>Sunday prime time>Free to play>New season>Zero threadsLet’s change thatAre you enjoying season 2 folks? So far I have not felt that the cradle has been overturned. It currently feels like it takes quite a lot of space to level up. Bungie shouldn't be needing this just to cater to the hardcore players that already have gold gear they can break down. It just makes it worse for the more casual players.
>*Diarrhea Sputtering*
So should I be running solo or not? Don't really want to fill in with two randoms. And if I go solo, should I make sure to only queue with other solos, or is that bitch mode?
>>740563538I have anti Marathon fatigue
>>740563538i genuinely believe these are botted numbers. They only increases them to 25k from 10k average to make it not look bad since they went free to play.
>>740563806eat shit retard
Destiny 2s final update is easily getting 150k lol Imagine killing your own captive paying fanbase of brand loyal single dads just to virtue signal that you hire troons and gay tyrone
>>740563538FPBP.
>>740563538Also this is more grim when you look at the past three days max CCU. They can only get 100 extra players Friday, Saturday and Today. If it's not being botted, that's pretty dire for a hold past today because it's going to start bleeding through the days until Thursday/end of F2P where it'll collapse back to 15,000-18,000.
>>740563538>>740564706[ARGUMENT #27, DELETE THIS LINE WHEN POSTING]I'm not sure how this season is seen as a “disaster" unless your expectations were running wild. Season 2 has renewed interest and increased sales, fans are happy about the new updates this season brings Bungie's big changes to widen the audience won't really happen until Season 5 where they explicitly talk about blending the ecosystem of PvP and PvE. So there's no large structural changes until that time, and everything else is going to be iterative or experimental with new content (maps, runners) along the way
It's a casual baby game now
this game is visually repulsive
G R I MMIM
i said it before, they are not making it to 2027. The copium huffing can only get you so far, the game is running on pure illusions. Not even Free to play can get people to play this dogshit. Sony is definitely reviewing their plan to completely dismember the studio right now.
>>740563063Matchmaking has felt real wonky so far, I don't think they fully fixed whatever was causing issues on day one.I also don't like Night Marsh very much, it's better than Day Marsh because of the towers and the cert boxes but the upper level of complex is really lame and yet seems to be all anyone cares about doing even if they don't really know how and can't find most of the panels.
>>740563063>AI image as OP
they can't even give this shit away for free lmaooooo
Trying it out during the free weekend, I've found that the game is really quite boring when you get past the initial contracts. I had the most fun running solo on the beginner perimeter match. There's so much going on during a firefight that I can't keep up.
>>740563538>27k playershow is this bad? i don't know the nu-/v/ meta
>>740568590it was being touted as something that was going to be bigger than arc raiders, and was even -marketed like it was the next halothis game basically needed like 270K CCU to even have a shot at being profitable
>>740563063Nothing meaningful has been added in terms of content or longevity. It's a fun but ultimately extremely shallow game with utterly nothing to work toward. The loot you get at the start is not worse than "purple" or "gold" stuff. There is no story. The missions are a meaningless grind and busy work. There are no stakes and no rewards.
>>740565734Sony are idiots for not essentially forcing them to make Destiny 3. People want it. It would justify the money that was spent on this studio. Marathon is a small side project that hasn't panned out and should be discarded as such.
>>740563063who up having a blast?perhaps even enjoying a little bit of a vibe shift?
>>740568590Temporary bump during Season 2 release + a Free to Play week. It was about to fall below 10k and probably will do so within a few weeks. Tremendously poor performance for a $300m-ish investment.
>>740563063>>740563538>>740564986It's fascinating that these threads are now made by people who don't like Marathon for the sole purpose of roleplaying as shills.
>>740569116>pitbull dadWhy can't people just have one or two bad qualities, why do they need to possess all of them?
>>740570363A nigger owning a shitbull is par for the course
>>740569116
>>740563063>"I tried it, it's just not for me"
>>740568590>$300 million (with an M) development>studio buyout with $3,700,000,000 Billion (with a B)>10,000 players after 80,000 launch>F2P "week"/extended a three days still can't push past 40,000 (day one with a server meltdown that extended) and>loses that 40,000 to where it's 20,000 barely breaking into 30,000 CCUIt's bad. You don't need to be an economist to know they aren't breaking even or making money on it. Every day the servers are on adds another $100+ to the costs.
>>740570049300 million is conservative, this shit has been in development for like 8 years
>>740571007Also before I forget:>Steam charts that everyone wanks over accounts for 70% of their sales.>Playstation, the company that bought them (Sony) only accounts for 30% of salesSo...>Steam charts are actaully HIGHLY accurate for the player counts for this title.10,000 and being generous and adding 3,000 from Sony for a grand total for 13,000 for a $3.7B bought studio that just released a $300M game three months ago is DIRE no matter how you try to spin it.
>>740563651isn't the solo mode literally acting like an npc to be a bitch scavenger then stab people in the back? why would you want to do that? isn't the stealth class bad enough?
>>740571131You are think of the Rook. He was fun in season 1, but currently, he is trapped in sponsored mode to serve as chaff for the player team, doomed to be killed at the only extraction point. But there is solo queue on every map, as in you and everyone else does in alone.
>>740571187more like strollersgame is slow as FUCK even with stamina upgrades
>>740568590It's intended to replace a game that was getting 100-150k players.
>can't make it free forever because nobody wants to buy a new melted crayon outfit for George Droid and Albino Lisa SimpsonThey really didn't think this over.
Predict monday's peak>28k
>>74057657427k
>>740573792I think it's more>can't make it free forever YETbecause people who paid will get mad, it will still hit F2P within the next half a year. They'd be insane not to(unless they just fold the studio). Unless the free week was meant to convince the higher ups in a >see if we make it free we will totally have huge numbersway, because it sure failed that.
>>740563063it's dead bro move on
>>>/vg/
>>740564039
>>740563063>Are you enjoying season 2 folks?yep, i like night marsh a lot
funny how this shit had more reviews than slay the spire 2 when it came outdespite having 5% of the playercountmakes a nigga ponderous
>>740564039No wonder you guys thought it would shut down in a month kek you are utterly retarded
>>740578480>why did a controversial game that was already playable before launch have more reviews? marge...
>>740563651you join the /vg/ discord or dads of marathon or the official discord lfg and find mates there.Marathon is a team game and you'll enjoy it a lot more with mates
>>740563651I would much rather run solo than deal with retarded teammates who cant stay alive and that steal all your loot.
>>740563538
>>740563538Too bad it WILL be here for years and you can do NOTHING about it. Kekw
>>740578812It'll just make it easier to keep laughing at it.
>>740578964>IT'S CONCORD 3 REEEEEE>well, it's actually funnier that it doesn't shut down and is doing well enough to get supported for yearsChudsissies... just how cucked are we?
>>740578675>Trio of sweats with purple in the first week and night vision raping green shield noobs with flashlightsWow very balanced and fair, so skillfull
>already dipping below the MONKEY againGRIM
>>740563063>>740563538Still topping the most looked up games on steamdb list you get when clicking on the search field.
>>740578812Yeah, like a vegetative coma patient, draining their family's funds as they keep fruitlessly trying to save him.
>>740578469the game looks so fucking bad
>>740578469The game looks so fucking good
>>740579276This right here is why the game is a flop. At this point I think there's some cultural shit going on in the industry with boomer execs and investors because the obsession with sw(e)at sports is just unnatural.>we are making a competitive shooter>oy vey sounds just like competitive wages excellent
>>740581117yeah because we're all looking at it to shit on it
>>740563063i tried it, it’s just… ok. i actually kinda like the artstyle and i’m a sucker for sci fi but it’s just alright. not worth $40. $20 is even a stretch. i’ll check it out again when it’s fully F2P and there’s more maps.
I hope everyone shilling extraction slop enjoys a very pleasant death
>>740581314Just keep the tab open lil bro. You are clearly wanking to it 24/7 anyway.
>>740568590Despite looking like an unfinished indie game this is AAA
>>740563538What happened to 100k weekend peak?
>>740579276i got that stuff by killing others>>740581249git gud>>740581352you wouldn't kill compiler lol
>>740581453I don't like keeping a lot of tabs open, I'll just check on it every few hours to have a giggle
blast status?
>>740582508not my fault the game is painfully mid
>>740582508>you wouldn't kill compiler lolNTA, but I'm 200 hours in and I also haven't killed a Compiler.
>>740582508Mindless drone response, might as well be chatgpt
>>740581249>At this point I think there's some cultural shit going on in the industry with boomer execs and investors because the obsession with sw(e)at sports is just unnatural.They are chasing that Starcraft 2/Dota 2/CSGO/Overwatch/Pubg/Fortnite/Apex/Valorant high, these 7 years defined the gaming landscape as one of the most profitable venues in digital entertainment, game companies started sponcoring multiple organizations specifically for scouting and raising regional talent into international champions, competetive scene saw a massive influx of old players who quit playing before in favor of a normal job, the generous monetary compensation for what previously was only known as a dumb hobby for nerds invited millions of normalfags into the fray as well, the streamer culture was also established as a foothold for funneling young kids and adults into the hobby and pro-scene, the rise of third party gambling sites and MTX rush, the normalization of skins and battlepasses in F2P models, the push for multimedia, all of it was done for 1 purpose: nourishing toxic postivity environment online where any negativity was treated as a personal insult, disregarding any criticism as work of the competitor's agent:>do not betray your cult(live service online game)>do not defy your religion(greedy game company)>spend any amount of money for the blessings(lootboxes)>recruit your friends and family members(word of mouth marketing)>shame the non-believers(brand loyalty)>seek favor with the priests(community managers and ecelebs)>place your trust on the grand plan(roadmap)>praise the Lord(company CEO)Such environment ensures total subjugation of free will and drives a man insane(see Destiny players)
Playing it during the free weekend and it's grown on me, though what I think of it is highly dependent on whether I do well or get fucked by sweats. May end up getting it. I need to do the pve mode some more I want to fuck Vandal
>only 7k-10k players more compared to previous monday before the new season ad f2p week.it's over
>>740583586>>740583645>>740584035cope
>>740587316>ratting noobs in the haulerYou sure showed them who's the boss, xister
I think I'll keep doing solo night marsh survival runs and get cheap purples.
