Here to remind /v/ that Ninja Gaiden 4 is a masterpiece and we'll never get such kino ever again.
platinum is making a potential kino next, TMNT last ronin
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>>740588824Them listing NG4 in the trailer makes me hopeful.
>>740588395>>>/wsg/6167923
>>740589090Will it be an actual technical CAG, though? Or some lame beatemup?
>>740588395Ryu's chapters were shit.
>>740589241Haven't read The Last Ronin but from what I gathered it's probably going to be similar NG4 with enough differences to make it stand out.
>>740588395>shit level design>boring enemies>zoomer Ryu >yellow paint>magnetism >dozens of other assists NG2 is still peak NG
>>740588824I just hope they add a ton of gore in it
>>740590228>Partially agree>Wrong>Should have embraced his chuuni side>Agree>Not an argument>Game still difficult on anything but easy.
>>740588395based based based!
>>740590228SSSSSSSSUUCCC TO TARGETalso present in ng2*
>>740591125The magnetism I presume he's talking about is the both the player and the enemies have a kind of "pull" where they auto-correct your aim. For Yakumo it's pretty obvious when you're using the lance, and a lot of enemies will slide into place and occasionally adjust to still hit you. Once you notice it, it's hard not to afterwards.
>>740591475This.There is literally not a CAG in existence that doesn’t have some form of auto aim.
>>740591634Outside of some small instances this was never an issue, I genuinely believe people made this a bigger deal than it was.
>>740588395how the fuck do you make a game that's worse than NG1 Black and...fucking NG3.
Always found it very strange how much certain people complained about suck-to-target when it's not even on the top 10 of things that are bad about NG4
>>740593025>Number 1>Yakumo makes my peeper hard UwU
>>740592381>worse than NG1 BlackHang every NG2tranny.
how do you say it?>ninja guy damn>ninja gay damn>ninja guy then>ninja gay then
>>740593347Guy den.
>>740593347ninja gay den
>>740588395It's good but not a masterpiece.
It's a good game, just wish they gave more support and also a playable Ayane
I bought deluxe edition but still haven't played the dlc.
The Soundtrack is really good, very fun game, top 2 modern Ninja Gaiden in my opinion
>>740595612It's short and pointless just like Yakumo
it's good but the area designs was bothering me since the trailers.And playing like Ryu was cool for like an hour then it really drags
>>740593347ninja guy den
>>740588395YupEasily my game of the past decade, I genuinely can't think of a game I enjoyed more the past 10 years.Funnily enough I still haven't really started the 2Masters DLC, waiting for the right "timing">>740588824>TMNT last roninidk what that is but it looks kinda sickSo long as it's a 3D action game I'll buy it day1
>>740592381NG3 will always be the worst NG game lol.
>>740595612It's good, the best part is the abyssal road and the new weapons
>>740598804Which is not a bad thing, NG3 RE is still a decent action game
>>740588395true true
>>740590228magnetism is in all ng games,retard, its just way more noticeable now because the arenas are way bigger
>>740592593S-suck to target bros... wtf, delete this now
>>740588395Whenever Ryu Hayabussy isn't on screen, everyone should be asking: "Why isn't this called Ninja Gay-den 4 when it doesn't have Hayabussy in it?"
It's maybe the best Platinum game ever, maybe even better than Bayo 1.This is very funny and ironic considering all the doomposting about Platinum after all of their big name talent left, and then they finally released a great game again
>>740588824Fucking yuck
hook me up with a good discount and I'll get it
>>740601580>press X to not die in cutscene>decent
>>740590228This sort of behavior in that webm also exists in OG NG2 btw.
>>740603689But I can play the whole campaign as Ryu on my machine
>>740603718Sad to see that the Kamiya autism with grinding/movie parts still remained but it's still way less then bayo 1
>>740603757just pay 1 month of gamepassfinish it in 2 days and play something worthwhile the rest of the month
>>740588824I read the comic which was pretty good. Not as much of a masterpiece as everyone were saying imo, but it's good. As long as they keep it the same in regards to Mikey then I'll be happy.The setting in The Last Ronin also has a lot of similarities to Ninja Gaiden 4. Hope it's great.
