and be happy anywhere. Adachi in relation to them is just... a black hole that will never be satisfied with anything.
>>740558325>irrefutableA talentless retard who knows the right people can get into careers that a talented person who knows no one important cannot.You see it all the time with nepotism, women, and Indians.
Talent mattered in the 1800s. Nowadays it's just lottery of birth.
>>740558493Unironically yes
>>740558325Who cares if he is right or not? The issue is he killed people. His view about talent doesn't have to be refuted because that was never the issue in the first place. >Hey you killed two people and manipulated events to potentially get more killed>YEAH BUT DID YOU KNOW SOME PEOPLE ARE MORE TALENTED THAN OTHERS?
>>740558325so how many va are they replacing this time to totally ruin the whole delivery
>>740573269yeah i don't understand why people are so focused on what he says. He killed two people and because of his little charade the protagonists adoptive family were both nearly killed. He just deserves an ass beating
>>740573642>yeah i don't understand why people are so focused on what he saysBecause the characters themselves are responding to his arguments. At least they do just eventually throw their hands up and beat his ass, but if that was their attempt to talk him down, fucking hell.
>>740573642It's because people understand his grief and people really like his character. Also like other anon said they respond. It's like being in an internet argument people get hooked on what's being said instead of looking at the bigger picture.The investigation team isn't thinking 100% straight either they already had to have Yu reel them back in when Namatame got owned and everyone was falling for the red herring chimping out on him. It should be expected they would be pissed as fuck to find the real killer spewing unrelated excuses.If investigation team was more level headed they would've outright went>no fuck you, you killed people, dumbassand still thrown hands anyway. I can't even call it a "talking down" of him, it was going to end in a fight either way. He was getting partially manipulated by the big eyeball so whether or not they said "correct" things doesn't matter. He would've thrown out a bitchfit boss fight either way.
>>740573569?????P4 had one of the most laughably atrocious dubs in modern gaming. All current VAs should be replaced, barred and put on trial from crimes against voice acting.
>>740558325Talent does nothing if you don't work hard to make the most of it.
>>740573991>If investigation team was more level headedThat's fair, I do forget sometimes that Yosuke was about to throw Namatame's ass into the TV without attempting to even ask him what his deal was. Guess the main characters are more of a range between impulsive and at least approaching the level of understanding the MC would have. Same thing kind of happened in P3, MC is the only one who "got it" in the end and everyone else was basically told by Pharos that they're just not there yet, but they'll get it eventually.
>>740574250Namatame kidnapped a loli, who the fuck would ask for his motivations really?
>>740558325What does this have to do with trying to bang and kill teenagers again?
>>740558325>Talented and gifted peoplecope harder, you just lazy loser.
>>740558453fpbp, talent/gift is meaningless in current year if you're filthy rich enough
>>740570347Japanese people are fucking losers man, peasant mentality right here