>>740587502Why the fuck are campers called "rats" now? Ratting is laying low and avoiding fights and just looting and leaving, not camping.
>Saw its free and downloaded.>Liked the visuals and setup.>Go on a couple runs and get some stuff.>Realize my gameplay was boring ratting stuff from containers and killing bots and not having encountered another person.>UninstallThis is like the 4th extraction shooter I've tried and feel I would rather just play another shooter.Marathonanons what really draws you to this game?
>>740586367Just wait for the next season f2p weekif by then there's no pve mode don't waste your money and just jack off to vandal porn
>>740587997If you were on the tutorial version of Perimeter then it's normal not to run into anyone.Actually even normal Perimeter doesn't see much PvP
>>740587997I wish I still had the tutorial mode. Was the most fun I've had in marathon.
free to play for two weeks and it's already hitting sub 10k.
>>740587997based retard
>>740588846Dude, it is morning on a workday. You retarded or smth?
>>740569116I dont like giving conspiracy chuds the credit but it rly does seem like new things stopped beung made when they forced out all the white nerds and niw its judt a bunch of niggers and women feasting over the IP ewuivalents of a rotting carcass failing ti comprehend the base idea behind why the original worked and making shitty unfun sequels/remakes that somehiw cost 100000 billion more byt have negative artistic merit
>>740587502we were ambushed palMarathon is not a game for rats
>>740589002They don't care about the work, the art or the fun. Only want to appropriate the space for their own political objectives (communism and grooming kids into trans), even if leaving a million corpses behind them. Fuck them. The only way is to kick them out from the gaming scene, and from everywhere else, make it so hard that they cannot breathe and return to their closet.
The collapse tomorrow will be something to behold
>>740588997Don't tell me boss but... I'm having a blast!
So are the marasissys ready to get gaped and raped by moments of triumph?
70% of my enjoyment for the game comes from the soundtrack and sound design. Whoever did that is a good job.
>>740589594Dude I wish I could live in this parallel reality where communism is pushed in videogames.
>Be lvl.14 babby Destroyer doing my basic bitch solo quests>Downtime hits and lower player count means being grouped with other regions>Way more rats>I down them because they seem pretty stupid and i dont think there are many solo destroyer mains so they can't deal with the rockets or shield in open areas near xfils they camp>The moment they realise they can't one shot over proxy chat an indian or eastern european accent goes "n-nooo my friend please, please forgive, no my friend no kill" then when you down them "FOCKING BITCH-BASTARD, I FIND YOU AN FOCKIN KILL YO-" every timeI'm not shocked rats tend to be from those parts of the world, just why they always go "no my friend pls stahp" when they start shit every time.
>>740592093I wish I heard anyone talking in this game. Like 14-15hrs through the free week so far and basically I think I saw one person's mic activate. I'm starting to think I have a setting off somewhere. One other person using text chat either.
>>740582472https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GM-e46xdcUo
>>740592452I got called a faggot when i downed an assassin camping a door by a open vent the other day like the good old days of halo 3. Also did a cheeky little rook run on Narsh and the campest british man at exfil downs me but doesnt kill going "sowwy my fwiend i must disarm yoo"
>>740587316>disconnected when not bugStill not fixed. Very annoying.
>>740592452Are you just playing solos? Trios have people talking all the time.I've gotten a lot of rooks to join us in prox chat, it's fun
>>740595647Trios yeah. Probably because I'm in Europe servers.
>>740563651The game design heavily favors premade 3. If you only wanted solo play, you wasted your money.
>>740568590Game is AAAA in budget, and looking at destiny, it's already below the potential Kill line for sony.
>>740595740In Europe as well and I get normal, English speaking people in about half my games. I run into a lot of Frenchmen for some reason, I don't know why it's popular there.
bungie needs to commission more fanart for their quite literally soulless characters
>still 3 days left of f2pi am forgotted
>>740597172Yes they need to triple down on this money pit shit show. Bleed Sony dry.
>>740589728not tomorrow, got extended unitl thursday. which is better because destiny releases its final update so marathon will get mogged one last time by destiny.
>>740597791Destiny is at about 30 on rev chart, Marathon at 60. The shills are trying incredibly shitty ironic threads out of desperaton.Marathon is fucking losing hard to THIS:
>>740592452Same. EU solo and I think I've heard only one guy talk so far.
>>740598080>rev chartReview chart?
>>740590049Marathon already got raped a few times over the weekend with Destiny 2 having higher Steam CCUs, even though Steam isn't D2's lead platform lmaooo
>>740597172Honestly I love the fact that the shells are basically disposable bodies remote controlled by disembodied minds, making 'death' an inconvenience at most. Really works for my fetish. Love reading the lore on them in the codex as well.
>>740599131>Really works for my fetish. Love reading the lore on them in the codex as well.Opinions on the origin of Thief's appearance?
>>740598705revenuedestiny 2 is bringing in more money than marathon
>>7405765741k Bob!
>>740599623Destiny 2 has been operating at a loss for over a year actually Schrier confirmed it and that rat knows his sources. Marathon aint making money either, it needs a stable 30k and laying off half its team to turn a profit but Its failures dont mean Destiny is anything but a money furnace.
>>740599840>it needs a stable 30koh, brother...
>>740563063>Decide to download it for the free weekend>Launch it, it straight up tells me it's going to install kernel level spyware>Nuke it from my PC and never look backDaily reminder that you won't need spyware if you just let the community host and self moderate serversDaily reminder that they don't do it specifically so that they can install spyware and farm data to sell to data brokers
>>740599956>wtf you didn't keep up with the discord's latest drama?>meme addons, shitty balance changes, arbitrary bullshit, powertripping mods, OP bullshit for paid roles or friends of the owner "community servers" fucking suck
>>740590049Yes Marachads are ready to get "raped" by Destinycucks leaking over their last update ever. Buying silver is welcome btw. The more money for future Bungie the better.
>>740600042It worked just fine for two decades of gaming, don't project your faggy little experiences of GTA RP and Minecraft onto everything else lil zoomie
>>740599956Just buy a dedicated gaming PC what's the problem
>>740600328>It worked just fine for two decades of gamingOne of the most common complaints for multiplayer games, especially console shooters, was demanding dedicated servers instead of p2p.
>>740570049I thought it was supposed to peak below 10k in May?
>>740599840>Destiny 2 has been operating at a loss for over a yearyea but that's like calling water wet or saying Rockstar is operating at a loss, no shit but once their new games come out it'll recoup it (only destiny not bungie as a whole)
>>740563651Solo play is the only real way to play the game
>>740599956>Community servers for an extraction shooterNormally, when people type "lol" or "lmao", they barely move a facial muscle IRL. But the premise of your post genuinely made me laugh.lol
>>740600657perhaps extraction shooter wasn't the best choice eitherwho knew
>>740599309I haven't got to that yet, I've mostly been meaning Vandal. I'll play some thief tonight and see what I can find out from the codex.I do like the idea that the pseudo-personality that the Vandal has is just synthesized from a bunch of effectively punk girls and revolutionary types. Honestly I just need her to squeeze my head between her thighs
>>740600782Please explain your logic here.
>>740563063>Free to play>No one wants to playKekkaroo
>George Droid>Loony troonsFucking protogens are way cooler than this shit and toaster arena has a modular character creator for free.
>>740599840>Marathon needs a stable 30kMarathon probably needs 300k for half a year to make back the few hundred mil they spent making it. Only after that break even point could 30k maybe be ok, but then only if they lay off most of Bungie. Remember anon, Marathon has 300 devs working on it, and those devs cost Bungie $4-5m a month in salaries alone.
>>740601076For context, this is what that anon prefers.
>>740599956>Launch it, it straight up tells me it's going to install kernel level spywareworse yet for people that installed it you have to go in to the command line to kill the service then delete the folder, it doesn't get removed when you uninstall the game
>>740601080Its been confirmed Sony put most of the money in for development and marketing but stopped entirely since and are unwilling to spend any more on it. They specifically need to lay off 200 people from the team and hit a stable peak of 30k players and then current sales can offset losses. Wether it will or not who knows but its not going to PS+ any time soon.
>>740601158I do. It actual has modular robots unlike whatever the fuck this dad gamer horse shit is
>>740601223Bungie is still in the red at least $300m on Marathon, if not more. They need to recoup those costs to break even, and only after that can they begin trying to make a profit. Even if Bungie fired 99% of their people and went down to 10 people chained to their desks and told to keep Marathon active, there's no ignoring the large pit they're sitting in.
>>740601223>Its been confirmed Sony put most of the money in for development and marketing but stopped entirely since and are unwilling to spend any more on it.Source?
>>740601223how can 30k peaks sustain a dev team of 400 people?
>>740563063>zero threadsThat’s for a reason OP, you see, you have utterly dogshit taste. Maraflop fucking blows
>>740600804Thief is interesting in being the only one based on a real person, but without her consent. Does this count as rape?
I wouldn't play Marathon even if you paid me
>>740601403Anon, that is an obviously ironic post. This is the 3rd time that AI generated image is used in an OP. No one who actually likes the game would do that. And a shill would just get something official.
>>740601495I don't think it's rape, rape is a specific thing, but it IS an issue that I think is interesting. It reminds me of this short storyhttps://qntm.org/mmacevedoBasically of the first ever uploaded mental image, the implications of said technology and the horrors caused by itThat said, Thief is clearly a separate entity to the original person whose likeness it's based off.
>>740601814That's a classic one. I remember a website that had this story presented as an actual wikipedia page, with images and formatting and hyperlinks, but can't remember it.