>>740603768Did I stutter? RE4 does the same and it's acclaimed as the best game of all time.
>>740592381LOL what abysmal taste you have, NG4 is good and NGB is the greatest game ever made
>>7405988043RE might just be one of the greatest action games ever conceived. It's insane how hard Yasuda and the team redeemed 3.What a fucking game
I have completed NGB and NG4 on Master Ninja.I have not completed 2 on Master Ninja yet (I got burned out), and I have definitely not completed 3RE on Ultimate Ninja.
Alright actionpseudosoulsliketards, I've got a choice between this and Wo Long. Which one do I play first?
>>740588395mork said you can throw enemies off the elevator and it has scripted parkour slop therefore it's bad and itagaki is rotting in his grave
>>740588395Unfortunately Platinum is cursed and their failures will always stand out more than their successes
>>740604210if you want a more soulslike experience wolong, if you want pure action game then ng4they're both good but wo longs performance is worse
>>740590228Meanwhile peak
>>740604210In my opinion, Ninja Gaiden 4.
>>740604049>3RE might just be one of the greatest action games ever conceivedTrue
>>740604535good thing only retarded shills like you who work for them or the competition care for sales
>Murders your favorite franchise with meme arguments>Shills actual kusoge like Wanted Dead because you're an insufferable hipsterNuthin personell
>>740604761This dude is the most contrarian retarded faggot that Wanted Dead video is an abysmal literally just “I’m the only one that understands it don’t listen to the big critics!” This dude is a clown
>>740591475no, in NG2 it's just alignment at close range SUCK to target is when you get SUCKED across the screen hence the term SUCKINGsuck a dick
>>740604687>Company does better >lights stay on so they can make more games I likeYou're needlessly stupid.
>no enemiesVery disingenuous comparison.
>Gives us slop with some literally who korean e-boy fuckboi instead of Ryu and Ayane kino>Ayane's VA dies right after
I wish the level design wasn't so bad. It makes replaying the game kind of tedious. Also, the first half of the game is so poorly paced. And I would've liked to have a check list of missed items on the mission select. There are lots of things that are holding this game back.
>>740606623What's bad about the level design?
>>740606754I just think the, for a lack of better term, "platforming" segments take too long and there's too many of them. I'd rather just have more room to room gauntlets. I don't need Platinum's brand of on rails segments. It was kind of obnoxious in their other games, like Bayonetta. But the frequency of them was also very low. Here it feels like they were added as padding because they were afraid that people would shit on the game for being too short otherwise. And I think that fear is somewhat reasonable as a lot of people pick these games up, play through them once on Normal and move on. Those kind of people would be pissed, especially since many of them judge games based on how long they played it instead of how many of those hours spent were actually fun. But it hurts the experience for people who like to really sink in an action game and master the combat mechanics and enemy patterns.
the funniest thing is that this guy keeps using the same webmsykwtm
I just beat 4 recently and then started up Ninja Gaiden 2 Black and 4 feels a lot better. 2 feels very slow and even sluggish in comparison
>>740607132I guess to an extent. I really like the rail section in ch9 chasing the shark and I beat the game 3 times. I can see those bits getting annoying but I honestly loved all the mainline entries
>>740604210I really tried to like Wo LongIt has a few great moments but this isn't really a fair comparison for it. NG4 is just better
>>740608126i like the blood and animations in 2 but i like how fast 4 isthe camera is closer in 2 so you can appreciate the motion capture more
>>740604761>>740604863Who gives a fuck? He's been replaced.
>>740607132My issue with NG3RE (besides it's vast other problems) was that despite having a really good combat engine it's levels were as you describes, room to room arenas.1 and 2 had you fighting the same ninjas a lot but it was in all kinds of different zones, corridors, up stairs, etc.I like 4 since it does that too, and has a pretty beefy enemy roster to boot
It's still shocking that not a single NG game released last year performed well financially. Makes wonder if the same fate will follow DOA.