Destiny 3 fucking NEVERHAHAHAHA
>>740600916Marathon's strength has always been its story and worldbuilding. In the originals the gameplay was merely passable, but it served as an ok vessel to carry you from terminal to terminal.Then they made Halo, which frankly retreads a lot of the same concepts and symbolism as Marathon to the point where you could almost call it the same series, but through a much better lens of storytelling (cutscenes and dialogue weaved into action gameplay) and people loved the game for it.Nu-Marathon meanwhile focuses on hyper-competetive niche sweaty genre, where the storytelling devolves into reading codex entries (going backwards) and any sort of environmental storytelling falls flat simply because you don't have time to appreciate and think about the scenery since you need to be alert - after all, a camper with a shotgun could be hiding behind any corner. I frankly hate Bungie's obsession of storytelling through live service games, it's the worst shit ever and they consider it peak of the medium.>>740601495It's basically an equivalent of sloppers making deepfake models of celebrities today. So probably giga illegal by the time cybernetics evolve this far in the Marathon universe.
>>740563063What little I've played I've enjoyed. IPretty much got filtered by the difficulty so I only jump in in occasionally. Not really much point me trying to play seriously when I'm useless. Keyboard and mouse support for ps5 would somewhat cure my inferiority, but the reality is the people who play this game are just rather good at it and when the entire scenario revolves around ambush tactics chumps like me don't stand a chance.
>>740601369Likely referring to a random ass guy saying at Square Enix that Sony "gave up on Marathon" and "didn't advertise the game enough".>>740601223>Its been confirmed Sony put most of the money in for development and marketing but stopped entirely since and are unwilling to spend any more on it.Don't look up the latest state of play.
>>740602007>Marathon is flopping>Marathon fans can only laugh at how there's no Destiny 3This is like Marathon and Destiny are passengers on a Bungie Airlines flight, and the plane starts to crash. They both watch Sony take the only parachute and jump out, leaving Bungie in the pilot's cabin alone. Marathon then turns to Bungie and says 'Haha, you're going to die! AHAHAH' while either ignoring or accepting that he's dying too.It's so strange to me, this mindset.
>>740602445I'm sure that State of Play trailer was finished before Marathon even launched, just like seasons 2 and 3.
>>740602083While I see where you are coming from, this does not flow from my post.
I bought the deluxe psn version for 14 bucks a week ago. I just tried to fire it up and I only have the trial wtf
ol' Petey is somewhere on a tropical island relaxing on a beach reading these Marathon threads while getting a blowjob from shemale hookers.
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>>740602925>at a mitigated priceYou don't hate marketers enough.
>>740602810Nah, he's polishing his classic cars. Although I guess he could get a blowjob from shemale hookers while doing that too.
>>740602671my logic chain was:We wouldn't need invasive anticheat if the game allowed user-hosted and curated servers -> we can't have user-hosted and curated servers because bungie decided to make the game an always online extraction shooter -> extraction shooter was a poor choiceThat was the original postWhat I implied is that we wouldn't be in this mess if they instead chose to do a single-player campaign with normal human being storytelling instead of live service dripfeed, and then in addition to that we could have multiplayer (you know, like in that other game that took the world by storm) that could then allow for user-hosted dedicated servers, and there would be much less of a need for gay anticheats
>>740602007Yup, Bungie is completely cooked
>>740563651Do NOT play this game solo. It's not worth it. Best strat is to be a rat crouch walking everywhere as an assassin or Recon. Do NOT play with randoms. They fucking suck. You're just donating loot to other teams. This game is made for premade 3 stacks on Discord. Go find a discord group or uninstall.
>>740603153I see. First of all,>user-hosted and curated serversThere is no universe where this happens. The only way Marathon was feasibly going to get revived was either as a singleplayer remake or as a live service game (extraction shooter or otherwise). And even me bringing up singleplayer is a stretch. Second,>live service dripfeedI'm fine with this on a conceptual level. With this model, I buy a game once, and I can come back to it everyone once in a while when it gets an expansion, instead of going through everything there will ever be to it right away. But with Marathon, I'm becoming dubious of this since season 2 added jack shit to the story. This is a fair criticism you've brought up.
>>740603784I've got 60 hours solo and never had any trouble.
>>740597320What's funny is that TODAY was going to be the last 24 hours. It would've ended Tuesday but they extended after the servers melted down thinking it was interest. lmao.
>>740598080BASED image.
>>740570281you mean as opposed to market firm ad shill threads? we know who you are faggot
>>740600328have you played cod 4 on PC in the past decade anon? community servers are fucking terrible
[Buy a fucking ad snoy]
>>740603082Whose to say he isn't getting those shemale hookers to wash and wax his cars before he gets a blowie on them (ruining the wax job)?
>>740603949Personally, I think Sony extended the free week to Thursday to make the Destiny 2 numbers less embarrassing for Marathon when the last Destiny patch lands tomorrow.Imagine how fucking bad it would look if Destiny 2 had 100k or more while non-F2P Marathon was struggling to get 10k. Not that 15-20k is much better LMAO
>>740603784Lies.>Do NOT play this game solo.I've played nothing but solo so far in season 2.>Best strat is to be a rat crouch walking everywhere as an assassin or Recon.Lol. You can hear an Assassin go invisible from a mile away.>Do NOT play with randoms. They fucking suck. You're just donating loot to other teams.Most people play with randoms, so your chances are roughly equal on average.
>>740603884That's cool. Have you done all 6 vaults and killed Compiler solo? Or are you soloing for 60 hours to make your vault look nice and never do end game content? End of the day. You're going to need a 3 stack to do the vaults of Cyro Archive or you're just capped at Outpost.
>>740563063After $250 million, we're only getting Dire Marsh but dark...Like the game is fun and all, but wtf did they spaff all that dosh on???
>>740563651Everyone telling you not to play is lying to your fucking faceJust play solo
>>740602925Oh okay I guess
>>740604363$4 billion
>>740577770Thing is right, I don't even think them getting f2p players would even help the financial loss that this game bombed on launch...
>>740604314I queued with randoms for cryo. It's a shitty and pointless map that offers nothing new over the rest.
okay, so how long until sony stops throwing money into a fire pit?
What's even funnier is how unbelievably dogshit the cosmetics are on no planet can they even pretend that's picking up some slack
>>740604701The new ones are good.
>>740563063Something they didn't think about is that a dark as fuck expansion doesn't stream well. Rip.
>>740597172They need to fire their art teams and hire the best fanartists to control art direction. Tell them to go crazy and ignore Reddit and Resetera.It won't happen because Sony is a part of the Hollywood machine and political capital matters more than talent and willingness to cater to the customer though.
>>740604472Incl Snoy buying out bungie and paying for all their staff on top...Lol what a disaster,Shame, bungie used to be a good dev team until total foid takeover of the og staff...
well at least they paid off the ad but it didn't do a dent on that 250mil dev cost
>>740604738>>740604701>"So uhhhh, you got RED and uhhh you also got Piper Perry's Asshole Pink"
Is there any point in not running free kits if all you have are greens?
>>740604543Because you're playing with randoms. You literally cannot delve beyond showing up, collecting access lvl 3 then leaving. It's a shit map to you because you literally have no one to play with consistently. This is like talking shit on Outpost and you haven't been inside pinwheel. There's a whole other side of the map you haven't seen because you're solo. That's why you shouldn't play this game solo.
>>740604980There's no point in running anything but free kits period. There is absolutely no difference between a free grey gun and a """legendary""". Attachments make no real difference.
>>740604738hell fucking noI've been playing for like two months, and I still haven't given them a single cent for any MTXAll of their cosmetics and battle passes are just straight-up garbage. It's like they don't want to make money. The new ones are not really any betterThere's a reason fucking Destiny 2 is beating it revenue-wise on Steam
>>740605031Literally none of this is true. Fucking embarrassing cope post.
>>740604980Backpack, shields, consumables, weapons, ammo, cores, and implants.
>>740605143All easily and quickly scavenged
>>740605181Not at all. You can't consistently find shields and backpacks.
>>740604835>Mexglad people are realizing how much of a shithole Mexico truly is now that the FIFA World Cup is taking place thereGlad to see spics being the world's laughing stock
>>740605053>Attachments make no difference >The attachments give +50% ammo and shield recharge in hit and lingering target marks giving you free wall hacks Hi there. It seems like you have not played the game and are parroting some talking points of a bait streamer. You are too brown for this site. Please go back to the steam forums.
>>740605245>realizingI thought that was a given, it's a 3rd world country for a reason.
>>740605096>I've been playing for like two months, and I still haven't given them a single cent for any MTXMe neither.>The new ones are not really any betterPic related is a lot better than the recolors that were previously in the shop.
>>740605143Of these only shields matter as far as I can tell and not by much.
>>740589002Learn to write retard.
>>740605219False. Both easily found. Especially shields they are extremely common.
>>740605031>I am bad at the game, therefore this game is literally impossible for everyoneAnon really thinks he lives in a simulation
>>740605430Anon is right, there is no difference and attachments don't really change a gun's performance or usefulness. You're an idiot.
GUH
>>740605823I sure hope the numbers won't get worse for Marathon tomorrow when D2's big final patch launches. lol
>>740605716>Having an extra shot on the shotgun does not change the guns performance Never go full retard...fuck off back to the steam forums
>>740604980Mostly just having a backpack and healing items that don't make you feel like it's faster to just die and requeue than use them to get back to full. Some guns are also massively improved with even just one green mod like machine guns with a shield or energy guns with a suppressor
Marathon is already failing and seems destined to be shutdown on its own merit I don't understand why so many people go out of their way to pretend the situation is even worse than it already is in reality
>>740606082Nope. My board, you leave retard faggot.
>>740563538Steam chart posting should get your posting device bricked.
>>740606304Wanting to hide data from consumers should get your brain bricked. Stop being such a brainless cocksucker, anon.
>>740606304>Saar, this game is shutting down for the 4th month in a row saar, look!
>>740605053This anon gets it. Anybody who thinks otherwise is a child who hasn't played Tarkov. Marathon is piss easy and none of the "good loot" is better than the default.
>>740600492Noone complained about this zoomie go fuck yourself with your fabricated historical revisionism >>740600657Your pixels are worthless retard, games are supposed to be fun not replacements for real life achievements
>>740606304>posting cold, hard, undeniable truth should have you lobotomizedkys
>>740563063these dog companies will have to learn the hard way that designers need to be on a TIGHT leash. Nobody likes this trash design or font, I shouldn't even post this because I want them to suffer more, they don't deserve this information.
>>740607039I think the games aesthetic design is awesomeI think it's choice of genre, live service slop, aim assist cross play dogshit and kernel level spyware make it irredeemable despite it's great design
>>740568808The most truthful and accurate post in the thread. This is why the game failed.
>>740607039The fuck is that image?
>>740581002Monkey was actually a good game.
>>740607039>designers need to be on a TIGHT leash.No, what needs to happen is that the malicious retard cabal needs to be broken up and competent, humble people who understand the customer need to be in charge. If you have to be kept on a TIGHT leash like some kind of trainee, you shouldn't be placed into a position where you're making important decisions.If you have to tard wrangle people who have a title like "[x] director", it's just a matter of time until they take over and your company is no longer fit for purpose.
>>740596830>you wasted your money.Nigger it's free week.Anybody wondering about the game should install it and try it. Don't ask for opinions from the sort of retards who bought online-only Bungieshit at launch.
>>740596830The game literally has solo only matches if you queue solo you dumbass.
i'm blasting rn dont know about you haters
>>740608050>install and try it, it's freeYeah, but you still open your PC's asshole to BattleEye, and you have to manually remove it after you're done with the game.But if you're on consoles, sure, try it I guess.
Tried it for free and it...okay i guess. Very aesthetic, much colours. But i kinda don't see the point of grinding endlessly in this extraction shit, maybe if they put it on 50% or sale and add solo mode i'd play it for a bit but otherwise i don't feel it. >>740608746isnt that only on newbie map? Thats what i assumed, and the rest is just "everyone in" like Hunt:whateverthenewnameis.
>>740608903No
>>740605823OHNONONONONONONO
>>740609048Just wait till tomorrow lolAbout to be utterly anally devastated by D2, the game with a cultist buck broken audiance they could just milk forever that they dropped for this garbage
>>740610859It's going to be funny when the servers crash.
There has been too much violence, too much pain. None here are without sin, but I have an honorable compromise. Just walk away. Leave the board, the game, the steam chart, and the whole 4chan, and I spare your lives. Just walk away. I will give you safe passage to Reddit . Just walk away and there will be an end to the horror. I await your answer. You have one full day to decide
>>740611105What's the over/under on Sony crashing the Destiny 2 servers out of spite to lessen the embarrassment Marathon undergoes?
>>740564986>and increased salesHow? Is free
>>740611415It will crash because they won't have the capacity because it's fucking expensive to leave serve racks on with 0 players using them and it takes several hours to turn them back on
>>740604980do one (1) survival night marsh run and leave with blues and purples?
>>740611724If they crash from actual technical or overload failure, I hope Sony fires Bungie's entire network team. Both the D2 patch and the Marathon S2/F2P weekend have been known months in advance. Not having the infrastructure ready is like being a catering company for a wedding and showing up with half the food you needed to bring.
>>740606248calm down ranjeesh
>>740611415If they go out and stay out for 8+ hours than it's 100% intentional.
>>740613952If it's just D2 going down, I'll agree. If it's both, it's probably incompetence.
>>740611667You could get the deluxe edition for $14 this Friday on PS5It got a massive amount of sales, it was top 1 above Wolverine
>>740614127>It was $14Which you cannot redeem as it was an error and not the base game LAMO Sony said fuck you
>>740587684I haven't played at all the first week, what's the trick to doing that solo if I might ask? Seems like there's not enough time to get much, and the anomaly tumors are huge ammo sinks. Is complex hard to crack?
>>740599840Marathon, has as much staff and even lower revenue as d2. >>740601223>stable 30kThere's no way in hell they can sustain 200 fucking people on 30k, there's no way they can retain 30k people, and their rev per person has been absolutely terrible. Who the fuck is even saying this?>>740602519The kurpa hosk fuckers are still making shit threads based on tweets. >>740613374
>>740615948Those shameless 'hello fellow anons, Marathon(TM) player here. Is anyone else playing (product) like I am?' posts stand out and either die from disinterest or devolve into shitposting as anons pile in to make fun of it.
i just realized, this game is literally Apex Legends>attempted revival of a dead franchise but in a new popular-but-dying genre and with a cartoonish neony aestheticto make things righter it should have been F2P from the get-go, the skins would sell in millions
Going to be so funny when this game is dipping below 10k again in a month lmfao.
>>740616332Which franchise was Apex Legends reviving?
>>740616713titanfall, duh! it has, like, the same weapon models and stuff...
>i just realized, this game is literally Apex LegendsI was thinking that a lot but only because the abilities, itemization and movement are straight up copy pasted. Not to mention the game was originally going to be trio only.
how do i get my weaveworms to make my shell's dick bigger? it's too small now
I'm having a blast. Downed this faggot with some crazy equipment with just the starting MIDA kit, then lost it all the next mission because I got sniped :(
>>740602519I don't think that this is fully accurate. Many changes in season 2 were in response to player feedback, like making progression less grindy, reworking the implants, and redesigning factions trees and the armory. But content wise, yes, most likely.
>>740617051I don't think these specific shells should even have any genitals at all
>>740617258Most of the changes you mentioned are simple things that are just numbers in a spreadsheet or database somewhere. The faction trees and armory stuff is probably the hardest since there's UI stuff I bet.The only really new and unplanned content they've been doing is all of the 'experiments' like duos, limited PVE, and other stuff that's them panicking to try to save the game. And I think the trailer from SOP was just showing off the new character and new map, which would have both been made a while ago. And those trailers also take a few weeks at least to make, probably a month.
>>740616623Why month? In a few days, right after free week ends
>>740617471>Most of the changes you mentioned are simple things that are just numbers in a spreadsheet or database somewhere.Yes and no. It's probably not hard to roll out, but actually (re)designing progression is not trivial.>And I think the trailer from SOP was just showing off the new character and new map, which would have both been made a while ago. And those trailers also take a few weeks at least to make, probably a month.The SOP trailer was cut up gameplay footage. That's easy. It's the cinematics that take time. We still don't have 2 out of 8 shell cinematics, Vandal and Sentinel.
AYO MARATHON NEEDS MO MONEY FOR DEM PRORAMZ 'N SHIET
>>740617804Redesigning progression is mostly math you don't need to do in the game. Just a bunch of designers locked in a room doing models in Excel. The real bitch there is testing them, which would by all rights be a multi week affair, but since it's clear they're just putting stuff in the game and doing kneejerk fixes. Speed over certainty is better for them in this case, since the game could be literally empty in a few months.
>>740581117Irrelevant metric.
>>740618360>speed over certainty is better for them in this case, since the game could be literally empty in a few monthsWell, I have some bad news for Bungie, they have royally fucked up already, because they basically mitigated the effects of the three months wipe>bungie dumbfucks thought that the light pvp mode on the free week would totally make good impressions on the players, instead they got full gold/purple kitted giganigga rape machines>sweats and streamers have access to uncontested gold loot because rooks didn't even spawn in sponsored Narsh lmao>newbs getting absolutely fucking confused by this game mode because it's fucking dark and can't explore properly, resulting in frequent deaths from bots >shit ton of people recieved multiple blue/purple server d/c apology kits plus kits from the previous season on top of it>newbs pick sentinel as their first runner because it's objectively coolest looking shell in the game and is heavily featured in the promos, get bodied in the open because Sentinel is designed for trios and cryo, not for solo perimeter or narsh>every player from the previous season has optimized their farming routes and has put hundreds of hours in Assassin/Thief/Destroyer, meaning every new player will have to face that shit regularly once the free week is overBungie fumbled pretty hard this time around ngl
>>740617258The problem is that everything they changed are things that never should have been a problem to begin with. Anyone that plays games could sit there and in a single workday give a rundown on where the pain points are, what’s counter intuitive, where all the problems are. It all stands out to players within their first interactions with the UI. It’s a fucking embarrassment that it even released in the state it did and they still haven’t come up with a solid solution>just duplicate every single item in the armory and move it the side for barters>whoops it’s fucking uglyThey still can’t figure out how to make map, fill, and team size selection stick, defaulting itself after every single game
>>740620557Thanks for the analysis, anon. Is Nightmarsh the only map that does the PVP Lite thing?And the sweats figured out that they can use the PVP Lite thing themselves to farm the fuck out of gear?I think what you're describing is exactly the risk of going fast with something economy related, but I get why they had to do it. If there was nothing at all PVE in Season 2's launch, it'd be even worse than this broken PVE stuff.The biggest problem they have is they can't get new players in, and no new players means no new people spending money, which means it's just the same miserable echo chamber of sweats that it was at the end of season 1.I don't think there was any easy way to do this, desu.
>>740620557>meaning every new player will have to face that shit regularly once the free week is overnew players have to face it now, there aren't enough people playing to support newb only matches and no one wants to play the forced 18minute game after trying it once
>>740565403This.I don't care about anything they do. The game is ugly and that invalidates it entirely.
For a game that fancies itself pvp only I find the pvp part incredibly dull and entirely decided by luck. No wonder it's a flop.
>>740621959wow this is totally the comment of a player that is not bad at the game at all!
>>740621959yeah i'm sure you were losing because of luck lol
>>740565403Theres not a single clip, screenshot, streamer showcase, or official art style that made me go "wow, that looks cool". Its like a fucking high school art kid saw someone else's edgy art, made a worse copy of it, then touted it as their own. Its fucking repulsive
>>740587997Literally thats what everyone extraction shooter is, just with a different coat of paint. Extraction shooter suck unless you enjoy the niche gameplay of potentially loosing everything or potentially getting something and losing it later
>>740621959So, how many times did you win then? I assume it has to be 50-50 chance of luck then right since its man vs man? Or how is the game played?
>>740621959You are correct. It's far more fun to just fight the hordes of robots. The combat is always decided by who fires first and the loot is meaningless so there are stakes rewards from engaging in PvP to begin with.