How does this compare to Unc May Cry 5?
>>740609623As far as recommendations, you mean? I think it comes down to personal taste.I liked NG4 but I will say it feels closer to other Platinum titles than NG1/2 in terms of how it plays. So if you like MGR or Automata, then yeah it's an easy sell.I'm struggling to think of a game that plays similar to DMC5, but maybe there's an indie title floating around I'm not aware of.
>>740606465What an insult, really. Trying to bait us in with the Ninja Gaiden name and by putting Ryu/Ayane in the trailers when they pretty much aren't in the game. That was our last chance to ever get a Ninja Gaiden revival, and they threw it all way just to bait us into playing a game about fucking Yakumo. God damn scumbags.
>>740608505I played through most of NG3 and it's closest to 1+2 but has some stupid stealth / platforming / gimmick areas that are just not fun to play. The thing with NG1+2 is that its combat and pacing was pretty much perfect. Platinum didn't need to fuck with the formula yet they did. 4 has some annoying enemies and levels. Simple as.
>>740612701>acting like 1 and 2 didnt have stupid shit and trash enemiesgenuinely commit suicide with your family
You're only as good as your last game, so NG4 has restored my faith in Platinum. Very much looking forward to their TMNT game.
>>740604761>Murders your favorite franchise with meme argumentshim pointing out how platinum killed ninja gaiden forever doesnt exactly equate with mork himself killing the franchiseeveryone dicksucking ninja reddit 4 especially at launch should be fucking gutted like the retarded fish that they are btw, backstabber shills like jay who took the advertizing bag like judas right after itagaki died should be fucking ashamed of themselves for peddling this asinine reskinned platinum goyslop to their followers
>>740614175ng2 schizos will act like this and still think they're in the right
>>740614703if you think only "ng2 schizos" hate ninja reddit 4, its because youre a retarded secondary who wasnt even alive back when NG2 was still just a demo on fucking xbox live
>>740588395unironically Jack's game was better.
>>740588395Are switch ports of the ninja gayden games good?Want to get into the series
>>740616261yes except for 2
I still haven't seen a single person ITT explain why it's a bad game.Hint: It's because it's not a bad game.
>>740616538it's not a bad gameit's a bad ninja gaiden
>>740588395The amount of shit posting this game gets is baffling. The only real fault is Ryu being sidelined so hard but everything else was peak.
>>740616538>I still haven't seen a single person ITT explain why it's a bad game.thats probably because youre either literally retarded or werent in the threads concerning the game for literally the first 3 months of its existence
>>740616391Sigma 2 slander is larper speak.
>>740616538>blood screen of death so realistic>remember playing simon says warcraft? enjoy it>yakumu-kun yakumu-kunyakumu-kunyakumu-kunyakumu-kunyakumu-kun>shit enemy design>on rail sections>i just meet you buT SAOORRRRRRIIIIIII WAHHH WAHHH >shit hitboxes>ost is shit>effect bloat so you can't see shit>that pleasure bitch boss was the only nice design>ryu part was fun but same shit as fagkumo so its shit>at least Ryu gameplay was funthere. now kill yourself shill
>>740616760NG threads in general are shitpost factories full of 40 year old retards.
>>740617067You forgot yellow paint, tutorial spam and endless walking yapping sections
>>740612701>most of NG3 and it's closest to 1+2I literally just described how it isn't>>740616760>>740617385Most of it amounts to a few genuine autists who can't help themselves in their retardationSame with so many games you might try to discuss on /v/
>>740613247Why don't you go back to Bayonetta zoomerfaggot? 4 will never be as good as 1+2. Go take that Yakumo faggot with you.
>>740603625>>740603778Magnetism isn't in 1 or 3. Maybe a little bit in 2. It's dialed up to 11 in 4 because zoomerfaggots can't git gud and just cry to devs for crutches and then block anyone who hits them with a daily dose of reality. Picrel is 3 and your daily dose of reality. Now go back and watch >>740590228 and compare.