>>740622908No stakes*This game is a waste of time. I've killed the vast majority of other players I've come up against and the loot is never worth the hassle.
>>740622000wow this is totally the comment of an Indian ESL shill that is not bad at English at all
>>740623091>>740623138git gud
>>740564986>I'm not sure how this season is seen as a “disaster" unless your expectations were running wild.Every day Marathon is up and running, Sony loses money. That is a literal disaster.
>>740623284Yet Sony is more profitable than ever, they will be fineThey know it’s a slow but steady path to success, they are in for the long haul
>>740622851Depends on whether I was doing quests/looting or just going sponsored kit and killing people. The former is absolute rng whether you pull it off or not, the latter gets boring real fast.
>>740623358Are you saying Sony bought Bungie for 3.7 B and allowed 8 years to be spent on Marathon knowing it would burn 10k USD per day?
>>740623421So there's no luck, gotcha.
>>740623358>Sony is more profitable than everYou know they closed two studios this year and killed a major franchise at Bungie, right?
>>740623358>we made money by price-gouging our hardware and increasing monthly prices for PSN!>what, games? We make games? If Xbox didnt literally shoot itself in the foot and hang itself from a tree, Playstation would probably be in the red. Literally pulled a Steam and just let its competition ruin itself
>>740623358>they are in for the long haulJust like Valve was with Artifact lmao
NO PLEASE ITS SO GOOD JUST TEN MORE HOURS BRO PLEASE
>>740624261artifact, for better or worse, is still playablewill marathon be in a year or two?
>>740624362The sum total of all of Sony and Bungie's marketing for Marathon's season season, probably several million dollars at least, bought it an amazing..Three days.Three days where it outdrew Destiny 2, the game they decided to kill to prioritize Marathon.I should have been a business executive. You can be a literal retard and still get that job.
>>740624362Thread theme for the patch drop and complete humiliation of bungie in 12 hours https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOfxxhn-U8A
>>740622595It looks like a shoe company collab nobody asked for. Everything has that overdesigned neon techwear slop where you can't tell what anything is supposed to be at a glance, but the art director clearly thought "bold colors" was a personality. Old Marathon had more identity with like 12 pixels and a terminal screen.
>>740623091>loot is never worth the hasslePretty much. To make matters the UI makes sure you must rebuild your gear piece by piece in the most excruciating way possible every single match.
>>740623432Yeah, they actually know about finances not like these armchair wannabe chud expertsEven if they may be losing money right now (they aren’t) they know that Marathon will start making profits soon, you just can’t launch such an ambitious and gigantic project and expect it to make its money on the first day, no one does thatThat’s why they are long term INVESTMENTS, they are supposed to be years long
>>740625419>they might be losing money right now (they aren't)They absolutely are, what are you talking about? The 400 devs at Bungie attached to Marathon cost $3-5m a month. Marathon isn't making that much and is nowhere near recouping its original budget.>you can't launch such an enormous and gigantic projectOh, you're just shitposting. Carry on.
>>740563063I don't see Marathon/Bungie surviving unless they basically rework Marathon entirely. Its way, way too niche of a game for a studio the size of Bungie. WAY too hardcore, confusing for new players, and punishing for people who don't have 10k hours on CS, Apex, or one of the other skill-based FPS shooters on the market. Its not only Marathon though, the entire extraction shooter fad is starting to die out slowly.
>>740626560ok nigger go play your gacha
>>740606304Pin Steam Chart threads.
A requiem for a bungle.
>>740626560>rework Marathon entirelyIf Sony isn't going to fund a new Destiny, why the hell would they drop a few hundred million more in trying to relaunch Marathon, where it already flopped once and has negative brand associations?
>>740563063Fuck im enjoying this season so much. I hope they keep survival and maybe have it rotate maps. Got myself the $10 fun police bundle and got the premium pass with the lux. Good deal. I was gonna get the premium pass anyways, so might as well get the bundle. The recon skin is pretty sleek.
>>740626560>the entire extraction shooter fad is starting...Starting?It's been dead since Tarkov was "hot." It's NOT a popular genre no matter how much the AAA industry tries to force meme it.
>>740627548>It's not popular. The last decade has been NOTHING but battle royale/extraction garbage and every single one has failed vs fortnite and tarkov except arc raiders and deltaAnd delta is a Chinese so made game so Chinese flock to it for social score
>>740627445I agree, Anonymous! This new season is a total blast Bungie really outdid themselves this time.
>>740627694>but battle royale/extraction garbageBattle Royale, yes.Extraction, no.BR was hot. Extraction wasn't.That's my entire point: They've tried to force Extraction Shooters to be "hot" after Battle Royal and they always crash and burn/flop on their face.THE ONLY non-Tarkov Extraction Shooter that is popular/has players is "DMZ" in Call of Duty and that's because of the power of the CoD IP/brand.Battlefields? Flopped so fast they threw in the towel to not waste development time after two weeks from BF2042's launch.(Being fair to BF though: The Battle Royales have flopped twice now. EA just needs to get a brain [morans!] and understand Battlefield players want BATTLEFIELD, not tacked on modes)
CyAc bros report in
>>740626869You niggas will get tired eventually, you dont got the resolve to keep hating this game forever. Fallout 76 survived a much stronger hate campaign, and that game was actual ass. Marathon is sublime.
>>740628097>Marathon is sublimeThis is weak bait.
>>740628202Post playtime pussy, you wont.
so what have I missed now that it's season 2? I played for a few weeks and my league addiction kicked in
>>740624261>they are in for the long haul>but this other studio's other gameGreat point. I yield.
>>740626757I enjoy extraction shooters but if you can't see the obvious fucking problem with this genre (full loot hardcore pvp is a very very niche audience) then I don't know what to tell you. Its a great game in a genre that doesn't have mass appeal.
>>740628252It's 0, because I don't need to play this trash to know I don't like the art style or extraction shooters with forced PVP. And I've played Destiny 2 anyway, and it's the same engine, so the gunplay is going to be similar, even if they lower the TTK.>>740628323There's a new map that's just night time mode, a PVE with 'lite' PVP mode they added in a panic, and uh.. there's more cheaters right now because the game is F2P until the 11th.>>740628361Concord and Highguard both had yearlong seasonal roadmaps. Roadmaps have never been a guarantee of a game surviving.
>when not being paid, streamers would rather play Tarkov's icebreaker update over freshly wiped Marathonlmao, all the catering to streamers and none of the big ones have checked out S2 yet, not even top shill Shroud. Shroud is busy playing PoE.
>>740628469>B-but these other gamesKeep em coming lad, Marathon is backed up by Sony and Bungie, isn’t going anywhere
>>740624261Sony screwed over the Destiny fanbase...
>>740628567>it's backed up by Sony and BungieIrrelevant. Sony closed two studios in the last six months and just killed Destiny 2. Sony could close the entire studio tomorrow if they wanted to.
>>740628469>hasn’t played it>has a strong negative opinionDamn, i wonder who i should trust… this retard, or the anon whos got 300hrs that seems to be enjoying himself, hmm…
>>740628653to me Bungie/Sony giving up on Destiny is just so bizarre. They fucked up big time with Destiny because they siphoned so much of the money into Marathon's development instead of keeping it in Destiny. But Destiny has way, way more appeal than Marathon does (I believe Destiny is actually insanely popular on Console whereas Marathon isn't at all, likely because there are so few 'MMO' options on console). This whole ending development for Destiny just strikes me as a huge mistake.
>>740628469>but Highguard and Concord...To be fair, at least Concord was indeed a Sony product.It also flopped so horribly that they decided to announce shutdown in a week. The decision itself came even shorter than that.I mean, we have only done 3 full months of "but Highguard and Concord...", keep it going.
>>740628778>They fucked up big time with Destiny because they siphoned so much of the money into Marathon's development instead of keeping it in Destiny.shut up retard, Destishit 2 had a 500M budget
>>740628469>It's 0, because I don't need to play this trash to knowRetard
>>740628747You shouldn't trust either. You should listen to the arguments of people on both sides, look at the product yourself, and make your own decision.I'd also not put much into the opinion of someone with 300 hours unless you're just asking for objective information. You're not putting that much time into a single game in three months unless you're well into it, and all of the Marathon supporters on the Steam forums who are on the biggest copium are the ones with 250 or more hours played.>>740628779Concord was a bomb whereas Marathon is just a flop. Marathon flopped as a commercial product in its launch weekend, as most anons knew it would.>>740628896I don't need to eat a piece of mouldy fruit to know it's got mould on it either, nigger
>>740628656>and just killed Destiny 2Wasn't the best call from Sony, but D2 is like 8 years old. Not quite a good example.
>>740628870The entire Destiny franchise's budget is stated as $500m, and I think the original (and all of its expansions) only ended up costing $150m or so.Destiny 2's base cost was probably $200m, but with all of the expansions it could've gotten to $500m, but I can't find any clear data about it.>>740629131It's funny because nobody would give a shit about D2 being killed if D3 was announced beforehand. Sony choosing not to make D3 makes killing D2 all the more confusing.
>>740629131Warframe is like 13 years old and is still growing and making a bajillion dollars. There's really no reason Destiny 2 couldn't have followed down that same path, or worse case just make a Destiny 3 that does.
>>740628656>Sony could>CouldAlways when, if, could, never facts, you guys have been moving the goalpost since launchFirst it was doa, then closing in two weeks and look, still here almost 4 months laterJust take the L, you wanted concord 3 and didn’t get it
So this just proves this shit could go free to play next season and it'll have like 20k players. No joke next season might be the last one
>>740629606>you guys have been moving the goalpostOh, it's the tourist shill. No, this won't be true no matter how often you try to lie about it. Anons said it would flop, it did, that it was ugly, it is, and that it might kill Bungie, which could very realistically happen after this dismal F2P week performance.Why you keep shilling for this flop game confuses me. Unless you're paid I guess, but you've done more to convince people it's not worth playing than anything thoughbeit>>740629674>it'll have like 20k playersAnon, it's f2p right now and barely has over 20k players
>>740629674>No joke next season might be the last oneSame as with season 1? Lame, I thought you guys had some new material.
>>740629795I think it's Bungie that needs new material in their game and fast
>>740629674its going to get at least another 2 seasons but eventually Sony will pull the plug on long term development. The current player count would be fine for a small studio of ~50-60 devs but Bungie is a huge studio of 600+ developers, Marathon is way too niche of a game in a dying market. Regardless of if you love or hate Marathon, the current trajectory of the game is not good. I enjoy both games but realistically Destiny 2 is going to be pulling 10x the player count tomorrow and probably for a long time. Not a good look any way you spin it.
>>740629770>Oh, it's the tourist shillTourist shillslop o algo.
>>740629982marathon doesn't even have a content problem it has a core game design problem. Extraction shooters are the pinnacle of hardcore gameplay. Even a super casual player can go have fun in Fortnite, Apex, League of Legends, DotA, etc..., a casual player cannot have fun long term in Marathon. You get good gear? Oops you die and lose all of it. That moment right there is when most of your player base quits unless they really like the core idea of an extraction shooter.
>>740629983>its going to get at least another 2 seasons but eventually Sony will pull the plugOh no no chuddies I can't haha
>>740630064>confronted>immediate meltyI actually miss the paid shills. They were less embarrassing, which says a lot.>>740629983I think seasons 1 2 and 3 were done before the game shipped, so I'd expect at least season 3 coming and going before anything major happens. >>740630114>marathon has a core design problemIt's actually not a problem, because the game is fine as an extraction game. The real problem is their core game design only appeals to a tiny niche audience, which is the exact fucking opposite of what you want when you spend 250 million to make your game.
>>740630176Marathon is a success yes or no
>>740630269>which is the exact fucking opposite of what you want when you spend 250 million to make your game.I completely agree. I meant my response more as 'why isn't Marathon popular and successful?'. Because it never will be due to it being an extraction shooter, its just way too niche of a game. Its actually a fantastic extraction shooter imo, but the subgenre that it resides in is just super niche.
>>740630269>"melty">types an essay with each replyWow... anon
>Destiny-Sama... I...
>>740630457This is a win for Bungie, both its games are doing well
>>740630323yes
>>740630421what breaks my brain is that it didn't even start as an extraction game and just got morphed into one when they hired the current game director. Like nobody at Bungie did any market research?? I can't figure it out.>>740630430>more than one sentence is an essay that makes my zoomer pussy hurt :(The US is doomed if people like you are the next generation.>>740630530In all respects except financial, right?
>>740630457You do realize that both games are making money, right?
>>740630269>I think seasons 1 2 and 3 were done before the game shippedMaps, maybe. Changes absolutely not. They're floundering and trying to retain players, which is why Seasons 2's "changes" were hyped up and the F2P week/end started the day after season 2 started to try to get interest.It sort of worked, but looking at SteamDB/Charts and it's clear it also didn't work on retaining people. People came, saw the changes and immediately went "nah, not for me" and bailed.The TRUE test will be if the 20,000 still playing holds past Tomorrow (the intended end of F2P) and/or Thursday (the extended end of F2P) if Marathon immediately craters back to the 11,000 it had before F2P/Season 2, it's over.
>>740630323>success as an extraction shooterYes, I legitimately think it might be the best on the market in terms of gun play.>success as a $200m+ budget behemoth from Bungie, a studio with over 500 active developerslolno, not even close. That's the problem. The genre of game that Marathon is part of IS the core problem. Its unfixable unless they rework the entire game to become not an extraction shooter, but at that point why not just make Destiny 3? Its too late now obviously but clearly someone was giving Bungie/Sony bad information as to how popular the extraction shooter market would be amongst the masses. Right now extraction shooters have zero casual mass appeal.
>>740630584100 maramillion players this weekend trust
>>740630584Unless Destiny whales stay, it's "not for long." As soon as people tire of the sunsetting patch, it's going to start to bleed players because "why play? The game is dead!"
>>740630584>>740630497the problem is Destiny 2 clearly has a massive fucking playerbase, FAR larger than Marathon, and they are ending production on that game to instead focus on an extremely niche, small playerbase game that will not make them nearly as much revenue. Its a very puzzling business decision that doesn't make much sense. It feels like classic sunk cost fallacy. They invested so much money in Marathon that they're hyper focused on trying to make it successful instead of just investing into the already proven golden goose of the Destiny IP.
>>740630602I think the test is player numbers after F2P week ends, because that's the real put up or shut up moment for anyone that came back to check it out if they hadn't bought it already.Tomorrow is going to be a humiliation ritual for Bungie when D2 gets 3-4x the CCU peak on Steam than Marathon because of the big patch.>>740630584If you spend more than 300 million to make maybe a sixth or seventh of that in revenue, what does it matter?
>>740563063Extraction shooters aren’t a “niche” genre, they’re a TERRIBLE genre. They promote hacking, jewish tactics and general faggotry. Bungie made their own bed of shit covered nails. RAIN DOWN UPON THEM THE LAYOFFS!
>>740630905learn to play, pedoshit
>>740630905oh no no lolipedos I can't
>>740630946>>740630979They hated Jesus because he told them the truth
>>740630905correct opinion but you're a bigger faggot than the marathon shills somehow
So, what is going to be the drop when f2p is over? That's on the weekend, right?
Gonna be honest I didn't think I'd say so but I'm kind of having a blast with the game. Maybe not a whole blast but at least like, half to two thirds a blast.
>>740631439f2p turns off on the 11th, so just before the weekend
>>740631439Pre-F2P was 11,000 (it was close to hitting 10,000 for weeks, but Bungle botted players). If it falls that, F2P was a failure. If it at least makes 12,000 it was a semi-success even if that's an abject failure in any sense of the word.
>>740631521Why wouldn't they extend it through the weekend? Seems like a missed opportunity. Also, since Summer break is beginning for lots of people now, why wouldn't you try your best to get new players?
>>740631620It was supposed to end tomorrow but they decided to extend it because of the server issues when season 2 started and because they probably want to lessen the embarrassment from how badly Destiny 2's numbers are going btfo Marathon's tomorrow
>>740631609>but Bungle botted players
>>740630584It's making at least six maramillion credits per moon cycle
>be snoy>desperate to buy a company like gigachad microsoft>all the good companies are already gone>eye bungie>only company with an active fps "mmo" looter shooter franchise going on 10 years>they MUST know what they're doing>12 live service projects in development>bungie can tell us the secret to success>pete "trust me bro">pay $3.2 BILLION>pete buys 30 new luxury cars>turns out bungie doesn't know shit>immediately cancel 10 out of 12 live service projects>unrelease and refund concord>it's okay though bungie has a secret new project>marathon will save sony and bungie>next coming of fps jesus>wait it's an extraction shooter>fewer players than destiny after year long content draught >season 2 will save sony and bungie>fewer players day 1 season launch than destiny>we'll make the game free so anyone can join in the fun>fewer players day 2 season launch than destiny >okay we'll shut destiny down then people will be forced to play marathon>fewer players every day than destiny I cannot imagine being so unbelievably retarded that you support sony, bungie, or any part of this complete gong show. You're a fucking indian faggot
>>740632003>okay we'll shut destiny down then people will be forced to play marathonMeds, now.
Why are the graphics so muddled and lacking shadows? Even for overcast conditions, the ground and foliage shouldn't be looking this flat. It's like the game completely lacks AO shadows despite running at max settings.
>>740632003I honestly don't know what Bungie/Sony are going to do with Marathon. They've invested too much money into it to abandon it but I'm not sure if there's anything they can do to make it successful outside of the nuclear option of making it not an extraction shooter anymore.
>>740632204That anon isn't strictly wrong except for the decision to shut down Destiny in favor of Marathon being made back at the start of the year.But it's abundantly clear Sony backed the wrong horse between those two game franchises.
>>740632254>Why are the graphics so muddled and lacking shadows?because you set the game to low
>>740632204It's been confirmed they discussed shutting destiny down in Q1, didn't tell the devs who were actively working on content that would never release, and moved a non-insignificant number of devs from Destiny to maraslop. All of that and your dogshit game STILL can't survive even with free access. I guess all the SEA players don't count since they can't find matches 50% of the time even with the current numbers. You're a pathetic intern and not convincing anyone, you're going to get laid off with the rest of the cunts in your shitty company
>>740628016>They've tried to force Extraction Shooters to be "hot" after Battle Royal and they always crash and burn/flop on their face.Helldivers 2 & Arc Raiders are still really big, HD2 made some boneheaded decisions and AR is basically in maintenance mode but both were wildly successful at one point
>>740632284Emerging IP bros...
>>740632361You can cross our Destiny too
>>740632361>Until Dawn in the franchise listHow old is this image?>Destiny at the topGuess they should just erase that now, kek
>>740630421>'why isn't Marathon popular and successful?'they should lean more in to what makes Marathon unique w/the classes, not needing the other runners for much of anything after you hit Outpost is retarded
>>740632483It's only 2 years old but they did just announce the sequel so I guess they had that in their pocket for a while
>>740632602The image is only two years old? Until Dawn came out in 2014 or something.
>>740632683What? They still consider it an IP they just released the Steam version around that time
>>740632298Game barely looks any different between highest and lowest settings, besides the attempt at foliage shadows, and being able to see further on low because the weather effects are dulled.
>>740632727It just seemed weird to me to see it on that list since all of those games at least are franchises with other entries. Until Dawn only got a sequel announced in the last year, I think.
>>740563063gonna be honest i juat come here to laugh at the line going up and down, hows things going?
>>740632483
>>740632683And since then its had multiple spinoffs/prequels. And a couple of years ago it had a remake and a year ago it had a film. Its not like they've been sleeping on it. Now there is a straight up sequel
>>740632937
>>740577770i think itll be psplus in a month tops
>>740632361You can scratch God of War and Destiny off that list.
>>740632848i can never get over how fucking terrible the color palette is
>>740632848see, here's your foliage shadow, you can clearly see the shading when you are not a disingenuous piece of shit, Marathon shadows are so immaculate lights are places just for players to spot enemies early through shadowsNot reading your post btw
>>740633135>see, here's your foliage shadow, you can clearly see the shading when you are not a disingenuous piece of shitYeah let's ignore how my first screenshot also had it, but only on specific bushes. EVERYTHING on the screen should have it.