>>740616760ng4 chads are getting the last ronin while 40 year olds will continue to be mad their entire life
How can NG boomers cry about magnetism when there's literally a technique that auto jumps towards enemies?
>>740617830>Magnetism isn't in 3Kill yourself 3RE subhuman
>>740618181Performative critique, nobody actually cares they just need something to cry about, it would be more honest if they just said they don't like Yakumo and moved on
>>740604870Right doesn't have enemies you bloody retard
I'm playing through NG4 now for the first time. It so badly wants to be DMC. The game has a million moves with the depth of a puddle. They try to overwhelm you by giving you a base moveset + bloodraven moveset + charged bloodraven moves and then give you like 3 different parries, perfect dodge, and b/f & 360 moves (again all with bloodraven and charge bloodraven forms) but then the actual gameplay you're just using mash square, FS, GT, and then like 3 bloodraven moves when they're worth it. The game does feel like NG, with enemies being ruthless and you needing to gain space to be able to handle them...but there really isn't anything here. Not only is UT as good as ever but they give you a rage form that not only buffs UTs but gives you access to a lot of instan-kills then a super move which also insta kills everything. The bloodraven form is just DT except you get to use it to completely break and interrupt enemies constantly, the sword and ninja toolset have extremely OP bloodraven moves that can clear an entire area. Why the game has two parries i'll never know. The game lets you combo autism like it's DMC but there is literally no reason to ever do that, especially since enemies can and will attack you in the air (not that I think this is a bad thing). I also think there's some irony in the combat design where this game clearly was not made to be NG and if you were to remove NG stuff like guillotine throw and flying swallow it would actually change the game quite a bit and players might actually get more use out of your moveset, especially the forward moving bloodraven move which has a dedicated button to it but literally never feels more useful than just wind pathing into FS
>>740616760At the end of the day, Ninja Gaiden is dead or at least shelved for another decade. It's just a shame that such an excellent game underperformed. I just wonder if it will achieve cult status down the line.
Anybody that likes NG4 just proves themselves to not know what is good about NG or what makes a good action game. It sucks as an NG game, it sucks as a DMC game. It does nothing to push NG forward, while also removing a lot of stuff that makes NG unique. Also it's really funny how they obviously put a lot of dev time into Yakumo and Ryu is tacked on yet most people at a high level prefer to play Ryu because even in his tacked on form he's still more fun and interesting to play with a lot of his DS moveset intact
>>740619361>The game has a million moves with the depth of a puddle.enough about ng2, depth of a puddle and 95% of them are unusable
>>740603718>It's maybe the best Platinum game ever, maybe even better than Bayo 1.Bayo 1 has an infinitely better combat system, a better weapon system, and a scoring system that actually matters. If you believe NG4 is better than you're literally a filthy casual.
>>740619713>It sucks as an NG game, it sucks as a DMC game.Elaborate. What elements of NG is not present in 4 and what elements of DMC did it try to emulate?
>>740619713I own Black, NG2 for 360, and 3RE so the definitive edition of each game and I enjoyed 4Also you can use Ryu's sword and gleam as Yakumo so there's literally no difference. Sure Yakumo is worse but the criticism is overblown
>>740619663You are so close to figuring out why this game sucks. This was Ninja Gaiden's last chance to come back. Ryu's voice actor is over 70 years old. Ayane's voice actor is dead. There won't be any more games, 4 was funded on the basis of "Let's see if this series still has any appeal", and instead of actually making a game that utilises the appealing parts of the series to build a revival, they used the budget on a game about an OC gay edgelord mocking and desecrating old Ninja Gaiden.
>>740618181Are you retarded? Wind run is it's own dedicated button, you do not need to use it and in older NGs (more so NG1) there's an actual reason to do it because you fight in a lot of tight arenas. If the game only had the auto-aim wind run jump, it would feel fucking awful. Anyways. You and everyone else saying "but other NGs!!!" are either retarded or disingenuous. The complaint isn't that NG4 has your attacks track enemies, this was always in NG as a sort of aim assist type feature, but I use the term assist seriously here, as in NG1 and 3 you can push your stick like 90 degrees from your target and you wouldn't succ into the target. Additionally, the biggest complaint and what people actually mean when they say magnetism is when the player does their attack and SLIDES along the ground to meet the enemy. This NEVER HAPPENS IN PREVIOUS NG'S. It is an NG4 feature and a feature people laugh about when talking about stuff like bamham games or modern onions of war.