>>740632361>crosses out an unreleased game, and one that's still getting freuqently updatedChudbros... this fanfic is frickin awesomer.
>>740633264yeah the screenshot you specifically set to low had less shadows
>>740633268Oh no shillbros how long until fanduel starts the bets?
>>740633373If it was low those shadows wouldn't be visible.
>>740633268We all know Marathon is dying. Why do you think they're resorting to a free week and a sale between seasons. The daily player count was getting dangerously low. They killed all future updates for destiny and it had something like 3x the player count of Marathon. Fairgames is more extraction slop with essentially the same premise as that Relooted game that flopped. They were so concerned about the feedback they decided to change the name completely. Its a foregone conclusion its going to flop hard
>>740618178you okay bro?
>>740633268
>>740633542So is Fairgames Break In now? Last I read the internal testing was dog water and then Sony filed a new trademark
>>740633864We've had no official confirmation yet, but it's likely.
if I buy the game do I keep my progress from the demo period?
>>740633542>dyingit never really got off the ground to begin with. The genre is way too niche and while there are players who enjoy the hardcore, adrenaline pumping gameplay its not nearly enough.
>>740633043Supermassive made other games in their 'cinematic interactive horror' format, yeah, but none of them were Until Dawn related until this recently announced sequel.
>>740633864I think they are about to cancel it, it was very rumored for the SoP but no one was happy of that
>>740633864Notice you can't find the Fairgames wikipedia article anymore? They had it nuked to memory hole what it was originally called. You can only find blurbs of it being Jade Raymonds next game
>>740634251yes
>>740633864Sony mysteriously filed a bunch of trademarks in Canada, and their only studio in Canada is the one making Fairgames, so it's a reasonable assumption they're going to rebrand instead of just putting a bullet in the studio.>>740634251You do.>>740634263It didn't even do well in the very first F2P weekend before anyone had touched it. It's been downhill since then.
>>740633264you are a waste of skin and I would gladly give you the arachne treatment myself>>740634251yes
>>740634514This game perfectly embodies the "trooncore" aesthetic.
>>740634691care to explain what you mean instead of spouting buzzwords
>>740633517It was supposed to be early May and such but whatever, chudsissies will take anything as a win.
>>740634691Yeah it reminds me of Destiny
>>740634514Your webm shows the outdoor ground looking just as flat lol.
I know this dumb shit flinging will never end.But I want you to know that guild wars 3 just got announced. Guild wars 2 is 14 years old, runs like flaming shit, is woke as fuck, and gets fewer players in a year then marathon gets in a month. arenanet (the dev) has announced that guild wars 2 will continue to receive new content and expansions indefinitely concurrently with ongoing dev of gw3. they've also committed to ongoing updates for the original guild wars indefinitely (you are younger than this game).none of these games have ever had a sub fee, battlepasses, music videos, retard influencers, twitch streams with more than 200 people, or really any kind of marketing at all. yet somehow these games survive. it is not that hard to not be another concord or highguard, and statistically its extremely rare. you've never played guild wars, you'd hate it and call it shit, and yet it managed to survive this long and produce sequels and dev commitment.
>>740634514I like it when you sad humiliated faggots get all confrontational.This looks like absolute utter dogshit made by amateurs and not a 3.6 billion studio's "AAAA" title.
>>740635014no it doesn't
I wasted my sunday trying this game solo. It is fucking miserable. You can clearly tell Bungie never intended for anyone to play without premade trios. Also, hero shit is a trash mechanic and should be outright removed. This genre keeps kicking me back to Tarkov.
>>740634514DVR shill! I can't believe you're still at it.
>>740635014every single patch grass is dynamic and casts shadows, you lost>>740635230mald, nigger
>>740635248Yes it does.
>>740635172somehow this place embodies the most mouth-breathing specimens of this planet so trying to make them think just doesn't work
>>740635172GW3 looks like a mobile game thoughbeit, just like Veilguard did. And I loved GW2 and put at least 3k hours into it since its launch in 2012. No interest at all in GW3 though.
>>740635172>>740635408/v/ enjoyed GW2 and there's a long lasting general in /vg/, kill yourselves shill faggots.Also, GW2 didn't cost nearly as much to produce as Shitathon did, so these studios were able to work on a smaller scale.
>>740634263>The genre is way too niche and while there are players who enjoy the hardcore, adrenaline pumping gameplay its not nearly enough.no thats not it. tarkov is doing way better than marathon and thats as niche and hardcore as it gets.
>>740635508still online btw. cope
>>740635508actually there was no gw2 general for years because some gigafaggot like you was running a bot 24/7 to shit it up
>>740635320kek same>do the first couple missions>try to exfill>get booty blasted by an Islamic Rape Gang of robots, UK style>get downed and literally cannot do anything besides die>lose all shit>uninstallAt least the game is only 25GB, I give them credit for making a low size game is a world where 150GB bloatware is the norm now. I just don't think extraction shooters are for me.
>>740635571good, it will be fun to see Bungie closing down in the next few months
>>740635428well yeah thats kinda the point. the games not very good and it never was and its still here and you're talking about it. and its getting dev commitment for 3 concurrent titles, the first of which is 20+ years old
>>740635617lol filtered shitter
>>740635553Tarkov is both an extraction shooter and a milsim. There was a very large audience of old Arma players that moved over to Tarkov when it launched, not so much for the extraction shooter elements but for the milsim part. Its quite simple and easy to understand. Marathon's UI is fucking garbage and the new player onboarding experience is one of the worst I've ever seen.
>>740635508amazing reading comprehensionstop replying to me you retarded nigger ape
>>740635682turns out making a game for 0.0001% of players that make it through the filter is not a recipe for a successful game. I look forward to this game's EoS announcement within a year, possibly including the dissolution of Bungie as a studio.
>>740635653Just a few more months bro. Just a few more months...What, it has already been 3 months since I started saying this? Well, just a few months left... soon...
>>740635682good, keep it up with pushing players away, it's a good thing they don't pay you for this shit
>>740635678GW2 was great for some of its life, good for most of its life, and only downhill in the last four years, I'd say.Marathon, by comparison, was stillborn and is fine for an extraction shooter, but an absolute disaster for an expensive AAA game that's supposed to start a franchise to replace Destiny.
>>740635771seethe more, shitter
>>740635842>that's supposed to start a franchise to replace Destinydoes your dad work at bungie or where do you guys get this information
>>740635230>This looks like absolute utter dogshit made by amateurs and not a 3.6 billion studio's "AAAA" title.Meanwhile, some f2p game by ex-AAA devs running a AA studio with a fraction of the budget....
>>740635935>where do you get this informationSony looking at both Destiny 2 and Marathon and deciding to kill Destiny while keeping Marathon?
>>740635935Were you a failed abortion? Bungie has no other products other than Marathon and killed their main cash cow, their entire overpriced studio depends on the success of this shitheap game.
>>740635984the choice to keep marathon is clearly sunk cost fallacy, I wouldn't look at it any deeper than that
>>740635935>Dude the game that made Bungie close its other game is totally not meant to replace the other and start a new franchise
>>740636048Between the two games, I'd argue that Destiny 2 was a bigger sunk cost because it was probably the reason why Bungie asked for $3.6b from Sony when they got bought. 'You're buying this established AAA live service franchise, goy! You'd be a fool not to give us $3b! It's worth $3.3b easy! Come on, it's only $3.6b!'I think them keeping Marathon is someone doubling down on a bad bet and refusing to admit it was a bad bet to begin with.
>>740635553I would say tarkov is more hardcore than marathon. The grind is real and you get one tapped frequently. Yet it doesn't feel as bullshit like when some transgender kevin durant and his friends press their "I win" buttons
>>740636273>The game that hasn’t received content in one year was burning more money than the newest that had to rush content for a season 2
>>740635984>>740636029>>740636071still looking for the source
>>740636273Destiny 2 was sunk cost. Destiny 3 should have been the choice over Marathon, that's the point. Destiny 3 could have been fully designed from the ground up to be a live service, permanently updated game such as Warframe. They could have fixed the storage problems that plagued D2, and made a game that could have been updated for years and years to come. Destiny is Bungie's most valuable IP by far.
>>740635971You couldn't have shown a worse fucking image from this game. I'm impressed.>AA studio400 is AAA, and they are a Nexon subsidiary aswell
>>740635617CONQUERED
they're gonna have to do a genre change, like a FF14 scale overhaul in terms of changing basically everything if they don't want this to fade into obscurity
>>740635971is this the best that Nexon's gacha money can buy?
>>740635682Hilarious that you don't see the obvious problem with most players not making it past 'the filter'. It isn't a good thing.
>>740636273No, Bungie oversold their studio by shilling like 5 different incubation projects that they had "in the works" as well as Marathon, Marathon was stuck in dev hell for way longer than it needed to be and it came out stillborn, now Bungie has no other projects to raise their value since it was all taken over by Sony and pushed to other studios, and were forced to kill Destiny which was killed during the Marathon crunch as well, so they're completely fucked now.
>>740636496Change it from what though? XIV went from poor XI clone to WoW clone. Marathon is just doing what every other Extraction shooter is doing already, except being very fucking late to the party.
>>740636545yes it is, it means the game doesn't coddle players like they are fucking retards
>>740636496I expect them to release a Destiny Crucible style TDM game mode where you don't lose anything soon, probably in S3. Just to gauge if people are actually interested in the gunplay and combat mechanics.
Still no linuxTick tock
>>740636564mission-based PvE game, similar to Helldivers, Deep Rock, or Warframe.
>>740633558Well I'm glad somebody cared.
>>740636345My point was I think it's fair to assume Destiny 2 had a much higher valuation than Marathon did when Sony bought Bungie, so that plus the 400 devs working on Destiny 2 made it a higher sunk cost to maintain.>>740636358Are you slow, anon? Bungie publicly announced they're stopping work on Destiny 2 with no new project announced to fill the gap. That means Bungie and Sony chose Marathon over Destiny 2.>>740636410Yeah, I'd love to see some insider information on how the hell they chose to back this niche extraction game over an existing, established live service model that lends itself to MTX.
>>740636530Visible damage layering was recently added a season and a half ago and still has some visual anomalies. You can at least break a lot of shit in Finals, vs. how fucking static Marathon is and unfortunately ARC as well, which begs the question as to why there's no baked shadows in the game.
>>740636595Then you're making a game for very few people and the playerbase isn't nearly large enough to support a studio as large as Bungie. Financially its a huge fucking problem anon. Clearly the game is having huge problems with player retention EVEN DURING A FREE WEEK.
>>740636597that not going to be enough to bring people into this game, there's already million PvP hero shooters and no one is going to drop $40 for one.
>>740636613I wouldn't mind a first-person Helldivers. Deep Rock already did what it did well enough, and no one else can do what Warframe is doing, which is taking literally over a fucking decade to start telling a story.
>>740636613I agree, they could even rebrand the game entirely. A mission based PvE shooter, maybe keep some of the PvP as side content. Add a central area where everyone can see each other and talk. You earn loot and bring it into those missions. You could even re-name the game to be something new, call it...'Destiny'.wait....
>>740636664>it is fair to saySony literally said that in an earnings call when they recognized an impairment and clarified it was because D2 didn't perform as well as they assumed it would. Which is hilarious desu considering how old the game is and how bungie did everything they could to torch players goodwill
>>740636613yawn.. i think i'll keep playing marathon as it is and leave you to your slop then
>>740563063Honestly, I do enjoy the gameplay and love the aesthetic. I just kind of... hate the lore? Like, why would anyone be salvaging Spoiled Ration Pack or biomedical waste? You salvage stuff that matters and is worth something. It's why computer monitors are just tossed in landfills: the steel and copper in them is so little compared to their weight it's literally worthless to the scrapyards. It all feels so pointless. I can play for cosmetics or something, and feel happy I get a reward, but I'm only doing this while it's free. Once it goes back on sale I don't really have any desire to buy and replay it. Dying 3 out of 4 times wears thin pretty fast.
>>740636864The impairment loss wasn't directly attributed to Destiny 2, if I recall. They did say Destiny 2 hadn't been meeting expectations, so the impairments are probably a combo from that and Marathon flopping.
>>740636613Its basically already that with the faction missions. Some retard at Bungie decided to tack on the pvp extraction crap. They probably thought extraction shooters were going to be the next big genre
>>740636676Then explain Warframe.
>>740637094It was directly attributed to D2. Q2 2025 if you want to see for yourself.
>>740637163Warframe is very successful and doesn't overspend in its development, it's currently in a drought. Marathon just launched a season, has a free week and still can't pull enough numbers.
>>740637249That was the first smaller impairment loss. The latest and largest one wasn't attached to a specific game umless I'm misremembering
>>740637249The irony is that Destiny only died down because they pulled back on the frequency of content to finish Marathon faster, and the new director ruined the entire progression system.
>new wipe>but hardcore no lifers get purples>also the new shit just gives loot for free>premades farming it blitz through cradle>the best and most dedicated players are now maxed out three days after the wipe>everyone else lost an entire day because servers shat themselves>bungie panics and nerfs progression and loot in dire marsh>now it is even harder to catch up>tfw bungie managed to wipe a game and make the people that were ahead even more ahead and harder to catchThis company never fails to fuck up spectacularly.
>>740637163Its community got used to looking shit up on wikis real quick, being primarily a PC playerbase.Digital Extremes is also situated in London, Ontario of Canada, which pays staff fuck-all relative to the US game-dev median.
>>740637859I love how they're always panicking and changing stuff at the last minute like chickens with their heads cut off. They're really just winging all of it like recently graduated amateurs.
>>740637413Don't forget another reason Destiny 2 died is they made it impenetrable for new players by deleting major pieces of game content. New players will be completely lost. Its like a book where every few chapters there are multiple chapters missing. No new fresh blood to keep the game alive plus no new content for old heads means a stagnant game destined to die
>>740637859Wait what's this about progression I didn't see any patch notes for it.
>>740637859>Bungie nerfs progressionI'm not a game designer but it doesn't seem hard to look at a player's level or vault value or any other stats and speed up or slow down progression based on that, right?so if you're a sweat that grinded this whole time and you're geared out and high level, slow down loot gain for you or break loot from other players if you kill them and try to get it, and vice versa for lower level players.
>>740638010I believe they had to do that because Destiny 2's engine was fundamentally not built to support that much content. The game would have been like 300gb+ if they didn't sunset shit.
>>740638072Divide the game into content chapters and let the players preload chapters ahead of the current one/uninstall ones they cleared if your game resources are that fucking large.
>>740638072The irony of your statement is that literally all the content is still there, all the previous seasons removed, even stuff from the red war era remains in some way or form just out of bounds, so that excuse is moot.
>>740638043Get on with times, grandpa. Patch notes are unc shit. Now you get your updates through twitter: https://x.com/marathondevteam/status/2063018736089772526?s=46&t=YT1DKMkSBZ074lrlB-bx-w
>>740638217Can I expect the end of service announcement to get posted on xitter, too?
At least 30 nightmarsh runs back to back and still no anomalous reverbs on sight for my contract BRAVO BUNGIE I SHANT BE BUYING
people only be hating on marathon because its not ur standard gooner game. marathon is peak AND original. no one can change my mind
>>740638507>Destiny gunplay with shitty hero shooter slop shoved into an extraction shooter formatthe only thing "original" is the art style and it's a prime example of why original does not equal good.
>>740563538It's interesting how the secondary peak is higher at first but now the first peak is higher. What countries overlap on these peaks?
I'm so excited to see how low the player count crashes to in a month bros. Will we see 5k?
>>740638507Based on your likely vax status (which was a given through your negroid-twitter babble) I’m pretty sure your mind could be changed relatively easily through 5G signaling
>>740638010I wasn't lost at all, but I was confused as to why this whole story arc people kept praising (Red War) was just gone when I tried Destiny 2. Whatever event was running at the time, something after they retook the Last City, was not enough to hold my interest. And all the gunplay felt stupidly weightless to me. There was no reason for me to fight because, as a Guardian, I had nothing to fight for.
>>740570281>are now made by peoplethere hasn't been a genuine Marathon thread yet, every single post-limit hitting one has been made by chartfags that dont actually play any games.they're ruining this board,all these threads about fiscal performance and quarterly projections and earnings calls in the pursuit of any extractable schadenfreude.
>>740570281absolutely nobody gives a shit about Marathon at this point, if anything these threads are just ragebait that constantly gets bumped by the same marketers over multiple daysjust saying there are ways to avoid bumping a thread on each post
>>740639125I'll take a thread laughing at marathon made by an anon being genuine over a thread glazing marathon made by a paid shill any day of the week.>muh whining about fiscal performanceFuck off already, you worthless simp. Marathon is a AAA game made by a first party Sony studio. It's not an indie game. Finances are part of the discussion just like they would be for a big tent pole movie.
>>740568808this is true and I have 200 hours at this point.that being said the joy I get out of the game isn't the progression it's beating people in the minute to minute PVP which I cant really get with this combination of stakes in any other game.
>>740563063Free week fag hereWhy didnt they just make this an MMO thing like Destiny? Its world is far more interesting than the extraction shit gameloop they glommed onto it.
>>740638571>The only thing original is the stolen artstyle.Lmao.
>>740589525they have to nerf that pistol it's in the 4k kit and is the best gun in the game basically.
>>740639312This game should have been First Person The Division. With the extraction shooter behaving closely to how The Dark zone works in that game.
>>740639361I don't know anything about that, I'm just an outsider looking in laughing as another bungie project falls flat on it's face and then blows it's head off with a gun
>>740638482It's weird, I remember seeing a bunch of them when I was trying out the sponsor kit mode but I don't think I've seen one since I switched back to regular night matches either
>>740639125I only play single player games so chart threads are funny.
Destiny lost hard
>>740639215I dont even mean for marathon specifically, threads about single player games I like have some faggot chime in>hmmm only 6k players today I c...I really want chartfags exiled, it's not video game discussion it's gay petty sports team shit
>>740639312>Why didnt they just make this an MMO thing like Destiny?I don't see how a MMO like game would have fit in the game world considering the colony has been wiped out by the contagion and even the AI got fucked.Speaking of the lore I was intrigued by uncovering the mystery of why things happened but the payoff as been lame when I finished nucaloric questline.The contractors are lame (except maybe for nona) and the codex entries are mid. Only cool things I saw was one cat apparition (the one from the teaser), hearing him meow on bio research, and one kino transmission at the beginning of a match maybe Durandal speakingThe spooky shit on nightmarsh are pretty nice too.
>>740639726chartfagging over singleplayer titles is a bit retarded for sure but for multiplayer games in particular it can expose narratives being spread to save izzat or try and milk investors for capitol to use on another failed multiplayer project. Also it's just funny to see something get shilled and hyped to the moon and then fail to acquire any kind of reasonable playerbase because it was all totally inorganic
>>740639925>can expose narratives being spread to save izzat or try and milk investors for capitol to [...] shilled and hyped to the moon and then fail to acquire any kind of reasonable playerbase because it was all totally inorganicyeah but can you see how this is only tangentially even related to video games?if someone wants to talk about a game and wet-blankets only wanna jerk off about finance then this becomes a finance board and not a video game board.
>>740639782MMO is a bad term for it but im saying, why not make a fun RPG game instead of force the annoying battle royale/current multiplayer team mechanics into this fps game? Extraction shooters essentially are the bastard child of battle royales, and they sure arent fun to interact with when you just want to progress the story.
>>740641291I get what you're saying, funnily enough I've had more trouble with the bots than with players when doing contracts.At least not all contracts requires you to exfill to be completed.
>>740639312Destiny is barely an MMO. It's more like Borderlands bro-op with an optional PVP component you can queue for.