>>740619754a single NG2 weapon still has 1/3rd of the moves you get on a single weapon in NG4. It's extremely bloated.
>>740620445you have never played ng2
>>740620317>I own Black, NG2 for 360, and 3RE so the definitive edition of each game and I enjoyed 4Your point being? The funny thing is you said you owned them, not that you played them. I didn't say if you like NG4 you never played NG, I said that it proves you don't know what's good about NG. >>740619853>what elements of DMC did it try to emulate?Moveset bloat, weapon switching. You can poorly emulate DMC juggles when you launch them in the air and can near infinitely just mash you air combo as you switch between weapons. Bloodraven form is Devil Trigger, no one will deny that. >What elements of NG is not presentOn Landing techniques (besides OL UT charge)Running/run attacks. You didn't need a dedicated button to run in previous NGs and this gave you access to unique movesDirectional inputs (i.e. forward +X, back+Y), you could argue that back>forward inputs replaced this but it's definitely not the sameThey also reduced the entire dial-a-combo system to just mash X with a Y ender, when most weapons in NG had a good list of different combos with different uses (not counting NG2, there's a lot of bloat). This is also the 3rd time they've changed the parry and counter system. Before, you had dedicated inputs for a counter attack which had an animation and recovery frames, now you just guard on time and it's boring, even using an attack to parry feels very lenient and not that punishing against non-bosses. In NG3, they added cicada surge which was this really powerful counter move which would teleport you behind enemies....love it or hate it, it was a unique technique that is just gone now because of NG4s parry and dodge mecchanic.There's problem some more i'm not thinking of off the top of my head. These are all significant because they are what makes Ninja Gaiden, well, Ninja Gaiden. Removing, changing, or reducing them makes the game feel very different. It does not feel or play like Ninja Gaiden outside of how spammable UT still is lol
>>740616030I love jack's game, but no it isn't. All the niohlikes are held back by excessive menuing and loot
>>740619026Slit your wrists.
>>740620375>This NEVER HAPPENS IN PREVIOUS NG'Sattacks move you towards the enemy in all ng games
>>740622143>shows literally the same thing except contact is one swing earlier
>>740622282>blind roach can't judge the distanceYeah, just slit those shit tubes vertically. Thanks.
>>740622246anon literally posted right above you proving that wrong
>>740620445this has to be bait
>>740622436He is clearly moving towards the enemy as attacking, look at his feet.
>>740620627>>740622456>nothing proving me wrongretards. >inb4 disingenuously trying to claim that X vs XX vs XXX count as completely seperate movesEven in that case, NG4 still has triple the moves
>>740622596You're not sneaky, your bait is weak. He's clearly sliding in NG4 while he's not sliding in NG3. You do not slide along the ground depending on distance from opponent in previous NGs.Last (you). Get better bait
>>740622685>You do not slide along the ground depending on distance from opponent in previous NGs.Refer to >>740618416
>>740622685>depending on distance from opponentthe distance is fixed though? the first hit missed
>>740604761I only watched a few videos of him together with BGE and I got the vibe that he really likes to sniff his own farts.
Is buying an old ass xbox the only way to play ninja gaiden black nowadays?
>>740623114No, 360, Xbox One and Series X I think all have backwards compatibility.
>>740623316Damn I never should have sold my 360.What is the optimal way to play the series and what are the alternatives?I want to know, because I feel like eveeyother port/remaster nowadays has some issues that makes them not the preferred way of playing
Thanks for the reminder that NG4 is actually worse than even 3RE and hopefully killed the series for good since Platinum and Team Ninja only make dogshit these days. NG4 fags aren’t real people.
don't @ me until you beat fresh ng4 mn
